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UPDATE: I'm continuing the giveaways in my forum so You are!: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=435883.msg4789666#msg4789666 <= Solution ( EVERYONE IS WELCOME TO MAKE GIVEAWAYS IN TWC FORUM! )

Hello everyone, it's @ThisWeeksCoin.

An hour ago, theymos, owner of bitcointalk.org made a announcement. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=434310.0

Read the topic I've posted above, come back and vote.


I'm willing to PAY with my own money for a HDD/SSD just to have a giveaway section.


EDIT: Don't just vote. Put some words to show them why we need a giveaway section.

Of course that cryptocoins have no sense nor future if they can not be advertised!!

Read this : )

We need giveaways only way some people trust a new coin is to get some for free helps build and I am sure people made donations to get this site up and running

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I think people should be allowed to promote their coins and promote giveaways in any way they want. It's their coins they can do what they like. Best example was the Coinye West rap thread, that was really fun. We more stuff like that here to promote coins.

it should be moved into a new sub-forum.

that's the whole point of having sub-forums.

the issue is clutter, then move clutter into somewhere where it is no longer clutter :)

Would be great to see a giveaway-subforum, because right now some admin is locking giveaway threads without supplying a reason. It leaves people hanging and unable to communicate and promote.

We need a new sub-forum for Giveaways

Especially for people that start with "collecting" coins its nice to get into a giveaway section.

we're told that 'some people' donated, and 'some people' don't want altcoins to be discussed at all on BITCOINtalk... well some people don't have to visit the altcoin threads, there is a search box and several sections for different topics already... it's about time the admins listen to MOST of the people and give us what we want, or risk losing a lot of visitors to this site...
somebody pm me when the giveaways come back,  I'll see you then

Never stopped the giveaways.

Just hope none will get banned until theymos finds a solution.

Legitimate giveaways helped me become more interested in certain coins rather than others that have no giveaways or no potential.

I would rather see a sub category rather than censorship or the removal of the altcoin form completely.

Edit: I don't have equipment to mine GPU coins so giveaways are the only way I'm able to participate in using those particular coins



I vote to have a sub category

We need a giveaway subforum!

Announcement threads helped me become more interested in certain coins, not the spam of giveaway threads. I personally think its a good idea banning giveaways.

I think that we definitely need a subforum for giveaways. It is an excellent way to test the currencies. However, I do think that the worst scammers/spammers should be banned!

I voted for a subforum. I find it overkill to lock threads and ban people over giveaways. If giveaways are spamming the forums then why not have a subforum for giveaways? Problem solved and everyones happy.

We definately need a giveaway section!

absolutely positively 100% f*cking yes.
ive posted in the other thread. really not a good idea to link giveaways from bitcointalk, it would mean if someone wants to enter a giveaway they would have to join another forum. all these coins just want to promote themselves and this could slow down cryptocurrencies going mainstream.

A subforum is definitely the way to go. If people who is not interested on altcoins find the altcoins posts a kind of spam of something worst, with a subforum the problem is solved. If the problem is a hardware or any kind or resources shortage, the first post of  KeyserSozeMC on this thread is saying it all. I really don't see any relevant reason for not having an Altcoin subforum.

Cheers!

Actually for me it's yes and no. I respect the forum owners decision because I agree with their arguments.

On the other hand, this forum is the first stop for anyone interested in the wonderful world of cryptocurrency so it would be a real nice addition to all the functional information one can find on this forum. However if giveways draw too much from the sites recources then it's better, for now, to ban them.

We'll see where it goes, even I can setup a forum with my meagre IT knowledge so I bet there will be a solution sooner than later. For now it's nothing but a logistical problem. Dev's can advertise their coin here and direct interested people to their websites for a giveaway. Just like spreading hashrates over different pools I guess.

I have more powerful arguments than they do. Just wont say anything yet.

They waste their time.

They were getting out of hand, but I think putting them in a separate forum would be all that was needed to sort the mess out.

Actually giveaway really helps miners to get interested on a new coin. Truly, i have learnt more about the coins through their giveaway thread with a lot of useful information and newsletter. Some of them really helps me to find out potential coin and get my interest to mine it. I SELDOM NOTICE A NEW COIN IF I DONT GET ANY CANDIES AS THERE ARE LOTS OF """GOOD""" COIN IN ANN.

Anyway, I am not sure why the owner do not want to make a subforum and specifically handle such "so high volume" of threads. Storage Cost? Efforts? If the real cost is very low and it is purely admin do not want to make it as he is not paid too much and he is too tired.
Why dont utilize such large amount of audience and post some advertisement on that subforum???
My brief daydreaming idea:  (two cases)

1. Giveaway thread holders pay to Bitcointalk
Each Giveaway thread sets a upper bound. Users can only post a new giveaway in a certain period of time. If giveaway holders want to raise the upper bound or increase number of giveaway thread in a certain period of time, they have to pay certain fees to Bitcointalk.

2. Third party advertisers pay to Bitcointalk
Everyone who post a new reply, instead of waiting 6 or 8 minutes, they have to watch 3 advertisement and each of them are 20 seconds (Just like those btc-clicks) before the giveaway participants successfully post their replies.
(ie Write reply, click "post reply", watch advertisement, reply sent out). While it benefits users by the writing time shorter, it also helps bitcointalk earns money and cuts spam replies.

