Title: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 25, 2014, 02:14:53 AM Hi all. About three weeks ago we announced our private alpha which went very well. We were able to stabilize our platform enough to a point where we are confident in going beta. We are eternally grateful for our early users. With 1200 users registered we're really excited to open up access and registration to blow the hash rate through the roof. www.Hashbros.co.in Pool features Optional Profit Switching - Don't want your coins traded to BTC? Thats fine. We only charge 1% fees for profit switched mining. Just set your address under User Icon => Settings. Direct Deposit - In the event that you aren't auto trading your coins they will be dispatched to your wallet immediately after a round. Hackers can't steal what doesn't exist. Not MPOS based - We've written our entire stack from scratch. We don't depend on anyone but ourselves and have much greater feature velocity. Distributed Pools - Each pool runs on it's own server. This makes scaling effortless and eliminates a single point of failure. DDOS Protection - Our services are protected by a CDN, making it very difficult to DDOS. Beautiful UI - Seriously, take a look for yourself. We have also optimized the UI for mobile. 2 Factor Authentication - We support 2 factor auth via Google authenticator. This is used on sign in and for redeeming payouts. Automated Payouts - You can set your own thresholds, when they're hit you'll be receiving automated payouts. Incredible Transparency - Every round displays in depth information about each block mined, each user's shares and percentage of work, each deposit post-round, and the sell orders/trades made on cryptsy. It's pretty ridiculous. Email Security Alerts - Password changed? Payout addresses changed? We'll let you know. Geographically dispersed web servers - We have web servers in the USA and Europe Historical coin data - You can check out the historical profitability, network hash rate, exchange rate, and difficulty for all our coins. Profitability charts and more - http://hashbros.co.in/profitability FREE API - Right now we offer a free profitability API : http://hashbros.co.in/developers Intelligent Profit Switching - We don't just profit switch to the most profitable coin, we take into account market depth and liquidity. We will never profit switch to a coin that we can't sell nearly immediately. This means you will never be waiting for your payouts for days on end. Rapid coin deployment - It takes us about ~ 10 mins to get a new coin node up. Then we just have to sync the blockchain. SECURE - Our SQL queries are sanitized (no SQL injection), we use public key authentication on all our servers, and implement 2FA where applicable. SSL is coming once more users start hashing. Active Developers - Our development repository is nearing 1500 commits. Open to suggestions - We're already implemented a number of features that you've suggested at www.hashbros.uservoice.com Upcoming Features LTC auto trading Worker notifications Profitability calculator and more I can't recall. Supported Coins RonPaulCoin MoonCoin GlobalCoin TagCoin EarthCoin StableCoin AnonCoin DigitalCoin DogeCoin FastCoin NetCoin Spots LottoCoin CasinoCoin GrandCoin Franko WorldCoin LiteCoin GoldCoin MegaCoin Vision Our vision is to provide an incredibly transparent, secure, and reliable crypto coin mining service. We want to bring an unprecedented level of professionalism to alt coin mining and thus to crypto. Any noob can download MPOS and set up their own pool. We want to be something more. What are the fees? 1% for using our pools and an additional .5% for auto trading to BTC. Minimum BTC payout is .0005 per BTC fees. Why beta release We still have a TON of awesome features to bring and development to do. Parts of the site may not be optimal/missing as they could be under development. How do I sign up? www.hashbros.co.in Hit the sign up button and register! Please follow us on twitter : https://twitter.com/hashbrospool If you have any suggestions please post them here : https://www.hashbros.uservoice.com/. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Aiwanei on January 25, 2014, 03:24:55 AM This is great news, can't wait to see the hash rate climb and to see what else you guys come up with for features.
Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 25, 2014, 05:45:59 AM This is great news, can't wait to see the hash rate climb and to see what else you guys come up with for features. Us as well. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 25, 2014, 06:27:50 AM Sending out acceptance emails for those who were on the waiting list right now.
Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: HashBrosB on January 25, 2014, 06:44:47 AM We are live with the beta! If you haven't already signed up, feel free to do so now, and you'll be ready to hash!
Everyone who had waited in the alpha line should be accepted and can log in as they please! Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: sighle on January 25, 2014, 07:40:09 AM Just switched my miners over. I love the site dashboard and navigation. Very peppy and clean.
The only complaint I have right now is that it took some doing to figure out how to set my auto payout threshold and add my BTC address to my account. Definitely going to be spending some time here! Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 25, 2014, 07:43:59 AM Just switched my miners over. I love the site dashboard and navigation. Very peppy and clean. The only complaint I have right now is that it took some doing to figure out how to set my auto payout threshold and add my BTC address to my account. Definitely going to be spending some time here! Appreciate it! Noted this and will add some more detail to the getting started page. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: bullus on January 25, 2014, 08:36:26 AM Any calculations history how much profit u get per mh/s?
Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: ghur on January 25, 2014, 08:45:04 AM The "Direct Deposit" interface is a bit annoying to use.
Considering it's just a checkbox and an address field, it might be a lot more practical to make a table out of it with 1 coin per row. It would give a good overview and allow you to modify a lot of settings at once with way fewer clicks. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: bullus on January 25, 2014, 08:53:27 AM Doge is at the top of profitable, but u are mining another coin ,why?
Is it possible to see only the top 10 in the leaderboard and ur own , cause on my mobile it is very slow to download all the miners to see. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: mindsplit on January 25, 2014, 09:09:09 AM Why can i setup a Wallet address for every coin when you only payout in btc?
Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: cybercorey on January 25, 2014, 09:31:24 AM Jumped ship to HashBros from middlecoin, want to see if it can hold up against middlecoin!
Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 25, 2014, 09:33:24 AM Any calculations history how much profit u get per mh/s? Profit per MH is coming, just forgot to do it in time for the beta. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 25, 2014, 09:35:23 AM The "Direct Deposit" interface is a bit annoying to use. Considering it's just a checkbox and an address field, it might be a lot more practical to make a table out of it with 1 coin per row. It would give a good overview and allow you to modify a lot of settings at once with way fewer clicks. Will change. Filing an issue right meow. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 25, 2014, 09:37:22 AM Doge is at the top of profitable, but u are mining another coin ,why? Is it possible to see only the top 10 in the leaderboard and ur own , cause on my mobile it is very slow to download all the miners to see. Doge is most profitable, if you can mine it in a reasonable amount of time. The purpose of pooled mining is to generate more consistent earnings for coins that would take days/weeks/months to mine yourself. If we tried to mine dogecoin with our hashrate it could take 8+ hours or even days. Probably the latter. Our engine only looks at coins that have an estimated block time under half an hour. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 25, 2014, 09:41:14 AM Why can i setup a Wallet address for every coin when you only payout in btc? We only payout in BTC in the sense that we hold your BTC from autotrading your coins. We offer direct deposit for all altcoins if you don't want to auto trade them. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 25, 2014, 09:50:45 AM Jumped ship to HashBros from middlecoin, want to see if it can hold up against middlecoin! Until we get more hash rate I wouldn't expect it to. We'd probably need to at least hit 1GH Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: ghur on January 25, 2014, 09:55:17 AM Will change. Filing an issue right meow. nice :) Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: mindsplit on January 25, 2014, 10:08:28 AM Why can i setup a Wallet address for every coin when you only payout in btc? We only payout in BTC in the sense that we hold your BTC from autotrading your coins. We offer direct deposit for all altcoins if you don't want to auto trade them. I'm not sure if i understand correctly... On your FAQ it says "Note: We currently only payout to BTC wallets" I'm not able to set a payout Threshold for any coin. So what happens if i disable the Auto-Trade option for a coin? When will it get paid to my wallet? Will every round get paid directly to my wallet? The transaction fees will be high that way. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 25, 2014, 10:23:26 AM Why can i setup a Wallet address for every coin when you only payout in btc? We only payout in BTC in the sense that we hold your BTC from autotrading your coins. We offer direct deposit for all altcoins if you don't want to auto trade them. I'm not sure if i understand correctly... On your FAQ it says "Note: We currently only payout to BTC wallets" I'm not able to set a payout Threshold for any coin. So what happens if i disable the Auto-Trade option for a coin? When will it get paid to my wallet? Will every round get paid directly to my wallet? The transaction fees will be high that way. I'll modify the FAQ so its more clear. You set a threshold only on BTC because that is the only coin we will hold that is yours, since we generate it from auto trading. If you disable the auto trade option for a coin it will directly deposit your earnings to your address (if you set an address for that alt coin). After every round it will deposit those coins to your wallet. There are no transactions fees. The only transaction fees that exist are for BTC which is .0005 Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: mindsplit on January 25, 2014, 10:25:52 AM Why can i setup a Wallet address for every coin when you only payout in btc? We only payout in BTC in the sense that we hold your BTC from autotrading your coins. We offer direct deposit for all altcoins if you don't want to auto trade them. I'm not sure if i understand correctly... On your FAQ it says "Note: We currently only payout to BTC wallets" I'm not able to set a payout Threshold for any coin. So what happens if i disable the Auto-Trade option for a coin? When will it get paid to my wallet? Will every round get paid directly to my wallet? The transaction fees will be high that way. I'll modify the FAQ so its more clear. You set a threshold only on BTC because that is the only coin we will hold that is yours, since we generate it from auto trading. If you disable the auto trade option for a coin it will directly deposit your earnings to your address (if you set an address for that alt coin). After every round it will deposit those coins to your wallet. There are no transactions fees. The only transaction fees that exist are for BTC which is .0005 makes sense, very cool! Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 25, 2014, 10:27:05 AM Why can i setup a Wallet address for every coin when you only payout in btc? We only payout in BTC in the sense that we hold your BTC from autotrading your coins. We offer direct deposit for all altcoins if you don't want to auto trade them. I'm not sure if i understand correctly... On your FAQ it says "Note: We currently only payout to BTC wallets" I'm not able to set a payout Threshold for any coin. So what happens if i disable the Auto-Trade option for a coin? When will it get paid to my wallet? Will every round get paid directly to my wallet? The transaction fees will be high that way. I'll modify the FAQ so its more clear. You set a threshold only on BTC because that is the only coin we will hold that is yours, since we generate it from auto trading. If you disable the auto trade option for a coin it will directly deposit your earnings to your address (if you set an address for that alt coin). After every round it will deposit those coins to your wallet. There are no transactions fees. The only transaction fees that exist are for BTC which is .0005 makes sense, very cool! At least we havent encountered any transaction fees, for the coins that we've worked with so far. If it becomes a problem we could easily setup auto payout thresholds and store those coins. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: iarsenaux on January 25, 2014, 01:16:18 PM Hi there. I was hashing a few minutes ago but i noticed that my hashrate is not showing up on the website ao i stopped. How many minutes before the website show my correct hash rate and do you have any idea why it says my hash rate from an account is 0.26mh/s but no miner has been pointed on it for 2 straight days?
Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: milkam on January 25, 2014, 01:31:15 PM Since no big coin is being mined It will be long before any big farm will come here :(
The website is really great and it all look super nice. But we need better profitability :P Else I can't move my main miner from MiddleCoin, And I am sure that there is a lot of people thinking the same. We have a small miner here to monitor our btc/mhs/day and when it raise at a certain lvl we will move everything. my 2 cents. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: st4nl3y on January 25, 2014, 01:48:21 PM switched from middlecoin to see what's it like .UI looks great tho
Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: B737 on January 25, 2014, 02:24:57 PM Sovietaced, could you add some earningdata on the home dashboard as well? You could put a new block on the left side. That would be sweet.
Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Leto74 on January 25, 2014, 03:29:20 PM If i understand we earn BTC from autotrading multiple alt coins, but if we want we can remove from the auto trading some of the alt coin and have them on out wallet directly ?
If we do that, we will continue to receive BTC from auto trading, but we will also receive the selected alt coin in our wallet. Is that right ? Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: pepperino84 on January 25, 2014, 04:13:49 PM Why mine GrandCoin? Grandcoin now in number8 on profitability list..
Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: HashBrosB on January 25, 2014, 04:20:11 PM Since no big coin is being mined It will be long before any big farm will come here :( The website is really great and it all look super nice. But we need better profitability :P Else I can't move my main miner from MiddleCoin, And I am sure that there is a lot of people thinking the same. We have a small miner here to monitor our btc/mhs/day and when it raise at a certain lvl we will move everything. my 2 cents. Well in under 10 hours since we've gone beta, we have a pool hashrate of over 110 MH/s and haven't seen it stop climbing since. Profitability will only increase as more hashers join in. switched from middlecoin to see what's it like .UI looks great tho Thank you! We're all about ensuring a clean, intuitive interface that kicks the pants off the other guys :) Sovietaced, could you add some earningdata on the home dashboard as well? You could put a new block on the left side. That would be sweet. We could add that. I added a ticket and we'll get to it! Why mine GrandCoin? Grandcoin now in number8 on profitability list.. Correct, although the simple profitability number is NOT de-facto for how we select coins because it isn't the only measure that is important when deciding what coins to mine. We take in a huge range of variables to determine which coin will be profitable, AND exchangeable, AND a bunch of other historic back-lookings that are not reflected on the profitability page. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: pepperino84 on January 25, 2014, 04:27:40 PM Thanks for fast answer..
