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Title: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: sinxyuekie on June 16, 2018, 07:46:37 AM
from january 2018, bitcoin price is always changing, a suddenly increased but after a second deep dropped will surly exist. it is the vise versa of bitcoin price last year (2017). until now the price of bitcoin from january upto now (june) is still dropping. so i was wondering if theres a group of people behind this bitcoin price drop?


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: gantez on June 16, 2018, 08:04:17 AM
If you compare the price of bitcoin in 2017 to 2018, that of last year has been more profitable to investors. Anyway, the price fluctuation is normal, it depends on the divide that one find themselves at the point in time.

For manipulation, it is possible whether intentional or not. You need to understand that when a large portion is being put on sell order, it generates panic which could lead people into selling. That in itself is a form of panic.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Kimchu kuno on June 16, 2018, 08:21:10 AM
If you compare the price of bitcoin in 2017 to 2018, that of last year has been more profitable to investors. Anyway, the price fluctuation is normal, it depends on the divide that one find themselves at the point in time.

For manipulation, it is possible whether intentional or not. You need to understand that when a large portion is being put on sell order, it generates panic which could lead people into selling. That in itself is a form of panic.

It's possible yes there are big whales who's conducted negative thoughts about bitcoin that causes on it's continues down fall main results on this panic selling even in low prices  some investors are retrieved thier investment due to that scenarios but if we think wisely those are strategy wether we remain our trust or continue using bitcoin as  main income and to have a better life to face I should recommend invest more there's a time for us to be on top.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: batang_bitcoin on June 16, 2018, 08:23:28 AM
so i was wondering if theres a group of people behind this bitcoin price drop?
It was known that there are whales who are controlling the market.

But there's no way to find out on who are these people, you can get a hint on who are spreading FUD with medias. Getting interviewed and give their statement about the falling of bitcoin. Once they have said that bitcoin is going to be dead, they are pushing people to sell. And when the price goes down, they will start buying it.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: metro.software on June 16, 2018, 08:24:02 AM
from january 2018, bitcoin price is always changing, a suddenly increased but after a second deep dropped will surly exist. it is the vise versa of bitcoin price last year (2017). until now the price of bitcoin from january upto now (june) is still dropping. so i was wondering if theres a group of people behind this bitcoin price drop?
You should ask first, if theres a group of people behind this bitcoin price rice in 2017?


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: akihiro101117 on June 16, 2018, 08:29:31 AM
from january 2018, bitcoin price is always changing, a suddenly increased but after a second deep dropped will surly exist. it is the vise versa of bitcoin price last year (2017). until now the price of bitcoin from january upto now (june) is still dropping. so i was wondering if theres a group of people behind this bitcoin price drop?
Maybe there's a group of people behind all of this BUT I think there is no way we will know that because cryptocurrency is very unpredictable. We just need to be careful and wait until the market will go up again. I'm hoping for the best that BTC will meet our expectations again this year.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: bristlefront on June 16, 2018, 09:03:22 AM
from january 2018, bitcoin price is always changing, a suddenly increased but after a second deep dropped will surly exist. it is the vise versa of bitcoin price last year (2017). until now the price of bitcoin from january upto now (june) is still dropping. so i was wondering if theres a group of people behind this bitcoin price drop?

yes those are whales that could manipulate bitcoin price because they hold many amounts of bitcoins that could interrupt a certain exchange. If those whales cooperate with each other they could change the value into $1 because maybe the time they purchase bitcoin it is much cheaper than a dollar. Some of them are the earliest buyers of bitcoin and it maybe there incentive for being an early bird.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: doraemon26 on June 16, 2018, 09:19:31 AM
from january 2018, bitcoin price is always changing, a suddenly increased but after a second deep dropped will surly exist. it is the vise versa of bitcoin price last year (2017). until now the price of bitcoin from january upto now (june) is still dropping. so i was wondering if theres a group of people behind this bitcoin price drop?

yes those are whales that could manipulate bitcoin price because they hold many amounts of bitcoins that could interrupt a certain exchange. If those whales cooperate with each other they could change the value into $1 because maybe the time they purchase bitcoin it is much cheaper than a dollar. Some of them are the earliest buyers of bitcoin and it maybe there incentive for being an early bird.

