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Title: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: kojoannan on May 27, 2018, 05:13:53 PM
There is a minimum threshold one is allowed to travel beyond immigration border. In my country , you can't travel with more than $10,000;Unless you document and declare it.  Do you think I need to declare my cryptocurrency to the immigration? OR should I keep mute. My fear is I might be charge with money laundering if I later exchange my crypto at my destination and the authorities found out. Any body with experience to share with me.


Title: Re: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: Galley on May 27, 2018, 05:38:50 PM
And what kind of claims you may have from the immigration authorities. Are you carrying the crypto currency across the border in a suitcase? If you worry that you can then ask questions about the crypto currency, then think about what you can say about your millions on the border. You will always manage to lose your savings. This of course does not apply to those states where crypto-currency is generally banned.


Title: Re: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: TheBiochemist on May 27, 2018, 05:46:20 PM
Never even  thought about declaring it, you are free to have how much money you want in an account and withdraw what you need in the country you of choice.
Crypto is no different, just pay taxes on the buy and sell price, there are no other limitations, I could go to a country and just pay hotel bills no matter the size etc ? I guess you will transfer funds to your account. Otherwise i am not sure, if you do if off books it could be sensitive!

Oh perhaps not in North Korea and Iran since they lack a World bank branch!

The 10,000 treshhold does not apply to you account... that is 1 hotel night in Vegas! You can spend as much as you like if you travel with electronic cash!


Title: Re: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: webtricks on May 27, 2018, 05:49:49 PM
There is a minimum threshold one is allowed to travel beyond immigration border. In my country , you can't travel with more than $10,000;Unless you document and declare it.  Do you think I need to declare my cryptocurrency to the immigration? OR should I keep mute. My fear is I might be charge with money laundering if I later exchange my crypto at my destination and the authorities found out. Any body with experience to share with me.

It isn't necessary at all, you are over thinking on it. Number 1, crypto won't be classified as money, it will be considered asset and travelling with asset doesn't require disclosure.
Number 2, it is not like liquid money. Suppose you travel with Debit/Credit Card, it won't amount you are travelling with entire of your Bank balance. Only hard money counts here and cryptocurrencies aren't hard money.


Title: Re: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: slaman29 on May 27, 2018, 05:52:40 PM
There is a minimum threshold one is allowed to travel beyond immigration border. In my country , you can't travel with more than $10,000;Unless you document and declare it.  Do you think I need to declare my cryptocurrency to the immigration? OR should I keep mute. My fear is I might be charge with money laundering if I later exchange my crypto at my destination and the authorities found out. Any body with experience to share with me.

Don't be unnecessarily stupid. First of all, you do not have to declare any of it. You will just be laughed at or treated like a criminal. If the rules do not state you have to declare, then don't. Don't be a wise guy.

Also, why would you need to carry any of it with you anyway? Carry your private key or seed if you REALLY want to.


Title: Re: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: akamit on May 27, 2018, 06:08:11 PM
There is a minimum threshold one is allowed to travel beyond immigration border. In my country , you can't travel with more than $10,000;Unless you document and declare it.  Do you think I need to declare my cryptocurrency to the immigration? OR should I keep mute. My fear is I might be charge with money laundering if I later exchange my crypto at my destination and the authorities found out. Any body with experience to share with me.

You don't need to declare crypto when you are moving from X to Y destination.
But I think you need to clarify when you will exchange your crypto at Y destination and bring to your destination (X) if you get caught.

Let's say, you are moving with $10k cash and you have $20k in crypto in your online wallet or paper wallet.
So with your $10k you are good to go and assume that immigration doesn't known anything about your crypto.

But when you will return back with $20k cash and you get caught -  what will be your answer?
I assumed that your $10k cash was fully spent during your journey and you don't have any more cash from there.

So that is pure money laundering - anything without declaration is illegal... Customs may ask you how do you get such a big amount of money -  your answer?

You may say, I won a lottery in Las Vegas ::)  :D and doubled my cash... Proof? I'm not sure if casinos do provide any invoice of winning though  :)


Title: Re: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: malahivet930 on May 27, 2018, 06:09:37 PM
It isn't essential in any way, you are over reasoning on it. Number 1, crypto won't be named cash, it will be considered resource and going with resource doesn't require revelation. Number 2, it isn't care for fluid cash. Assume you travel with Debit/Credit Card, it won't sum you are going with whole of your Bank adjust. Just hard cash tallies here and cryptographic forms of money aren't hard cash.


