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Title: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: Beta-coiner1 on January 24, 2014, 11:10:55 PM
I wonder why'd they do this (http://www.extremetech.com/internet/175335-google-looks-into-accepting-bitcoin-but-realistically-its-options-are-very-limited) since they have ripple already.
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The first thing to know about Bitcoin has nothing to do with how it works or what the current value of one is — of primary importance is the fanatical devotion Bitcoin users have to the mother of all cryptocurrencies. Many fans of Bitcoin promote the anonymous internet money at every turn, encouraging others to use it as a way to combat everything from government overreach to unethical banking practices. This is why cryptocurrencies are still a thing. Bitcoin enthusiasts scored a major victory when Overstock and Zynga started accepting Bitcoins recently, and that prompted one fan to start asking other internet companies what their plans were. Surprisingly, the one organization he got anywhere with was Google.

Updated: Google has since issued a statement that it isn’t looking to incorporate Bitcoin — but as far as we can tell, the email conversation isn’t being contested. Basically, Google probably is investigating Bitcoin, but isn’t quite ready to publicly jump on the train.

It was an email to Google+ head honcho Vic Gundotra that got a response. Gundotra forwarded the message to the Google’s commerce team, and a manager there confirmed that the company is indeed investigating how Bitcoin could be incorporated. Mountain View has been careful to say that there are no immediate plans to accept Bitcoin, but Ariel Bardin, VP of Google Payments did request the original emailer start a Google Moderator discussion to see what users wanted Google to do with Bitcoin. The entire exchange was detailed on the Bitcoin section of Reddit.

Bitcoin has been on a steady rise over the last year, more than doubling in value over a few months. Even recent law enforcement actions against Tor network sites (where Bitcoin is very popular) and China’s crackdown on the currency haven’t dampened enthusiasm much — a single Bitcoin is still worth over $900. A year ago one Bitcoin could be exchanged for a mere $20.

The question remains, what would Google do with Bitcoins? The overwhelming majority of Google’s business comes from Adsense, so clearly taking payments for ads in Bitcoin would have the largest impact and would make Bitcoin fans extremely happy. However, Google has to police its Adsense content very well to keep scams and illegal goods out. Having a paper trail aids in accountability, but Bitcoin is anonymous by design. As such, Google’s involvement with Bitcoin, if any, is likely to be more modest.

Now that the word is out, though, I expect Google to do something if only to get brownie points from privacy advocates. Google sells various consumer digital goods like apps, music, and books through Google Play, and many of the suggestions pouring into the Google Moderator page are asking the company to enable Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies in Google Wallet, and thus its entire content ecosystem. However, the act of paying 0.000012 BTC for an app lacks elegance, which is important in a consumer-facing venue like Google Play. Don’t expect a Bitcoin logo will be popping up in the Play Store any time soon.

A solution that satisfies all parties might be to allow Bitcoin transfers directly into Google Wallet. It would be a quick way for users to make Bitcoins “real” and only requires that Google change one of its systems to accommodate virtual money. The Google Wallet debit card might finally get some traction as the fastest way to spend Bitcoins in the real world.
I wonder if this could have the same price affect Baidu did.


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: RyNinDaCleM on January 24, 2014, 11:36:04 PM
another link http://newsbtc.com/2014/01/22/google-current-plans-regarding-bitcoin/

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“As we continue to work on Google Wallet, we’re grateful for a very wide range of suggestions,” a Google spokesperson said to newsBTC this evening in response to the post on Reddit. “While we’re keen to actively engage with Wallet users to help inform and shape the product, there’s no change to our position: we have no current plans regarding Bitcoin.”

Edit:
Above was in response to this http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1vvfxz/google_confirms_their_payments_team_is_working_to/


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: BitcoinBobbeh on January 24, 2014, 11:38:00 PM
Google is at least aware of it, and if they ever decide to implement features revolving around BTC, it would be maybe the single most influential piece of good news ever, to this point.

What's bigger than Overstock? Amazon? Facebook?

Motherfucking Google.


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: gentlemand on January 24, 2014, 11:41:12 PM
This is yesterday's not quite news.

Google labs - ie Ripple funders - is a separate entity from the rest of google.