I agree, whales are there to manipulate even the market itself, They always been like that, they are the huge holders of bitcoin and other coins, they waiting patiently and selling in highest price.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: BitcoinHodler on June 16, 2018, 09:42:40 AM
many people say that FUD is causing the crashes and hype the rises, they are correct but something that  i think needs pointing out is the fact that people think FUD is simply whenever someone starts some bullshit topic on a forum and starts talking shit about bitcoin. NO that is called trolling not FUD. and people who are doing it are newbies who have no understanding of the market.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Lingqingyi on June 16, 2018, 09:45:40 AM
I think the current bitcoin manipulation by a whale, because compared with before, now prices are more likely to cause a big wave, and there is no any bad news or good news will cause large fluctuations.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: longwintershere on June 16, 2018, 09:54:14 AM
from january 2018, bitcoin price is always changing, a suddenly increased but after a second deep dropped will surly exist. it is the vise versa of bitcoin price last year (2017). until now the price of bitcoin from january upto now (june) is still dropping. so i was wondering if theres a group of people behind this bitcoin price drop?

it's being investigated by US agency as we speak, so let's see what results they will bring. But either way, I think it's mostly the business model of whales to manipulate the markets.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: shvishal on June 16, 2018, 09:57:51 AM
bitcoin price is according to the market i think if bunch of individuals sell it then the price could fall other wise i dont thing that prices of bitcoin could be manipulated by others.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Lazada on June 16, 2018, 10:02:52 AM
from january 2018, bitcoin price is always changing, a suddenly increased but after a second deep dropped will surly exist. it is the vise versa of bitcoin price last year (2017). until now the price of bitcoin from january upto now (june) is still dropping. so i was wondering if theres a group of people behind this bitcoin price drop?
Certainly, I firmly believe that there is a person or group of people who have an interest in influencing the price of Bitcoin. It has become a growing information in the public because of the decline and increase in price Bitcoin is always influenced by the wave. Furthermore, it is also influenced by public trust, as more and more people who trust Bitcoin then the price will increase. But do not forget the panic because it could have made a significant price change. panic will greatly make us become very depressed and it will also decrease the confidence in the Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: zorko34 on June 16, 2018, 10:04:19 AM
there's always some actors (whales) who can manipulate the price easily by selling a great amount of bitcoin.
Just remember that the Bitcoin market is relatively unliquid... given the total market cap of Bitcoin the daily volue is faraway less...
as you could see, few days ago a chinese whale sold 8000 BTC causing a great crash in the market... the same thing happend the first time with Mr. MtGox (the bankruptcy trustee).... in an environment of absolutely free maket conditions, no regulation at all... the answer is: yes!! the bitcoin price can be manipulated by the others...


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Siren on June 16, 2018, 10:12:27 AM
so i was wondering if theres a group of people behind this bitcoin price drop?
It was known that there are whales who are controlling the market.

