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Congratulations. I just destroyed my bitcoin stash of about 30 coins due to a brainfart. I transfered my coins to a wallet on another computer and before the backup had a chance to run on that machine I reformatted the drive, destroying my coins.
I hope the value of your coins go up, and I'm officially out of the bitcoin world. It was fun while it lasted.

there's still a chance to get them back, if you didn't write anything to the sectors the wallet.dat was at... there's a guide somewhere also. try searching the forum

Thanks. This explains the exchange rates today.

sucks to be you, but thanks

try "hirens boot cd" there are several tools which can be quite useful.

Yeah, theoretically you only need to recover 32 bytes.

I'm pretty sure people like you are already priced in, thanks anyway.

So you're "officially out of the bitcoin world" because you lost $180 of wealth?  You've posted almost 500 posts... isn't that a bigger investment?

Yeah, you should go buy coins on MtGOX and push the price up for the people smart enough to get out.

This.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=25091.0

pull the wallet.dat from an older backup of that machine (even one before the transfer occurred)

Perhaps it was the realization Bitcoins are far too easily lost, far more so than paper money.

Yes, with the advantage of being able to send money instantaneously from Alaska to Singapore with no fee and no middle-man comes the oppressive responsibility of backing up one's wallet.

I know how you feel. I lost 50btc in a similar incident. It doesn't mean you have to leave the community. 

If it was such a no-brainer, Bitcoin wouldn't still be relegated to the margins. Its utility vs. current usability is far overstated. Don't kid yourself.

do you have any clue as to what you're shilling?  if you're so against the concept why do you WASTE SO MUCH TIME HERE!?  are you that worthless or are they paying that much?

i've worked with bit coin thru and thru and can attest firsthand to all the claims made here about its efficiency and utility.

Don't confuse short-term and long-term. Current usability is mediocre, agreed. Make an attempt to see the future, Shinobi. The first automobile was considered a silly, expensive toy for the rich. Many problems. Many glitches. Many undue accidents and unrefined systems. Totally silly to imagine that private industry might figure out how to harness the potential and fix the problems.

If you didn't format using dban or of some sort, you could have/could recover them with recuva http://www.piriform.com/recuva

While this is good news for the immediate future, its stuff like this that makes my skin boil. Bitcoins are kind of like Elves. They rarely come into being, there's a finite number of them and each loss is a tragedy!  >:(

also the 1st land line phones were considers a fad for the rich that would go nowhere. everyone was like, "just who you gonna call, anyway??? hardly anyone else has em."

course bitcoins may not ever get that popular (or even a small percent of that, or just fail anyway), but without someone giving it a shot and hanging in there through the tough times it has no chance at all.

P2P social currency is the next big thing and everyone knows it. Bitcoin is the next Master Charge when people realize how accessible it is compared to debit cards. It will take time. If you lost your stash, just buy one bitcoin and hold it for a few years and see. It is a cheap gamble, but the odds are high of bitcoin's success.

Mt.Gox already seems to be slowly positioning itself for the future - I suspect most people who use bitcoins in the future won't even know that bitcoins were used to transfer value. Bitcoin is a protocol of value transfer.
The mt.gox code mechanism can already be used to move funds to a top up debit card (https://www.aurumxchange.com/), and you can already move currency on mt.gox between 15 different currencies.
If you want to pay a Chinese seller the cheapest way in the world right now is to use mt.gox (hence they have a Hong Kong bank account).
I doubt the future of bitcoin will involve people actually using bitcoins directly (though it will still remain a niche) - bitcoin will be the intermediate exchange mechanism of choice as it's easily the cheapest.

Cryptocurrency may go big, but it won't be bitcoin.  The die hard libertarians surrounding it scare most people off.  Extremists of any sort tend to turn people off, even if they make sense. 

Die hard libertarians will always embrace cryptocurrencies, and will likely flock to whichever is currently the best. Them's the breaks.

Yep. Somewhat more than that in practice right now of course, since it's a bit tricky to reliably figure out which 32 bytes you need to recover. (Also I'm lazy; that's why it currently involves a slightly arcane command-line program.)

The die hard libertarians are already being diluted by the pragmatists and industrialists in this community.  It's the fact that libertarians are so trollable which keeps them so visible here.
They're a noisy minority - prod them for the hilarity while you still can!

Don't fret.

This is not real life.

To most people this is not even money, and money is nothing.

Not worth boiling your skin over.

Nah, I just think that the libertarians should have someone from the real world to talk to every now and then. The simplistic view of the world they have must be challenged every now and then, or the circle-jerk becomes self sustaining.

The thing is, when I had a small stash I could experiment, try building small apps and such. Now I have nothing to anchor me to bitcoin and will probably invest my time elsewhere. I might cpu-mine a little on my work machine so in a year or two I'll have a BTC again. And if bitcoin ever becomes the $100000/BTC someone predicted I'll be happy. In the more likely scenario where bitcoins aren't worth any money I've just created a little more heat around my workspace which isn't bad in my climate.

I still think cryptocurrencies are interesting, but I think I'll just wait for googlecoin or something similar to show up.  ;D

Sorry to see you go :(

Never give up, never surrender.

I don't understand. If you dropped your wallet while out on a boat and it fell in the water and sank... would you give up using money after that?

There's a million ways to lose regular dollars/dinero/yen/euro but it would be pretty weird if you moved to a cave in the jungle and stopped using money because of that.

Better you learn the lesson that any newly created wallet should immediately be backed up / printed out. Also remember that a wallet doesn't hold the value transacted but just the keys. So any previous backup will work for getting keys to transactions made later.

like maged said:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=25091.0

do it now! I did, and got my btc back.

how exactly do you do that, without going via BTC and paying the spread... twice?

No you wont. Chances are a bread will cost $1000000 then.

But you can divide a bitcoin as much as you want, while you can't divide an elf  :D

That is why phones were first advertised as being useful in an emergency - you could call the fire department for example.

Pfft.. any dwarven axe knows better!

I think that bitcoin losses in the short term are no big deal for the system as a whole. 
It would be 'nice' to have an idea of how many coins are in circulation, but if it gets to the point where there appear to be few left and it's a concern that large stashes thought lost, could suddenly reappear and devalue the currency; then perhaps that would be the time to migrate to a new chain.
I'm guessing that would be centuries away, unless there is some IT apocalypse which destroys a large percentage of wallets.

I can totally imagine private industry being welcomed to take over bitcoin and fix the problems!  ::)


Yeah, we need the AT&T of bitcoin, that should make everything work! Or maybe government to set up and own all the infrastructure!  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)