I'm sure there's no shortage of interest inside google. It's inevitable. However they're not just another retailer. Incorporating Bitcoin in even the most modest capacity would be just about the largest endorsement going. I wonder how much political pressure and maneuvering there would be before announcing any type of firm position.


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: TERA on January 24, 2014, 11:48:51 PM
This title is misleading. There was a one line sentence in an email which a bitcoin turbobull twisted into his interpretation as alluding to possibly implying adoption. But when a rational person looks at it, it could mean anything.


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: ElectricMucus on January 24, 2014, 11:53:20 PM
Updated: Google has since issued a statement that it isn’t looking to incorporate Bitcoin — but



... you hadn't even had to click it to know it's bullshit before you've read it.

oh and freakin LOL


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: windjc on January 25, 2014, 12:02:55 AM
Updated: Google has since issued a statement that it isn’t looking to incorporate Bitcoin — but



... you hadn't even had to click it to know it's bullshit before you've read it.

oh and freakin LOL

You lie. They didn't say they weren't looking into it. In fact they said blatantly they were keeping an eye on it and considering many things for their wallet. You have got to fucking kidding yourself if you don't think that is positive news. Google NEVER comments on things they aren't at least interested or curious about. The emails weren't fake. The PR department is giving a "never overpromise" pr line in that response.

Why are you so butthurt at the prospect of Google considering bitcoin? A year ago you would have said the exact same thing about Overstock. You are a butthurt little man.


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: ElectricMucus on January 25, 2014, 12:05:01 AM
lol read the damn line, are you so compartmentalized that you can't understand a simple sentence?

It's right there in the article you idiot!  :D


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: windjc on January 25, 2014, 04:33:40 AM
lol read the damn line, are you so compartmentalized that you can't understand a simple sentence?

It's right there in the article you idiot!  :D

No you are the idiot!  ;D :D


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: Sindelar1938 on January 25, 2014, 04:44:32 AM
Potentially good news but wallet incorporation and adoption are not the same thing



Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: rapsaodan84 on January 25, 2014, 04:45:20 AM
Next stop. $10k.

This gives me hopes :) as I'm starting so late on bitcoins.


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: BitcoinAshley on January 25, 2014, 05:00:51 AM
They said they are looking into it but had no current plans.

Everyone happy now?

"Confirmed they're not looking into it" - Irrational Perma-Bear Lie
"Confirmed they have plans to adopt it" - Irrational Perma-Bull Lie

"Confirmed they are looking into it but have no current plans" - THE TRUF


Another True Confirmed Fact: Google adopting DOGE into Google Wallet


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: accord01 on January 25, 2014, 06:11:38 AM
No this is complete ....


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: accord01 on January 25, 2014, 06:14:24 AM
All you lil nerds that have hoarded all your BTCs and expect ppl to hand you money.  Here's the truth: you are at a disadvantage now.  Too many big fish entered and/or working together with others I'm guessing and are you goign to hold and then by the time it is about to hit 0, you're going to sell.

btw btc will be just a disgusting thing trtaded at 4 disgusting exchanges for a while.  its a joke.


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: Holliday on January 25, 2014, 06:26:52 AM
All you lil nerds that have hoarded all your BTCs and expect ppl to hand you money.  Here's the truth: you are at a disadvantage now.  Too many big fish entered and/or working together with others I'm guessing and are you goign to hold and then by the time it is about to hit 0, you're going to sell.

btw btc will be just a disgusting thing trtaded at 4 disgusting exchanges for a while.  its a joke.

Tell us how you really feel. Don't hold anything back. Just let loose.


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: knightcoin on January 25, 2014, 06:45:04 AM
All you lil nerds that have hoarded all your BTCs and expect ppl to hand you money.  Here's the truth: you are at a disadvantage now.  Too many big fish entered and/or working together with others I'm guessing and are you goign to hold and then by the time it is about to hit 0, you're going to sell.

btw btc will be just a disgusting thing trtaded at 4 disgusting exchanges for a while.  its a joke.

Tell us how you really feel. Don't hold anything back. Just let loose.

 ;D ..

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/35304076.jpg


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: aminorex on January 25, 2014, 07:14:46 AM
But when a rational person looks at it, it could mean anything.

Indeed, when your premises include contradictions, you can validly infer anything.  Assuming for the moment that you are that rational person, perhaps it's time to review your axioms.



Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: knightcoin on January 25, 2014, 08:28:42 AM
They said they are looking into it but had no current plans.

Everyone happy now?

"Confirmed they're not looking into it" - Irrational Perma-Bear Lie
"Confirmed they have plans to adopt it" - Irrational Perma-Bull Lie

"Confirmed they are looking into it but have no current plans" - THE TRUF


Another True Confirmed Fact: Google adopting DOGE into Google Wallet



Thats the "google way" to market research ...

btw , I 've had setup some google alerts bots about bitcoin in the news .. and there is nothing about google<=>bitcoin ... then I just started wondering where is my exactly "cluster location"; propagation, Autonomous System (AS) etc... 


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: BitcoinAshley on January 25, 2014, 01:16:17 PM
All you lil nerds that have hoarded all your BTCs and expect ppl to hand you money.  Here's the truth: you are at a disadvantage now.  Too many big fish entered and/or working together with others I'm guessing and are you goign to hold and then by the time it is about to hit 0, you're going to sell.

btw btc will be just a disgusting thing trtaded at 4 disgusting exchanges for a while.  its a joke.


Wait, what? I've been HODLing (the correct term - not "hoard") my BTCs and people HAVE handed me money. TONS of it. So it's not a matter of expecting people to hand me money... they've already done it. Thanks for the display of emotion, though. You know what they say about people who trade with emotion, or people who base arguments on emotion... they're whiny little girls who let their emotions control them!  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: roxtar on January 26, 2014, 03:19:42 AM
“We are working in the payments team to figure out how to incorporate bitcoin into our plans" - that was exactly, word for word what Google Senior VP of Ads and Commerce Sridhar Ramaswamy said to me. Since then Forbes, Coindesk, Vice, The Daily Dot, etc etc have all authenticated and verified the emails in various ways. Read what you will into that.


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: windjc on January 26, 2014, 09:15:02 AM
“We are working in the payments team to figure out how to incorporate bitcoin into our plans" - that was exactly, word for word what Google Senior VP of Ads and Commerce Sridhar Ramaswamy said to me. Since then Forbes, Coindesk, Vice, The Daily Dot, etc etc have all authenticated and verified the emails in various ways. Read what you will into that.


Yeah, Electric Mucus is a fucking moron.  ;D :D


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: ElectricMucus on January 26, 2014, 09:29:33 AM
com part mental ized


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: ElectricMucus on January 26, 2014, 09:32:50 AM
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Updated: Google has since issued a statement that it isn’t looking to incorporate Bitcoin — but as far as we can tell, the email conversation isn’t being contested.

(which is exactly which the statement does contest, since the email conversion has the subject of incorporating bitcoin. roxtar just quoted it)


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: windjc on January 26, 2014, 09:43:21 AM
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Updated: Google has since issued a statement that it isn’t looking to incorporate Bitcoin — but as far as we can tell, the email conversation isn’t being contested.

(which is exactly which the statement does contest, since it is the subject of incorporating bitcoin. roxtar just quoted it)

and again you are a fucking moron  ;D :D  Individual who runs department says they are looking into it and wants feedback from bitcoin community and Google PR department says they are not incorporating bitcoin. This is what PR departments are made to do, under promise at all costs.

So maybe if Electric Mucus could compartmentalize - which he obviously can't - then he'd understand the basic communication strategies of a multi-billion dollar corporation and how their compartments work together and separately at times and why.

Instead, he is just a fucking idiot.  ;) ;D :D




Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: T.Stuart on January 26, 2014, 09:43:28 AM
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Updated: Google has since issued a statement that it isn’t looking to incorporate Bitcoin — but as far as we can tell, the email conversation isn’t being contested.

(which is exactly which the statement does contest, since it is the subject of incorporating bitcoin. roxtar just quoted it)

Of course they're thinking about it. And of course it would be too early on the part of Google for any statement regarding potentially adopting Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: ElectricMucus on January 26, 2014, 09:49:21 AM
They basically said exactly that they aren't doing the thing in the "email conversation". They can't really get more direct than that.

Uh and remember this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400269.0)?


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: windjc on January 26, 2014, 09:55:15 AM
They basically said exactly that they aren't doing the thing in the "email conversation". They can't really get more direct than that.

Uh and remember this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400269.0)?