But there's no way to find out on who are these people, you can get a hint on who are spreading FUD with medias. Getting interviewed and give their statement about the falling of bitcoin. Once they have said that bitcoin is going to be dead, they are pushing people to sell. And when the price goes down, they will start buying it.
US government is looking into this issue as they know how the manipulation happening here in crypto and it deals billions of dollars,but i doubt that they have the capacity to make this possible and pays those involves in this illegal activities.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: bitfocus on June 16, 2018, 10:40:49 AM
if you think of Bitcoin an Investment, yes any market can be manipulated. That's why we need focus on using Bitcoin as a currency.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: WaffleMaster on June 16, 2018, 10:47:48 AM
No, the price is not still dropping. It's found a bottom at $6,000 and $6,500 a couple times now. So I wouldn't expect it to go below those levels. But it does seem to be going from this price to $10,000 and between, seemingly randomly but the charts tend to be pretty predictive as well as random news here and there spiking the market. I wouldn't say it's manipulation. Pretty normal behavior for Bitcoin in the first few financial quarters of a year.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: VitKoyn on June 16, 2018, 11:32:18 AM
from january 2018, bitcoin price is always changing, a suddenly increased but after a second deep dropped will surly exist. it is the vise versa of bitcoin price last year (2017). until now the price of bitcoin from january upto now (june) is still dropping. so i was wondering if theres a group of people behind this bitcoin price drop?
From january 2018 Bitcoin price is always changing? lol, it always changes because it is highly volatile and the volatility of Bitcoin started from the very start that it gained its value. I also believe that because of group of huge investors selling their Bitcoin when Bitcoin reaches its all time high last year is the reason why Bitcoin price drop drastically, and it also created fear to small investors so that can also be a factor why the price of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency go down. There are really some group of whales in cryptocurrency market but we don't know who are they unless you are one of them.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: evilsign on June 16, 2018, 12:28:16 PM
from january 2018, bitcoin price is always changing, a suddenly increased but after a second deep dropped will surly exist. it is the vise versa of bitcoin price last year (2017). until now the price of bitcoin from january upto now (june) is still dropping. so i was wondering if theres a group of people behind this bitcoin price drop?
I ever read an articel about the cartel. Did you ever read that? I fully believe about that. Beside the fact it will give an impact or not in bitcoin price, it must be there is a group who together want to manipulate one market or not. But in this case, bitcoin drop from 8k until around 6k usd, there are many FUD and I guess the other people will afraid, it will decrease the trust about bitcoin.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: BTC.Turtle on June 16, 2018, 12:30:19 PM
More than people in my opinion its the events that is responsible for the change in the bitcoin price manipulation.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Arlette Foxsparkle on June 16, 2018, 12:41:39 PM
The possibility of manipulating bitcoin price by others or by people is possible. One of the factor that affects to manipulate cryptocurrency prices especially bitcoin is through buying and selling. Because of that matter it the price of bitcoin or other cryptocurrency was fluctuating or has no stable price or value.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: shkwarka333 on June 16, 2018, 12:42:39 PM
I doubt there's a group of people who coordinate their actions, although it's plausible. If so, the game is really big and cruel.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Nicol3 on June 16, 2018, 12:51:01 PM
I think there are people behind bitcoins price and of course it is these people manipulating and pulling up and down the price of bitcoin and maybe some other coins too.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Fongsay on June 16, 2018, 12:54:48 PM
price manipulation occurs only because the market is very fragile for a variety of hidden cryptoes, including the initial Bitcoin. "Despite a large market capitalization increase, similar to the bitcoin market in 2013 (the period under review), the cryptto market is very fragile. The number of cryptoes increased from about 80 during the period under review to 843 days subject to price manipulation.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Jonsnowstark on June 16, 2018, 12:55:08 PM
It is possible that bitcoin's price is manipulated by big whales here in cryptocurrency world market. Bitcoin's proce or any other altcoins price is volatile and decentralized. No one can predict when will these coins dump or increase but what we can do is to hodl our coins for long term.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: charlotte04 on June 16, 2018, 01:04:51 PM
from january 2018, bitcoin price is always changing, a suddenly increased but after a second deep dropped will surly exist. it is the vise versa of bitcoin price last year (2017). until now the price of bitcoin from january upto now (june) is still dropping. so i was wondering if theres a group of people behind this bitcoin price drop?

Yes, if those person have some huge Bitcoin in their hands they can actually make a lot of manipulation about since because crypto market is so decentralized.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: deadsilent on June 16, 2018, 01:19:40 PM
Yes, it happens. Whales are manipulating the market. They have the power to influence the price because they have the biggest amount of Bitcoin at their pockets. Just by selling huge amount of Bitcoins, it affects the price of Bitcoin and create panic which can lead to massive sell out which makes the price crash. The whales are getting the benefits of it because they are gonna get cheaper Bitcoin and makes huge profit. Sometimes they're making fake volumes to attract traders and dumps when they think they get profit. This is very hard to control since they've got large portion of the supply.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: coin163 on June 16, 2018, 01:36:49 PM
from january 2018, bitcoin price is always changing, a suddenly increased but after a second deep dropped will surly exist. it is the vise versa of bitcoin price last year (2017). until now the price of bitcoin from january upto now (june) is still dropping. so i was wondering if theres a group of people behind this bitcoin price drop?
In my opinion bitcoin and Crypto market 100% under manipulate by some people /group. It's market to small to against price manipulate


