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Title: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: Thadeous on June 04, 2018, 09:04:47 PM
According to Cointelegraph: Steve Wozniak: Bitcoin Is ‘The Only Digital Gold’ (https://cointelegraph.com/news/steve-wozniak-bitcoin-is-the-only-digital-gold)

“Only Bitcoin is pure digital gold… and I totally buy into that. All the others tend to give up some of the aspects of Bitcoin. For example, being totally decentralized and having no central control. That's the first one they have to give up to try to have a business model.”

There are only three questions come to my mind after checking this article:
- when 20k?
- when Moon?
- when Lambo?  ;D


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: cryptohunter on June 04, 2018, 09:08:03 PM
According to Cointelegraph: Steve Wozniak: Bitcoin Is ‘The Only Digital Gold’ (https://cointelegraph.com/news/steve-wozniak-bitcoin-is-the-only-digital-gold)

“Only Bitcoin is pure digital gold… and I totally buy into that. All the others tend to give up some of the aspects of Bitcoin. For example, being totally decentralized and having no central control. That's the first one they have to give up to try to have a business model.”

There are only three questions come to my mind after checking this article:
- when 20k?
- when Moon?
- when Lambo?  ;D


smart guy i totally agree

keep this at the top of page 1

these latest and greatest designs with high tps are simply far more centralised but of course most people don't seem to realise they are losing far more than they gain

pow is the only trustless way to distribute also


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: eternalgloom on June 04, 2018, 09:18:11 PM
I'm glad that he's at least not changing his opinion about Bitcoin a whole lot, unlike some other people.
I think it was Bill Gates who kind of flip-flopped his position on whether Bitcoin was a good or bad sort of technology.

I also wonder how much Steve Wozniak has actually used Bitcoin, I'd bet he's probably made a few transactions at the very least.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: cryptohunter on June 05, 2018, 05:44:43 PM
wozniak is a genuine inventor not like a copy cat like gates


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: leonidas89 on June 05, 2018, 06:08:09 PM
What a legend, he's a very smart man.

As much as I love Bitcoin there are many arguments as to why it's a poor currency, specifically.

But as digital gold... BOOM! There has never been such a decentralised asset which can not be forcibly confiscated etc.

I think the use case of digital gold is Bitcoin's future.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: funsponge on June 05, 2018, 06:29:43 PM
I'm glad that he's at least not changing his opinion about Bitcoin a whole lot, unlike some other people.
I think it was Bill Gates who kind of flip-flopped his position on whether Bitcoin was a good or bad sort of technology.

I also wonder how much Steve Wozniak has actually used Bitcoin, I'd bet he's probably made a few transactions at the very least.

Yeah with a lot of the celebrities endorsing Bitcoin as soon as it hits a bump and the price starts falling they'll throw it under the bus. Steve does seem to care about it even when it's not doing so well. I think he deserves a little credit for that at least.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: gentlemand on June 05, 2018, 06:42:52 PM
All the others tend to give up some of the aspects of Bitcoin. For example, being totally decentralized and having no central control. That's the first one they have to give up to try to have a business model.”[/i]

I find it genuinely astounding how few people can be bothered to think this one through.

If you don't start off from this basis you don't ultimately have shit a vast amount of effort down the line. It's going to require some brutal object lessons until this necessity is wrapped enough around minds.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: darkangel11 on June 05, 2018, 06:59:13 PM
I'm glad that he's at least not changing his opinion about Bitcoin a whole lot, unlike some other people.
I think it was Bill Gates who kind of flip-flopped his position on whether Bitcoin was a good or bad sort of technology.

I also wonder how much Steve Wozniak has actually used Bitcoin, I'd bet he's probably made a few transactions at the very least.
Because Gates is a government supporter, a rich snob that is afraid of depending on himself. He was always working closely with the government and has depended on it to protect his rights and his money. Now as an older man he's afraid of changes, of his fiat money losing value, of the power of the government weakening. People thought that smart people are pioneers, working for the better society and freedom. Unfortunately gates was working for himself, for better invigilation and control. Maybe that's why his company is so hated by the very people who once were his clients.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: funsponge on June 05, 2018, 07:10:00 PM
I'm glad that he's at least not changing his opinion about Bitcoin a whole lot, unlike some other people.
I think it was Bill Gates who kind of flip-flopped his position on whether Bitcoin was a good or bad sort of technology.

I also wonder how much Steve Wozniak has actually used Bitcoin, I'd bet he's probably made a few transactions at the very least.
Because Gates is a government supporter, a rich snob that is afraid of depending on himself. He was always working closely with the government and has depended on it to protect his rights and his money. Now as an older man he's afraid of changes, of his fiat money losing value, of the power of the government weakening. People thought that smart people are pioneers, working for the better society and freedom. Unfortunately gates was working for himself, for better invigilation and control. Maybe that's why his company is so hated by the very people who once were his clients.