& Site look great. :) now i go with 70% hashpower on your site.. best of luck to site! Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: HashBrosB on January 25, 2014, 04:31:15 PM Thanks for fast answer.. & Site look great. :) now i go with 70% hashpower on your site.. best of luck to site! Thanks for the support! Feel free to contact us about anything else! Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: mindsplit on January 25, 2014, 05:53:11 PM I've noticed a failed transaction on my earnings page. It's a very small amount of CSC, the transaction field is empty and status says "failed".
What happens with those transactions? Edit: One more question, you said "We have web servers in the USA and Europe" Where are the Stratum servers located? Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: sl1982 on January 25, 2014, 06:17:59 PM I believe they are in New York
Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: spherix on January 25, 2014, 06:34:18 PM Hi,
Being a very small miner , I like the pool very much. I hope the earnings will stay like this or better , when the mega-hashers will join. would an api be possible for earnings ? It seems that 'my earnings' on the dashboard do not correspond to the earnings per round on the 'earnings' page kind regards Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: chilin_dude on January 25, 2014, 06:39:51 PM How about the ability to withdraw at X time everyday? Would be a very good feature, thanks.
Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 26, 2014, 02:02:28 AM Hi there. I was hashing a few minutes ago but i noticed that my hashrate is not showing up on the website ao i stopped. How many minutes before the website show my correct hash rate and do you have any idea why it says my hash rate from an account is 0.26mh/s but no miner has been pointed on it for 2 straight days? Probably some sort of bug, what is the miners count showing? Also what about when you go to your workers page. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 26, 2014, 02:04:25 AM Since no big coin is being mined It will be long before any big farm will come here :( The website is really great and it all look super nice. But we need better profitability :P Else I can't move my main miner from MiddleCoin, And I am sure that there is a lot of people thinking the same. We have a small miner here to monitor our btc/mhs/day and when it raise at a certain lvl we will move everything. my 2 cents. Mining bigger coins requires hash rate, everyone has to get on board collectively or else it won't work. The pool is quite profitable and can mine coins within the top 4 all time profitable. We just need more users. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 26, 2014, 02:05:39 AM Sovietaced, could you add some earningdata on the home dashboard as well? You could put a new block on the left side. That would be sweet. We've done this before but its expensive database wise and causes a pretty long page load, thats why we like to isolate them on their own page. It might be scalable with some long caching (10 minutes). Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 26, 2014, 02:06:32 AM If i understand we earn BTC from autotrading multiple alt coins, but if we want we can remove from the auto trading some of the alt coin and have them on out wallet directly ? If we do that, we will continue to receive BTC from auto trading, but we will also receive the selected alt coin in our wallet. Is that right ? You will only receive BTC for coins that are auto trading, otherwise you get the coins directly after the round. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 26, 2014, 02:10:36 AM Why mine GrandCoin? Grandcoin now in number8 on profitability list.. We determine what coin to mine on a bunch of factors, one of them is market depth. If a coin isn't quickly flippable we won't bother trying to mine it because we want to be able to get you your BTC immediately. If it becomes a problem we can tweak the engine more but it appears we havent mined GDC in quite some time. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: iarsenaux on January 26, 2014, 06:55:03 AM Hi there. I was hashing a few minutes ago but i noticed that my hashrate is not showing up on the website ao i stopped. How many minutes before the website show my correct hash rate and do you have any idea why it says my hash rate from an account is 0.26mh/s but no miner has been pointed on it for 2 straight days? Probably some sort of bug, what is the miners count showing? Also what about when you go to your workers page. It says number of workers : 0 which is correct but the hash rate is 0.26 mh/s Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Stenull on January 26, 2014, 07:54:08 AM Hi there. I was hashing a few minutes ago but i noticed that my hashrate is not showing up on the website ao i stopped. How many minutes before the website show my correct hash rate and do you have any idea why it says my hash rate from an account is 0.26mh/s but no miner has been pointed on it for 2 straight days? Probably some sort of bug, what is the miners count showing? Also what about when you go to your workers page. It says number of workers : 0 which is correct but the hash rate is 0.26 mh/s Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 27, 2014, 05:34:59 AM Hi there. I was hashing a few minutes ago but i noticed that my hashrate is not showing up on the website ao i stopped. How many minutes before the website show my correct hash rate and do you have any idea why it says my hash rate from an account is 0.26mh/s but no miner has been pointed on it for 2 straight days? Probably some sort of bug, what is the miners count showing? Also what about when you go to your workers page. It says number of workers : 0 which is correct but the hash rate is 0.26 mh/s I'm going to be looking into all this. We've been barraged with obscure bugs and requests for features. EDIT : Fixed. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 27, 2014, 05:38:05 AM Hi there. I was hashing a few minutes ago but i noticed that my hashrate is not showing up on the website ao i stopped. How many minutes before the website show my correct hash rate and do you have any idea why it says my hash rate from an account is 0.26mh/s but no miner has been pointed on it for 2 straight days? Probably some sort of bug, what is the miners count showing? Also what about when you go to your workers page. It says number of workers : 0 which is correct but the hash rate is 0.26 mh/s This is now fixed. We have done quit a bit of work today. Fixed redemption bugs, this bug, cleaned up settings page, wrote a blog post about balances, modiffied the profit switcher heavily, started documenting the api page, and added some coins. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Vitalogy on January 27, 2014, 05:59:48 PM Just wondering what's going on...
On Twitter you said that you disabled Lottocoins. However we still mine LOT several times. Most of time we don't find LOT and NET blocks. In the last 10 rounds (1927-1936), for a duration of about 2.5 hours, only 2 rounds paid something. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 27, 2014, 11:25:39 PM Just wondering what's going on... On Twitter you said that you disabled Lottocoins. However we still mine LOT several times. Most of time we don't find LOT and NET blocks. In the last 10 rounds (1927-1936), for a duration of about 2.5 hours, only 2 rounds paid something. I re enabled Lottocoins because I determined that the pool is actually just fine. We have found lottocoins before, it is just higher diff for us that its rare for us to get the coins. Rounds with with no blocks aren't bad. The next time we get an LOT or NET round we could get blocks within minutes, its all about luck and about looking at things in the long term. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 27, 2014, 11:29:37 PM Is anyone interested in having a dedicated coin pool / traditional pool on hashbros. All our servers are dedicated to profit switching but we can add some for those that want to just mine a traditional pool.
Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: cderfv on January 28, 2014, 12:01:20 AM what the meaning of "Awaiting Withdrawal" means our earnings are still not full yet we gain more when finished? because the gains are not equal in the dashboard? the dashboard gains are much larger than what appears on the account.
Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Vitalogy on January 28, 2014, 12:01:47 AM Just wondering what's going on... On Twitter you said that you disabled Lottocoins. However we still mine LOT several times. Most of time we don't find LOT and NET blocks. In the last 10 rounds (1927-1936), for a duration of about 2.5 hours, only 2 rounds paid something. I re enabled Lottocoins because I determined that the pool is actually just fine. We have found lottocoins before, it is just higher diff for us that its rare for us to get the coins. Rounds with with no blocks aren't bad. The next time we get an LOT or NET round we could get blocks within minutes, its all about luck and about looking at things in the long term. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: chilin_dude on January 28, 2014, 12:08:02 AM Similar to how wafflepool has the stats page that lists avg mh per 24hours, 2days, 7 days, youy need to replicate this - I realise that you are a small pool and think this will lower profits at first, but its the first thing many people look at. http://wafflepool.com/stats
Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 28, 2014, 12:14:47 AM what the meaning of "Awaiting Withdrawal" means our earnings are still not full yet we gain more when finished? because the gains are not equal in the dashboard? the dashboard gains are much larger than what appears on the account. Awaiting withdrawal means your coins have been exchanged to BTC and attributed to your confirmed balance. Once we withdraw from the exchange those rounds become finished, and the confirmed balance => redeemable balance. Basically we dont want people claiming earnings when we dont have the BTC out of the exchange. You're actually correct about the discrepancy. I'm going to take a look at that. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 28, 2014, 12:26:17 AM Similar to how wafflepool has the stats page that lists avg mh per 24hours, 2days, 7 days, youy need to replicate this - I realise that you are a small pool and think this will lower profits at first, but its the first thing many people look at. http://wafflepool.com/stats Wasn't too familiar with this. We will implement something very similar. Also mind blown that those guys are mining luckycoin and casinocoin Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 28, 2014, 08:10:23 AM what the meaning of "Awaiting Withdrawal" means our earnings are still not full yet we gain more when finished? because the gains are not equal in the dashboard? the dashboard gains are much larger than what appears on the account. This is now fixed. Turned out to be a caching issue. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 28, 2014, 08:16:20 AM Similar to how wafflepool has the stats page that lists avg mh per 24hours, 2days, 7 days, youy need to replicate this - I realise that you are a small pool and think this will lower profits at first, but its the first thing many people look at. http://wafflepool.com/stats I just started collecting historic data on workers and on pools. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 29, 2014, 12:28:38 AM Going to be implementing historic orhpan rate of rounds into consideration for the profit switching also. For instance fastcoin looks great but in reality the block time is so fast that it is less profitable than it seems.
Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 29, 2014, 06:31:27 AM Dashboard round display bugs fixed.
Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 29, 2014, 07:52:18 AM Going to have pool/user wide profitability per MH on each round/day shortly. We're collecting worker, round, and pool data as we speak. Going to be displaying it soon!
Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 29, 2014, 08:53:52 AM Fixed a bug where deposits of 0.0 would fail and pause the trading of the round.
Engine getting better and better. Also made it so that when we switch to another coin it has to have been the most profitable coin for the past ~ 5 mins to ensure that there aren't any spikes throwing off the engine. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: chilin_dude on January 29, 2014, 04:10:09 PM Going to have pool/user wide profitability per MH on each round/day shortly. We're collecting worker, round, and pool data as we speak. Going to be displaying it soon! sounds great!Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 30, 2014, 03:09:33 AM Going to have pool/user wide profitability per MH on each round/day shortly. We're collecting worker, round, and pool data as we speak. Going to be displaying it soon! sounds great!pool metrics are not public but are working, we also have profitability estimates for each rounds graphed too. I just wanted to say that the pool profitability has increased drastically since we stopped trying to mine coins with higher diff. We cutoff coins that have an estimated block time of more than 5 mins and we are no longer wasting time on LOT, NET, PHGS, ETC and the earnings show very well. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 30, 2014, 09:11:04 AM Thanks to our new algorithm tweaks, earnings have truly increased quite a bit. Once we stopped mining slightly higher diff coins we got much more consistent payouts. Also having the engine look at the profit history of coins instead of the instant profit value has given us more reliable switches. On top of that we have been recording the purity of a coin, aka how many orphans/blocks mined. We get a truly better understanding of the real value in a coin.
Give us some more time and things will be even better. Daily estimated earnings will be up soon as well. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 30, 2014, 09:26:15 AM In other news payouts are now redeemable. We raked in 1.5 BTC today, good job bros.
Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: chilin_dude on January 30, 2014, 01:36:58 PM Going to have pool/user wide profitability per MH on each round/day shortly. We're collecting worker, round, and pool data as we speak. Going to be displaying it soon! sounds great!pool metrics are not public but are working, we also have profitability estimates for each rounds graphed too. I just wanted to say that the pool profitability has increased drastically since we stopped trying to mine coins with higher diff. We cutoff coins that have an estimated block time of more than 5 mins and we are no longer wasting time on LOT, NET, PHGS, ETC and the earnings show very well. And is there any plan on when you would reimplement these higher diff coins when the pool gets to X amount of mhs? Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 31, 2014, 01:09:13 AM Going to have pool/user wide profitability per MH on each round/day shortly. We're collecting worker, round, and pool data as we speak. Going to be displaying it soon! sounds great!pool metrics are not public but are working, we also have profitability estimates for each rounds graphed too. I just wanted to say that the pool profitability has increased drastically since we stopped trying to mine coins with higher diff. We cutoff coins that have an estimated block time of more than 5 mins and we are no longer wasting time on LOT, NET, PHGS, ETC and the earnings show very well. And is there any plan on when you would reimplement these higher diff coins when the pool gets to X amount of mhs? Higher diff coins will be considered automatically. We just set the threshold lower so the estimated block time has to be less than 5 mins. Once the hash rate goes up higher diff coins will have lower estimated block finding times. I suspect the metrics will go public tomorrow, HashBrosB is working on it and styling it up. We're just both in school so somedays we have less time that others. In other news rounds aren't being reported properly for some coins. I will look into it when I get home from work. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on January 31, 2014, 10:45:52 PM Had some really awful issues yesterday where worker credits weren't being updated. This happened due to a timeout when calling the REST API of the coin nodes. The REST API call runs some rather expensive queries and nodes were returning the query in ~ 100 seconds. Rewrote that so that it's much less DB heavy and now response times are about ~3 seconds. So that's fixed that issue.