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Prodigan786 on June 16, 2018, 01:57:58 PM
Based on my understanding there is whale group involved in market manipulation while market price was 7500 and  also  total marketcap 320 billion stable for 2 weeks . Till now it was common once market goes to stable state more than week next pump was starting but this time some body moves his 95000 bitcoin to exchange then big crash happened .


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: purple.thoughts on June 16, 2018, 02:43:51 PM
I think, the cause of its unpredictable price is also because of its users. I think the population of people who uses it and transact with it are the reason behind its value. I am not really sure but I think that goes that way. Specially those who invests a lot to it.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: tegarp90 on June 16, 2018, 02:46:42 PM
from january 2018, bitcoin price is always changing, a suddenly increased but after a second deep dropped will surly exist. it is the vise versa of bitcoin price last year (2017). until now the price of bitcoin from january upto now (june) is still dropping. so i was wondering if theres a group of people behind this bitcoin price drop?

I'm not sure if it's totally manipulated.
But we can deny, the one who has thousand bitcoins can pump and dump the market, But it's not manipulated, just because they're who has thousand bitcoins is powerful enough to control the market.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: pawanjain on June 16, 2018, 03:03:27 PM
Bitcoin has come to this price from scratch and it is obvious that there are thousands of people who are holding it from a very cheap price as compared to now.
Thus there are many people who can manipulate Bitcoin's price. There are some rumors as well that a group of early investors who hold the majority of BTC keep manipulating its price to extract the profit out of the investments. So yeah, Bitcoin can still be manipulated by others.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: ThePogi on June 16, 2018, 03:24:14 PM
Price manipulation is an almost natural process in global markets but is very common in the US markets. Price manipulation happens constantly, just before corn was being used to make ethanol at a high scale the price was forced down vis a vis us government forcing corn growers to destroy crop or sell at a lower point to certain companies (for a tax break). Then after 1 big company was ready to sell their ethanol, corn price skyrocketed (from less corn being available from the crop destruction plus company buy offs to create the ethanol they are ready to sell). We see something similar when Asia countries buy scrap metal, when they start buying we raise the price, once they are done we drop the price of scrap metal. I honestly think there's many companies trying to lower the BTC price and it's just causing the price to down it faster.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Lampaster on June 16, 2018, 03:36:00 PM
Price manipulation is an almost natural process in global markets but is very common in the US markets. Price manipulation happens constantly, just before corn was being used to make ethanol at a high scale the price was forced down vis a vis us government forcing corn growers to destroy crop or sell at a lower point to certain companies (for a tax break). Then after 1 big company was ready to sell their ethanol, corn price skyrocketed (from less corn being available from the crop destruction plus company buy offs to create the ethanol they are ready to sell). We see something similar when Asia countries buy scrap metal, when they start buying we raise the price, once they are done we drop the price of scrap metal. I honestly think there's many companies trying to lower the BTC price and it's just causing the price to down it faster.
There are always additional reasons that allow you to manipulate the price. Now the demand for cryptocurrency has really decreased. This provoked the whales to turn the trend. Whales are added to your coins in the sale when the Manager started to sell the coins the bankrupt mtgox exchange. This provoked panic and falling prices. As soon as the whales will stop trading the price will go up.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: rumexx on June 16, 2018, 04:10:37 PM
There is this saying that the whales are always manipulating the price of bitcoin in the market by pumping the market with enough bitcoin to push down the price and the whales then will sell off all their holding and re enter the market to buy at much lower price thereby making some massive profits.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Marlo Stanfield on June 16, 2018, 05:05:05 PM
I think the idea that there's a select few 'manipulating' the price is probably a bit far-fetched. The overall supply and demand of such a big market is going to be what produces the main movement of the market. It's possible with things like Tether that there is actual manipulation. But outside of Tether I doubt there is too much.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: abhi777 on June 16, 2018, 05:23:46 PM
from january 2018, bitcoin price is always changing, a suddenly increased but after a second deep dropped will surly exist. it is the vise versa of bitcoin price last year (2017). until now the price of bitcoin from january upto now (june) is still dropping. so i was wondering if theres a group of people behind this bitcoin price drop?
I think not someone but a bunch of bitcoin price movements depending on the investors behind it all