I don't think this is a realistic opinion I do doubt very much that bill gates is worried at all about his fiat money losing value. He's one of the richest people in the world and at this point money is meaningless to him. What are you referring to when you said he's working close to the government? Sources?


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: 3acaga on June 05, 2018, 07:13:22 PM
Finally, the great news is that there are still adequately thinking and analyzing people such as STIV.Stev one of the few people who does not stand along with a global crowd of world financiers who want to destroy bitcoin ....


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: BitcoinNewbie15 on June 05, 2018, 07:28:30 PM
I'm glad that he's at least not changing his opinion about Bitcoin a whole lot, unlike some other people.
I think it was Bill Gates who kind of flip-flopped his position on whether Bitcoin was a good or bad sort of technology.

I also wonder how much Steve Wozniak has actually used Bitcoin, I'd bet he's probably made a few transactions at the very least.
Because Gates is a government supporter, a rich snob that is afraid of depending on himself. He was always working closely with the government and has depended on it to protect his rights and his money. Now as an older man he's afraid of changes, of his fiat money losing value, of the power of the government weakening. People thought that smart people are pioneers, working for the better society and freedom. Unfortunately gates was working for himself, for better invigilation and control. Maybe that's why his company is so hated by the very people who once were his clients.


I don't think this is a realistic opinion I do doubt very much that bill gates is worried at all about his fiat money losing value. He's one of the richest people in the world and at this point money is meaningless to him. What are you referring to when you said he's working close to the government? Sources?

Yeah, Bill Gates is not worried about anything. It's a joke to think that Billionaires who naysay Bitcoin feel threatened by it. They don't feel threatened, at least not yet. Once/if BTC starts gaining more traction for everyday purchases, then they may feel threatened. But right now, to these anti-BTC billionaires BTC is just a highly speculative cockroach.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: aoluain on June 05, 2018, 07:47:45 PM
I think this feeds into the idea that bitcoin js becoming more of an investment
commodity and a store of value... Like Gold.

Does that not conflict with what he thinks bitcoin will become

Speaking to CNBC at the ongoing Money20/20 conference in Amsterdam,
the veteran developer said he “bought into” comments from Twitter CEO
Jack Dorsey about Bitcoin becoming the “single currency” of both the internet
and the world.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: funsponge on June 05, 2018, 07:48:54 PM
Yeah, Bill Gates is not worried about anything. It's a joke to think that Billionaires who naysay Bitcoin feel threatened by it. They don't feel threatened, at least not yet. Once/if BTC starts gaining more traction for everyday purchases, then they may feel threatened. But right now, to these anti-BTC billionaires BTC is just a highly speculative cockroach.
Even then they could just convert their earnings into Bitcoin. If it ever came to Bitcoin rising and fiat currencies losing their value extremely quickly then they could get out at the first sign of this. These guys have financial advisors and who are analysing the market constantly. I think it's silly to assume these guys are concerned about anything related to money.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: tabas on June 05, 2018, 07:51:10 PM
There are only three questions come to my mind after checking this article:
- when 20k?
- when Moon?
- when Lambo?  ;D

These are the questions of the people who aren't really enjoying the knowledge with their bitcoin journey.
- No one knows when we'll be back at $20,000.
- This word is over used I guess.
- When you can avail it.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: HelenS on June 05, 2018, 08:06:18 PM
guess, it's not the only. It's the first and the most popular.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: HabBear on June 05, 2018, 08:07:59 PM
- when Lambo?  ;D

If you don't have this yet you need to buy more Bitcoin!

I like this article from the great and powerful Woz. It's nice to get the perspective of someone who has led or been at the front of technology innovation for 40 years. There's credibility that comes with his comments that can't come with most other interviewees.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: Al-e_x on June 05, 2018, 08:16:36 PM
yes, bitcoin is the pure digital gold. but bitcoin is really very valuable than gold, so in the future gold and bitcoin will only be a means of payment, fiat will lose popularity if not using the blockchain system.

no one can answer all your questions. it is about price speculation. and bitcoin difficult to predict. but the general answer of your question is bitcoin will be 20K, will to the moon, and will Lambo when supplies of bitcoin are rare and in high demand.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: funsponge on June 05, 2018, 08:47:23 PM
- when Lambo?  ;D

If you don't have this yet you need to buy more Bitcoin!

I like this article from the great and powerful Woz. It's nice to get the perspective of someone who has led or been at the front of technology innovation for 40 years. There's credibility that comes with his comments that can't come with most other interviewees.

