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Title: Moonco.in taken over by immigration and customs? Post by: joulesbeef on September 15, 2011, 07:05:10 PM if you try to go to https://moonco.in right now, you get an invalid server cert warning. Look at the cert it has. belongs to ice.gov
immigration and customs enforcement. and incase you missed it, ICE also handles things like off shore poker as well as copyrightinfringement. Title: Re: Moonco.in taken over by immigration and customs? Post by: evoorhees on September 15, 2011, 07:59:47 PM You should post this in the main forum.
Title: Re: Moonco.in taken over by immigration and customs? Post by: Cosbycoin on September 15, 2011, 08:00:47 PM Wow. Anyone holding solidcoins, namecoins, or bitcoins likely will lose them if this is all true.
Title: Re: Moonco.in taken over by immigration and customs? Post by: gw4tt on September 15, 2011, 08:11:05 PM hmm maybe ICE is going to start seizing all bitcoin gambling sites. Doesn't really seem right though since in some countries internet gambling is legal.
Maybe the sites just need to make an effort to verify people using it aren't from the US? Title: Re: Moonco.in taken over by immigration and customs? Post by: MrWizard on September 15, 2011, 08:17:47 PM hmm maybe ICE is going to start seizing all bitcoin gambling sites. Doesn't really seem right though since in some countries internet gambling is legal. moonco.in was based in the USA.Maybe the sites just need to make an effort to verify people using it aren't from the US? Title: Re: Moonco.in taken over by immigration and customs? Post by: Isepick on September 15, 2011, 08:18:20 PM It is precisely for this reason that Namecoin exists.
And I hope nobody based in the U.S. used their real emails/IPs there... Title: Re: Moonco.in taken over by immigration and customs? Post by: joulesbeef on September 15, 2011, 08:27:26 PM reposted to bitcoin discussions. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=44244.msg527745#msg527745)
Title: Re: Moonco.in taken over by immigration and customs? Post by: Lolcust on September 15, 2011, 08:33:48 PM hmm maybe ICE is going to start seizing all bitcoin gambling sites. Doesn't really seem right though since in some countries internet gambling is legal. moonco.in was based in the USA.Maybe the sites just need to make an effort to verify people using it aren't from the US? Why would any sane person start an online gamblish affair in USA ? What next, register a newspaper in Belarus ? Title: Re: Moonco.in taken over by immigration and customs? Post by: joulesbeef on September 15, 2011, 09:03:59 PM Lolcust ,not sure I guess he might have felt safe because US dollars never changed hands on his site.
But if all poker sites had to do was put the buying of chips on another domain, they would have done it already His gmail is down as well.. which is odd Title: Re: Moonco.in taken over by immigration and customs? Post by: johnj on September 15, 2011, 09:06:39 PM If you whois he IP of his site, it says it is owned by ice.gov Shows Akamai for me. http://dnstools.com/?count=1&arin=on&portNum=80&target=moonco.in&submit=Go%21 Is the guy just redirecting to an ICE thing? IE: Delete accounts, take money, redirect site to ICE, profit. Title: Re: Moonco.in taken over by immigration and customs? Post by: joulesbeef on September 15, 2011, 09:42:13 PM If you whois he IP of his site, it says it is owned by ice.gov Shows Akamai for me. http://dnstools.com/?count=1&arin=on&portNum=80&target=moonco.in&submit=Go%21 Is the guy just redirecting to an ICE thing? IE: Delete accounts, take money, redirect site to ICE, profit. that is a possibility we cant discount at the moment. I dont see our government turning off his gmail and deleting his reddit, not so quickly and why? wouldnt they want the emails to keep coming in? It would also be odd for ice to really care that much and normally they put up the shield and not just a ice cert. But I will say what I have seen of the man, he seemed like a good guy. I know one guy accidently sent a bunch of coins to his donate addy and mr_moon sent them back pretty promptly. he is also quick to help anyone with is site and seemed genuinely excited about making his site better. Still cant say people dont change and most con artists are good guys until they arent. Title: Re: Moonco.in taken over by immigration and customs? Post by: Splirow on September 16, 2011, 06:42:32 PM Hey guys....
