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Everyday I see a lot of complaints about cheating concerning bounty campaigns.

The rules edict by the BM always remind that - obviously - cheating is forbidden (multiaccounts, bot, etc..).

But when I see the quantity of work and organization necessary to do things "legally" I find it hard to imagine that it is so interesting to cheat by multiplying false accounts for
(And it must be very visible)

Would it be possible to get Bounty manager's testimony on this subject?

Due to numbers of participants on each program checking out every entry would really be time consuming even though we do see always the common rule that cheating or multi-accounting is prohibited but still there are cheaters who would able to penetrate such rule and end up giving out a stake and get free tokens easily without doing any hardwork. Detecting or filtering it out would really be hard by the manager alone so thats why we would really thank up for concern individuals who do help up to catching up those cheaters.I guess this issue cant really be easily resolved.

I’m not a bounty manager and that’s obvious, but this is already an open secret in bounties section. The fact that bounty campaigns will pay generously, abusing it will give a great fortune for anyone. Think about it, profiting 1000x token with one account multiplied by 4 account or more that’s big money depends on the outcome of that project.
It is a norm that needs to be stopped and be addressed, but it’s hard when the participants is so many that can’t handle by just one single manager. That’s why, each member has the responsibility to help to get rid of this campaign abuser and report if you encounter one.

Most of the bounties don't care about quality of the project all they want is much quality exposure so never take time to find the bot or altaccounts but there were many DT members finding and giving negative trust to them will make controllable for now.

I guess this issue cannot be easily resolved as the more you try, the more complicated it become as many people are after the reward and wants to make fortune by any mean possible so they join a campaign with multiple account and earn more from the campaign than people who are sincere with their account and this is quite unfair. Bounty managers should take time to analyze participants buy bring up ideas to reduce multiple entry in the community.

it is true that many use multiple accounts and it is detrimental to some aspects of the following bounty manager bounty and ICO itself I hope all manager bounty more thoroughly again fake account.

Do not worry about those cheater, soon or later those all will be caught by some people who detect them. It would be better if manager also report any of suspicious accounts which they think are alts.

It is hard to find the altaccounts but now there are many smart scammers who users other users account to register and getting some tokens so they need to find a way to restrict them to save their project.

Well people are trying to earn money any possible way. And we cannot blame them for that. We don't know their situation, but I agree that this is not fair. Anyway if a person making fair double work, I sometimes think that why not? If a person has 2 accounts and making 50 - 100 comments each week. Isn't it hard work? And imagine that the campaign wan't profitable.

the problem is that they don't get a proper manager with experience to do the job properly, they give it to the cheapest one or they do it themselves in the easiest way possible which opens up way for a lot of cheaters to come in an abuse the system.
otherwise saying "there are a lot of participants and it is time  consuming" is just an excuse. the managers are getting paid to do this job properly.

I suppose the hassle of creating many accounts and it seems even the hassle of doing Photoshop for fake verification documents is worth it for 1 or 2 guys. They go through the pains of doing it for 1 time and they reap the rewards multiple times. I know most of them generally just take on any bounty they can but think about it. Even if all they get is $5 for each RT or share to thousands of (also fake) followers, they just need 10 programs to join to get $50. 10 accounts to get $500. The work is probably all automated already too. $500 per week even as a low estimate is amazing returns. I don't wonder why it happens.

It has been a social epidemic on the forum here but there should not be any excuse not to do the right think because the day you are caught in immorality, no matter the right that has been done before would be the saving grace because people tend to forget good deeds easily. For the cheating, I still put more blame on the managers because they are not doing their jobs the way they should and they should stop having unlimited number of people to participate this makes monitoring difficult to do and cheating inevitable.

This is actually truth only bro. There are many people looking to invest on the ICO projects and some are making tokens via bounty campaigns but mostly ICO projects not getting proper as they expected in the market. So first they need to understand what will be gonna happen next.
Then you need to check the manager and white paper of the team first before you go to invest on any ICO campaigns. Since many people missing that only we are seeing that kind of scam in the market.

I guess so, well it can be the participants or the bounty manager and i think no one could deal with it. At least, KYC can be used to minimalize this.

cheating is always happening, a lot of greedy people who want to get rich quick and crash into forum rules or rules of the campaign itself. it seems very difficult to eradicate the cheating that occurred in the campaign, because I see this cheating just as the parasite continues to grow.

I do not think that KYC here to help. I am an experienced hunter and for my experience I received payments from only 50 projects, and I passed about 600. Conclusion now there is no punishment for this type of fraud, so no one is afraid

WoW! 600 projects! Awesome
With your experiences, what lessons should be learned?

By the way, I still assume that KYC will multiply.

Between the different tax regulations and the money in the game, this seems inevitable to me.

That is true, since there are a lots of way to cheat from form. Should I state it here or not cause it could entice some other members to do and try it on their own. And I don't having KYC program in the project won't really help at all cause it could be cheated as well by taking someone's Identity. Cheaters always going to cheat and that's inevitable.

I agree with your suggestion because a it will be very stressful for the bounty manager to start check for this and it will also be time consuming but if bounty hunters can be sincere and help in fighting this, I think the KYC suggestion should be able to help solve this issue and reduce the rate of multiple account in bounty so that many people will be able to participate and also gain from bounties.

