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Title: An important message from the Solidcoin developers
Post by: ThomasV on September 18, 2011, 09:50:55 AM
[EDIT: The following message is a joke, where I imitate the style of messages written by the Solidcoin developer. The use of the plural in the title is part of the joke.]

I have a very important message from the Solidcoin developers to the community.

As you may know, the SolidCoin 2.0 blockchain will not be compatible with the previous one. All solidcoins that have been mined and traded in SC 1.xx are going to be deemed invalid by the new network.

Unfortunately, it has been impossible for SC developers to find a way to transfer SC amounts from the old blockchain to the new blockchain in a consistent way ; we have found that it is impossible to reliably distinguish the adresses used by legitimate users and the adresses used to spam the old blockchain.

Fortunately, we have found a lightweight solution, that will transfer the value of solidcoins from the 1.xx blockchain to the 2.0 blockchain, instead of transferring the solidcoins themselves. This solution involves the use of Bitcoins, as a temporary store of value. This solution will avoid the transfer of thousands of spammed addresses to the new blockchain.

If you own Solidcoins, we suggest that you exchange them for BTC for the time being, because old solidcoins are soon going to be worthless. Once Solidcoin 2.0 will be traded on exchanges, you will be able to convert your BTC back to the new solidcoins.

Depending on the market exchange rates, you might not have exactly the same amount of Solidcoins before and after the transfer. However, statistical fluctuations should cancel out. We found that the first users who will exchange their old solidcoins for new ones might enjoy a more favourable exchange rate. This will create a nice incentive to bootstrap the conversion process.


Title: Re: An important message from the Solidcoin developers
Post by: coblee on September 18, 2011, 09:54:55 AM
I don't get it. Is this a joke? How would one exchange their old solidcoins for bitcoins? Who would buy these solidcoins that will soon become worthless? And how would they then convert their solidcoins to the new 2.0 solidcoins. This makes no sense whatsoever.



Title: Re: An important message from the Solidcoin developers
Post by: worldinacoin on September 18, 2011, 09:55:40 AM
I don't have many coins, so does not matter much, but just anxiously waiting for the start of the new mining.  When is the estimated start of the new Solidcoin?


Title: Re: An important message from the Solidcoin developers
Post by: Lolcust on September 18, 2011, 10:01:41 AM
I don't get it. Is this a joke? How would one exchange their old solidcoins for bitcoins? Who would buy these solidcoins that will soon become worthless?

Hot potato principle - the last man to own Ye Olde Solicoinsiz looses.

Having said that, I  do not know if anyone would by old solidcoinsiz for bitcoins, but as a gesture of good will, I will buy them for Geist Geld, at a fixed rate of 1 solidcoin for 1 Geist :D


Title: Re: An important message from the Solidcoin developers
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on September 18, 2011, 10:13:07 AM
Not sure if serious.


Title: Re: An important message from the Solidcoin developers
Post by: Lolcust on September 18, 2011, 10:18:39 AM
You mean me or the whole "announcement" ?

My offer is absolutely serious.


Title: Re: An important message from the Solidcoin developers
Post by: Cosbycoin on September 18, 2011, 10:19:56 AM
You mean me or the whole "announcement" ?

My offer is absolutely serious.

I would move to say that using your premined GG that was initially for bounties should not be used in such said transactions.



Title: Re: An important message from the Solidcoin developers
Post by: simonk83 on September 18, 2011, 10:21:03 AM
I don't get it. Is this a joke? How would one exchange their old solidcoins for bitcoins? Who would buy these solidcoins that will soon become worthless? And how would they then convert their solidcoins to the new 2.0 solidcoins. This makes no sense whatsoever.



Lol, they've really thought this one through haven't they :D  


Title: Re: An important message from the Solidcoin developers
Post by: Lolcust on September 18, 2011, 10:23:31 AM
Actually, I intend to use the coins that I have "properly" mined over the period of time

I strongly doubt there will be so many solidcoiners coming forward that I will have to consider using Superfund to introduce them to Geist ^__^


Title: Re: An important message from the Solidcoin developers
Post by: Cosbycoin on September 18, 2011, 10:25:31 AM
Actually, I intend to use the coins that I have "properly" mined over the period of time

I strongly doubt there will be so many solidcoiners coming forward that I will have to consider using Superfund to introduce them to Geist ^__^

You never know...just saying...