He was successful in a very different field though. He was involved with developing personal computers but nothing with cryptocurrencies. He's no more qualified to speak about it than the economists that you see spouting their bullshit every day to manipulate the market.

He's got credibility but that doesn't really mean he knows what he's talking about in terms of cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: dothebeats on June 05, 2018, 08:50:34 PM
There are many reasons as to why bitcoin is the only digital gold, and good thing Steve Wozniak, unlike the others, realize that and banks into that. He's been bullish and positive about bitcoin for a long time now unlike Bill Gates and Jamie Dimon who retracted what they said good about the coin and sometimes giving negative remarks to it.  He (Steve) understands that bitcoin's flexibility to exist as an investment, hold value and as a currency is important as gold, or can be compared to gold. Sooner or later, everything, especially payments and money, would be embossed on our computer and mobile screens because we'd go fully digital, and bitcoin is the first full realization of it.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: jerjer on June 05, 2018, 08:59:50 PM
I agree. Many called Bitcoin as gold 3.0.  Bitcoin is like a gold that every year the value is rising up. The difference between bitcoin than gold is bitcoin is more profitable because of  its very limited supply with a very high demand. Also bitcoin is very volatile, this means huge profit for traders.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: Similificator on June 05, 2018, 10:04:22 PM
According to Cointelegraph: Steve Wozniak: Bitcoin Is ‘The Only Digital Gold’ (https://cointelegraph.com/news/steve-wozniak-bitcoin-is-the-only-digital-gold)

“Only Bitcoin is pure digital gold… and I totally buy into that. All the others tend to give up some of the aspects of Bitcoin. For example, being totally decentralized and having no central control. That's the first one they have to give up to try to have a business model.”

There are only three questions come to my mind after checking this article:
- when 20k?
- when Moon?
- when Lambo?  ;D



Lol, everybody really does want to know the answers to those three common questions haha..
But seriously though, I think that the guy named Steve Wozniak is right and does make complete sense. Centralization really might be the only way to promote mass adoption. But the thing is that to us crypto enthusiasts, decentralization is what makes bitcoin a pure digital gold. I really am curious how the future will unfold for this industry.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: avikz on June 05, 2018, 10:45:09 PM
According to Cointelegraph: Steve Wozniak: Bitcoin Is ‘The Only Digital Gold’ (https://cointelegraph.com/news/steve-wozniak-bitcoin-is-the-only-digital-gold)

“Only Bitcoin is pure digital gold… and I totally buy into that. All the others tend to give up some of the aspects of Bitcoin. For example, being totally decentralized and having no central control. That's the first one they have to give up to try to have a business model.”

I strongly belive in this point that Mr. Wozniak raised that, altcoins must give up chasing bitcoin and showing some aspects of bitcoin to create their own identity. Most of the altcoins try to copy bitcoin and remain as a failed one. Only altcoins with radically different structure are the successful ones. Also we can't really ignore the fact that bitcoin indeed shows some similar characteristics of gold. So saying bitcoin as a digital gold is not an exaggeration.

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There are only three questions come to my mind after checking this article:
- when 20k?
- when Moon?
- when Lambo?  ;D


Lol! We all are waiting for the answers!


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: funsponge on June 05, 2018, 10:47:36 PM
I agree. Many called Bitcoin as gold 3.0.  Bitcoin is like a gold that every year the value is rising up. The difference between bitcoin than gold is bitcoin is more profitable because of  its very limited supply with a very high demand. Also bitcoin is very volatile, this means huge profit for traders.

I'm not sure why Steve Wozniak even compared it to gold by labeling it as the "digital gold". Bitcoin is completely different to that of gold and is it's unique system that doesn't follow the fundamentals that determine golds value either. Yeah rarity plays a factor but there's so much more to Bitcoin like the Blockchain.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: rodel caling on June 05, 2018, 10:57:44 PM
According to Cointelegraph: Steve Wozniak: Bitcoin Is ‘The Only Digital Gold’ (https://cointelegraph.com/news/steve-wozniak-bitcoin-is-the-only-digital-gold)

“Only Bitcoin is pure digital gold… and I totally buy into that. All the others tend to give up some of the aspects of Bitcoin. For example, being totally decentralized and having no central control. That's the first one they have to give up to try to have a business model.”

There are only three questions come to my mind after checking this article:
- when 20k?
- when Moon?
- when Lambo?  ;D



Last year december 2017 almost reach 30k usd price value of bitcoin but sad to seen after three weeks bitcoin dump until january 2018 currently price is in the dip but hoping before of this year 20k usd 0r more that price reach of bitcoin.

do not worry still hope bitcoin going to moon again just stay calm and relax the price will goes again and bounce back until that amount you will wish.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: BitHodler on June 05, 2018, 11:08:55 PM
I strongly belive in this point that Mr. Wozniak raised that, altcoins must give up chasing bitcoin and showing some aspects of bitcoin to create their own identity.
I think we're past that stage already, at least from the technical aspects. People here are the only factor not having adapted to it yet, and I honestly don't know when they ever will.

