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can you invest in mining farms in the next months and 2 years or shouldn't you invest there?
Envion = ?????   ;D
Terraminer = ?????  ;D
Ice Rock Mining Part I and Part II  ????  ;D ;D
Ambit Mining = ICO end 

I don't know exactly. But I don't think all three have brought people no much profit yet.
would you rather invest there or not  ???

there's no money from me. but what's your opinion

I can already give you an answer for Envion: 0 profit as it is a scam ICO. You should look at the official announcement thread for thoses coins for more information.

I doubt investors can get profit on Envion project because Envion is a problematic ICO project, Tokens allocation for investors has not been completed, Bounty hunter has not been paid, even team and CEO founder sued each other, you can read about it on their official twitter or thread but, I don't know about other mining projects

They can't promise you anything, it all depends on the future value of these coins. Your best bet would be to actually go and meet the team, see their mining operation for yourself and talk to them about it (and asses if it's legit).

Let's see how ICE ROCK MINING develops. I don't think you get that much profit. That's utopia. And nothing will happen at Envion because the courts are working too slowly in germany . and not much is happening at terraminer either. there was a fire in the container.

yeah, the chance to get something from envion is close to be 0% unfortunately. i've just read the article, which describes the current situation around this ICO, today:
https://www.ccn.com/the-envion-ico-scandal-both-sides-of-the-story/

I think the kind of profit or roi they are claiming to provide for the investors is too good to be true especially keeping the present market conditions and prices of btc and eth, at the moment there is hardly any profit in mining, difficulty is also increasing, but yes if your aim is longterm mining and also holding the mining profits/dividends for longterm untill btc/eth grows multifolds from here then you can definitely gain such profit and roi, but you need a strategy for this and also you need to find legit, real and efficient mining projects.

The mining farm is not a profitable business again. The difficulty will increase the time to the time. There is no one of them doesn't even release the product. Those dummies projects were offering the crap idea to the investors. For those are still believing with them should wait maybe for more than a hundred years later. I would not because basically, their idea was crap.

From this list, i think that only Ambit Mining will be succesful. Also, you forgot to mention Swiss Alps Mining, their project looks good as well. They have already collected 5.000.000$ in Pre-Ico.

Although it is well known that cloud mining schemes are very risky and are most often times, scams, i could still choose from your list. If i had to choose, i would bet my money on Envion (ENV). Of all the cloud mining services, they seem to be the most professional in terms of their overall business plan.

Envion seems to have concrete and tangible ideas that could indeed translate into profit.

As stated by an user envion has already termed to be a scam based on the way they have generated the tokens as well providing profit to the investors. With ice rock mining the objective is good, but how successful it is found effective is still a myth. There are local hosts in certain area who were doing same in a trusted manner.

Envion is in trouble now with legal dispute with its CEO and Founders and we don't know how long it will be going to solve. anyway other mining platforms are look promising
But we can't judge it till today because it has no review yet to judge lets give this platforms a benefit of a doubt for the mean time.

ice rock mining is scam. there will be no profit. i am convinced of that. and many of the icos to come will be scam. the market is very bad for ico

We know that cryptocurrency mining is still churning out good profits and so these projects on such an industry if done properly and with honest and capable management should be doing well. Unfortunately, that is not the case primarily because many of the people behind those projects are only thinking of the money and not the long term viability that can make their token buyers happy and satisfied. In the case of Envion, it is the team that accused each other of fraud and I don't know if the drama was just intended to confused the many who believe on them and put money for the project. These are the same people who are making the same projects bad and doubtful in the eyes of the public. It is just unfortunate that ICOs these days do not value and do not practice accountability.

At the moment investors are loosing confidence in all these mining projects as realistically there is almost no profit in mining keeping in mind the current price value of btc, secondly big projects like envion have not delievered even uptill now, its copy program minerone also seems to be moving at snail pace to start mining with max resources and pay the dividends to investors so everything seems foggy at the moment.

If you want to earn profits on mining - just buy own rigs or ASICs and don't invest in any mining ICOs because they are not profitable! Invest in new blockchains to receive good ROIs.

Common grounds for this projects are they bagged a lot during their ICO and continuing to fail on every step they are taking (talking about the roadmap). Especially Envion who are allegedly being scammed by their own partner, such a shame how unprofessional this projects are doing.

They are all scam projects. Envions has turned into the scam project recently. The mining project just like a dream and they are all offering bullshit to the investors. Their idea don't make sense. All of them have created by the scammers to grab fast money. I hope they can be arrested as soon as possible. You can try to see that how envion becomes a scam.