Title: Re: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: KillyGon on May 27, 2018, 06:13:06 PM
travelling use crypto curency very dificult
because you can't exchange to fiat money, except you have crypto debit card, so you can exchange anytime and use money anytime with atm in the world


Title: Re: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: pri3oner on May 27, 2018, 06:14:45 PM
I haven't ever heard that issue u are talking about right now. It sounds wicked... Current laws doesnt force us to do it iwth our crypto funds. Yet...


Title: Re: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: sourish on May 27, 2018, 07:10:51 PM
Hahaha thats a really funny question, you mean to say you declare your bank balance each time you cross immigration.


Title: Re: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: jacafbiz on May 27, 2018, 07:13:53 PM
Do these immigration guys understand what Crypto is all about, one of the good thing about Crypto is that you can move around with million of USD and no one will know what you are carrying, to me it would be stupid to be declaring the value of Crypto one is carrying around


Title: Re: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: SalmanMJ9 on May 27, 2018, 07:21:36 PM
Why on earth would you declare it? It's the same if you have funds/cash in your bank account, would you declare that? You only declare what you have physically which is never the case with cryptocurrency


Title: Re: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: ningo on May 27, 2018, 07:22:12 PM
why will you declare bitcoin at immigration when travelling?all you need to do is to look at the country you are travelling to whether they are crypto friendly.Because cryptocurrency do not know borders or boundaries around the world,The only problem with travelling is that you need to know the regulation in that country concerning cryptocurrrency before you make up your mind to travel there or else you get there and cannot spend your money due to restrictions on cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: pey on May 27, 2018, 07:28:49 PM
Actually your bitcoin is just the combinations of words or numbers and letters, as you can keep it secret. You can move to anywhere with millions but spending can be issue


Title: Re: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: Katya91a on June 18, 2018, 05:45:48 PM
About your cryptocurrency in Aeroporto certainly report is not necessary... It is not serious, the immigration service did not believe the cryptocurrency for money.


Title: Re: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: cryptoking33 on June 18, 2018, 07:43:25 PM
There is a minimum threshold one is allowed to travel beyond immigration border. In my country , you can't travel with more than $10,000;Unless you document and declare it.  Do you think I need to declare my cryptocurrency to the immigration? OR should I keep mute. My fear is I might be charge with money laundering if I later exchange my crypto at my destination and the authorities found out. Any body with experience to share with me.

It is quite fascinating to hear that you want to declare your cryptocurrency to the authority. Or it a big joke? Cryptocurrency is a digital currency that most times operates with anonymity, I wonder how you intend to declare it. I have not heard such a thing before.


Title: Re: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: chaser15 on June 18, 2018, 08:22:28 PM
There is a minimum threshold one is allowed to travel beyond immigration border. In my country , you can't travel with more than $10,000;Unless you document and declare it.  Do you think I need to declare my cryptocurrency to the immigration? OR should I keep mute. My fear is I might be charge with money laundering if I later exchange my crypto at my destination and the authorities found out. Any body with experience to share with me.

Why should you declare it? The one that must be declare was cash on hand but there is no "show money" involved in most of the cases. Cryptos are not part of it as it was digital. Immigration fficers doesn't asked that question so why bother to tell them you have a cryptos.

Just be ready with your cash money (fiat). You want a less hassle interrogation so better just follow protocols and don't be regret if you convert some of your cryptos into cash to act as you cash money on immigration.


Title: Re: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: cryptohunter on June 18, 2018, 09:45:38 PM
are not just travelling with your private key?  that will let you access your crypto which is totally decentralised globally


Title: Re: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: Bencus on June 18, 2018, 10:20:48 PM
Cash is not cryptocurrency. If you have to declare any asset which might have high value, or exceed $10k, then you might want to think about declaring it. But I don't think so that would be the case.

About money laundering: if you can show the authorities how the transactions went, then I think it would clear you of the charges.


Title: Re: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: barlo357 on June 18, 2018, 10:28:13 PM
If I were you don't travel in country which is still banned the crypto, and for the other country will allow it make it sure how much their corresponding value of money they allowed so that no hassle for you. I think no need to declare it to immigration.