They constantly fail to understand that Ethereum (to pick the largest altcoin) is not a Bitcoin competitor, and never has been. If it ever surpasses Bitcoin's market cap, it still doesn't mean anything.

Bitcoin's task is purely providing people the very basics of a currency, which it has done since the very beginning, where the rest of the altcoins have to fight for other parts of this industry.

People talk about Bitcoin's scaling issues, but Ethereum's scaling issues are way worse in various aspects. All the pressure from everything running on top of it starts to form an obstacle rather than progress.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: Silenox on June 05, 2018, 11:33:34 PM
Undoubtedly being digital gold is one of Bitcoin's greatest qualities, it walks a lot more to be treated as a commodity rather than a means of payment, and this is not a bad thing, it has everything to become the world's value reserve, and if this materializes the price goes very far.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: timerland on June 06, 2018, 12:45:26 AM
One of the biggest misconceptions/mistake right now that people are making in my opinion is investing in centralized or somewhat centralized cryptocurrencies, and think that they would be able to get the same benefits as bitcoin.

There are also crypto projects out there that are purely speculative tokens that address a non-existent issue.

Bitcoin would be the only long term crypto that I would hold, and I agree, it's somewhat like "Digital gold". The reason is that the network is actually decentralized, and it's all we need right now - none of the other fancy whitepapers we see on other crypto projects. Over the long run, I wouldn't be surprised to see that bitcoin holds its value significantly better than other speculative tokens that are circulating on the market right now, due to its decentralization, limited supply, and practical adoption.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: Barbarian on June 06, 2018, 01:41:43 AM
I think this feeds into the idea that bitcoin js becoming more of an investment
commodity and a store of value... Like Gold.

Does that not conflict with what he thinks bitcoin will become

Speaking to CNBC at the ongoing Money20/20 conference in Amsterdam,
the veteran developer said he “bought into” comments from Twitter CEO
Jack Dorsey about Bitcoin becoming the “single currency” of both the internet
and the world.

Gold was the currency of choice for thousands of years until governments found a way to deceive people and they found a way to contain it, governments are trying to do the same with bitcoin but they are not sure how they are going to do it and if they do not do it soon bitcoin will take its rightful place as a currency.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: VayneAurelius on June 06, 2018, 01:44:25 AM
According to Cointelegraph: Steve Wozniak: Bitcoin Is ‘The Only Digital Gold’ (https://cointelegraph.com/news/steve-wozniak-bitcoin-is-the-only-digital-gold)

“Only Bitcoin is pure digital gold… and I totally buy into that. All the others tend to give up some of the aspects of Bitcoin. For example, being totally decentralized and having no central control. That's the first one they have to give up to try to have a business model.”

There are only three questions come to my mind after checking this article:
- when 20k?
- when Moon?
- when Lambo?  ;D


Well you have a point. Maybe that was said just because of the 20,000 dollars made by the bitcoin last year. Maybe we can not say because it might be his opinion on what happens. We cannot say that his statement is wrong because other digital / cryptocurrencies are just lending or relying on bitcoin so that he says that bitcoin is pure digital gold. Well it is truly pure digital because we cannot see it nor touch it. We can only have it because of the exchangers that we have.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: Zin-Zang on June 06, 2018, 07:12:19 AM
According to Cointelegraph: Steve Wozniak: Bitcoin Is ‘The Only Digital Gold’ (https://cointelegraph.com/news/steve-wozniak-bitcoin-is-the-only-digital-gold)

“Only Bitcoin is pure digital gold… and I totally buy into that. All the others tend to give up some of the aspects of Bitcoin.
For example, being totally decentralized and having no central control. That's the first one they have to give up to try to have a business model.”


No offense to Steve,

Centralized control means the centralized Authority can censor or confiscate at their discretion.

https://www.investopedia.com/news/steve-wozniak-has-sold-his-bitcoin/
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Steve Wozniak Sold All His Bitcoin

That is not the actions of a man that truly believes in Bitcoin as a Store of Value.
That is the actions of a man cashing out because he made a profit and thinks it has reached it max.


If a Centralized Payment model is what he is looking for, maybe someone should email Steve a link to Paypal.com   :P

http://www.paypalwarning.com/paypal-stole-money/

Centralized Control gets you this: https://www.aclu.org/issues/criminal-law-reform/reforming-police-practices/asset-forfeiture-abuse
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Police abuse of civil asset forfeiture laws has shaken our nation’s conscience.
Civil forfeiture allows police to seize — and then keep or sell — any property they allege is involved in a crime.
Owners need not ever be arrested or convicted of a crime for their cash, cars, or even real estate to be taken away permanently by the government.