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: TianaStam on June 16, 2018, 05:27:20 PM
Price of every coin can be manipulated. I guess there is no one who would not know the word 'whale' and it's meaning in economic. There are people or organizations which own the big number of coin and in the moment when they will decide to sell it it may bring some changing in the price.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Msile on June 16, 2018, 05:29:37 PM
Of course the Bitcoin price could be manipulated by others, mostly it's just whales. The Bitcoin market is one of the most heavily manipulated market in the world due to no regulatory over watch. But this manipulation is what brings volatility in the markets and this is what attracts most of the people.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: chaser15 on June 16, 2018, 05:34:49 PM
from january 2018, bitcoin price is always changing, a suddenly increased but after a second deep dropped will surly exist. it is the vise versa of bitcoin price last year (2017). until now the price of bitcoin from january upto now (june) is still dropping. so i was wondering if theres a group of people behind this bitcoin price drop?

Not a literal manipulation but others just carried away. For example, a big whale/s can shake up a market by 10% to 15% in just single move then others will follow resulting into success triggering of that action. Include also the news associated with every dump. So overall we can't just based the price fall because of manipulation but for other factors as well.

2017 trend is a pure hype. Good thing price decrease happened in 2018 so that we can test what is the real price where support is really strong.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: felixesteban on June 16, 2018, 05:43:36 PM
It's clearly visible.There is absolutely manipulation in the price of bitcoin and it is necessary to fight seriously against these people. Exchanges and governments can cooperate if it is necessary and they must impose sanctions on manipulators, otherwise Otherwise, development of this market will be interrupted.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: piebeyb on June 16, 2018, 05:44:35 PM
this is just my opinion, 2018 is the same as in 2014, you may need to explore a little what happened in the year 2014 also see the price analysis in that year, I think you will find the answer why bitcoin prices will tend to fall until early next year


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: binarhingar on June 16, 2018, 05:49:02 PM
may exist, like the economic thing that exists in a country, there must be manipulation, in order to get a big advantage for the country itself, but hopefully this is for the sake of shared security, but I am not comfortable with this situation, bitcoint very young down some today, hopefully it gets better soon.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: allisonkeya on June 16, 2018, 06:32:21 PM
I think it has some people who are behind why the price of bitcoin is falling down, for example, they are realing holding their bitcoin and force anyone to get panic due to its low price, when someone sold their bitcoin in a lowprice, its their victory, but in the end those people who are doing those will sold their bitcoin in a highest price.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: batang_bitcoin on June 16, 2018, 10:09:31 PM
so i was wondering if theres a group of people behind this bitcoin price drop?
It was known that there are whales who are controlling the market.

But there's no way to find out on who are these people, you can get a hint on who are spreading FUD with medias. Getting interviewed and give their statement about the falling of bitcoin. Once they have said that bitcoin is going to be dead, they are pushing people to sell. And when the price goes down, they will start buying it.
US government is looking into this issue as they know how the manipulation happening here in crypto and it deals billions of dollars,but i doubt that they have the capacity to make this possible and pays those involves in this illegal activities.
Yes I have heard of that news.
US Justice Department reportedly opens criminal investigation into bitcoin price manipulation (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/24/us-opens-criminal-probe-into-bitcoin-price-manipulation-bloomberg.html)

I won't question their effectiveness in investigation's, they will have hard time of doing it but who knows if they will be able to find out who are the ones that are responsible for the manipulation.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: ladydark on June 16, 2018, 11:59:04 PM
from january 2018, bitcoin price is always changing, a suddenly increased but after a second deep dropped will surly exist. it is the vise versa of bitcoin price last year (2017). until now the price of bitcoin from january upto now (june) is still dropping. so i was wondering if theres a group of people behind this bitcoin price drop?
Yes I think that the whales are deliberately trying to bring down bitcoin price so that they could buy more cheaper coins.We could see red candles in the price chart which shows clearly that huge dump is going on.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Dod Ong on June 17, 2018, 04:32:35 AM
from january 2018, bitcoin price is always changing, a suddenly increased but after a second deep dropped will surly exist. it is the vise versa of bitcoin price last year (2017). until now the price of bitcoin from january upto now (june) is still dropping. so i was wondering if theres a group of people behind this bitcoin price drop?