Nice. You just exposed yourself as someone who believes the email is fake. Tin foil hat. You just make yourself look sillier and sillier  ;D :D  At this point you would have more of an impact on forum reader opinions if you started stating the opposite of what you want people to believe. At this point, people just use you as a negative indicator of anything you write.


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: ElectricMucus on January 26, 2014, 10:01:02 AM
I'm just writing what most people think who aren't bothering to post here at a sunday noon.  :D


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: T.Stuart on January 26, 2014, 10:02:37 AM
I'm just writing what most people think who aren't bothering to post here at a sunday noon.  :D

And while we write Bitcoin takes off again!


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: windjc on January 26, 2014, 10:08:03 AM
I'm just writing what most people think who aren't bothering to post here at a sunday noon.  :D

All I will say for anyone who reads your posts and thinks for a moment any of them have an ounce of truth in them, to take 15 minutes and read through your history of posts dating back to mid 2011. Then when they are overcome by your historical abilities to be wrong about a wide array of topics they can marvel at the fact that you aren't a retired multi-millioniare today, given the fact that you were mining in the early days and have been here since almost the beginning.


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: ElectricMucus on January 26, 2014, 10:10:22 AM
Now you're making up stuff again, just like you're saying I did say something about overstock before they became a bitpay partner, I didn't even know about their existence before they announced their partnership.


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: marcus_of_augustus on January 26, 2014, 10:10:56 AM
I'm just writing what most people think who aren't bothering to post here at a sunday noon.  :D

All I will say for anyone who reads your posts and thinks for a moment any of them have an ounce of truth in them, to take 15 minutes and read through your history of posts dating back to mid 2011. Then when they are overcome by your historical abilities to be wrong about a wide array of topics they can marvel at the fact that you aren't a retired multi-millioniare today, given the fact that you were mining in the early days and have been here since almost the beginning.


bingo! ... we have a winner.


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: ElectricMucus on January 26, 2014, 10:13:12 AM
I dare you to dig through my posts where I make any prediction about the price of bitcoins. It shouldn't take longer than an hour come on do it. ;)


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: marcus_of_augustus on January 26, 2014, 10:15:59 AM
I dare you to dig through my posts where I make any prediction about the price of bitcoins. It shouldn't take longer than an hour come on do it. ;)

you've been wrong about most things since I first noticed you ... and i stopped reading you soon after, circa mid 2011 ...


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: ElectricMucus on January 26, 2014, 10:18:37 AM
I dare you to dig through my posts where I make any prediction about the price of bitcoins. It shouldn't take longer than an hour come on do it. ;)

you've been wrong about most things since I first noticed you ... and i stopped reading you soon after, circa mid 2011 ...

If that gives you a feeling of accomplishment that's quite poor.


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: roxtar on January 26, 2014, 06:27:11 PM
It's not fake guys. For Gods sakes.. that's a really silly accusation. I even challenged TheNextWeb.com, which took it upon itself to say the emails "were too good to be true".. insinuating they are bullshit. I challenged that if they can get Google to deny Sridhar said those words to me in an email I would give TheNextWeb 10 btc and the "journalist" who wrote that 10 BTC, and use Seans Outpost founder Jason as a trusted escrow party. They haven't responded to my challenge.

The emails are not fake, and Sridhar said what he said. Same with Vic and Ariel Bardin.

What you can take away from Sridhars words are a matter of personal choice, but he said what he said.

Google can say "we have no current plans regarding bitcoin", just like I have no current plans to use the bathroom to relieve myself.. but I'm sure I will inevitably have to at some point during the day.

Forbes, Vice, Business Insider, The Daily Dot, Coindesk etc etc all authenticated the email exchanges and even more I had with Ariel that I did not publicly post.

Take away what you want to take away. Believe or not. Tinfoil hat or reality. Your choice.

Laters!


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: ElectricMucus on January 26, 2014, 06:44:39 PM
Blah, blah, blah it's always the same with this kind of stuff. You got busted, and if google hadn't used the same exact terminology to deny it there would be a margin for interpretation.
But now there is not.

This is what the rest of the world thinks, and of course there is broad support in this forum for this kind of hoax, but they'd cheer for everything as previously mentioned.