I had deposited 34BTC on moonco for trading. The address that was given to me for the deposit was: 1B6egk2RjiHRnZKjj7aoT89ZtqiQCEQrhL as you can track on block explorer all the way, he moved them multiple times. Look like he had a total of 896 Bitcoins. maybe more. Is there any way to get this back? or are am I screwed? any info will be helpful Title: Re: Moonco.in taken over by immigration and customs? Post by: johnj on September 16, 2011, 06:46:52 PM Hey guys.... I had deposited 34BTC on moonco for trading. The address that was given to me for the deposit was: 1B6egk2RjiHRnZKjj7aoT89ZtqiQCEQrhL as you can track on block explorer all the way, he moved them multiple times. Look like he had a total of 896 Bitcoins. maybe more. Is there any way to get this back? or are am I screwed? any info will be helpful Screwed, unless he comes forward/caught with the wallet. Title: Re: Moonco.in taken over by immigration and customs? Post by: joulesbeef on September 17, 2011, 08:51:33 PM he claims it was hackers who got all of his passwords and erased all of his shit.
There really at this point isnt a way to prove it either way. he could have been a scammer or it could have been hackers. But I will say he was under constant attack lately by childish people who were pissed that he was running a solidcoin exchange. He had exactly shit to do with solidcoin and yet some childish people decided to attack an innocent person in their zeal to get back at coinhunter. This board has become a dump in the past few months. There is bitcoinforums.net if you want a place that is a bit more mature and has a bit less trolls. Title: Re: Moonco.in taken over by immigration and customs? Post by: Cosbycoin on September 17, 2011, 09:03:38 PM he claims it was hackers who got all of his passwords and erased all of his shit. There really at this point isnt a way to prove it either way. he could have been a scammer or it could have been hackers. But I will say he was under constant attack lately by childish people who were pissed that he was running a solidcoin exchange. He had exactly shit to do with solidcoin and yet some childish people decided to attack an innocent person in their zeal to get back at coinhunter. This board has become a dump in the past few months. There is bitcoinforums.net if you want a place that is a bit more mature and has a bit less trolls. Okay how about you stop spreading crap and wait for the facts to surface huh? Or is my way of giving facts by waiting for things to transpire and listing them not "factual" enough for you? Title: Re: Moonco.in taken over by immigration and customs? Post by: Lolcust on September 17, 2011, 09:09:01 PM So, first power outage, then hackers ?
Was there, by chance, any weird semitranslucent figures involved ? Or dudes in long leather trenchcoats who wear sunglasses at night ? Title: Re: Moonco.in taken over by immigration and customs? Post by: Artamir on September 18, 2011, 01:42:40 PM To the power outage, i can remember having heared something about a power outage in the news for that region. Not sure it it was same time or few days bevor, but could match.
To those claiming he just took the BTC and went along. Please take into consideration the amount of BTC/SC traded on his site every day. With the fee of 0.2 or 0.4% for each transaction, he might over time have made a lot more BTC then by just taking the BTCs in his exchange at this early time. So from my point of few just taking the BTC and scam all for the profit doesn't seem very likely. But maybe i overestimate the number of transactions done on his site every day and underestimate the BTC realy been transfered there. Title: Re: Moonco.in taken over by immigration and customs? Post by: johnj on September 18, 2011, 01:49:21 PM To the power outage, i can remember having heared something about a power outage in the news for that region. Not sure it it was same time or few days bevor, but could match. To those claiming he just took the BTC and went along. Please take into consideration the amount of BTC/SC traded on his site every day. With the fee of 0.2 or 0.4% for each transaction, he might over time have made a lot more BTC then by just taking the BTCs in his exchange at this early time. So from my point of few just taking the BTC and scam all for the profit doesn't seem very likely. But maybe i overestimate the number of transactions done on his site every day and underestimate the BTC realy been transfered there. I *think* he was at ~200k in SC volume before it went down. Some people have reported having over 100 BTC in a single account. Title: Re: Moonco.in taken over by immigration and customs? Post by: worldinacoin on September 18, 2011, 01:54:52 PM I used moonco.in for a while but I managed to transfer what little I have away before the second and permanent downtime. I won't comment on the customs/cheating/abducted by aliens etc. But I would say that a site in the USA having such a lot of gambling facilities is asking to be closed. I would doubt it is about any p2p currencies.