I think the bitcoin price cannot be manipulate by others because the market is the only one that can manipulate the bitcoin price. Either the other people can help to manipulate it, in just using bitcoin. The demand of bitcoin is the one of the problem of bitcoin. I think if the demand of bitcoin increase also the bitcoin price increase.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: PINAGPALA on June 17, 2018, 04:44:42 AM
I just read some article that some billionaire doing that in korea i forgot the link and i dont know if its true but. i think yes bitcoin si manipulated by billionaires


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: bilal_jan321 on June 17, 2018, 04:56:03 AM
from january 2018, bitcoin price is always changing, a suddenly increased but after a second deep dropped will surly exist. it is the vise versa of bitcoin price last year (2017). until now the price of bitcoin from january upto now (june) is still dropping. so i was wondering if theres a group of people behind this bitcoin price drop?

Seeing the enormous growth of 2017 correction was inevitable and that's what crypto market is undergoing right now. Up and downs are normal, there is no market that only goes in the upward direction.
BTC is decentralized and distributed currency and cannot be controlled by few individuals, but over the period of time we have Whales in BTC that have the major chunk of BTC and they have the capacity to manipulate the market up to some extent.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: 20_JeRRy_20 on June 17, 2018, 05:01:18 AM
bitcoin manipulates only the thirst of people in a short time to get a record return on investment. How will the value of BTC grow further and when it reaches the ceiling, no one is taken to judge yet, but many experts are sure that the day when bitcoin will collapse will come.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: laiya94 on June 17, 2018, 05:08:08 AM
There is no such a thing called impossible but it is hard to control BTC price by a single party due to the size of total supply.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: vonnyaries on June 17, 2018, 05:10:49 AM
i think to manipulate bitcoin need a big money to dump and pump the value because as we can see that the price of bitocin is too high to buy 1 bitcoin they need 6500++$  to dump and pump bitcoin? i think they need big money ti buy more bitcoin


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: hugeblack on June 17, 2018, 05:30:08 AM
Maybe this term is not correct I prefer to use words such as "Bumping price" because of the following:

 1. Lots of positive news: All the news spoke positively about the Bitcoin, and the continuous rise in the price enticed many to enter this market without thinking.
 2. Rapid price inflation: The price has kept the curve up for extended periods "a year."
 3. Hard forks and free money: The free money from the Bitcoin Gold and Bitcoin Cash has increased the price of bitcoin

And other factors that led to this wrong price and not direct manipulation.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Pursuer on June 17, 2018, 05:32:41 AM
short answer is: yes but it is not an easy task.

unfortunately when we talk about manipulation first thing people think about is either one of these two:
1- some big evil whale who simply clicks a button and price moves in his desired direction
2- any random small thing (even a comment) that is bullshit about bitcoin.

well they are both wrong specially the second one which we are seeing a lot of these days. you can't even put a dent in the market when you start a topic here talking nonsense out of your ass :D
and regarding the whales it is not as easy as you think specially when we are talking about bitcoin which has a much bigger market than the altcoins with their small markets and their controlled supply. it  takes a lot of work, a lot of money and it is very risky because a lot of money of the whale is at risk.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Ayaancool on June 17, 2018, 05:39:38 AM
All of them admitted there's no perfect solution to the problem. In the age of cryptocurrency, hard drives and personal computers have become the new bank vaults. And our real-world knowledge of protecting money from theft is not enough in the virtual world. The following suggestions can serve as a safety pamphlet for new cryptocurrency investors.
1. Before you open up an account on Coinbase [or other exchanges], set up an unique email that you are going to use for that account.
2. Make sure to set a really hard and long password, and you are the only one to access it from a piece of paper that you control.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: marcous on June 17, 2018, 05:39:43 AM
maybe, it could be yes. if someone has so many bitcoins can play the market. but this is a correction where the market and the investors or traders are made stressed by the state of the market. indeed in the year 2017 bitcoin increased dramatically and did not decrease in price, and in 2018 the correction happened.this is not a price manipulation issue I guess.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Hidden on June 17, 2018, 05:41:33 AM
of course there are people behind the decline in bitcoin prices but also bad news about the bitcoin that is widely circulated in the world make it less desirable to invest