We have some other issues where worker stats are taking a while to process but I have a pretty good idea of how to multiprocess a ton of stuff. Will keep everyone updated tonight. Metrics are looking good for tonight. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on February 01, 2014, 12:27:35 AM METRICS ARE UP! http://hashbros.co.in/metrics
Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: spherix on February 01, 2014, 10:42:45 AM about a week since I joined.
I must say I'm very pleased with both the profits and the website. I hope it stays for a long time. kind regards Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on February 01, 2014, 10:43:33 AM about a week since I joined. I must say I'm very pleased with both the profits and the website. I hope it stays for a long time. kind regards It's only going to get better Thanks for the support <3 Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on February 01, 2014, 11:24:44 PM Over .01 BTC /MH!
Also SSL! https://hashbros.co.in/metrics Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on February 02, 2014, 10:12:23 AM Greater visibility into Historic User and worker hash rates, access them by clicking the user icon and going to workers or by clicking on your username!
In other news leaderboards disabled because doing the calculations makes our web server timeout. We are going to be calculated the leaderboard stats in a scheduled job so that they will display very very fast. Also removing current hash rates from the leaderboards as that is a very expensive thing to calculate accurately. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: chilin_dude on February 04, 2014, 01:21:17 AM Keep up the improvements, the 24hour metrics are good, how about some longer term ones Ie 24 hour avg, 3day avg, 7 day avg?
Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on February 04, 2014, 01:30:51 AM Keep up the improvements, the 24hour metrics are good, how about some longer term ones Ie 24 hour avg, 3day avg, 7 day avg? We can do that as well. I think i may have discovered a pretty big flaw in percentage of work calculation. I'm pushing a fix right now. We'll see how this influences earnings. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: chilin_dude on February 04, 2014, 01:39:10 AM Nice, I think you've got a brilliant GUI on the website atm, and 0.008 per mh atm is a pretty good base to start at - middlecoin which you're undoubtedly going to be compared to is only averaging ~0.01 at the minute, so we're only slightly trailing currently and this is still early stages of the pool.
Hopefully the potential flaw you spotted makes it even more profitable :) Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on February 04, 2014, 01:40:50 AM Nice, I think you've got a brilliant GUI on the website atm, and 0.008 per mh atm is a pretty good base to start at - middlecoin which you're undoubtedly going to be compared to is only averaging ~0.01 at the minute, so we're only slightly trailing currently and this is still early stages of the pool. Hopefully the potential flaw you spotted makes it even more profitable :) Well I just fixed the bug and you can see the share rate has exploded since we are now accounting for diff. What it will actually do is propagate earnings more properly. Our top hasher just lost percentage from 22% to 14%. So that means more earnings for me and you. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on February 04, 2014, 02:05:20 AM Nice, I think you've got a brilliant GUI on the website atm, and 0.008 per mh atm is a pretty good base to start at - middlecoin which you're undoubtedly going to be compared to is only averaging ~0.01 at the minute, so we're only slightly trailing currently and this is still early stages of the pool. Hopefully the potential flaw you spotted makes it even more profitable :) Also, we lost hashes for about 45 mins last night so thats will kill our BTC/MH pretty hard. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: chilin_dude on February 04, 2014, 02:10:29 AM I've just pointed another couple of mh at you anyway, good feedback so far.
I was wondering if you had any input on the way you calculate profitability of certain coins, such as dogecoin. On your profitability index it is assumed the block reward is 500000.00 which is the same as dustcoin etc list, however I have read that this is the average block reward, and that each block reward is actually independent, and that the block reward is known BEFORE it is mined. Therefore by knowing if the current block reward is over 500000.00 you know it is more important to mine as more profitable, where as if the current block were only 100000.00 (5x lower) you would know it is 5x less profitable. Another mulitmining pool on the up, wafflepool has written about this a fair few times, this being in one of his posts: "This is the way most pools do it, and you're absolutely right that statistical averages work out to 500k/block (using doge for the rest of this example). However, the block reward for the block you're _actively_ mining for is known when you're mining it. It is based on the last known block hash. For example (and its a really ELI5 style example - the actual code is much more complex). But say the next block reward is worth whatever the last digit of the previous block hash was (assume 0-15 for last digit values). Statistically you'd earn 8 coins for the next block, however, if we know for a fact that the last block hash ended in "F" (15), we know that the next block reward is definitively going to be worth 15 coins. Which makes for a _much_ different profitability calculation for if the next block is worth mining. Since the function for generating block rewards is known (in the client), and all the inputs are known (previous block hash, etc), we can use the _actual_ block reward, rather than the statistical average in our calculations. Long term, this should give us better performance in earnings. " Thanks. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: phzi on February 04, 2014, 02:12:29 AM Are you guys setup to predict the value of the next block for the various variable reward coins, yet? (e.g. dogecoin, lottocoin)
Waiting for that before I give HashBros a try again, because calculating profitability based on average dogecoin reward make absolutely no sense at all. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on February 04, 2014, 02:14:33 AM I've just pointed another couple of mh at you anyway, good feedback so far. I was wondering if you had any input on the way you calculate profitability of certain coins, such as dogecoin. On your profitability index it is assumed the block reward is 500000.00 which is the same as dustcoin etc list, however I have read that this is the average block reward, and that each block reward is actually independent, and that the block reward is known BEFORE it is mined. Therefore by knowing if the current block reward is over 500000.00 you know it is more important to mine as more profitable, where as if the current block were only 100000.00 (5x lower) you would know it is 5x less profitable. Another mulitmining pool on the up, wafflepool has written about this a fair few times, this being in one of his posts: "This is the way most pools do it, and you're absolutely right that statistical averages work out to 500k/block (using doge for the rest of this example). However, the block reward for the block you're _actively_ mining for is known when you're mining it. It is based on the last known block hash. For example (and its a really ELI5 style example - the actual code is much more complex). But say the next block reward is worth whatever the last digit of the previous block hash was (assume 0-15 for last digit values). Statistically you'd earn 8 coins for the next block, however, if we know for a fact that the last block hash ended in "F" (15), we know that the next block reward is definitively going to be worth 15 coins. Which makes for a _much_ different profitability calculation for if the next block is worth mining. Since the function for generating block rewards is known (in the client), and all the inputs are known (previous block hash, etc), we can use the _actual_ block reward, rather than the statistical average in our calculations. Long term, this should give us better performance in earnings. " Thanks. Right so we don't calculate this internally and this is certainly something we wouldn't display on the public API for free. Since we've never had the ability to mine something like DOGE it's never really mattered to us because the DIFF is just too high. But that is definitely something to look into for lottocoin. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on February 04, 2014, 02:15:27 AM Are you guys setup to predict the value of the next block for the various variable reward coins, yet? (e.g. dogecoin, lottocoin) Waiting for that before I give HashBros a try again, because calculating profitability based on average dogecoin reward make absolutely no sense at all. We don't but we will in the future when it matters. Right now we don't mine doge or lotto because of diff. The estimated time to block time has to be less than 5 mins for us to even look at it. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: phzi on February 04, 2014, 02:19:33 AM Are you guys setup to predict the value of the next block for the various variable reward coins, yet? (e.g. dogecoin, lottocoin) Waiting for that before I give HashBros a try again, because calculating profitability based on average dogecoin reward make absolutely no sense at all. We don't but we will in the future when it matters. Right now we don't mine doge or lotto because of diff. The estimated time to block time has to be less than 5 mins for us to even look at it. I don't understand this logic. Are you just trying to decrease variability? The most profitable thing to mine is the most profitable thing to mine. high diff increase your variance, but not your profits over time. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: chilin_dude on February 04, 2014, 02:20:51 AM Funny how that question doesn't get asked then gets asked twice within 5 minutes, great minds think alike!
