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Title: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize
Post by: TheIrishman on January 29, 2014, 06:52:29 PM
Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/29/edward-snowden-nominated-nobel-peace-prize (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/29/edward-snowden-nominated-nobel-peace-prize)

<< Two Norwegian politicians say NSA whistleblower's actions have led to a 'more stable and peaceful world order'. >>



Title: Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize
Post by: practicaldreamer on January 29, 2014, 09:24:33 PM
Is there a Nobel Prize for having Balls ?

If there is I think that this might be more appropriate tbh.

Peace Prize and I'm thinking Mahatme Ghandi - Edward Snowden and I'm thinking principled, moral, courageous - but not necessarily peace though.


Title: Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize
Post by: Wilikon on January 29, 2014, 09:43:01 PM
This is what will happen to him if wins and try to get the Nobel prize money..

http://www.emerchantbroker.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/paypal-denied.png


Title: Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize
Post by: Carlton Banks on January 29, 2014, 09:59:18 PM
<< Two Norwegian politicians say NSA whistleblower's actions have led to a 'more stable and peaceful world order'. >>

I don't know where they got that idea from, he's succeeded in making everyone more uncomfortable using modern communications infrastructure, and the solutions are not yet convincing enough to get back the privacy everyone thought they had. He probably won't win the prize anyway (and the whole thing is pretty invalid anyway, Henry Kissinger won for war crimes, Barack Obama won for being elected the first black US president and consequently committed war crimes and imperialistic killings, and Alfred Nobel was an arms manufacturer. This prize has a real peaceful pedigree)


Title: Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize
Post by: yatsey87 on January 29, 2014, 10:18:52 PM
Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/29/edward-snowden-nominated-nobel-peace-prize (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/29/edward-snowden-nominated-nobel-peace-prize)

<< Two Norwegian politicians say NSA whistleblower's actions have led to a 'more stable and peaceful world order'. >>



This is great news. Hope he wins. He deserves it.


Title: Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize
Post by: hilariousandco on January 29, 2014, 10:27:31 PM
This is what will happen to him if wins and try to get the Nobel prize money..

http://www.emerchantbroker.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/paypal-denied.png

Haha. They should pay him in Bitcoins.

Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/29/edward-snowden-nominated-nobel-peace-prize (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/29/edward-snowden-nominated-nobel-peace-prize)

<< Two Norwegian politicians say NSA whistleblower's actions have led to a 'more stable and peaceful world order'. >>



This is great news. Hope he wins. He deserves it.

Is it? It means nothing. They gave this award to Barack Obama a few years ago. It's a joke.


Title: Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on January 29, 2014, 11:33:04 PM
hopefully he wins it!


Title: Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize
Post by: Nik1ab on January 30, 2014, 09:32:20 AM
Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/29/edward-snowden-nominated-nobel-peace-prize (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/29/edward-snowden-nominated-nobel-peace-prize)

<< Two Norwegian politicians say NSA whistleblower's actions have led to a 'more stable and peaceful world order'. >>


How, by leaking information that can get overseas spies arrested and possibly executed? What a joke...
That would be a good thing if he did, so yeah.


Title: Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize
Post by: Lethn on January 30, 2014, 09:50:46 AM
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How, by leaking information that can get overseas spies arrested and possibly executed? What a joke...

Fuck you loyalist.


Title: Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize
Post by: hilariousandco on January 30, 2014, 10:46:11 AM
Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/29/edward-snowden-nominated-nobel-peace-prize (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/29/edward-snowden-nominated-nobel-peace-prize)

<< Two Norwegian politicians say NSA whistleblower's actions have led to a 'more stable and peaceful world order'. >>


How, by leaking information that can get overseas spies arrested and possibly executed? What a joke...

Isn't spying against the laws of the country they're spying on? And did he actually leak info on spies? Pretty sure he didn't.


Title: Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize
Post by: Nik1ab on January 30, 2014, 01:14:05 PM
Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/29/edward-snowden-nominated-nobel-peace-prize (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/29/edward-snowden-nominated-nobel-peace-prize)

<< Two Norwegian politicians say NSA whistleblower's actions have led to a 'more stable and peaceful world order'. >>


How, by leaking information that can get overseas spies arrested and possibly executed? What a joke...

Isn't spying against the laws of the country they're spying on? And did he actually leak info on spies? Pretty sure he didn't.
He should have done that though.


Title: Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize
Post by: hilariousandco on January 30, 2014, 01:26:07 PM
Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/29/edward-snowden-nominated-nobel-peace-prize (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/29/edward-snowden-nominated-nobel-peace-prize)

<< Two Norwegian politicians say NSA whistleblower's actions have led to a 'more stable and peaceful world order'. >>


How, by leaking information that can get overseas spies arrested and possibly executed? What a joke...

Isn't spying against the laws of the country they're spying on? And did he actually leak info on spies? Pretty sure he didn't.
He should have done that though.

Really? Why?


Title: Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize
Post by: act now on January 30, 2014, 02:09:03 PM
Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/29/edward-snowden-nominated-nobel-peace-prize (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/29/edward-snowden-nominated-nobel-peace-prize)

<< Two Norwegian politicians say NSA whistleblower's actions have led to a 'more stable and peaceful world order'. >>


How, by leaking information that can get overseas spies arrested and possibly executed? What a joke...