I've been hearing lots of complains about the scamming of this project, and in fact most of the participants of this project including investors were stressed out due to cheating developers. One of them was envion has terribly gone bad reputation from people who've been a part of their behind their mining platform that turns our a failure. Hopefully those three other projects won't be falling us into trap again, since they're going to launch their tokens for future live trading.

none of them survive. In 2020 there will be no more mining that will bring 20% ​​roi. then the mining farms are gone and only the team has money. no investor will get btc .

And ice rock does not pay any bounty people  ;)  Questions about the bounty are deleted  ;D ;D  = red Flagg

Done all of theirs campaigns and received nothing. In my experience a lot of mining projects turns out to be scams or just fail.
I am not saying all of them are but that was the case with me

I think all these projects are shady at the moment, no real project development is going on, im doing some cloud mining with genesis mining i think they pay less than these projects claim but that is atleast legit and real project paying the investors from many years.

I don't know about Ambit Mining but other is a scam. You can see threads about Envion - this is 100% scam. CEO escaped with money. As I heard Terraminer scam too. They didn't do anything since they started ICO and it looks like this is scam for 99%.
I read about Ice rock mining and it looks like we will see another "mining scam project". So I can say this is not good investment at all.
Be careful with that.

It's scam. Tokenstore sells thousands of tokens. the team says it's bounty people. that's a lie. no bounty participant got token. and who has not got token can not sell. So it's the team. They sell token under price to get eth. In telegram, people are instantly banned asking questions about bounty and selling on tokenstore.


this is what a telegram subscriber writes today in telegram

@Dias1990 @mmlkvch @dmitriyICO You three gentlemen are the admins of this Bounty channel. I don't know who of you is in charge of bounties and who in charge of bounty distribution, but it has to be one of you, right?
We are waiting for basic explanation. All we heard so far is that bounty distribution has started already (which is most likely a lie) and "Be patient"
The waiting itself is not the biggest problem. Problem is that you break promises and don't tell us what is happening. If you delay all the time, of course we get worried that something is wrong. If you would send short news on Monday telling us "Sorry guys, distribution will not be today because our technical director doesn't have time. It will be on Wednesday." then we would be calm and we wouldn't ask questions every day.



First envion, then terraminer and now Shice Rock Mining

People are still investing in Envion scam project. Scam or not, people don't care. Maybe some don't know what is this token and just want to trade it as it is still tradeable.
Also some bots might do some trading of scam projects. Who knows, a team of pump&dump might also buy some.

the ambit of the newly completed project has not even entered the market, we do not know what will happen later with ambit so difficult to predict

http://fs5.directupload.net/images/180620/6yntfr4z.jpg   


that's a joke from ICE ROCK MINING TEAM  ;D ;D

Forget Envion. The CEO did an illegal takeover, and it is the first analouge "hack" of an ICO. It would have been a credible project, but Mr. Woestmann (the CEO) took the funds and did not let the team begin mass production, as he claims the dev team created additional tokens for themselfes.

Just stay away from it. Even if the mining will happen, it will be too late, PoS coins will be popular, minable coins less so - so it will not worth it.

Bitcoin Block Reward Halving Countdown
Reward-Drop ETA date: 26 May 2020 07:54:13

The Bitcoin block mining reward halves every 210,000 blocks, the coin reward will decrease from 12.5 to 6.25 coins.

you need a S25 Miner in 2020  ;D ;D ;D ;D and a nuclear power plant . good luck with Mining Scam

I have purchased around thousand minerone tokens from etherdelta just because i liked the founder of minerone and he seems to be honest uptill now, secondly, their last ico price was around 90 cents per token and i was able to buy them for around 30 cents and now it is even selling for little lower, they are setting up mining at the moment and first profit share will be sent in august.

That's really mistery to me I saw today Envoin went up 15% or something. I really don't understand that. They don't have any news from 20th May. That's last activity on Twitter and people still buy envion! This is insane!
They should know about Envion situation. This is one of the biggest scam on market about 100 millions or something.

http://fs1.directupload.net/images/180620/aldzze6w.jpg
2020 there will be no more mining here at envion,terraminer and Ice Rock Mining. invest in BTC or ETH . it's saver for you

That make sence! I don't believe to these "mining" ICO. If you want to be sure you should do that by yourself. I mean mining. If you can't do that or just don't want to mining, it woud be better if you invest money direct to the coin - buy BTC,LTC,ETH etc

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Terraminer = Pavel = Scam. Envion = Woestmann =Scam. all mining ico are scam. also in the future. you will never get eth or btc. forget such ico and buy eth or btc. that is safer


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Ambit has sent the bounty rewards to all the participants. I did the Twitter campaign and have received yesterday my rewards. So there is still hope that one mining company will succeed.

