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Title: pm for new users makes transactions with them extremely slow
Post by: nomadcrypto on May 30, 2018, 11:41:32 PM
The subject basically says it all. The limits of 2x personal messages per day makes many transactions involving escrows and new users extremely slow. So slow that I will probably no longer deal with users that have those pm limits. I can understand some sort of a limit but 2? That seems extremely excessive.


Title: Re: pm for new users makes transactions with them extremely slow
Post by: ohniceo on May 31, 2018, 12:01:07 AM
I agree. I would say 5 is the magic number. You can always use a different site however like Telegram or good old fashioned email.


Title: Re: pm for new users makes transactions with them extremely slow
Post by: nomadcrypto on May 31, 2018, 12:09:35 AM
I agree. I would say 5 is the magic number. You can always use a different site however like Telegram or good old fashioned email.

The issue is that any communication with the escrow should happen on site. It can easily take more than 2 to just work out the details with a new user.

5 to 10 would make sense.


Title: Re: pm for new users makes transactions with them extremely slow
Post by: ohniceo on May 31, 2018, 12:29:29 AM
You are totally correct. I am not sure if this change would ever happen, but it definitely would be nice.


Title: Re: pm for new users makes transactions with them extremely slow
Post by: ohniceo on May 31, 2018, 12:34:23 AM
Looking into it, it looks like they can get 5 PMs per hour, can you tell me where you got this other information?

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Limits on PMs
Quote from: theymos on July 10, 2013, 10:43:13 PM
I've adjusted the limits to make spamming more difficult.

Activity     Min. seconds between post actions     Max PM recipients     PMs per hour
0   360   3   5
16   74   5   30
30   60   5   60
60   30   5   60
100   12   10   120
200   10   15   120
300   8   20   120


Title: Re: pm for new users makes transactions with them extremely slow
Post by: Zwei on May 31, 2018, 12:44:26 AM
The limit of 2 PM per day is set for a reason, that to make spamming more difficult, as theymos said, and for those type of deal that involve escrow you can always do them in public,

Looking into it, it looks like they can get 5 PMs per hour, can you tell me where you got this other information?

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--snip--

what you quoted is outdated, here is the current limit

ActivityMax recipientsMax recipients if whitelistedMax PMs per hourMax PMs per hour if whitelistedMax PMs per dayMax PMs per day if whitelisted
02101402120
15310104015120
30510104030120
1007142080150600
25015301201203001200
500303012012012001200


Title: Re: pm for new users makes transactions with them extremely slow
Post by: Tyrantt on May 31, 2018, 01:12:56 AM
There are countless apps and services that you can use. Pm in that case should be used as, one who's interested in the services, would ask for a contact and what's he looking for in a few short lines and you respond with your contact. I don't know why's this so much of a problem.


Title: Re: pm for new users makes transactions with them extremely slow
Post by: nomadcrypto on May 31, 2018, 01:22:02 AM
There are countless apps and services that you can use. Pm in that case should be used as, one who's interested in the services, would ask for a contact and what's he looking for in a few short lines and you respond with your contact. I don't know why's this so much of a problem.

It is a problem in a real world situation for me right now. The buyer wants to release the escrow but can't because the pm limit per day is 2. At this point the pm limits has turned this 1 day transaction into 3. In that time the price has dropped a little too. Making the entire situation not worth dealing with at all in the future


Title: Re: pm for new users makes transactions with them extremely slow
Post by: ohniceo on May 31, 2018, 01:40:55 AM
Sorry about the outdated information, can you try whitelisting this user to make the escrow continue? I have no idea how, but it looks like a thing.


Title: Re: pm for new users makes transactions with them extremely slow
Post by: nomadcrypto on May 31, 2018, 01:42:13 AM
Sorry about the outdated information, can you try whitelisting this user to make the escrow continue? I have no idea how, but it looks like a thing.

if I can do that I will now.


Title: Re: pm for new users makes transactions with them extremely slow
Post by: Zwei on May 31, 2018, 02:11:07 AM
Sorry about the outdated information, can you try whitelisting this user to make the escrow continue? I have no idea how, but it looks like a thing.

if I can do that I will now.

No you can't, here is why:

You are automatically whitelisted if you buy a copper membership (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=credit;promote). You don't need to wear the copper membership, just own it. You can also be whitelisted for free by any staff member and a few non-staff, but we're going to need some reason to think that you actually deserve it. Do not ask me for free whitelisting.


Title: Re: pm for new users makes transactions with them extremely slow
Post by: ohniceo on May 31, 2018, 03:03:53 AM
Ok sorry about that, I had no idea. I just noticed the word whitelist and thought it may help. You can have the user buy a copper membership or attempt to get whitelisted. The odds that the number will be changed is very slim.