Forfeiture was originally presented as a way to cripple large-scale criminal enterprises by diverting their resources.
But today, aided by deeply flawed federal and state laws, many police departments use forfeiture to benefit their bottom lines, making seizures motivated by profit rather than crime-fighting.
For people whose property has been seized through civil asset forfeiture, legally regaining such property is notoriously difficult and expensive, with costs sometimes exceeding the value of the property.
With the total value of property seized increasing every year, calls for reform are growing louder, and CLRP is at the forefront of organizations seeking to rein in the practice


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: vv181 on June 06, 2018, 07:43:42 AM
Another person from technologies background acknowledges how promising and powerful Bitcoin is. I believe this will increase the certainty for mainstream in Bitcoin.
- when 20k?
- when Moon?
- when Lambo?  ;D
soon enough soon.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: elygil2022 on June 06, 2018, 08:13:49 AM
I agree with the co-founder of Apple, one the most successful companies in the history of the world. If oil is black gold, bitcoin is digital gold.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: jcarlo on June 06, 2018, 09:04:25 AM
Right now, many peoples already know about bitcoin and start to make analysis about it. Steve Wozniak is like master in technology and i think before he said that, he already doing research and make analysis on bitcoin


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: darkangel11 on June 06, 2018, 08:16:27 PM
I'm glad that he's at least not changing his opinion about Bitcoin a whole lot, unlike some other people.
I think it was Bill Gates who kind of flip-flopped his position on whether Bitcoin was a good or bad sort of technology.

I also wonder how much Steve Wozniak has actually used Bitcoin, I'd bet he's probably made a few transactions at the very least.
Because Gates is a government supporter, a rich snob that is afraid of depending on himself. He was always working closely with the government and has depended on it to protect his rights and his money. Now as an older man he's afraid of changes, of his fiat money losing value, of the power of the government weakening. People thought that smart people are pioneers, working for the better society and freedom. Unfortunately gates was working for himself, for better invigilation and control. Maybe that's why his company is so hated by the very people who once were his clients.


I don't think this is a realistic opinion I do doubt very much that bill gates is worried at all about his fiat money losing value. He's one of the richest people in the world and at this point money is meaningless to him. What are you referring to when you said he's working close to the government? Sources?

All software companies are implementing backdoors for the government. Do you think microsoft isn't spying on you and gathering data on your hardware and software? One of the nice things that they're doing is enabling updates without your consent and downloading spyware in the form of security updates. Another is sending error reports from your computer to microsoft that can include sensitive information. Sure, you have to click "sent" for that to happen, but how many people did that without even reading the message or thinking what it might do.

While Microsoft sells multiple versions of Windows 10 to both consumers and businesses, only Windows 10 Enterprise Edition features the option of prohibiting the transmission of data to Microsoft. Want your own Enterprise Edition of Windows 10? Well, a proper, activated version is only available if you’re activating it through Microsoft’s Volume Licensing program designed for businesses rather than nerdy consumers.
You can, however, test drive a version of Windows 10 Enterprise Edition if you have a Windows 10 Pro license on your PC. All you need is a KMS (key management service) setup key, which Microsoft provides for connecting client machines to KMS host machines run by companies.


As for the money argument, he basically said that if you aren't producing anything you're worthless. He's a rich snob that can't stand people who got rich by being smart and investing in something instead of working their assess off in a corporation for the benefit of a greedy boss.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: Aliya Taj on June 06, 2018, 08:31:33 PM
Bitcoin is the only digital gold, at least for now till a better currency comes up, it's still the most valuable coin there is out there in terms of price and controls the market when it comes to market cap, infact, most cryptocurrency prices depend on the Bitcoin value. When it's value is high, the value of the coins are high, when it's low, the values drop with it


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: bjmpoker001 on June 07, 2018, 02:37:44 AM
According to Cointelegraph: Steve Wozniak: Bitcoin Is ‘The Only Digital Gold’ (https://cointelegraph.com/news/steve-wozniak-bitcoin-is-the-only-digital-gold)

“Only Bitcoin is pure digital gold… and I totally buy into that. All the others tend to give up some of the aspects of Bitcoin. For example, being totally decentralized and having no central control. That's the first one they have to give up to try to have a business model.”