PS: I will prefer 1 min total advertisement instead of 6 minutes waiting time in my point of view ;)

After all, purely banning the giveaway and dis-attracting hundreds of new users (or any users targeting on giveaway) is a waste. Sometimes threats come with opportunities (sorry for my bad translation). Have a look of those dogecoin giveaways.One giveaway is already above 1500 post. If you charge those advertisers per advertisement, it will be a huge amount of gold. Surely, getting giveaway already becomes famous for bitcointalk. I know the insight or vision of bitcointalk may not be like that. You may want to hold valuable discussion in this forum. Yep, you could do it just by simply separating us into subform.

After that, you can keep your clean and formal and peaceful discussion of alt-coin in the main section and potentially make a big money on sub-forum. And we got our happy giveaway.
Win-win situation. Why not?


To KeyserSozeMC, the admin is not saying you cannot hold a giveaway. Just you have to hold it offsite and post a link there. I guess this may be your last resort. You may establish a new forum or using other social networking platform and just post a link in bitcointalk.

One more point: this removal really disadvantages those dev-teams without offsite forum and any technical skills in that area. IF YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO MAKE A WEBSITE OR FORUM, YOU CANT HOLD GIVEAWAY XD.

There should be 2 giveaway sections. one for the gambling section and a general one for other giveaways *if there are any* or at least renaming the games and rounds to giveaways or something like that.

Exactly what I have been contacting the staff about for months. I have never received a single PM back, and now I see they have banned it all together. Terrible move.

i think the poll speaks for its self, just needs to be sorted out now. doge flipped everything on its head.

I think if an alt coin section is allowed then there should be a giveaway subsection in there. The other option is to just get rid of the alt section all together.

I think the "reply with your address" spam bumped threads to the top of the "Unread posts since your last visit" and honestly it annoyed me.

It looks a bit more interesting now.

Perhaps if giveaway threads required claims to be off-site or "Twitter/FB/Website" based, it would have removed a lot of the problems.

The "reply with address" is just the laziest way to do it and the path of least resistance.

A sub-forum that is excluded from the unread posts or has solid rules (like "no rewarding board actions, including reply or post your address") would make sense.

I mean, what about the "Off-Topic" board? Or rewarding altcoin activity with Satoshis? I'm sure those determined to annoy will keep doing it.

How about this forum sucks?

How about they fix the search function?
How about they fix ''unwatch'' function?
How about they fix the bugs in the forum?

I already suggested a non-post-count sub-section. They wouldn't have to moderate it. It would be free for all.
Every damn forum has a spam section.

What's wrong with the search? None post-count section(s) could be a good idea.

That's what he said.


They can, they'll get banned for it though.

I think it makes sense to have a subforum for giveaways, I think the suggestion to have it paid for is nice but I don't think the cost is an issue.

if any1 can explain why a subforum just for giveaways is a bad idea, im listening. keeps all the spam in one convenient place and still allows people with no mining hardware a chance to gain some coins and be part of the community.

after all this is bitcointalk not bitcoinminersonly.

a guy playtrading $5 of free coin can still easily expose a rich Mr. Moneybags to cryptos, we all win.

giveaways = $$$ for everyone :D:D:D

the same people have been spamming since i joined, but NOW they have decided to ban people???? lmao ... if they had taken care of trolls for the past months it wouldn't have escalated to the point where they feel helpless to do anything so they overreact

We're not talking about trolls, we're talking about people who would intentionally and repeatedly break a clearly posted rule.

yes! either give us back our giveaway threads, or put them in special section!

once again, if these people were CLEARLY breaking the rules, and weren't banned, then THAT is the problem... just as i said, the admin team let it slide and let it slide, and now it's gotten to the point where it is.... and NOW we are supposed to believe that people will actually begin to get banned??? what is that saying about an ounce of prevention and a pound of cure??

I vote no  :) Go do it on your own forum  ;D

Bitcoin is the parent of all the altcoins.  Why are you eating your young?  Put them in a nursery!

If people break the rules then ban them, don't cut off a key avenue for new entrants to the crypto-currency community.

It wasn't against the rules before now, so they weren't breaking the rules. I don't see how this is confusing.

Well, that's a plus for me ( Personal gain ).
But I'm thinking about the community of this forum, I'm not an egoist.

in the other thread you posted that those people who 'ANNOY' will be banned..... so being annoying wasn't against the rules, but now it is??? maybe that's the part that's confusing, because i didn't read that anywhere outside of you post

That was a response to this post, read the context, then you decide if I'm talking about people being annoying in general, or people who are being annoying by continuing to post giveaways.

giveaway is the support for altcoin ..

Point taken. I didn't read the "Most" in "Most giveaway threads". I was thinking it was "All"..

I had seen the "link to another page" when I read it, it just didn't sink in.

I think the rule makes sense, just think it would have made sense to give a 24 hour heads up or something. No reason to stir up a hornets nest.

Of course this is basically a den of thieves, with most of the worst of them in the Bitcoin sections - selling and trading BCT accounts , scamming on real transactions (instead of the fakey AltCoin ones)...

Enough, please.

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