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Title: Help recognizing / tracking a bitcoin address
Post by: GG87 on June 04, 2018, 10:49:13 PM
Hi guys, do you have any idea of what kind of address is this?

https://blockchain.info/address/1LV8YwGzxi1bHjMVhvG5Z8gCNsCqyVs3L1


all the incoming transactions are automatically transferred to another address ( that should be the bitfinex hot wallet )

is it a wallet address, an exchange address or what?  ???


thanks  :)


Title: Re: Help recognizing / tracking a bitcoin address
Post by: bitmover on June 05, 2018, 12:26:38 AM
Hi guys, do you have any idea of what kind of address is this?

https://blockchain.info/address/1LV8YwGzxi1bHjMVhvG5Z8gCNsCqyVs3L1


all the incoming transactions are automatically transferred to another address ( that should be the bitfinex hot wallet )

is it a wallet address, an exchange address or what?  ???


thanks  :)


Are you sure it is bitfinex?

I think that's weird because some destination addresses are segwit and some are legacy.
It looks like a legacy address running some kind of script to redirect transfers.

Maybe it is a coinmix?


Title: Re: Help recognizing / tracking a bitcoin address
Post by: GG87 on June 05, 2018, 10:41:21 AM

Are you sure it is bitfinex?

I think that's weird because some destination addresses are segwit and some are legacy.
It looks like a legacy address running some kind of script to redirect transfers.

Maybe it is a coinmix?


Thanks mate,

i didn't get it was a mixer, you're probably right


so this is the address used by the mixer and not a personal address, correct?

A guy is asking me to send a payment directly on this address,
how the mixer associate the transaction to his destination address?


i also noticed this address in ANY outgoing transaction
1Kr6QSydW9bFQG1mXiPNNu6WpJGmUa9i1g


 :-\ :-\ ??? ???



Title: Re: Help recognizing / tracking a bitcoin address
Post by: bitmover on June 05, 2018, 10:49:32 AM

Are you sure it is bitfinex?

I think that's weird because some destination addresses are segwit and some are legacy.
It looks like a legacy address running some kind of script to redirect transfers.

Maybe it is a coinmix?


Thanks mate,

i didn't get it was a mixer, you're probably right


so this is the address used by the mixer and not a personal address, correct?

A guy is asking me to send a payment directly on this address,
how the mixer associate the transaction to his destination address?


i also noticed this address in ANY outgoing transaction
1Kr6QSydW9bFQG1mXiPNNu6WpJGmUa9i1g


 :-\ :-\ ??? ???



There are coinmixers like bitcloak which allows a user to pay anonymously using it.

You tell the mixer the destination address and you deposit your coin in their address. Take a look.

https://bitcloak43blmhmn.com/pay/9sk2d2ddaaS#pay


Title: Re: Help recognizing / tracking a bitcoin address
Post by: GG87 on June 05, 2018, 11:30:52 AM

There are coinmixers like bitcloak which allows a user to pay anonymously using it.

You tell the mixer the destination address and you deposit your coin in their address. Take a look.

https://bitcloak43blmhmn.com/pay/9sk2d2ddaaS#pay


BitCloak is giving me a virgin bitcoin address to send payment.

the other one is giving me an address with thousands transactions ( not even asking an exact amount )...
i really don't understand how it recognizes my payment

so weird


Title: Re: Help recognizing / tracking a bitcoin address
Post by: Tankdestroyer on June 08, 2018, 08:30:50 AM
the other one is giving me an address with thousands transactions ( not even asking an exact amount )...
i really don't understand how it recognizes my payment
It is very likely that the address they are giving you with thousands of transaction is only given to you(by the time they have given it to you) and past transactions in it are already settled. When they see a recent transaction with that address, they assume that you are the one sending it(because past customers that might have sent a payment to that address would not send them bitcoins again) and sends your bitcoins after confirmation.


Title: Re: Help recognizing / tracking a bitcoin address
Post by: mocacinno on June 08, 2018, 08:38:19 AM
This address is part of a wallet that contains allmost 7000 addresses that were funded in the past:
https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/00000ff1c2221976/addresses

If you find a valid hit on one of these 6798 addresses using google, you'll know the real owner of said address  :)

EDIT: it's probably bitfinex's hotwallet, at least, that's what a very quick google search told me (didn't investigate toroughly tough)


Title: Re: Help recognizing / tracking a bitcoin address
Post by: GG87 on June 08, 2018, 10:29:12 AM


Thank you all guys for the help.

Mocacinno, do you think it's used directly by the bitfinex owner.. or  it is a normal user account on bitfinex?

it looks like an internal mixer used by the bitfinex owner  :-\


Title: Re: Help recognizing / tracking a bitcoin address
Post by: bob123 on June 08, 2018, 10:50:24 AM
Mocacinno, do you think it's used directly by the bitfinex owner.. or  it is a normal user account on bitfinex?

I am not Mocacinno (even tho i love drinking them), but i am still going to answer your question  :)


Each address owned by bitfinex is 'directly' owned by bitfinex. They just provide their address to a user to deposit to.

It (most probably) is a deposit address, since the concept of a 'mixing address' is unnecessary. It doesn't bring any benefits, just more TX's -> More fees.

The withdrawals from this address about 10-60 minute after deposits do also indicate that it is a 'deposit' address (which is being used to withdraw other customer).


Title: Re: Help recognizing / tracking a bitcoin address
Post by: GG87 on June 08, 2018, 11:16:49 AM

Thanks Bob,

what do you mean for deposit address?

my personal bitfinex deposit address works quite diffently...  

this one doesn't look like a "normal customer" deposit address


Title: Re: Help recognizing / tracking a bitcoin address
Post by: mocacinno on June 08, 2018, 11:24:45 AM

Thanks Bob,

what do you mean for deposit address?

my personal bitfinex deposit address works quite diffently...  

this one doesn't look like a "normal customer" deposit address

It's probably just an internal address... It's normal for exchanges to move funds around between wallets, create change addresses, combine many unspent outputs into one to minimise fees, store BTC in a cold wallet, retrieve BTC from cold wallets,... It's probably not a customer's deposit address since it received ~1400 BTC in ~1600 tx's.
In reality, it doesn't matter why bitfinex chose to use this address, they'll probably have their reason (technical, emotional, practical, security, minimising fees,...), however i doubt you'll ever know the exact purpose of this address without asking bitfinex directly.