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Title: Ripped OFF by bitbet.us
Post by: sn1cklefr1tz on January 25, 2014, 05:30:26 AM
I was ripped off by bitbet.us.  Granted, it was only .011 BTC but still, this was a while back when BTC was worth more.

He says that "everyone can see that I paid out".  Yes, but he paid somebody else (himself).  Clearly he should have paid me.  I just wanted to put a heads up to forewarn anyone thinking of losing betting on his site.  That's all.  I'm glad it wasn't more BTC that he stole from me.  Thanks guys.


Title: Re: Ripped OFF by bitbet.us
Post by: Faince1985 on January 25, 2014, 05:39:49 AM
Could you explain? what bet exactly did he settle in a bad way?


Title: Re: Ripped OFF by bitbet.us
Post by: keithers on January 25, 2014, 05:46:01 AM
Not much of an explanation there


Title: Re: Ripped OFF by bitbet.us
Post by: BTCisthefuture on January 25, 2014, 05:56:28 AM
Some more detailed information should be included such as the transaction id of the bet and the blockchain transactions. Also more detailed information what went wrong and how.

Accusations against casinos are common places amongst people who lose money :).  So you really do need to provide as much detail as possible otherwise most people just chalk it up as a 'sore loser' complaining.

Also if you were indeed frauded out of money then you should provide as much information as possible other people are aware of the problem and can/will stay away from the site. If a site is stealing money from people then the community needs to know about it, and we need more details to confirm it.


Title: Re: Ripped OFF by bitbet.us
Post by: Keyser Soze on January 26, 2014, 03:39:11 AM
Are you trying to say that they paid out your bet, but it went to a different address that you do not control? More information would be appreciated.


Title: Re: Ripped OFF by bitbet.us
Post by: sn1cklefr1tz on January 26, 2014, 04:32:00 AM
Yes Keyser:

631   0.01100000   14gP8    0.01093285   1KXzg

Clearly the credit(s) came from me (14gP8) and went to some https://blockchain.info/address/1KXzgzndQnugs5P8dmao1nj2AVviJQAmFV

The jerk refuses to correct his error.

Of further note, if vegas paid out the way this Matic "Tic, hence bloodsucker" guy pays out, they'd be entirely shutdown in less than 24 hours.

BITBET.US where even if you win, you lose (at least some, if not all).

Furthermore, notice that a winning bet of .011 returns less than the bet itself (despite its weight), if you even happen to get it.  Something is clearly seriously wrong with that guy!!  It would be nice if someone were to hack him (and all companies industrializing/profiting off the bitcoin with expensive rigs) and donate the bitcoins to charity (bitcoin100 or etc).


Title: Re: Ripped OFF by bitbet.us
Post by: quickandeasy on January 26, 2014, 07:12:58 AM
There were some earlier issues with them.

Have a look here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339544.0


Title: Re: Ripped OFF by bitbet.us
Post by: sn1cklefr1tz on January 26, 2014, 07:38:09 AM
Yes.  Clearly people need to avoid bitbet.us


Title: Re: Ripped OFF by bitbet.us
Post by: BTCisthefuture on January 27, 2014, 04:21:03 AM
No idea of the validity of these claims.  But it should be a good reminder for people to be careful using services/sites where owners are anonymous and unknown . Especially a service as historically shady and dirty as gambling.

If you lost your money chalk it up as a lesson learned and really try to be careful who you give your bitcoins too, especially in the gambling industry which has always been a shady business whether legal or illegal.

Anyone know if there's any bitcoin related gambling sites that are legally licensed and or the owners/companies info is public for all to see and hold accountable?  So far any gambling sites I've ever used the owners are always anonymous, which is highly risky regardless of how good of a track record they may have.


Title: Re: Ripped OFF by bitbet.us
Post by: kakobrekla on January 29, 2014, 12:32:18 PM
I was ripped off by bitbet.us.  Granted, it was only .011 BTC but still, this was a while back when BTC was worth more.

He says that "everyone can see that I paid out".  Yes, but he paid somebody else (himself).  Clearly he should have paid me.  I just wanted to put a heads up to forewarn anyone thinking of losing betting on his site.  That's all.  I'm glad it wasn't more BTC that he stole from me.  Thanks guys.

