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Title: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: First77 on June 15, 2018, 03:49:38 AM
The agent who worked on the FBI investigation into the Trump campaign’s alleged ties to Russia told his colleague and lover that the agency would work to “stop” Donald Trump from becoming president.FBI special agent Peter Strzok and lawyer Lisa Page – who were having an affair –  briefly worked on Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s ‘Russiagate’ investigation. They exchanged thousands of text messages, some of which were pointedly anti-Trump.“[Trump’s] not ever going to become president, right? Right?!” Page texted Strzok in one exchange in August 2016.

“No. No he won’t. We’ll stop it,” Strzok replied.The messages were first made public on Thursday, ahead of the Justice Department inspector general’s report on the FBI’s handling of the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s email server use. Strzok and Page had worked on that investigation as well.Page’s question had been previously published, but Strzok’s reply had been redacted until now. Republicans and President Trump have argued that these messages showed proof of bias within the agency.

“A man is tweeting to his lover that if [Clinton] loses, we’ll essentially do the insurance policy,” Trump told the Wall Street Journal earlier this year. “We’ll go to phase two and we’ll get this guy out of office.”. “This is the FBI we’re talking about — that is treason,” the president continued. “That is a treasonous act. What he tweeted to his lover is a treasonous act.”

https://www.rt.com/usa (https://www.rt.com/usa/429788-fbi-agent-stop-trump)


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: Risoruni on June 15, 2018, 07:45:33 AM
>>https://www.rt.com/usa

Oh man. RT is a good source of destructive misinformation. RT is most of all for marginalized people, those who tend to believe in all sorts of incredible things about their own government in America or other Western countries.


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: Khimmy28 on June 15, 2018, 09:18:23 AM
>>https://www.rt.com/usa

Oh man. RT is a good source of destructive misinformation. RT is most of all for marginalized people, those who tend to believe in all sorts of incredible things about their own government in America or other Western countries.
Why the attack on RT?
Is the information fake?
To the main issue, workers have a right to hold political opinions but they should be trained on how best to handle that when they are in sensitive positions like this two FBI agents.


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: Yeranig on June 15, 2018, 09:47:32 AM
Aren't these messages supposed to be private discussions ?  ???


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: First77 on June 15, 2018, 04:17:32 PM
well that's out.. how did these get out? if they are even true??

FBI agent has a lover (lawyer) and they are desperate to stop Donald Trump from becoming U.S President and FBI agents interview people like Iraqi President Saddam Hussein. Look at all the WARS going on worldwide.


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: Risoruni on June 16, 2018, 07:27:30 AM
>>https://www.rt.com/usa

Oh man. RT is a good source of destructive misinformation. RT is most of all for marginalized people, those who tend to believe in all sorts of incredible things about their own government in America or other Western countries.
Why the attack on RT?
Is the information fake?
To the main issue, workers have a right to hold political opinions but they should be trained on how best to handle that when they are in sensitive positions like this two FBI agents.

I bet ou heard of "crucified boy" from Ukraine, they stood behind this story. Russian RT is nothing more than an instrument of Russian propaganda in the context of information war. If you do not mind translating from Russian, then you can review some fakes spread by them here: https://theins.ru/antifake/58435


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: CRYPTON0101 on June 16, 2018, 10:27:10 AM
As they say choose your words wisely....
The new proposed voting Clear poll sounds promising and convenient based on blockchain technology user friendly vote directly on your mobile phone on any issue then that vote is verified..awesome


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: Quickseller on June 25, 2018, 02:40:43 AM
>>https://www.rt.com/usa

Oh man. RT is a good source of destructive misinformation. RT is most of all for marginalized people, those who tend to believe in all sorts of incredible things about their own government in America or other Western countries.
This has been fairly widely reported, and in this case is accurate.


This is very concerning, and is another example of the Obama "Deep State" and abuse of power that took place under his administration.

I would be willing to speculate that the "Russia" investigation will ultimately result in multiple indictments of people associated with Clinton and that work(ed) in various intelligence agencies under Obama. 


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: bivaetjetakoe on October 20, 2018, 01:08:30 PM
I think everyone knows that Trump and Putin are friends.
No matter how frightening each other is, it's like a circus.
These are the two most powerful countries, if they start a war - there will be a boom
That's why I'm glad they are together.


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: bluefirecorp_ on October 20, 2018, 05:27:54 PM
Damned agent not doing his job;

He should have acted, considering there was credible intelligence that says Trump colluded with a foreign hostile nation, which accounts to treason.