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: roxtar on January 26, 2014, 07:44:30 PM
Blah, blah, blah it's always the same with this kind of stuff. You got busted, and if google hadn't used the same exact terminology to deny it there would be a margin for interpretation.
But now there is not.

This is what the rest of the world thinks, and of course there is broad support in this forum for this kind of hoax, but they'd cheer for everything as previously mentioned.

Excuse me.. busted? Busted doing what exactly? I think vindicated is a more appropriate word. Are you suggesting the emails were fake and Sridhar didn't say what I attribute?


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: ElectricMucus on January 26, 2014, 08:32:13 PM
Blah, blah, blah it's always the same with this kind of stuff. You got busted, and if google hadn't used the same exact terminology to deny it there would be a margin for interpretation.
But now there is not.

This is what the rest of the world thinks, and of course there is broad support in this forum for this kind of hoax, but they'd cheer for everything as previously mentioned.

Excuse me.. busted? Busted doing what exactly? I think vindicated is a more appropriate word. Are you suggesting the emails were fake and Sridhar didn't say what I attribute?
take a hint.

Taking credit for something like that in form of a new bitcointalk forum account and posting here, on the speculation forum can also have to do with it, maybe.  ;D


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: roxtar on January 26, 2014, 08:41:45 PM
Not new, registered almost a year ago. I just lurk. There's some really intelligent discussion on these forums.. but also some serious trollage.

Regardless, maybe Forbes and Wired and Vice and all of them are foolish enough to fall for my evil genius hoax(?!).. and you in your infinite wisdom are smarter.  :D


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: ElectricMucus on January 26, 2014, 08:44:34 PM
Not new, registered almost a year ago. I just lurk. There's some really intelligent discussion on these forums.. but also some serious trollage.

Regardless, maybe Forbes and Wired and Vice and all of them are foolish enough to fall for my evil genius hoax(?!).. and you in your infinite wisdom are smarter.  :D

you are the one smug about it.

For all I care it's all bullshit, the emails, the article, the disputing and your association with the whole thing.  ::)


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: knightcoin on January 27, 2014, 02:04:33 AM
They basically said exactly that they aren't doing the thing in the "email conversation". They can't really get more direct than that.

Uh and remember this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400269.0)?

Nice. You just exposed yourself as someone who believes the email is fake. Tin foil hat. You just make yourself look sillier and sillier  ;D :D  At this point you would have more of an impact on forum reader opinions if you started stating the opposite of what you want people to believe. At this point, people just use you as a negative indicator of anything you write.

I think we can check if the email is fake or not by checking it's dkim signature

http://dkim.org/

http://www.appmaildev.com/en/dkim/



Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: roxtar on January 27, 2014, 02:40:22 AM
Of course, I'd be more then happy to do that - right now. How would I post the result so it's all above board? Or, if you could walk me through it via PM?
Either way, excellent idea.


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: segeln on January 27, 2014, 12:25:44 PM
Google Coin May Stand Up Against Bitcoin
http://guardianlv.com/2014/01/google-coin-may-stand-up-against-bitcoin/


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: knightcoin on January 27, 2014, 12:52:24 PM
Google Coin May Stand Up Against Bitcoin
http://guardianlv.com/2014/01/google-coin-may-stand-up-against-bitcoin/

to be very honest ... google could help bitcoin community by helping business and start-ups surround bitcoin, got couples ideas about it ... it would be win-win situation ... hope theywill not start challenge our community ( made of fanatics ) they will have a lot to loose about their "cool-company-image" ... it would be a huge scare in their face ... 

http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/5165a9a0ecad045b0d000000-600-249/djlasir.jpg


Title: Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin...
Post by: eiskalt on January 27, 2014, 01:23:40 PM
Google Coin May Stand Up Against Bitcoin
http://guardianlv.com/2014/01/google-coin-may-stand-up-against-bitcoin/

to be very honest ... google could help bitcoin community by helping business and start-ups surround bitcoin, got couples ideas about it ... it would be win-win situation ... hope theywill not start challenge our community ( made of fanatics ) they will have a lot to loose about their "cool-company-image" ... it would be a huge scare in their face ... 

http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/5165a9a0ecad045b0d000000-600-249/djlasir.jpg

What is there not to get about the Battle of Thermopylae?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae)

Seems like you are willing to make your last stand.

Excellent move.