Isn't spying against the laws of the country they're spying on? And did he actually leak info on spies? Pretty sure he didn't.
He should have done that though.

Really? Why?
+1
Espionage is the important part of the politics and info on that is really will be harming pretty much any govs


Title: Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize
Post by: plateex on January 30, 2014, 04:08:21 PM
well, the president already has the Nobel peace prize... why couldn't Snowden have it, too  :)


Title: Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize
Post by: mgburks77 on January 30, 2014, 04:11:07 PM
They should take Obama's peace prize and give it to snowden


Title: Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize
Post by: Wilikon on January 30, 2014, 04:25:32 PM
I can tell lots of "newbies" are pro NSA on a bitcoin forum... Strange.

First of all not US secrets are out yet. Nothing about Bigfoot, Area 51, who shot JFK or what company did the demolition job by installing multiple tons of TNT near people's office for days before 9/11... :)


Title: Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize
Post by: eorituz on January 30, 2014, 05:19:11 PM
They should take Obama's peace prize and give it to snowden

+1


Title: Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize
Post by: Carlton Banks on January 30, 2014, 05:32:24 PM
adjust basically every post in here to end with "...according to Glenn Greenwald and The Guardian"


Why didn't The Guardian, or Glenn Greenwald, or Laura Poitras show any interest in publishing the previous NSA whistleblowers? Who said everything Snowden said and more, and who still live in the US, some of whom have never been charged with any offense?

I'm not saying there's a definitive answer to these questions, but there's more to it than what's in any news reporting, that should be pretty obvious. 


Title: Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize
Post by: plateex on January 30, 2014, 05:42:11 PM
They should take Obama's peace prize and give it to snowden

+1


Title: Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize
Post by: uranian on January 30, 2014, 07:35:58 PM
Interview from a day or 2 ago with Snowden (banned by youtube, at least the link I found):

http://vimeo.com/85295929


Title: Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize
Post by: hilariousandco on January 30, 2014, 09:40:55 PM
Interview from a day or 2 ago with Snowden (banned by youtube, at least the link I found):

http://vimeo.com/85295929

Was it really banned? Why would they ban it?


Title: Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize
Post by: Nik1ab on January 31, 2014, 12:56:10 AM
Interview from a day or 2 ago with Snowden (banned by youtube, at least the link I found):

http://vimeo.com/85295929

Was it really banned? Why would they ban it?
They are americans...


Title: Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize
Post by: uranian on January 31, 2014, 01:00:04 PM
Interview from a day or 2 ago with Snowden (banned by youtube, at least the link I found):

http://vimeo.com/85295929

Was it really banned? Why would they ban it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x38jkFlPeg

It says the uploader has made this unavailable in your country; yet a random look at other vids from ARD shows nothing similar. I see no reason that the German station would ban it, given that the interview is in English.


Title: Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize
Post by: jcoin200 on January 31, 2014, 06:53:49 PM
The vimeo link wouldnt work for me, but here is a link that is currently working:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f93_1390833151#CltLpX3Ch1sjL1FG.99

This, as well as his original interview with Glenn Greenwald should be seen by everyone, in America and elsewhere.


Title: Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize
Post by: sickhouse on February 03, 2014, 02:00:44 AM
That shit is so rigged, wouldn't even surprise me if he won. Whistleblowing seems to be the latest years hot topic.


Title: Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize
Post by: Carlton Banks on February 03, 2014, 09:19:10 PM
I don't know where they got that idea from, he's succeeded in making everyone more uncomfortable using modern communications infrastructure, and the solutions are not yet convincing enough to get back the privacy everyone thought they had.
Snowden made everyone's communications seem more important than they actually are, and his methods were entirely non-violent. The dubious honor of constant surveillance is not only awarded to technical specialists, public figures, and the wealthy, but also to Blogger Bob and Opinionated Alice. You just need to type or say any of these words in any context:

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[... ...]

Yes, saying "Bubba the Love Sponge" will get your post flagged for domestic terrorism.

That's quite a list (I don't even know what over half of it means. How does saying "football" qualify? Some kind of domestic militia codeword!?)

From looking at the developments in places like Greece, Brazil and Ukraine in the last 12 months, I wouldn't be surprised if "rioters" and "extremist political activists" becomes the reason given that everyone's communications get monitored, whether they use "listed" words/expressions or not.  

Which is another way of saying that we're likely under those conditions already. Would anyone actually believe it if the NSA annnounced: "all domestic surveillance of all types is now switched off, it was morally wrong after all. Sorry about that everybody"?


Title: Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize
Post by: TheButterZone on February 03, 2014, 11:31:47 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_football

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2013/11/nearly-two-decades-nuclear-launch-code-minuteman-silos-united-states-00000000/


Title: Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize
Post by: Carlton Banks on February 04, 2014, 12:36:08 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_football

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2013/11/nearly-two-decades-nuclear-launch-code-minuteman-silos-united-states-00000000/

Ahhhh, that football.


Title: Re: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize
Post by: newflesh on February 04, 2014, 12:45:39 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_football

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2013/11/nearly-two-decades-nuclear-launch-code-minuteman-silos-united-states-00000000/
I remember reading about that a while back, think we need a global ban on nukes. If countries want to fight/invade each other, they should only use hand-to-hand combat, kinda like a royal rumble but without the steroids and cheesy music.