Title: Re: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: Hueristic on June 18, 2018, 10:54:57 PM
There is a minimum threshold one is allowed to travel beyond immigration border. In my country , you can't travel with more than $10,000;Unless you document and declare it.  Do you think I need to declare my cryptocurrency to the immigration? OR should I keep mute. My fear is I might be charge with money laundering if I later exchange my crypto at my destination and the authorities found out. Any body with experience to share with me.

How do you travel with a decentralized chain?

Do you declare whats on your credit cards?

This is a moronic thread and I bit.


Title: Re: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: ayo_deji1 on June 18, 2018, 10:58:33 PM
I really do not think it's necessary as the fact that it's decentralized. Of, course, nothing is impossible. With the way things are going, crypto would change the world, definitely. But, your crypto is just about your anonymity, you don't need declare it to anyone.


Title: Re: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: andongdanisi on June 19, 2018, 09:33:52 AM
Are you stupid? The cryptocurrency is a free currency and you don't have to declare that you hold the cryptocurrency. You don't need to tell everyone that you own the cryptocurrency. This is your own protection. You can boldly use cryptocurrencies when you go to Japan, but you can't do that in countries like Mexico.


Title: Re: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: KuromaYoichi on June 19, 2018, 09:37:59 AM
There's no need to declare anything as they don't even know that you are bringing that much money, they don't need to know that for your own convenience. If they know then they ask you to provide some document it is more works to do, you can stay quote about it and just spend the crypto later.


Title: Re: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: AlphaGoo on June 19, 2018, 09:39:49 AM
I don't think you need to make any declaration to the immigration office. The cryptocurrency is your property only when it is converted into cash. Now it is just a number, and I think you use cryptocurrency even in other countries. , your country can not find it is you use!


Title: Re: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: PsylockReborn on June 19, 2018, 09:43:58 AM
There is a minimum threshold one is allowed to travel beyond immigration border. In my country , you can't travel with more than $10,000;Unless you document and declare it.  Do you think I need to declare my cryptocurrency to the immigration? OR should I keep mute. My fear is I might be charge with money laundering if I later exchange my crypto at my destination and the authorities found out. Any body with experience to share with me.

As long as you are not bringing cash with you then no need to worry about your crypto. Those crypto that you have in your wallet has been taxed by the government and they can't do anything if you're going to exchange it into cash anywhere in the world. As long as you are not doing illegal stuff with your money.


Title: Re: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: tulpash on June 19, 2018, 10:54:45 AM
There is a minimum threshold one is allowed to travel beyond immigration border. In my country , you can't travel with more than $10,000;Unless you document and declare it.  Do you think I need to declare my cryptocurrency to the immigration? OR should I keep mute. My fear is I might be charge with money laundering if I later exchange my crypto at my destination and the authorities found out. Any body with experience to share with me.

As long as you are not bringing cash with you then no need to worry about your crypto. Those crypto that you have in your wallet has been taxed by the government and they can't do anything if you're going to exchange it into cash anywhere in the world. As long as you are not doing illegal stuff with your money.
Yes, people need to declare cash only when traveling. This certainly does not apply to crypto currency. In many countries there is generally no such thing as a crypto currency, in these countries there is no law that would regulate operations with crypto currency.


Title: Re: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: fortunecrypto on June 19, 2018, 11:06:40 AM
There is a minimum threshold one is allowed to travel beyond immigration border. In my country , you can't travel with more than $10,000;Unless you document and declare it.  Do you think I need to declare my cryptocurrency to the immigration? OR should I keep mute. My fear is I might be charge with money laundering if I later exchange my crypto at my destination and the authorities found out. Any body with experience to share with me.

The only way they will know it, is if you tell them that you have cryptocurrency, what if they ask you to open your wallet so they could see how much do have, will you do it, silence is going to be a virtue here, so keep it to yourself and find a way they will not discover you have cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: jpnl0002 on June 19, 2018, 11:07:32 AM
there is no need whatsoever in declaring ICO related asset or ones crypto currency in the immigration of any country as it is not supposed to be tailored to your name like other assets would. it can only be spent and not tied to you like and equipment or a luggage


Title: Re: Travelling with Cryptocurrency? Do you declare it at immigration ?
Post by: Paulo171 on June 19, 2018, 11:17:16 AM
WOW! to me this is like declaring thin air to them, it's tangible yet intangible, physical yet not physical. money laundering laws only apply to physical cash you may have on you at that point so except they have the device(i haven't invented it yet), then they don't know how wealthy I am.