Last I checked, treason is a federal crime which requires the FBI to investigate and prosecute.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Russia_dossier#Allegations


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: Spendulus on October 20, 2018, 07:38:51 PM
.....“[Trump’s] not ever going to become president, right? Right?!” Page texted Strzok in one exchange in August 2016.

“No. No he won’t. We’ll stop it,” Strzok replied.....

I'm glad these morons are not employed by the FBI anymore.


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: byteball on October 20, 2018, 09:12:22 PM
I think everyone knows that Trump and Putin are friends.
Is there any information in US media about lawyers of Yanukovich, the President of Ukraine ousted in 2014 with attempted assassination, passing documents about coup d'etat to Trump and plans to "investigate" the dems' (Obama) involvement?
Or is it saved for the last 1-2 weeks before the election?


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: squatz1 on October 21, 2018, 01:01:38 AM
>>https://www.rt.com/usa

Oh man. RT is a good source of destructive misinformation. RT is most of all for marginalized people, those who tend to believe in all sorts of incredible things about their own government in America or other Western countries.

Even though I still agree with you on the fact that RT is a Russia shill and attempt to create chaos in the US on certain things. I don't think this is something that they're exaggerating in the least, as this message between strozk and his lover shows that this sort of behavior was present within some of the FBI's investigations -- as Strozk wasn't just some lowly guy, he was a pretty high ranking member of the FBI.

This sort of stuff is horrid and I hope it can be rooted out of the FBI for good.


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: TECSHARE on October 21, 2018, 01:05:55 AM
If you can't argue against the facts, attack the source. Maybe no one will notice the facts.


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: Spendulus on October 21, 2018, 03:27:43 AM
....I still agree with you on the fact that RT is a Russia shill and attempt to create chaos in the US on certain things...

RT can not possibly be any worse, or any better, at fake news that the American media, or that of the world.

Perhaps it has specific objectives some of the time, but other times it is just doing reporting.


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: squatz1 on October 21, 2018, 06:06:12 AM
If you can't argue against the facts, attack the source. Maybe no one will notice the facts.

This is a perfect quote, I'm going to be using it for my own stuff from here on out.

Thanks for this!


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: Spendulus on October 21, 2018, 01:07:11 PM
...“[Trump’s] not ever going to become president, right? Right?!” Page texted Strzok in one exchange in August 2016.

“No. No he won’t. We’ll stop it,” Strzok replied....

So...

How's that 'stopping Trump' going?


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: bluefirecorp_ on October 21, 2018, 08:23:13 PM
“I understand we are living in a political era in which insults and insinuation often drown out honesty and integrity,” Mr. Strzok said, continuing: “I have the utmost respect for Congress’s oversight role, but I truly believe that today’s hearing is just another victory notch in Putin’s belt and another milestone in our enemies’ campaign to tear America apart.”

He concluded: “As someone who loves this country and cherishes its ideals, it is profoundly painful to watch and even worse to play a part in.”

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Putin's won :(

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“There is a criminal investigation into the Trump campaign and possible crimes related to the 2016 presidential election involving collusion with Russian spies to sell out our democracy and hijack the presidency,” said Representative Hakeem Jeffries, Democrat of New York. “My colleagues in the cover-up caucus don’t like that criminal investigation, and therefore, they need to identify a villain. Mr. Strzok, tag, you’re it.”


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Mr. Strzok said on Thursday that he deeply regretted the messages, but that they did not amount to more than private political beliefs. He defended that particular text as a late-night, “off-the-cuff” message after “then-candidate Trump” insulted “the immigrant family of a fallen war hero,” Humayun Khan.

“And my presumption, based on that horrible, disgusting behavior” was “that the American population would not elect somebody demonstrating that behavior to be president of the United States,” he said.

He added that a broader look at his texts would show disparaging remarks toward all the candidates in the 2016 campaign.

“To suggest we can parse down the shorthand like they’re some contract for a car is simply not consistent with my or most people’s use of text messaging,” Mr. Strzok said.


==

Meh, texting on a public phone a message to a colleague? Pretty much, they texted back and forth how dirty Trump was, and when the Trump admin did a ctrl+f, they found this guy. He was a scapegoat to distract the public.

Woo! Way to go guys, let's attack a longtime service man because man-child felt attacked personally.


===

A former Army officer, Mr. Strzok has worked at the F.B.I. for more than two decades. He rose quickly through its ranks, earning a reputation within the bureau as one of its most savvy and reliable counterintelligence agents. It was that reputation and increasingly senior positions that landed him on the teams investigating both Mrs. Clinton and eventually Mr. Trump.