Bounty programs need lot of patience  and overall market should respond for price growth then only we can expect a good amount of returns last year bounty programs earned good

Cheaters will be around each section when money has presence. Cheating even looks like a normal thing in a real world and with technology virtual world is the new victim. New I mean a decade ago not like a hundred of centuries in earth. I’ve wanted to report a lot of them, but without a proof my guess won’t be counted as evidence. So I leave it to all DT-members and techno savvy members for doing what is right and justice for all.

At time like this there should be a that check of bounty participant because it is lot of cheating that can be said to harm other parties and just start following bounty and newbie like me

Bounty campaigns are meant to promote the project in various places so we cannot consider all the project are unworthy it is upon the project owner decision to take the project forward or scam you. You need to ready for accepting all the things.
Some of the bounties will be helpful to you and manager support you but some of project will damage the name of manager and leave the bounty without the payment for the manager and participants both. In that case we cannot do anything.

The current fraudulent ICO campaigns on the market are few, and mainly potential ICO projects are not high. Therefore the ICO selection for the bounty is the most important. If you do not have experience should refer to everyone on the forum to be able to receive the most objective opinion.

let's help the bounty manager by reporting the multiaccount owners and cheating actors when found, so the bounty project gets the trust of ico developers so bounty can be generated

While I'm not a bounty manager, I've learned from my experience that there are several types of bounty manager. Some are really strict and removing cheater from the campaign. These also pay attention to the quality of the post or other things. But there are also other managers who do not care about the quality of the post and these also accept shit post like weekly bounty reports. They also do not care if cheaters participate in the campaign or not. If attentive users would not point out these cheaters, the cheaters would not be removed. Sometimes you can see the cheaters in the spreadsheet very obviously, but the managers ignore them. These managers just want to do the work as fast as possible and collect their salary. These managers harm the project, what they represent, I think.
For cheaters, it is interesting to farm with many accounts a campaign. Especially if shit post are allowed and they do not earn money otherwise. With 30 or more accounts, it pays off for smaller amounts. They just make money with the mass of accounts.  :o

your question is good my friend likes it. but if you ask how to cheat bounty, to my knowledge the cheating participants in following the bounty program will be disqualified in the project program because a lot of investors now use checking auto attendant. so if one of the participants there are cheats / cunning in their bounty it will be disqualified automatically. Is not it.

I agree with the OP.
I want this too.

Recently, I've seen a topic in Reputation board (http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4599728.0) regarding an abuse on a bounty campaign.  
It was a confirmed cheating by using the victim's bctalk account to claim for a twitter bounty.

Later on, I decided to find out if someone had already used my name too. I was surprised, Yes, I'm also a victim.
I didn't know that I've already joined a lot of campaigns which in reality is, "I seriously don't have any clue about it".
This is unacceptable.

I suggest for others as well to check your account search result on google to find out if you've been cheated.
Let's report these guys and end this abusive act all at once.

I think even KYC process will also won't solve this problem as their are so many fake I'd are their that can be used for it. You can see that so many users are giving their I'd for other to clear their KYC process.

When I read some thread about others using other profile accounts just to join bounties, I check if someone use mine and its confirmed, there are some who are using my account and I bet it would be newbies who can't join the campaigns. They use other profile because they are not required to post a proof of authentication when registering to the campaign and just in the form so it has a higher tendency of cheating. Bounty managers should strictly implement this one because many are abusing it just registering in the form.

Some bounty managers like btcltcdigger is using this strategy to prevent those cheaters. There are times too when I want to join a campaign and discovered that someone already registered using my profile. There are just so many cheaters and we should help each other to caught those people.

One of those people is you, you have a fake account to join the bounty

In the past, the bounty managers were less likely to work, there were not many participants, but the number of participating members and the deceptive projects increased

Due to numbers of participants on each program checking out every entry would really be time consuming even though we do see always the common rule that cheating or multi-accounting is prohibited but still there are cheaters who would able to penetrate such rule and end up giving out a stake and get free tokens easily without doing any hardwork. Detecting or filtering it out would really be hard by the manager alone so thats why we would really thank up for concern individuals who do help up to catching up those cheaters.I guess this issue cant really be easily resolved.
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Yes, I agree with you that it will not be easy for bounty managers to be able to monitor this as there are too many participants and they also have lot of work to do for but I believe if bounties can set a limit for the number of participants have an app that will be use to monitor the participants that register so that the rate of having multiple accounts in a particular bounty will be reduced, I believe it will reduce the rate of cheating.

it’s hard when the participants is so many that one manager can’t handle.Cheating is always happening. People are trying to get money as much as possible. I hope all manager have some solutions about it.

It is not difficult to see why, if you take into consideration the bounties that these people have been collecting versus the returns. To you and to me, $1 for a stupid bounty is not worth it. And all the trouble people take to create accounts, create fake traffic, fake views, fake everything seems too troublesome.

But let us take a simple example. I can make 10 accounts in 1 day, and if every day I make 1 stupid post for each account, and keep following people every day, within 60 days, it means I have 10 accounts old enough to earn the smallest bounty on Twitter and FB, and Steemit, let us say only $1 each for $10 per project.

Over time, remember this means even more value. 10 projects in 1 week is not impossible. That becomes $10 per week after 2 months. After 3 months or 6 months, this $1 becomes $2 becomes $5 becomes $200 per week. So 6 months investment for more income than salaries in many countries for stupid reposting work.

And if they want to invest, they can even shortcut this and buy accounts and views. Look at some bounties I see people earning $100s for reposting and Retweeting!