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Title: Gambling system
Post by: Jartsu on May 27, 2018, 09:56:56 AM
Hey,

So it's been a while when I last posted on this forum.. Now I'm back with another thread about a project what I've been developing on/off for a while now. It's not exactly done yet, but it's quite close. Creating this thread quite early on to just keep track on the progress and maybe get ideas before I'll release a demo/beta of the site where everyone could test it and give me feedback based on that. Love hearing what others have to say and how I could improve myself! Currently there's not much do it, I'll leave a list what are the current features on the site probably could go in more specific, but would love to add that a little later on. Most on that list are just basic stuff, but as I'm planning to add pictures of the site as well I will update it for more specific details

If anyone is interested about this then site front end and client side is running on HTML/CSS and JavaScript and backend is on NodeJS.

Current features ~90% finished
  • Login
  • Register
  • Chat
  • User profile
  • Crash
  • Coinflip
  • Dice


Title: Re: Gambling system
Post by: ryan1918 on May 28, 2018, 04:40:46 PM
where's the test site at?


Title: Re: Gambling system
Post by: Mister1k on May 28, 2018, 04:48:06 PM
Hey,

So it's been a while when I last posted on this forum.. Now I'm back with another thread about a project what I've been developing on/off for a while now. It's not exactly done yet, but it's quite close. Creating this thread quite early on to just keep track on the progress and maybe get ideas before I'll release a demo/beta of the site where everyone could test it and give me feedback based on that. Love hearing what others have to say and how I could improve myself! Currently there's not much do it, I'll leave a list what are the current features on the site probably could go in more specific, but would love to add that a little later on. Most on that list are just basic stuff, but as I'm planning to add pictures of the site as well I will update it for more specific details

If anyone is interested about this then site front end and client side is running on HTML/CSS and JavaScript and backend is on NodeJS.

Current features ~90% finished
  • Login
  • Register
  • Chat
  • User profile
  • Crash
  • Coinflip
  • Dice

Hope you do have the test site. If you completely partial beta site also please share the link below mate. We could able to verify it. Me and my team is under IOS development now but we can do not front end designing and page development.
These are very normal features we need to have on the any kind of gambling site.
Take look at multiple sites if you find the good feature on that with the multiple gambling option please take that in implementation.


Title: Re: Gambling system
Post by: Jartsu on June 03, 2018, 08:59:37 AM
Hey,

I'll post a quick update here currently. I've done some testing myself in couple of games and currently it seems like it's working. Soon I'll have a demo here so I can get feedback from you and also test if it works properly. Currently doing couple of more tests with Crash and I should be able to get out the demo :)!

As I promised to give you a picture of the site here it is -> https://i.imgur.com/txIrT8y.png
There might be two things that will raise a question design and those "coin" images. I wouldn't say that this design is bad, but of course it can be improved to be something amazing, as in my opinion most important is the functionality so I just used a basic bootstrap theme. And answer to the coins, they are basically images from CS:GO (a shooter game), I used these because the animation for flipping just looked amazing in my opinion and I just couldn't let them go like that. If there are any more questions currently let me know :)

Regards


Title: Re: Gambling system
Post by: nc50lc on June 03, 2018, 09:21:38 AM
Seriously, you really need a front-end developer in your team.
Or at least pick a less-stressful color, gamblers will stare at their monitor for hours and the visuals are pretty important in that case.

My question is:
If ever a gambler questions the coinflip's match making for being suspicious about his previous opponents, claiming that those must be bots, what would be your answer?
And how can you explain to us that it is a "real" player, not a bot? Because it's technically possible.


Title: Re: Gambling system
Post by: Jartsu on June 03, 2018, 09:58:59 AM
Seriously, you really need a front-end developer in your team.
Or at least pick a less-stressful color, gamblers will stare at their monitor for hours and the visuals are pretty important in that case.

My question is:
If ever a gambler questions the coinflip's match making for being suspicious about his previous opponents, claiming that those must be bots, what would be your answer?
And how can you explain to us that it is a "real" player, not a bot? Because it's technically possible.

As I said about the design that I would call it a placeholder for now while I'm creating the main functions of it. I'm always open for suggestions how/what colors to use so it would be a lot better :). To just add there's no team it's more like One Man Army.