Dude, the outgoing payment went to the address the money came from. You fucked up and you want to make it look like there is some imaginary bug somewhere.

Furthermore, notice that a winning bet of .011 returns less than the bet itself (despite its weight),

Not 'despite of' but 'because of'. Works as it should, leecher. Also, notice the calc on site.

Get lost.


Title: Re: Ripped OFF by bitbet.us
Post by: MPOE-PR on January 29, 2014, 12:42:25 PM
No idea of the validity of these claims.  But it should be a good reminder for people to be careful using services/sites where owners are anonymous and unknown . Especially a service as historically shady and dirty as gambling.

If you lost your money chalk it up as a lesson learned and really try to be careful who you give your bitcoins too, especially in the gambling industry which has always been a shady business whether legal or illegal.

Anyone know if there's any bitcoin related gambling sites that are legally licensed and or the owners/companies info is public for all to see and hold accountable?  So far any gambling sites I've ever used the owners are always anonymous, which is highly risky regardless of how good of a track record they may have.

Stop being retarded. There are maybe five services in all of BTC where the owners are not anonymous and well known. Bitbet is MP and Kako, in this case.

It's universally a bad habit to speak on matters you don't understand. Put in the effort to find out what the fuck you're talking about first, so what you have to say may actually be worth reading. Someday.

Yes Keyser:

631   0.01100000   14gP8    0.01093285   1KXzg

Clearly the credit(s) came from me (14gP8) and went to some https://blockchain.info/address/1KXzgzndQnugs5P8dmao1nj2AVviJQAmFV

The jerk refuses to correct his error.

Of further note, if vegas paid out the way this Matic "Tic, hence bloodsucker" guy pays out, they'd be entirely shutdown in less than 24 hours.

BITBET.US where even if you win, you lose (at least some, if not all).

Furthermore, notice that a winning bet of .011 returns less than the bet itself (despite its weight), if you even happen to get it.  Something is clearly seriously wrong with that guy!!  It would be nice if someone were to hack him (and all companies industrializing/profiting off the bitcoin with expensive rigs) and donate the bitcoins to charity (bitcoin100 or etc).

There's no "error" you boob. When you enter a new bet, you get to specify a new address. This is published on the site, right then. Once the bet is resolved, that address receives the payment. This is verifiable on each and every bitbet bet, by simply clicking on the respective payout addresses as listed.

That said, your communication is defective in the following ways:

1. If you indeed control the originating address, you have failed to prove this. Go ahead and do so.

2. If indeed you have had a problem with some BitBet bet, you have failed to indicate which. All you have there is some blockchain tx, which, whatever - there's fifty thousand of these each day, anyone can find a list by just surfing the blockchain site and I'll be damned if I'm going to search BitBet for random addresses just because you're retarded.

3. If the payout address you used when you made your bet isn't one you control this is YOUR PROBLEM. Next time, use an address you control. Meanwhile, make posts about how fucking stupid you are, not about how you'd like to misrepresent some excellent service that had the misfortune of you bringing your stupidity to it that day.

4. Vegas got nothing on BitBet. The day Vegas has 1900 BTC proposition bets settled we may care, but until that day go tell Vegas how to be more like BitBet, not the other way around.

tl;dr: You being stupid does not give you license to go around throwing random insults at well respected sites. They won't stick on the market leader, they'll stick on you.


Title: Re: Ripped OFF by bitbet.us
Post by: Keyser Soze on January 29, 2014, 10:06:19 PM
Yes Keyser:

631   0.01100000   14gP8    0.01093285   1KXzg

Clearly the credit(s) came from me (14gP8) and went to some https://blockchain.info/address/1KXzgzndQnugs5P8dmao1nj2AVviJQAmFV

The jerk refuses to correct his error.

Of further note, if vegas paid out the way this Matic "Tic, hence bloodsucker" guy pays out, they'd be entirely shutdown in less than 24 hours.

BITBET.US where even if you win, you lose (at least some, if not all).

Furthermore, notice that a winning bet of .011 returns less than the bet itself (despite its weight), if you even happen to get it.  Something is clearly seriously wrong with that guy!!  It would be nice if someone were to hack him (and all companies industrializing/profiting off the bitcoin with expensive rigs) and donate the bitcoins to charity (bitcoin100 or etc).
The "in" address is where you sent your bet, not where your payment originated.

https://i.imgur.com/JKzXa94.jpg

Clearly you paid 0.011 from 1KXz... and received 0.01093285 into the same address. If you didn't have control of the address, you should have specified a different one when you placed the bet.