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: kiemponxs on June 17, 2018, 05:44:08 AM
that is possible, because when bitcoin is not as expensive as it is now there are many people who call bitcoin can be manipulated by whales, and although now the price is quite expensive do not rule out the bitcoin can still be manipulated by large whales. who have a lot of money.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: absurde on June 17, 2018, 05:51:25 AM
We can say, cryptocurrency maket  included Btc  stil opens to manipulate.
Because crypto market is not stable  and unpredictable. Market needs regulation.
Some big holdes capable to manipukate. Distribution of Btc is not fair enough.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: qiman on June 17, 2018, 05:52:43 AM
Of course the price of Bitcoins and all cryptocurrencies are being manipulated by whales and cartels. I even as trying to trade my favorite token yesterday and a whale appeared with a huge sell wall, he ate all the panic sellers tokens and within ten minutes the wall was gone. So you see, whales build huge buy or sell walls according to where they wish the market to go and now we are in a big bear market they are trying to squeeze out all the little profits left by the newbies who are now capitulating and panic selling on every dip downwards.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: kasonudy on June 17, 2018, 05:56:32 AM
t is possible that bitcoin's price is manipulated by big whales here in cryptocurrency world market. Bitcoin's proce or any other altcoins price is volatile and decentralized. No one can predict when will these coins dump or increase but what we can do is to hodl our coins for long term.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Daday23 on June 17, 2018, 06:24:24 AM
from january 2018, bitcoin price is always changing, a suddenly increased but after a second deep dropped will surly exist. it is the vise versa of bitcoin price last year (2017). until now the price of bitcoin from january upto now (june) is still dropping. so i was wondering if theres a group of people behind this bitcoin price drop?
You wakeup my minds it made me think it is possible that behind the up and down of bitcoin price is their is a group of people contolling the price.Maybe it is possible but as far as i know bitcoin price is depend on the market.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Jessica2009 on June 17, 2018, 06:45:08 AM
  In the field of finance price manipulation is not a new one to hear it is a known fact even in stock market that  have not been eliminated from manipulation . Manipulation may also be a major interest in Bitcoin crypto ecosystem . A few years ago people were aware of Bitcoin they didn't even think about Bitcoin will become a valuable asset in the coming years and didn't even think that there will be any manipulation .


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Triwiyono on June 17, 2018, 07:00:31 AM
I think there's a group of people behind a drop in bitcoin prices, which might make bad news about bitcoin or anything else that could make bitcoin prices down. it was deliberately made so that anyone can buy bitcoin in large quantities and cheap price. maybe the bitcoin price will return like last year's price. so far, I keep thinking of bitcoin prices in manipulation.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: arief.sutono on June 17, 2018, 07:00:44 AM
Of course, I firmly believe that there are some individuals or groups of people who have an interest in influencing the price of Bitcoin. It has become a growing information in society because of the decline and rise in price Bitcoin has always been influenced by some issues about Bitcoin. In addition, it is also influenced by public trust, as more and more people trust Bitcoin then the price will increase. But do not forget the panic because it could have made a significant price change. panic will greatly make us become very depressed and it will also lower the market confidence in Bitcoin. Thanks


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Marlo Stanfield on June 17, 2018, 11:47:29 AM
We can say, cryptocurrency maket  included Btc  stil opens to manipulate.
Because crypto market is not stable  and unpredictable. Market needs regulation.
Some big holdes capable to manipukate. Distribution of Btc is not fair enough.