There are only three questions come to my mind after checking this article:
- when 20k?
- when Moon?
- when Lambo?  ;D


maybe he said that because bitcoin have a limited supply, and have expensive value, just like gold but in digital.
i already read that article in Cointelegraph. He said that he only hold 1 BTC and 2 ETH, i cant believe it. He must be holding a large amount of crypto.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: IndigoRed on June 08, 2018, 02:51:16 AM
“The only digital gold.” That would make a great ad slogan for bitcoin, if you ask me.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: juiceannabel on June 08, 2018, 06:38:56 AM
According to Cointelegraph: Steve Wozniak: Bitcoin Is ‘The Only Digital Gold’ (https://cointelegraph.com/news/steve-wozniak-bitcoin-is-the-only-digital-gold)

“Only Bitcoin is pure digital gold… and I totally buy into that. All the others tend to give up some of the aspects of Bitcoin. For example, being totally decentralized and having no central control. That's the first one they have to give up to try to have a business model.”

There are only three questions come to my mind after checking this article:
- when 20k?
- when Moon?
- when Lambo?  ;D


For steve to own bitcoin is not a new things. Apple should makes their own coin, there are many peoples will buy it, im sure of it.
bitcoin could be hit 20k in no time, just like last year. The price was not predicted to be increased like that.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: bitfocus on June 08, 2018, 06:41:05 AM
The Wizard is right, Bitcoin is going to take over :)


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: Thadeous on June 12, 2018, 04:52:55 PM
I'm glad that he's at least not changing his opinion about Bitcoin a whole lot, unlike some other people.
I think it was Bill Gates who kind of flip-flopped his position on whether Bitcoin was a good or bad sort of technology.

I also wonder how much Steve Wozniak has actually used Bitcoin, I'd bet he's probably made a few transactions at the very least.
Because Gates is a government supporter, a rich snob that is afraid of depending on himself. He was always working closely with the government and has depended on it to protect his rights and his money. Now as an older man he's afraid of changes, of his fiat money losing value, of the power of the government weakening. People thought that smart people are pioneers, working for the better society and freedom. Unfortunately gates was working for himself, for better invigilation and control. Maybe that's why his company is so hated by the very people who once were his clients.


I don't think this is a realistic opinion I do doubt very much that bill gates is worried at all about his fiat money losing value. He's one of the richest people in the world and at this point money is meaningless to him. What are you referring to when you said he's working close to the government? Sources?

All software companies are implementing backdoors for the government. Do you think microsoft isn't spying on you and gathering data on your hardware and software? One of the nice things that they're doing is enabling updates without your consent and downloading spyware in the form of security updates. Another is sending error reports from your computer to microsoft that can include sensitive information. Sure, you have to click "sent" for that to happen, but how many people did that without even reading the message or thinking what it might do.

While Microsoft sells multiple versions of Windows 10 to both consumers and businesses, only Windows 10 Enterprise Edition features the option of prohibiting the transmission of data to Microsoft. Want your own Enterprise Edition of Windows 10? Well, a proper, activated version is only available if you’re activating it through Microsoft’s Volume Licensing program designed for businesses rather than nerdy consumers.
You can, however, test drive a version of Windows 10 Enterprise Edition if you have a Windows 10 Pro license on your PC. All you need is a KMS (key management service) setup key, which Microsoft provides for connecting client machines to KMS host machines run by companies.


As for the money argument, he basically said that if you aren't producing anything you're worthless. He's a rich snob that can't stand people who got rich by being smart and investing in something instead of working their assess off in a corporation for the benefit of a greedy boss.

I can bet that major Software Players are already deeply involved into crypto market.
Imo, we are close to the point when Android, iOS and even Windows will include Bitcoin wallets integrated into the system.
Just imagine this mooning-rocket moment when Play Market and App Store will start accepting crypto. 8)



Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: Barbarian on June 14, 2018, 03:07:45 AM
“The only digital gold.” That would make a great ad slogan for bitcoin, if you ask me.
Unlike most slogans this is true bitcoin is the only digital gold, while there are many coins which are similar to bitcoin that does not make them the real thing, bitcoin is the equivalent of gold just in digital form and with many other characteristics that even makes it better than gold.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: Juggy777 on June 21, 2018, 01:08:28 PM
I call him the lone wolf in the industry who's really been fighting a lone battle for bitcoins it's a shame bitcoins don't get global fame yet but I truly agree with his point here that Bitcoins is digital gold and I'm glad he's chosen to speak his heart out and wonder if apple will accept crypto pay in iPhones that would be huge, or buy a iphone x with cryptos man I hope it comes true.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: debopam.chanda on June 22, 2018, 06:22:39 AM
I couldn't agree more. I think just like many who said Bitcoin as gold 3.0.  Bitcoin is like a gold that every year the value is rising up. The difference between bitcoin than gold is bitcoin is more profitable because of  its very limited supply with a very high demand. Also bitcoin is very volatile, this means huge profit for traders.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: efxtrader on June 22, 2018, 06:25:36 AM
With limited supply, bitcoin better than gold. For some peoples with traditional mindset, gold is better but we are now in digital world and bitcoin is more safe than gold as investment.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: shaadsufi on June 24, 2018, 09:43:58 PM
Steve Wozniak's opinion matters and is more relevant than the investing genius like Warren Buffett, he is a big fan of democracy which many intellectuals believe that international relations finance will be based on in the future, bitcoin  is a democratic currency whose value is decided by the people so it'll be a big hit.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: MiiDoViic on June 24, 2018, 10:16:02 PM
According to Cointelegraph: Steve Wozniak: Bitcoin Is ‘The Only Digital Gold’ (https://cointelegraph.com/news/steve-wozniak-bitcoin-is-the-only-digital-gold)