631 weight is very low, no surprise that the 1% fee caused a net loss.


Title: Re: Ripped OFF by bitbet.us
Post by: sn1cklefr1tz on January 30, 2014, 06:30:23 PM
I do not know what all the anger is about here...

All I know is that I paid .011 BTC on a winning bet and did not receive any compensation for it.  I sent a total of 0.022 btc on the same bet, just different dates.  All I received in return was .0108 or something around (possibly lower).  I do not appreciate the insinuations and insults and extreme potty-mouth (especially from the queen/girl).  Obviously I did SOMETIHNG right in order to receive ANYTHING BACK.  HOWEVER, I STAND AT THE SAME CONCLUSION AS WHEN I MADE THIS POST IN THE FIRST PLACE.  ALL OF YOU HATERS can go back and get your commissions from "TIC" now and STFU and stay off my honest and legit. post.

TYVM&HAND!!


Title: Re: Ripped OFF by bitbet.us
Post by: Keyser Soze on January 30, 2014, 06:51:09 PM
I do not know what all the anger is about here...

All I know is that I paid .011 BTC on a winning bet and did not receive any compensation for it.  I sent a total of 0.022 btc on the same bet, just different dates.  All I received in return was .0108 or something around (possibly lower).  I do not appreciate the insinuations and insults and extreme potty-mouth (especially from the queen/girl).  Obviously I did SOMETIHNG right in order to receive ANYTHING BACK.  HOWEVER, I STAND AT THE SAME CONCLUSION AS WHEN I MADE THIS POST IN THE FIRST PLACE.  ALL OF YOU HATERS can go back and get your commissions from "TIC" now and STFU and stay off my honest and legit. post.

TYVM&HAND!!
As I stated in my prior post, 631 weight out of 100,000 is very low. The amount won was less then the 1% fee the site charges. The screenshot I posted also shows it was paid out properly.


Title: Re: Ripped OFF by bitbet.us
Post by: Atruk on January 31, 2014, 06:27:00 AM
So it looks like it has been confirmed that there was no rip off?

Yes

I do not know what all the anger is about here...

All I know is that I paid .011 BTC on a winning bet and did not receive any compensation for it.  I sent a total of 0.022 btc on the same bet, just different dates.  All I received in return was .0108 or something around (possibly lower).  I do not appreciate the insinuations and insults and extreme potty-mouth (especially from the queen/girl).  Obviously I did SOMETIHNG right in order to receive ANYTHING BACK.  HOWEVER, I STAND AT THE SAME CONCLUSION AS WHEN I MADE THIS POST IN THE FIRST PLACE.  ALL OF YOU HATERS can go back and get your commissions from "TIC" now and STFU and stay off my honest and legit. post.

TYVM&HAND!!

Do you hate math or does math hate you?


Title: Re: Ripped OFF by bitbet.us
Post by: sn1cklefr1tz on February 03, 2014, 06:42:56 AM
NO.  BITBET DID RIP ME OFF.  You can confirm a lie, all that you want to.  That does not make it true.  Yes, I was ripped off by slush AND bitbet.us.  Just because they were similar amounts does not make my story untrue.  You people that believe otherwise are truly messed up in the head.

I DO NOT HATE MATH, YOU APPARENTLY HATE READING.

I SENT BITBET.US .022 btc AND GOT .010 btc BACK EVEN THOUGH I WON THE BET/GOT IT CORRECT.

YOU ARE THE FOOL THAT HATES MATH -=AND=- READING.


Title: Re: Ripped OFF by bitbet.us
Post by: sn1cklefr1tz on February 09, 2014, 04:28:57 PM

As I stated in my prior post, 631 weight out of 100,000 is very low. The amount won was less then the 1% fee the site charges. The screenshot I posted also shows it was paid out properly.
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Despite the fact that I was ripped off by approx. 0.11 BTC:
Wouldn't it be more fair for the 1% be deducted from all of the losing bets and then the payout from the left-over amount based upon weight?  YES, YESS, YESSS.