This is good sign that company did what they need to do, but it doesn't mean that it would be successful. I know a lot of ICO's that sent tokens and after they don't have any trades or exchanges this is "dead" coin.
In general all( at least most of them) "mining ICO" became scam. I don't know why because this is very easy to buy equipment and start mining, but they always prefer to walk away with investors money.

"I have purchased around thousand minerone tokens from etherdelta"

How are you doing that? I don't see it listed on etherdelta yet...

Definitely No!

No matter how good their promotion is or in the contract price they do offer its quite normal that any cloud mining sites wont really be good for long term but well its your own money its still up your choice if you do like to proceed or not but i do tell you this that its being mentioned for a thousand times about cloud mining sites unprofitable way of investment.If you do like to waste up money then its your choice and also there are lots of alternatives on how to grow your money.

In the past, a lot of people wanted me to invest in Envion, but after learning about the Envion project, I realized that this was a potential project. So I did not invest my money in Envion

The projects you invest in are projects that can not make a profit, because these projects are created by not highly qualified development teams. They simply create ICO projects and want to make more money than they want to develop these projects

I agree with you that Envion is a scam coin. Since the project started, I have seen many suspicious points in this project and fortunate that I decided not to invest in this project and instead invested in the NAGA Coin project.

I do not invest in these three projects; I think you have followed the advice of others because just doing some basic analysis also recognizes that these three projects will not be community support

Envion turned out that it was planned by the CEO to be overtaken, essentially it might be the first analogue "hack" in the ICO sphere.
Now, it is a pretty difficult to judge what will happen, but it looks like the founders will win over the CEO. But it is a long way to come, and everyone loses out on this whole fiasco.

And by this, I would not tough these coins. Any of them. sorry.

Envion ended up a scam, creating stories that there have been a problem on their management part. I guess they have already ran away with the investor's money. Let's seen whether the other mining tokens will keep their promise to investors since they have earned decent amount of money on their ICO.

I second you on the Swiss Alps mining. With the swiss alpls mining, the team has a working a product and a lot of mining infrastructures to prove their capabilities. But for the Ambit mining I doubt them.

Its clear its just an alibi for them to take their investors money. Not really directly ran of but with those reasoning its clear on what they do intent to which is on scamming.Lots of projects do propose cloud mining I don't even see whats their differences compared into those previous or long running cloud mining nowadays yet results would really be just still the same. I don't see anything new for me to be interested of. Profitable? No its not.

Swiss Alps mining? Are you sure? You really think that mining on Alps this is a good idea? Is there are cheap electricity power? Switzerland is not cheap county at all, so I don't think that this is good and profitable idea make mining there.

Such ROI might be possible but only in the short term, there is lots of risk for sure and it is not sustainable in the long term, you can find notices regarding this in the whitepaper.

I am skeptical about the mining ico in general with so many news that lightning network will lead to less fees and all that.Can someone clarify me on how it will affect transaction fees .

How are you buying tokens? I don't see it listed on etherdelta yet...

stay away from these scams. not worth the risk at all

That's right. It will certainly become a scam object and many people will lose their money.

And people should know about that. Because now manager or bounty hunter can get red trust because of scam.
Actually I like the idea when bounty manager take their responsibility for scam company I hope that managers will refuse to advertise scam bounty ICO.

You can make profits on mining if you buy own ASICs or GPU mining rigs only! All mining ICOs has no potential to make profits for you - profits will get mining ICO's teams only.

I did promote Ice Rock last year and up to no there is still no news if it gonna release the bounty token it promised. I don't know but there seems to be a pattern with many mining projects...either they are run by fools or the project just failed miserably either intended or not. I am particularly sad for Envion because I then believe in the project and invested some money into it. I now realized that the people behind were good in marketing but so bad in containing their scamming orientation. These projects and the people behind them are the bad apples in the whole cryptocurrency industry.

I rather glance at the concept of ambit mining than envion, and more sure the faster ROI ambit mining, we'll see later when the ambit platform is already running.
actually finom is also good for the long term

really masters indeed to the four projects have a good future so we do not hesitate to choose one of these projects for long term infes and short the important master we are confident with our own decisions of good luck.

Buy a cloud mining contract or do mining by yourself. It is more safe if you really want to get mining rewards than putting money on scams projects promising a lot of ROI. It is a lot of ROI for the creators as they can get your ETH and also sell their new coins. And their is no guarantee that they will give you anything.

I don't like cloud mining cause there are a lot of scammers too, but anyway this is better than any "mining ICO". Of course if have skills and if you can mine by yourself it would be the best decision for you.
Anyway here is other thread about ICO rock mining and why this is scam
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3139632.msg32454773#msg32454773
So be careful with these scam ICO's