“Only Bitcoin is pure digital gold… and I totally buy into that. All the others tend to give up some of the aspects of Bitcoin. For example, being totally decentralized and having no central control. That's the first one they have to give up to try to have a business model.”

There are only three questions come to my mind after checking this article:
- when 20k?
- when Moon?
- when Lambo?  ;D

Bitcoin is the core and principle of the cryptocrrency , it has been that way and it will always be , BTC keeps proving that his dominance over the crypto market is inevitable . So yeah it's smarter to put most of ur investment in bitcoin and not the cointless shitcoins out there , yes they might pump like crazy but it' a total luck and you could get wrecked harder. BTC is the safest and greatest of them all.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: Barbarian on June 26, 2018, 08:38:49 PM
I call him the lone wolf in the industry who's really been fighting a lone battle for bitcoins it's a shame bitcoins don't get global fame yet but I truly agree with his point here that Bitcoins is digital gold and I'm glad he's chosen to speak his heart out and wonder if apple will accept crypto pay in iPhones that would be huge, or buy a iphone x with cryptos man I hope it comes true.
Most of the biggest investors are seeing that bitcoin is in fact the real deal and that they missed the chance to get them for very cheap so they are trying to slow down bitcoin adoption so their business do not get affected by it, but the Woz is just being honest something rare to find these days.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: criptoturk on June 26, 2018, 08:45:08 PM
I believe Steve wozniak is a very smart guy and genuine inventor. I totally agree his perception. Bitcoin has a very brillant and profitable future..


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: nikola22 on June 26, 2018, 08:53:19 PM
bitcoin is the first cryptocurrency and it has the right to be called digital gold because BTC is very attractive as an investment tool.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: mudasarali43 on July 12, 2018, 09:50:13 AM
For a rebel who has problems with misused authority from the start,  a financial system that does not depend on a central authority and decentralized in every way and more than that is impenetrable is gold, looking at its valuation of 6300 USD per coin approx and market valuation of 150 billion it can be literally called gold.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: xanaxxx on July 12, 2018, 09:55:24 AM
According to Cointelegraph: Steve Wozniak: Bitcoin Is ‘The Only Digital Gold’ (https://cointelegraph.com/news/steve-wozniak-bitcoin-is-the-only-digital-gold)

“Only Bitcoin is pure digital gold… and I totally buy into that. All the others tend to give up some of the aspects of Bitcoin. For example, being totally decentralized and having no central control. That's the first one they have to give up to try to have a business model.”

There are only three questions come to my mind after checking this article:
- when 20k?
- when Moon?
- when Lambo?  ;D


if these are the questions in your mind, I'm really sorry for you to have such a troubled mind, I'm sure there are professionals who can help you with that though, just go to seek a help


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: magneto on July 12, 2018, 10:14:13 AM
I'd completely agree with him.

Right now I can only see bitcoin becoming the actual currency that people would use as an alternative to fiat, because it doesn't try to do things that is outside of the scope of what a currency, or money itself, is supposed to do.

He's right, all the centralisation needed to create fancy blockchain projects or whatnot really defeats the entire purpose of cryptocurrencies in the first place. And with most of them only in the crypto scene for the investments that come in their way, I don't see longevity.

Bitcoin has by far the most community support, most adoption, most actual uses, best track record, and is the first ever cryptocurrency generating trust. If any crypto gets mass adopted in the long run, it's going to be bitcoin.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: Thadeous on July 12, 2018, 03:41:07 PM
According to Cointelegraph: Steve Wozniak: Bitcoin Is ‘The Only Digital Gold’ (https://cointelegraph.com/news/steve-wozniak-bitcoin-is-the-only-digital-gold)

“Only Bitcoin is pure digital gold… and I totally buy into that. All the others tend to give up some of the aspects of Bitcoin. For example, being totally decentralized and having no central control. That's the first one they have to give up to try to have a business model.”