Title: Re: Moonco.in taken over by immigration and customs? Post by: Minsc on September 20, 2011, 02:59:40 AM I'm pretty sure it's a hoax. The site owner is trying to pretend the feds have your coins now instead of him.
Title: Re: Moonco.in taken over by immigration and customs? Post by: Chucksta on September 20, 2011, 07:02:16 AM It would be best if it is a government organisation that has taken this site down. If so then they should see the coins returned to their owners, but then again I don't know how the law lies with cryptocurrency.
I know when they took down all those online Gambling sites, the money was returned. Of course most of the sites weren't completely dead, in fact I think only one went down for good, and that was because it was solely based in the USA. Perhaps someone should contact this government organisation and see if this is true, and whether or not people can get their coins back. If a considerable amount has been lost, I am sure the newspapers would be interested in this. Title: Re: Moonco.in taken over by immigration and customs? Post by: Minsc on September 20, 2011, 07:28:48 AM moonco.in [184.86.115.26]
I have a comcast IP and I did a tracert. It did not leave comcast and then went to 5 14 ms 15 ms 14 ms pos-0-0-0-0-pe01.529bryant.ca.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.86.122] 6 15 ms 16 ms 16 ms a184-86-115-26.deploy.akamaitechnologies.com [184.86.115.26] Then https://www.dan.me.uk/ipinfo?ip=184.86.115.26 Quote Output from IPInfo tool: % % IPInfo - IP Information Service % Copyright(c) 2008-2011, Daniel Austin MBCS % % Hello, 2a00:1b98:da:3:21e:bff:fec7:87a, pleased to meet you. % % Fetching IP Information for '184.86.115.26'... Status: OK Cache-Age: 0 IP: 184.86.115.26 IP-Version: 4 TOR-Node: NAK Origin-AS: 7922 Origin-ISP: COMCAST-7922 IP-Prefix: 184.86.112.0/22 IP-NetName: NET184 IP-Description: American Registry for Internet Numbers,Chantilly,VA IP-Country-ISO: US IP-Country: United States IP-Region: Massachusetts IP-City: Cambridge IP-Postal-Code: 02142 IP-Locality: Boston, MA IP-Area-Code: 617 GPS-Location: 42.362598 -71.084297 % You have made 2 out of 24 allowed queries in the last 24 hours. % Took 1.15 secs for data lookup(s) If the feds took the site over, it would not have an IP from the guy's comcast account. You have been had. He still has your money. Title: Re: Moonco.in taken over by immigration and customs? Post by: kjlimo on September 21, 2011, 04:16:18 AM This really makes me sad. I really enjoyed the gambling site he had setup...
That and it's just another dagger in a dying solidcoin, which I really was behind... oh well... back to mining bitcoins for slow steady profit... Title: Re: Moonco.in taken over by immigration and customs? Post by: Minsc on September 21, 2011, 05:14:47 AM kjlimo,
I think they redid solidcoins so it's CPU mining only to make mining less gamable by lots of GPUs chained together. Title: Re: Moonco.in taken over by immigration and customs? Post by: Nagle on September 21, 2011, 05:34:31 AM If the feds took the site over, it would not have an IP from the guy's comcast account. You have been had. Agreed. I've seen sites where the U.S. Goverment has taken over the domain. They do that by sending a court order to the registrar, and a Goverment agency then shows as the domain owner. That didn't happen here; WHOIS shows the same guy owning the domain, with his bogus registrant address. DNS service is provided by DNSEXIT, which is a "dynamic DNS" service. It's been told to redirect the domain to a Akamai IP address used by "www.ice.gov". That doesn't require any cooperation from Akamai or ICE; you can do that for any domain. Since the domain and SSL cert don't match, you get an SSL cert error. Title: Re: Moonco.in taken over by immigration and customs? Post by: kjlimo on September 22, 2011, 07:57:46 AM kjlimo, I think they redid solidcoins so it's CPU mining only to make mining less gamable by lots of GPUs chained together. hmmm, I've been avoiding that forum for the most part. So that's actually gonna work? Can we mine in pools still via CPU? I don't see coinotron mining for SC yet... |