For those that aren't following along in the geopolitical world, by removing this piece from the FBI, Putin effectively took a rook without losing a piece. In fact, he saved his most powerful piece at the same time. Clever play Putin.


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: yoseph on October 21, 2018, 09:08:34 PM
Damned agent not doing his job;

He should have acted, considering there was credible intelligence that says Trump colluded with a foreign hostile nation, which accounts to treason.

Last I checked, treason is a federal crime which requires the FBI to investigate and prosecute.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Russia_dossier#Allegations
The whole collusion issue with Trump and the Russians are just made up by the FBI and their Liberal friends so that they discredit the Trump presidency, they are just wasting tax payers money on something that’s really not there.


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: bluefirecorp_ on October 21, 2018, 09:17:36 PM
Damned agent not doing his job;

He should have acted, considering there was credible intelligence that says Trump colluded with a foreign hostile nation, which accounts to treason.

Last I checked, treason is a federal crime which requires the FBI to investigate and prosecute.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Russia_dossier#Allegations
The whole collusion issue with Trump and the Russians are just made up by the FBI and their Liberal friends so that they discredit the Trump presidency, they are just wasting tax payers money on something that’s really not there.

So, the Russian indictments didn't happen? Trump's campaign manager and aids pointing their fingers directly at Trump.

They've actually seized more criminal's assets than what the investigation has spent, so they're actually generating income for the average citizen ;)


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: squatz1 on October 21, 2018, 09:46:23 PM
Damned agent not doing his job;

He should have acted, considering there was credible intelligence that says Trump colluded with a foreign hostile nation, which accounts to treason.

Last I checked, treason is a federal crime which requires the FBI to investigate and prosecute.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Russia_dossier#Allegations
The whole collusion issue with Trump and the Russians are just made up by the FBI and their Liberal friends so that they discredit the Trump presidency, they are just wasting tax payers money on something that’s really not there.

So, the Russian indictments didn't happen? Trump's campaign manager and aids pointing their fingers directly at Trump.

They've actually seized more criminal's assets than what the investigation has spent, so they're actually generating income for the average citizen ;)

All of the indictments and such that have been 'related to top trump campaign officials' have NOTHING to do with the campaign. It's people getting in trouble for stuff that was BEFORE the campaign -- but Mueller is trying to pressure them into telling them what he knows about the Russia stuff with these indictments. -- Which I don't know if there is anything.

I would think that after longer then a year we would see some stuff come out of the Russia probe -- but I guess not.


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: bluefirecorp_ on October 21, 2018, 09:48:09 PM
Damned agent not doing his job;

He should have acted, considering there was credible intelligence that says Trump colluded with a foreign hostile nation, which accounts to treason.

Last I checked, treason is a federal crime which requires the FBI to investigate and prosecute.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Russia_dossier#Allegations
The whole collusion issue with Trump and the Russians are just made up by the FBI and their Liberal friends so that they discredit the Trump presidency, they are just wasting tax payers money on something that’s really not there.

So, the Russian indictments didn't happen? Trump's campaign manager and aids pointing their fingers directly at Trump.

They've actually seized more criminal's assets than what the investigation has spent, so they're actually generating income for the average citizen ;)

All of the indictments and such that have been 'related to top trump campaign officials' have NOTHING to do with the campaign. It's people getting in trouble for stuff that was BEFORE the campaign -- but Mueller is trying to pressure them into telling them what he knows about the Russia stuff with these indictments. -- Which I don't know if there is anything.

I would think that after longer then a year we would see some stuff come out of the Russia probe -- but I guess not.

Mueller doesn't leak. Pretty sure there's enough shit to burn Trump at this point, it's really about targeting Russian oligarchy networks.

The fact that Cohen's pointing his finger at Trump and saying "fraud and collusion" is pretty damning considering the guy was Trump's personal lawyer.


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: TECSHARE on October 22, 2018, 02:18:58 AM
RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA!