Title: Re: An important message from the Solidcoin developers
Post by: Xenland on September 18, 2011, 10:27:31 AM
This is why i don't believe in alt-currencies.... you don't hear gavin or jeff saying "Hey everyone you have to sell your bitcoins for fiat because every things going to shit! Sorry to say but somebodies gotta take the blow...."

lol this is a funny thread!!! OMG


Title: Re: An important message from the Solidcoin developers
Post by: ohforf on September 18, 2011, 10:48:24 AM
ThomasV does not speak for the SolidCoin Developers.
Everything he wrote is wrong, except this:
Quote
the SolidCoin 2.0 blockchain will not be compatible with the previous one.


Title: Re: An important message from the Solidcoin developers
Post by: ThomasV on September 18, 2011, 11:00:55 AM
ThomasV does not speak for the SolidCoin Developers.
Everything he wrote is wrong, except this:
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the SolidCoin 2.0 blockchain will not be compatible with the previous one.

Indeed, Solidcoin users seem to have a hard time detecting sarcasm; thank you for helping them.

I think that most of these alternate cryptocurrencies are going to fail, because Bitcoin is in a position where it cannot be challenged; it is a "natural monopoly", as stated by Atlas.

I tried to warn people several times against these bitcoin forks, and especially about SolidCoin ; read my previous posts.


Title: Re: An important message from the Solidcoin developers
Post by: ohforf on September 18, 2011, 11:22:37 AM
ThomasV does not speak for the SolidCoin Developers.
Everything he wrote is wrong, except this:
Quote
the SolidCoin 2.0 blockchain will not be compatible with the previous one.

Indeed, Solidcoin users seem to have a hard time detecting sarcasm; thank you for helping them.

I think that most of these alternate cryptocurrencies are going to fail, because Bitcoin is in a position where it cannot be challenged; it is a "natural monopoly", as stated by Atlas.

I tried to warn people several times against these bitcoin forks, and especially about SolidCoin ; read my previous posts.


Yes, most of these alternate cryptocurrencies are going to fail, i believe that.
SolidCoin is likely to survive, simply because its the #1 Target of Trolls and Hackers.
If SolidCoin was doomed, it would be ignored and die silently.  ;D


Title: Re: An important message from the Solidcoin developers
Post by: EskimoBob on September 18, 2011, 05:46:18 PM
I have a very important message from the Solidcoin developers to the community.
And WTF are you exactly?

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As you may know, the SolidCoin 2.0 blockchain will not be compatible with the previous one.
So, you (CoinHunter/reaSoled) finally realized this?! I think multiple people have told you that this can not be done!
You monkeys did not listen and kept baning your heads against the wall and telling lies here and in your own forum.
 

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All solidcoins that have been mined and traded in SC 1.xx are going to be deemed invalid by the new network.

Doh? So you have made empty promises (automatic conversion etc) and lied to everyone who has bothered reading you crap.
Your new "network" is a joke and there is no need for this at all. You are pushing this new shit only so you can pre-mine a huge amount of coins and hope, thy will be forth something.  Fuck off!

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Unfortunately, it has been impossible for SC developers to find a way to transfer SC amounts from the old blockchain to the new blockchain in a consistent way ; we have found that it is impossible to reliably distinguish the adresses used by legitimate users and the adresses used to spam the old blockchain.

Doh? So you have made empty promises (automatic conversion etc) and lied to everyone who has bothered reading you crap.

Quote
Fortunately, we have found a lightweight solution, that will transfer the value of solidcoins from the 1.xx blockchain to the 2.0 blockchain, instead of transferring the solidcoins themselves. This solution involves the use of Bitcoins, as a temporary store of value. This solution will avoid the transfer of thousands of spammed addresses to the new blockchain.

If any usable exchange (excluding Moonco.in scam) accepts Solidcoin 1, there is absolutely NO need for your scam coin 2.0!
Why switch to 2.0? There is NO need for this at all! If 1.0 can be traded, it can be used and mined without your new and utterly fucked up chain. Fix your stupid mistakes in 1.4 and and stop selling us your endless bullshit, CoinHunter/reaSoled


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If you own Solidcoins, we suggest that you exchange them for BTC for the time being, because old solidcoins are soon going to be worthless. Once Solidcoin 2.0 will be traded on exchanges, you will be able to convert your BTC back to the new solidcoins.

FUD! Your 2.0 IS THE biggest joke and epic failure.

Quote
Depending on the market exchange rates, you might not have exactly the same amount of Solidcoins before and after the transfer. However, statistical fluctuations should cancel out. We found that the first users who will exchange their old solidcoins for new ones might enjoy a more favourable exchange rate. This will create a nice incentive to bootstrap the conversion process.