About the bot, as there is no "bot system" in place so I'm not really sure what to answer and even if there is a "bot" I'm not sure what would be the problem as the odds wouldn't change.


Title: Re: Gambling system
Post by: davis196 on June 03, 2018, 11:43:11 AM
What is this game?Just a coinflip?When it comes to gaming (and gambling) there are two main things to consider:
1.The game should be interesting to play.
2.The game has to be fair or atleast "probably fair".
What`s the point of creating a boring crypto game,when every gambler can just go to primedice or satoshimines?


Title: Re: Gambling system
Post by: nc50lc on June 03, 2018, 11:45:04 AM
I'm not questioning your integrity but asking a response to probable user issues, specially for a gambling site which receives as lot of criticism and complaints from the potential customers.

About the bot, as there is no "bot system" in place so I'm not really sure what to answer and even if there is a "bot" I'm not sure what would be the problem as the odds wouldn't change.

[1] Imagine if there's an irritated gambler, and he's totally convinced that there's something wrong with his losing streak.
Now, the first thing that comes in his mind is that the site is using bots that's bypasses the probably-fair system. Then he, rants.

The response "There is no bot system" wouldn't help in most cases and "even if there is a bot I'm not sure what would be the problem as the odds wouldn't change" can potentially drive away the players because you've just admitted that bots aren't an issue.

The problem is: If it was the owner's bot (which they[1] are thinking) their loses will drop straight to the owner's (your) pocket, and it really isn't fair for gamblers at all.
That's why player vs player game in gambling sites are rare.
With that, you need to research a wining response to those kind of customers,

TL;DR: Forget it, it's too early to think of that.  :-\
Any dark color will do or gray texture like this: (set to repeat)
http://randomace.tk/resource/chalkboard.jpg
White is eye-straining in my experience, example: bitcointalk.org :P


Title: Re: Gambling system
Post by: Jartsu on June 03, 2018, 01:34:02 PM
What is this game?Just a coinflip?When it comes to gaming (and gambling) there are two main things to consider:
1.The game should be interesting to play.
2.The game has to be fair or atleast "probably fair".
What`s the point of creating a boring crypto game,when every gambler can just go to primedice or satoshimines?

I guess if you would have read my topic, then you could have seen that there is not just an coinflip.
And there is provably fair system, currently I just haven't thought of a way showing the hash to the players and later showing the secret and winning percentage.
I hope these proper answers :)

I'm not questioning your integrity but asking a response to probable user issues, specially for a gambling site which receives as lot of criticism and complaints from the potential customers.

About the bot, as there is no "bot system" in place so I'm not really sure what to answer and even if there is a "bot" I'm not sure what would be the problem as the odds wouldn't change.

[1] Imagine if there's an irritated gambler, and he's totally convinced that there's something wrong with his losing streak.
Now, the first thing that comes in his mind is that the site is using bots that's bypasses the probably-fair system. Then he, rants.

The response "There is no bot system" wouldn't help in most cases and "even if there is a bot I'm not sure what would be the problem as the odds wouldn't change" can potentially drive away the players because you've just admitted that bots aren't an issue.

The problem is: If it was the owner's bot (which they[1] are thinking) their loses will drop straight to the owner's (your) pocket, and it really isn't fair for gamblers at all.
That's why player vs player game in gambling sites are rare.
With that, you need to research a wining response to those kind of customers,

TL;DR: Forget it, it's too early to think of that.  :-\
Any dark color will do or gray texture like this: (set to repeat)
http://randomace.tk/resource/chalkboard.jpg
White is eye-straining in my experience, example: bitcointalk.org :P
Thanks for giving me your side of the bot thing.. I guess I gotta do more research then about it, when I've finished with other stuff :).
Thanks again for the color/texture idea, I'll put it into my list to do things. Currently I would like to focus on finishing the games itself and then get into changing/updating stuff.


Title: Re: Gambling system
Post by: domasal on June 07, 2018, 05:02:12 PM
Is it on github yet? Always good to check out some open source code, but it will be tricky for a gambling site as you don't want to give any secrets away