That's cute that you still cling to this delusion with the kind of hope only the most willfully ignorant can exhibit. Two years, zero evidence of Russian crimes related to voter interference or any relation to Trump regarding such. It is too late. The REAL evidence is now getting out:


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-19/mueller-ordered-to-clarify-claims-against-putin-ally-s-company?srnd=premium


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-18/federal-judge-shocked-find-obama-state-dept-lied-protect-hillary-email-server


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-15/fbi-concealed-evidence-directly-refutes-premise-trump-russia-probe-gop-lawmaker


https://campaignlegal.org/document/fec-complaint-hillary-america-dnc-failure-disclose


http://thefederalist.com/2018/04/24/bombshell-fec-records-indicate-hillary-campaign-illegally-laundered-84-million/


https://phaven-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/files/document_part/asset/1415940/urnZzpSpSWlQ3OQRKOXI_UNI-u4/First_Interim_Report_Clinton_Foundation__Charles_Ortel_.pdf

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/372861-uranium-one-informant-makes-clinton-allegations-in-testimony


There is more if you like, but I got bored sifting thru the reams of Crimes she has been running from for decades, and the accusations she uses as cover hoping she won't get caught. Just FYI, just because they say it on TV doesn't make it true.


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: Spendulus on October 22, 2018, 02:22:47 AM
....
Mueller doesn't leak. Pretty sure there's enough shit to burn Trump at this point, it's really about targeting Russian oligarchy networks.

The fact that Cohen's pointing his finger at Trump and saying "fraud and collusion" is pretty damning considering the guy was Trump's personal lawyer.
Bah....

You got nothing but speculation and fantasy.


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: TECSHARE on October 22, 2018, 02:30:25 AM
....
Mueller doesn't leak. Pretty sure there's enough shit to burn Trump at this point, it's really about targeting Russian oligarchy networks.

The fact that Cohen's pointing his finger at Trump and saying "fraud and collusion" is pretty damning considering the guy was Trump's personal lawyer.
Bah....

You got nothing but speculation and fantasy.

Because facing dying in a cage for "lying" to the FBI certainly never motivates people to lie right? I mean lawyers of all people are known to be trustworthy right?


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: bluefirecorp_ on October 22, 2018, 08:26:32 AM
TECSHARE and Spendulus seem to be part of the same propaganda and misinformation campaign. Kinda scary how they deny basic facts and try to link to a dozen unrelated stories to skew facts.  ::)

Turns out if you actually dig into this FBI agent's history, he's a good guy.


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: TECSHARE on October 22, 2018, 11:06:25 AM
TECSHARE and Spendulus seem to be part of the same propaganda and misinformation campaign. Kinda scary how they deny basic facts and try to link to a dozen unrelated stories to skew facts.  ::)

Turns out if you actually dig into this FBI agent's history, he's a good guy.

Well Mr. Bond, you seem to have figured out our little scheme. BTW where do you usually LARRP? It sounds like fun.

What "basic facts" am I denying exactly? You only wish the stories were unrelated, but they demonstrate a long history of corruption within the FBI regarding politically motivated spying based on illegal warrants funded by Hillary Clinton and the Democrat party. The stories are VERY related.

This whole Trump Russia narrative is right out of Rules For Radicals, accuse your opponents of the crimes you yourself are guilty of. This information was getting out for years, but no one would prosecute it because it was dangerous as a result of complicit higher ups who supported her.

Now all of their asses are on the line, and their last hope is to keep this charade on long enough to steal the midterms in some last ditch effort in a desperate hope to stay out of prison.


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: Spendulus on October 22, 2018, 05:12:27 PM
...their last hope is to keep this charade on long enough to steal the midterms in some last ditch effort in a desperate hope to stay out of prison.

Must be why such a focus by Democrats on putting their goose steppers in state AJ positions and those who oversee elections.

I for one hope they fail and the next two years is a long, slow rot of the fishes.


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: byteball on November 16, 2018, 03:53:18 PM
So will we see coveted Impeachment or not? Is House of Representative enough for that, or will Lords... erm... senators block it?


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: Quickseller on November 17, 2018, 05:00:30 AM
So will we see coveted Impeachment or not? Is House of Representative enough for that, or will Lords... erm... senators block it?
Inpeachment is basically an indictment and the senate will act as a jury to the charges. If the senate votes by 2/3 majority to convict then the president will be removed from office.

The house will almost certainly impeach Trump, possibly multiple times however the senate will not come close to getting any kind of majority to convict, let alone a 2/3 majority.


Title: Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president
Post by: Spendulus on November 17, 2018, 05:05:23 AM
So will we see coveted Impeachment or not? Is House of Representative enough for that, or will Lords... erm... senators block it?
Inpeachment is basically an indictment and the senate will act as a jury to the charges. If the senate votes by 2/3 majority to convict then the president will be removed from office.

The house will almost certainly impeach Trump, possibly multiple times however the senate will not come close to getting any kind of majority to convict, let alone a 2/3 majority.

So it's just a big publicity stunt, pretty much right out in the open.