How delusional are you? Sorry, wrong question, you are so far gone you think you are fine.

Only smart thing people can do at this point in time is to stay as far as possible form your jokers as far as possible foem your joke 2.0 coin.
Keep trading and mining the 1.4 (fixed version) and forget all about this 2.0 bullshit!



Title: Re: An important message from the Solidcoin developers
Post by: BCEmporium on September 18, 2011, 06:13:43 PM
If you own Solidcoins, we suggest that you exchange them for BTC for the time being, because old solidcoins are soon going to be worthless. Once Solidcoin 2.0 will be traded on exchanges, you will be able to convert your BTC back to the new solidcoins.

Depending on the market exchange rates, you might not have exactly the same amount of Solidcoins before and after the transfer. However, statistical fluctuations should cancel out. We found that the first users who will exchange their old solidcoins for new ones might enjoy a more favourable exchange rate. This will create a nice incentive to bootstrap the conversion process.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ROFLOL! I can't stop laughing reading this!

This bozo words:
If you own Solidcoins, we suggest that you exchange them for BTC for the time being, because old solidcoins are soon going to be worthless.

Translation:

If you've Scamcoin, we suggest that you go find someone else and scam him to trade his bitcoins for your scamcoins, because your scamcoins are soon going to be worthless.

Once Solidcoin 2.0 will be traded on exchanges, you will be able to convert your BTC back to the new solidcoins.

Translation:

If you're dumb enough to bite our scam twice, you're welcome. We need eediots like you.


We found that the first users who will exchange their old solidcoins for new ones might enjoy a more favourable exchange rate.

Translation:

Be quick! As the rates will go downhill as soon as the scammers start to try dump their scamcoins for bitcoins.


Title: Re: An important message from the Solidcoin developers
Post by: Cosbycoin on September 18, 2011, 06:40:26 PM
If you own Solidcoins, we suggest that you exchange them for BTC for the time being, because old solidcoins are soon going to be worthless. Once Solidcoin 2.0 will be traded on exchanges, you will be able to convert your BTC back to the new solidcoins.

Depending on the market exchange rates, you might not have exactly the same amount of Solidcoins before and after the transfer. However, statistical fluctuations should cancel out. We found that the first users who will exchange their old solidcoins for new ones might enjoy a more favourable exchange rate. This will create a nice incentive to bootstrap the conversion process.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ROFLOL! I can't stop laughing reading this!

This bozo words:
If you own Solidcoins, we suggest that you exchange them for BTC for the time being, because old solidcoins are soon going to be worthless.

Translation:

If you've Scamcoin, we suggest that you go find someone else and scam him to trade his bitcoins for your scamcoins, because your scamcoins are soon going to be worthless.

Once Solidcoin 2.0 will be traded on exchanges, you will be able to convert your BTC back to the new solidcoins.

Translation:

If you're dumb enough to bite our scam twice, you're welcome. We need eediots like you.


We found that the first users who will exchange their old solidcoins for new ones might enjoy a more favourable exchange rate.

Translation:

Be quick! As the rates will go downhill as soon as the scammers start to try dump their scamcoins for bitcoins.

You do know the OP was joking right?


Title: Re: An important message from the Solidcoin developers
Post by: Mousepotato on September 18, 2011, 06:44:06 PM
I have a very important message from the Solidcoin developers to the community.
And WTF are you exactly?

Quote
As you may know, the SolidCoin 2.0 blockchain will not be compatible with the previous one.
So, you (CoinHunter/reaSoled) finally realized this?! I think multiple people have told you that this can not be done!
You monkeys did not listen and kept baning your heads against the wall and telling lies here and in your own forum.
 

Quote
All solidcoins that have been mined and traded in SC 1.xx are going to be deemed invalid by the new network.

Doh? So you have made empty promises (automatic conversion etc) and lied to everyone who has bothered reading you crap.
Your new "network" is a joke and there is no need for this at all. You are pushing this new shit only so you can pre-mine a huge amount of coins and hope, thy will be forth something.  Fuck off!

Quote
Unfortunately, it has been impossible for SC developers to find a way to transfer SC amounts from the old blockchain to the new blockchain in a consistent way ; we have found that it is impossible to reliably distinguish the adresses used by legitimate users and the adresses used to spam the old blockchain.

Doh? So you have made empty promises (automatic conversion etc) and lied to everyone who has bothered reading you crap.