So currently we're not mining the higher difficulty coins because of fear of increased variance (even tho long term payout would be better), is there a way to display on the profitability page then, the coins that currently are unminable by our pool, so that when we go on we don't see say Dogecoin top, then Lotto second and wonder why instead we are mining the third choice coin at much lower profitability? You could just put a line overlaying the whole of the coin to give the user an idea of what is and isn't currently possible. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on February 04, 2014, 02:22:21 AM The whole purpose of pooled mining is to join efforts for more consistent payouts. Why would we mine DOGE as a pool when our estimated time to find a block is over 1 day. That is absolutely retarded. Is it more profitable? In a utopian world yes but it could take plus or minus hours and be much more or much less profitable than it really is. By the time we find a block it could crash and not be as profitable as it once was.
Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on February 04, 2014, 02:24:12 AM Funny how that question doesn't get asked then gets asked twice within 5 minutes, great minds think alike! So currently we're not mining the higher difficulty coins because of fear of increased variance (even tho long term payout would be better), is there a way to display on the profitability page then, the coins that currently are unminable by our pool, so that when we go on we don't see say Dogecoin top, then Lotto second and wonder why instead we are mining the third choice coin at much lower profitability? You could just put a line overlaying the whole of the coin to give the user an idea of what is and isn't currently possible. What I may do is have a rotation listed under the profit switching pool under the pools tab. The profitability page is more for the public as a resource. This will have to be thoroughly explained because I get it ALL the time, "Why aren't you mining DOGE?!". Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: chilin_dude on February 04, 2014, 02:26:38 AM Are you guys setup to predict the value of the next block for the various variable reward coins, yet? (e.g. dogecoin, lottocoin) Waiting for that before I give HashBros a try again, because calculating profitability based on average dogecoin reward make absolutely no sense at all. We don't but we will in the future when it matters. Right now we don't mine doge or lotto because of diff. The estimated time to block time has to be less than 5 mins for us to even look at it. I don't understand this logic. Are you just trying to decrease variability? The most profitable thing to mine is the most profitable thing to mine. high diff increase your variance, but not your profits over time. But i think what matters it the Emh/day (expected megahash per day) regardless of the variance involved (even with high diff coins). I think the idea of multicoin mining is the maximise our expected payout. By joining a pool we also lower our variance comparatively to just multicoin mining by ourselves. Dont think its just about more consistent payouts, but more consistent higher payouts which is what happens when you mine the highest profitability coin (be it doge lotto annon franko) regardless of difficulty (in the long run, or short run the variance evens out). Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on February 04, 2014, 02:29:22 AM Are you guys setup to predict the value of the next block for the various variable reward coins, yet? (e.g. dogecoin, lottocoin) Waiting for that before I give HashBros a try again, because calculating profitability based on average dogecoin reward make absolutely no sense at all. We don't but we will in the future when it matters. Right now we don't mine doge or lotto because of diff. The estimated time to block time has to be less than 5 mins for us to even look at it. I don't understand this logic. Are you just trying to decrease variability? The most profitable thing to mine is the most profitable thing to mine. high diff increase your variance, but not your profits over time. But i think what matters it the Emh/day (expected megahash per day) regardless of the variance involved (even with high diff coins). I think the idea of multicoin mining is the maximise our expected payout. By joining a pool we also lower our variance comparatively to just multicoin mining by ourselves. Dont think its just about more consistent payouts, but more consistent higher payouts which is what happens when you mine the highest profitability coin (be it doge lotto annon franko) regardless of difficulty (in the long run, or short run the variance evens out). People get pretty upset when there are rounds that are hours long without pay. It literally scares people away from the pool as I've had people complain. When we have a high enough hash rate to tackle doge blocks in under a couple hours I'll do it but now is just unreasonable. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: phzi on February 04, 2014, 02:33:01 AM People get pretty upset when there are rounds that are hours long without pay. It literally scares people away from the pool as I've had people complain. When we have a high enough hash rate to tackle doge blocks in under a couple hours I'll do it but now is just unreasonable. Solution: only mine the extremely profitable doge blocks... say, those that will be over 800,000,000 reward. Sure it might take you a few days to hit one, but the pool will absolutely profit in the end. And switch off doge as soon as a block is found and the next block's reward is lower. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on February 04, 2014, 02:34:47 AM People aren't as smart as you guys and don't think as long term. If they don't see earnings within hours they will bounce and I'm trying just to survive now.
Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: chilin_dude on February 04, 2014, 02:38:26 AM Are you guys setup to predict the value of the next block for the various variable reward coins, yet? (e.g. dogecoin, lottocoin) Waiting for that before I give HashBros a try again, because calculating profitability based on average dogecoin reward make absolutely no sense at all. We don't but we will in the future when it matters. Right now we don't mine doge or lotto because of diff. The estimated time to block time has to be less than 5 mins for us to even look at it. I don't understand this logic. Are you just trying to decrease variability? The most profitable thing to mine is the most profitable thing to mine. high diff increase your variance, but not your profits over time. But i think what matters it the Emh/day (expected megahash per day) regardless of the variance involved (even with high diff coins). I think the idea of multicoin mining is the maximise our expected payout. By joining a pool we also lower our variance comparatively to just multicoin mining by ourselves. Dont think its just about more consistent payouts, but more consistent higher payouts which is what happens when you mine the highest profitability coin (be it doge lotto annon franko) regardless of difficulty (in the long run, or short run the variance evens out). People get pretty upset when there are rounds that are hours long without pay. It literally scares people away from the pool as I've had people complain. When we have a high enough hash rate to tackle doge blocks in under a couple hours I'll do it but now is just unreasonable. Basically as phzi mentions, we only then mine the really profitable doge blocks not the ones 500k and below (since its known during mining) and we drop it when it decreases. Yes it will make some 15min mining blocks 0.00 payout, but you will have some bumper ones, and our Emh/day is WAY higher, maximising pool profitability, which in turn maximises attraction for others, and maximises the pool owners fees too, win win. Making it say 1.2x higher than the others profitability sort of is middleground (you can make it 1.3x or 1.4x if you want to be more risk averse). Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on February 04, 2014, 02:45:11 AM Are you guys setup to predict the value of the next block for the various variable reward coins, yet? (e.g. dogecoin, lottocoin) Waiting for that before I give HashBros a try again, because calculating profitability based on average dogecoin reward make absolutely no sense at all. We don't but we will in the future when it matters. Right now we don't mine doge or lotto because of diff. The estimated time to block time has to be less than 5 mins for us to even look at it. I don't understand this logic. Are you just trying to decrease variability? The most profitable thing to mine is the most profitable thing to mine. high diff increase your variance, but not your profits over time. But i think what matters it the Emh/day (expected megahash per day) regardless of the variance involved (even with high diff coins). I think the idea of multicoin mining is the maximise our expected payout. By joining a pool we also lower our variance comparatively to just multicoin mining by ourselves. Dont think its just about more consistent payouts, but more consistent higher payouts which is what happens when you mine the highest profitability coin (be it doge lotto annon franko) regardless of difficulty (in the long run, or short run the variance evens out). People get pretty upset when there are rounds that are hours long without pay. It literally scares people away from the pool as I've had people complain. When we have a high enough hash rate to tackle doge blocks in under a couple hours I'll do it but now is just unreasonable. Basically as phzi mentions, we only then mine the really profitable doge blocks not the ones 500k and below (since its known during mining) and we drop it when it decreases. Yes it will make some 15min mining blocks 0.00 payout, but you will have some bumper ones, and our Emh/day is WAY higher, maximising pool profitability, which in turn maximises attraction for others, and maximises the pool owners fees too, win win. Making it say 1.2x higher than the others profitability sort of is middleground (you can make it 1.3x or 1.4x if you want to be more risk averse). Thats something to think about. I'm going to have to look into calculating the block variable block reward sizes, you have any other resources or should I just look at the blockchain as a reference? Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: chilin_dude on February 04, 2014, 02:52:59 AM I don't know loads about it, just what I've read on this forum and over at reddit etc, there's a bit of stuff here:
http://www.reddit.com/r/wafflepool/comments/1wc5si/realtime_profitability_and_hash_rates/cf21qwf?context=3 & https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=433634.msg4880646#msg4880646 & https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=433634.msg4792853#msg4792853 Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on February 04, 2014, 03:00:09 AM I don't know loads about it, just what I've read on this forum and over at reddit etc, there's a bit of stuff here: http://www.reddit.com/r/wafflepool/comments/1wc5si/realtime_profitability_and_hash_rates/cf21qwf?context=3 & https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=433634.msg4880646#msg4880646 & https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=433634.msg4880646#msg4880646 Great, thanks. If waffle pool can do it im not too worried :) Also looks like his profitability rankings are a tad delayed :/ Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: chilin_dude on February 04, 2014, 03:10:25 AM I edited my post as the last link was a duplicate and was meant to be to a different quote, good luck, you're more intelligent than me to implement all of this stuff, I just try to read and understand it :)
Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: phzi on February 04, 2014, 05:29:21 AM I don't know loads about it, just what I've read on this forum and over at reddit etc, there's a bit of stuff here: http://www.reddit.com/r/wafflepool/comments/1wc5si/realtime_profitability_and_hash_rates/cf21qwf?context=3 & https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=433634.msg4880646#msg4880646 & https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=433634.msg4880646#msg4880646 Great, thanks. If waffle pool can do it im not too worried :) Also looks like his profitability rankings are a tad delayed :/ Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on February 04, 2014, 08:47:48 PM Apologies for the non updating stats for 3 hours. Shit broke while I was sleeping. In a nutshell our scheduled tasks run every minute. Sometimes the tasks take longer than a minute so we want to make sure this action is atomic. We use a lock file to ensure that tasks aren't run more than once at a time. For some reason the lockfile wasn't properly removed from a scheduled task and the new tasks wouldn't run. So i'll have to add some logic to delete lockfiles that are x minutes old in the event that they are stale.
Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: semik on February 04, 2014, 08:56:30 PM People get pretty upset when there are rounds that are hours long without pay. It literally scares people away from the pool as I've had people complain. When we have a high enough hash rate to tackle doge blocks in under a couple hours I'll do it but now is just unreasonable. Solution: only mine the extremely profitable doge blocks... say, those that will be over 800,000,000 reward. Sure it might take you a few days to hit one, but the pool will absolutely profit in the end. And switch off doge as soon as a block is found and the next block's reward is lower. And what if that block get orphaned? I was mining DOGE at https://dog.cryptoworld.eu/statsAuth we were counting on block for 106 Hours 10 Minutes and it get orphaned. Another took 49 Hours 3 Minutes oh shit.. Pool had about 200Mh/s in that time. The most of power of that pool is back to LTC now. For me HashBros logic to mine easy coins until pool gets bigger works perfectly. I've earned here 0.170BTC just from 31.1. with around 2Mhs power. A miracle! compared to my previous experiences. Thanks :) But please fix that lagging web interface. ;) Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on February 04, 2014, 09:00:02 PM People get pretty upset when there are rounds that are hours long without pay. It literally scares people away from the pool as I've had people complain. When we have a high enough hash rate to tackle doge blocks in under a couple hours I'll do it but now is just unreasonable. Solution: only mine the extremely profitable doge blocks... say, those that will be over 800,000,000 reward. Sure it might take you a few days to hit one, but the pool will absolutely profit in the end. And switch off doge as soon as a block is found and the next block's reward is lower. And what if that block get orphaned? I was mining DOGE at https://dog.cryptoworld.eu/statsAuth we were counting on block for 106 Hours 10 Minutes and it get orphaned. Another took 49 Hours 3 Minutes oh shit.. Pool had about 200Mh/s in that time. The most of power of that pool is back to LTC now. For me HashBros logic to mine easy coins until pool gets bigger works perfectly. I've earned here 0.170BTC just from 31.1. with around 2Mhs power. A miracle! compared to my previous experiences. Thanks :) But please fix that lagging web interface. ;) Refer to my previous post, it was a pretty trivial fix and it will be fixed in the future for sure. Glad you're enjoying the pool! Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: chilin_dude on February 04, 2014, 09:35:18 PM People get pretty upset when there are rounds that are hours long without pay. It literally scares people away from the pool as I've had people complain. When we have a high enough hash rate to tackle doge blocks in under a couple hours I'll do it but now is just unreasonable. Solution: only mine the extremely profitable doge blocks... say, those that will be over 800,000,000 reward. Sure it might take you a few days to hit one, but the pool will absolutely profit in the end. And switch off doge as soon as a block is found and the next block's reward is lower. And what if that block get orphaned? I was mining DOGE at https://dog.cryptoworld.eu/statsAuth we were counting on block for 106 Hours 10 Minutes and it get orphaned. Another took 49 Hours 3 Minutes oh shit.. Pool had about 200Mh/s in that time. The most of power of that pool is back to LTC now. For me HashBros logic to mine easy coins until pool gets bigger works perfectly. I've earned here 0.170BTC just from 31.1. with around 2Mhs power. A miracle! compared to my previous experiences. Thanks :) But please fix that lagging web interface. ;) At the end of the day it is all about expected mh/day and maximising this Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: damiano on February 04, 2014, 09:44:30 PM This is a very nice looking site. I am impressed
I will be switching a miner over in a few to test it out ;) Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on February 04, 2014, 09:49:50 PM This is a very nice looking site. I am impressed I will be switching a miner over in a few to test it out ;) Woohoo. On another note, back to .01 BTC/MH Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: stef942 on February 05, 2014, 03:22:21 PM Hi, my Redeemable Balance has not moved since at least this morning ??? something wrong ???
Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: HashBrosB on February 05, 2014, 06:42:16 PM Hi, my Redeemable Balance has not moved since at least this morning ??? something wrong ??? No, we have to manually transfer money from our Cryptsy wallet to our own so that we can make payouts redeemable. As long as your estimated and confirmed balance are going up while you mine, then there is nothing wrong. EDIT: You can read the whole process here: https://hashbros.co.in/blog/2014/estimated-balance-confirmed-balance-redeemable-balance Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on February 06, 2014, 02:57:39 AM Hi, my Redeemable Balance has not moved since at least this morning ??? something wrong ??? No, we have to manually transfer money from our Cryptsy wallet to our own so that we can make payouts redeemable. As long as your estimated and confirmed balance are going up while you mine, then there is nothing wrong. EDIT: You can read the whole process here: https://hashbros.co.in/blog/2014/estimated-balance-confirmed-balance-redeemable-balance Precisely. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on February 06, 2014, 03:25:03 AM In other news not much externally visible development has been going on. I've been working on moving from a unicorn app servers to a puma app server, mostly for speed and to decrease memory usage. We will probably be moving all the coin nodes to puma as well.
Next up I will be optimizing how our background tasks are done so that the coin stats job is run every single minute and things like processing redemptions will only happen every 15 minutes. There is also a problem where redemption processing can take a while when updating about 5k payout rows in the DB. We'll be optimizing this with batch updates. After this we're going to continue to look for ways to speed things up as demand will only go higher. On the front end prepare for more in depth worker/user/pool analytics and more API endpoints. Also we will be adding kittehcoin tonight. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on February 08, 2014, 01:05:29 AM Looks like the hash rate has dropped as some of our big miners have left after their earnings changed when we fixed a bug. If theres anything we could we'd love to hear it.
Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: chilin_dude on February 08, 2014, 01:48:29 AM The thing thats going to attract most users is increasing the amount of coins on the pool (particularly with new coins that are highly profitable) and increasing bth/mh.
Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on February 08, 2014, 01:58:12 AM The thing thats going to attract most users is increasing the amount of coins on the pool (particularly with new coins that are highly profitable) and increasing bth/mh. Right now we only support Cryptsy so we're a bit limited by that. Cryptsy has been really reliable for us and I can hardly imagine using other services because they are all so fucking sketchy and lack APIs. Coinedup has no APIs, Vircurex is way too sketchy, coinmarket.io has no trade API and once again, sketchy as hell. You can't even find out whos running some of these exchanges. We make tweak how our BTC/MH is calculated because other sites show the BTC/MH depending on only accepted shares which would inflate our rate a bit. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on February 11, 2014, 04:49:56 AM Despite our decreasing pool hash rate (*sniffle*) we're currently pulling out the highest BTC/MH/DAY we've ever had.
Currently sitting at 0.01148445 BTC/MH/DAY pretty amazin Also. Since the pool hash rate is low we're trying to cut costs, so we've taken down stratum servers for coins we don't ever mine. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on February 13, 2014, 10:48:19 AM Any hung redemptions should not be processed, a service's API was down causing the redemptions to fail. We now have a way of retrying failed redemptions cleanly and a better way to see them initially. Been busy this week with the real day job, should have some good development this weekend. Down worker notifications at the least.
Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: morfans on February 14, 2014, 06:56:38 AM just brought over 3.4 mh/s...really like the site..getting much less rejections than i was getting from middlecoin ..plus really like that we actually get to see whats happening :P
anyway..keep up the good work..cant wait to see where this pool goes!! Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on February 14, 2014, 08:38:02 AM just brought over 3.4 mh/s...really like the site..getting much less rejections than i was getting from middlecoin ..plus really like that we actually get to see whats happening :P anyway..keep up the good work..cant wait to see where this pool goes!! Great to hear! Thanks. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: phzi on February 18, 2014, 07:18:24 PM Are you guys fast switching for variable block reward coins yet? Ala, only mine when the next block is worth a certain amount. Or are you still calculating profitability based on average coin reward?
Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on February 18, 2014, 11:38:27 PM Are you guys fast switching for variable block reward coins yet? Ala, only mine when the next block is worth a certain amount. Or are you still calculating profitability based on average coin reward? We dropped alot of coins since our pool hash rate dropped so we aren't even running any variable coins yet. Title: Re: [ANN][MULTI] HashBros Beta [OPTIONAL-PS][VD][1-1.5%][PPLNS] Post by: Sovietaced on March 07, 2014, 10:10:16 AM Code drop : https://github.com/Sovietaced/Hashbros
Enjoy. |