There are only three questions come to my mind after checking this article:
- when 20k?
- when Moon?
- when Lambo?  ;D


if these are the questions in your mind, I'm really sorry for you to have such a troubled mind, I'm sure there are professionals who can help you with that though, just go to seek a help

That's a fairly trivial trolling. :)
You probably heard that "when Moon?", "when Lambo?" are well known memes.
I guess this memes well fit the bullish article attitude and the current bearish market state.

And as for thoughts on crypto that appear in my mind, I'm afraid there are no professionals that will help you to understand those. ;)


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: Simon241084 on July 15, 2018, 04:27:16 AM
I think it was Bill Gates, who turned his back on whether Bitcoin was a good or bad technology. What a legend, he is a very intelligent person. But like digital gold ... BOOM! I think the use of digital gold is the future of Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: gaxfrwpy on July 15, 2018, 04:35:44 AM
I agree with Steve Wozniaks that bitcoin is likely to be a better investment than gold. Because of the characteristics of bitcoin, it is very true that it is digital gold, and in the future there will be more people like it and invest it.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: Catch-22 on July 15, 2018, 10:53:23 AM
That’s wisdom from the co-founder of Apple, one of the most valuable companies in the history of the world. Bitcoin is indeed the gold standard, figuratively speaking.  :D


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: TimesVeronica on July 16, 2018, 09:06:03 AM
The latest and greatest designs with this high tp are much simpler to focus on, but of course most people do not seem to realize that they are losing more than they achieve. I think it was Bill Gates, who turned his back on whether Bitcoin was a good or bad technology.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: btc78 on July 16, 2018, 09:21:10 AM
wozniak is a genuine inventor not like a copy cat like gates

Agreed on this,wozniak has its own passion and skills so talking bout this is more reliable than billgates whos no permanent stands about cryptocurrency specially bitcoin,though I understand because hes a businessman and ofcourde will come first for his interests before others

But thanks to wozniak for giving us positive outlook since many are now in despair when looking at the market movement


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: jennyhoang293 on July 17, 2018, 10:52:29 AM
What a legend, he is a very intelligent person. But like digital gold. I think the use of digital gold is the future of Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: Thadeous on August 23, 2018, 05:21:45 PM
What a legend, he is a very intelligent person. But like digital gold. I think the use of digital gold is the future of Bitcoin.

I'm sure that Steve is intelligent enough to hold a certain amount of crypto and I'm sure he has his own long term view on the future of the crypto world.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: coolcoinz on October 09, 2018, 12:34:52 PM
I call him the lone wolf in the industry who's really been fighting a lone battle for bitcoins it's a shame bitcoins don't get global fame yet but I truly agree with his point here that Bitcoins is digital gold and I'm glad he's chosen to speak his heart out and wonder if apple will accept crypto pay in iPhones that would be huge, or buy a iphone x with cryptos man I hope it comes true.

Bitcoin is still too young. The history of great inventions show us that the first 20 years are usually very rough. The Internet was being ridiculed and computers treated as something too expensive for the average household. We had the era where people who rode fist automobiles were treated like weirdos riding noisy and chariots that left smoke behind. Who would want that? :D


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: LeetPoolsOP on October 09, 2018, 12:50:27 PM
Indeed, bitcoin is currently most commonly used as a long-term investment. And he's really good at that. Many altcoins are more useful than bitcoin.


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: entar pasar on October 09, 2018, 12:55:59 PM
According to Cointelegraph: Steve Wozniak: Bitcoin Is ‘The Only Digital Gold’ (https://cointelegraph.com/news/steve-wozniak-bitcoin-is-the-only-digital-gold)

“Only Bitcoin is pure digital gold… and I totally buy into that. All the others tend to give up some of the aspects of Bitcoin. For example, being totally decentralized and having no central control. That's the first one they have to give up to try to have a business model.”

There are only three questions come to my mind after checking this article:
- when 20k?
- when Moon?
- when Lambo?  ;D

basically bitcoin was created to fix the transaction system and bitcoin is used as a transaction tool like money, but because of the limited amount of bitcoin, the view of bitcoin turns into investment instrument like gold


Title: Re: Steve Wozniak claims Bitcoin ‘The Only Digital Gold’.
Post by: PlusOne88 on October 09, 2018, 01:05:06 PM
Well he was right about it. Other coins were made to have business as the main focus. Of course this is expected as nobody would want to follow what was already been the main function of the other. It is hard to just imitate what was already there strong and significant. In business this is what they call us innovation. So I would agree on Mr. Steve nobody among the coins will ever be the same as bitcoin and it will always be hard to topple it down if it should lose it will be the hardest to fall. As to the rise of bitcoin it might the took sometime to recover as many people are leaving during the fall of the market. But I am certain it surely rise back in the future though the specific time may not be immediate and would be unpredictable.