Quote
Fortunately, we have found a lightweight solution, that will transfer the value of solidcoins from the 1.xx blockchain to the 2.0 blockchain, instead of transferring the solidcoins themselves. This solution involves the use of Bitcoins, as a temporary store of value. This solution will avoid the transfer of thousands of spammed addresses to the new blockchain.

If any usable exchange (excluding Moonco.in scam) accepts Solidcoin 1, there is absolutely NO need for your scam coin 2.0!
Why switch to 2.0? There is NO  for this at all! If 1.0 can be traded, it can be used and mined without your new and utterly fucked up chain. Fix your stupid mistakes in 1.4 and and stop selling us your endless bullshit, CoinHunter/reaSoled


Quote
If you own Solidcoins, we suggest that you exchange them for BTC for the time being, because old solidcoins are soon going to be worthless. Once Solidcoin 2.0 will be traded on exchanges, you will be able to convert your BTC back to the new solidcoins.

FUD! Your 2.0 IS THE biggest joke and epic failure.

Quote
Depending on the market exchange rates, you might not have exactly the same amount of Solidcoins before and after the transfer. However, statistical fluctuations should cancel out. We found that the first users who will exchange their old solidcoins for new ones might enjoy a more favourable exchange rate. This will create a nice incentive to bootstrap the conversion process.

How delusional are you? Sorry, wrong question, you are so far gone you think you are fine.

Only smart thing people can do at this point in time is to stay as far as possible form your jokers as far as possible foem your joke 2.0 coin.
Keep trading and mining the 1.4 (fixed version) and forget all about this 2.0 bullshit!



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Title: Re: An important message from the Solidcoin developers
Post by: froggy on September 18, 2011, 06:45:22 PM
I'm pretty sure this is indeed ThomasV trying to be funny or to troll. If you look at his post record, I wouldn't think he would be making any official announcements on behalf of SolidCoin.  I haven't seen anything about this in the official solidcoin forums.

If this is fake, it's stupid.  Disinformation does nothing to help other forum members.  This applies to many of the threads in this Alternate cryptocurrencies area.

Why can't we just live together, and if there's criticism, make it constructive rather than all this fighting.


Title: Re: An important message from the Solidcoin developers
Post by: johnj on September 18, 2011, 06:50:00 PM
Disinformation does nothing to help other forum members

Ahh, you'll be the third SC supporter I've asked.  The two others haven't replied:

If you're against misinformation, why don't you ask CH to take down his "Bitcoin to Collapse" propaganda? The one he paid bounties to distribute.

I await your reply.


Title: Re: An important message from the Solidcoin developers
Post by: ThomasV on September 18, 2011, 07:07:24 PM
I'm pretty sure this is indeed ThomasV trying to be funny or to troll. If you look at his post record, I wouldn't think he would be making any official announcements on behalf of SolidCoin.  I haven't seen anything about this in the official solidcoin forums.

If this is fake, it's stupid.  Disinformation does nothing to help other forum members.  This applies to many of the threads in this Alternate cryptocurrencies area.

Why can't we just live together, and if there's criticism, make it constructive rather than all this fighting.


I am not trolling, I am trying to protect users from financial losses.
I did predict the failure of SolidCoin before the bubble popped.
However, my messages were probably too boring, and were ignored.
Now I realize that sarcasm is much more efficient. :-)

If you want to read messages where I am serious, please read this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40363.msg493639#msg493639
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=37592.msg463263#msg463263
What I wrote there holds for GeistGeld too.


Title: Re: An important message from the Solidcoin developers
Post by: froggy on September 18, 2011, 07:19:09 PM
johnj, I've never particularly liked that article, but it doesn't mean I've felt it necessary to make sarcastic posts .  However, you have a point, therefore: http://solidcointalk.org/topic/223-an-attempt-to-end-the-bitcoin-solidcoin-fighting/


Title: Re: An important message from the Solidcoin developers
Post by: johnj on September 18, 2011, 07:22:09 PM
johnj, I've never particularly liked that article, but it doesn't mean I've felt it necessary to make sarcatic posts .  However, you have a point, therefore: http://solidcointalk.org/topic/223-an-attempt-to-end-the-bitcoin-solidcoin-fighting/

Nice job.  Hopefully something will come out of it. You're the first to even reply to that proposition.


Title: Re: An important message from the Solidcoin developers
Post by: BCEmporium on September 18, 2011, 07:24:42 PM
You do know the OP was joking right?

Actually no, but it made me laugh a lot.  ;D