Distribution of BTC is pretty much as fair as it can be. Everyone in the world could have mined or bought BTC back near the beginning. It's not like it was a big secret. It was big news as far back as 2011.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: gizmodo1987 on June 17, 2018, 12:10:48 PM
There may be a group of people behind all these, but I think there is no way we will know that because electronic money is very unpredictable.

Yes this is really the nature of crypto currency its volatility and being decentralize that we will not know who are those playing behind the pump and dump of a coin or tokens. Those guys are holding million of dollars worth of cryptocurrency assets to play the crypto market.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Juggy777 on June 17, 2018, 12:30:08 PM
It's really cute people believe that one person or a group of persons can actually manipulate prices, if that was indeed the case the prices would have dropped to zero and then risen to one lakh or higher amount, it's all about demand and supply and which ultimately leads to mood in the marketplace which results in the prices going up and down.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: bitvalak on June 17, 2018, 01:16:50 PM
bitcoin prices are a reflection of the buyers in the exchange market. Large dumper can cause bitcoin prices to drop. Dumper is usually done by large traders, this means there are people who can play bitcoin prices.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Gastonic on June 17, 2018, 01:21:48 PM
Yes of course. Whales are billionaires. They have all the resources to create fud about bitcoin so that the price will be lowered and they can accumulate more bitcoin. That is why they played a major role in this market.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: crypto3644 on June 17, 2018, 01:34:54 PM
I do not think that the manipulation of the price of bitcoin, the price falls this year is normal, after the big rise last year the market needed a correction, many currencies were and are still overvalued


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Shamie1002 on June 17, 2018, 11:16:09 PM
I think it is not possible.
If a person has less than 1% of the total bitcoin in the circulation, then it is not possible to manipulate the market. But is a group of people holds about 10-30% of the total BTC, then movement can be affected very much.
The fact every user can be a factor will not make make a common mistake at the same time.
Not unless a multi billionaire dumps and buys for his own profits. That will be chaos.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: wahyu.prist on June 17, 2018, 11:51:14 PM
Of course, I strongly believe that there are individuals or groups of people who have an interest in affecting the price of Bitcoin. This has become an important information that develops in society because of the decline and rise in prices Bitcoin is always influenced by the waves. In addition, it is also influenced by public trust, as more and more people trust Bitcoin then the price will increase. But do not forget the panic because it could have made a significant price change. panic will greatly make us become very depressed and it will also decrease trust in Bitcoin. Thanks


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Phinoy on June 18, 2018, 02:07:07 AM
many people say that FUD is causing the crashes and hype the rises, they are correct but something that  i think needs pointing out is the fact that people think FUD is simply whenever someone starts some bullshit topic on a forum and starts talking shit about bitcoin. NO that is called trolling not FUD. and people who are doing it are newbies who have no understanding of the market.

It can't be manipulate by others like  Tether seems to be used both to stabilize and manipulate Bitcoin prices,” finance professor John Griffin and co-author Amin Shams wrote in a paper released Wednesday.

Questions about Tether and Bitfinex have dogged the cryptocurrency world since last year, when Bitfinex lost banking relationships yet continued to operate. The U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission subpoenaed both firms in December, seeking proof that Tether is backed by a reserve of U.S. dollars, as it claims. Tether and Bitfinex haven’t been accused of wrongdoing. So it's our own duty to always be watchful enough to our bitcoin it is sometimes like this when government has been involved but bitcoin will always be strong hold for this particular problem.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Dudeperfect on June 18, 2018, 02:42:59 PM
Yes, it is the open secret that big whales and institutional investors were pouring the capital in the market when the price was trailing at lower levels in order to exploit the situation. Then when they decided to take the exit from the market, it resulted in a correction of 65%. Bitcoin market is still not mature enough to deal with such situations and hence the group of people with high amount of capital can manipulate the market.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: BlasterS on June 20, 2018, 09:04:52 PM
No the bitcoin cannot be manipulated by any people because the bitcoin is not controllable by specific peoples. The demands of the public dictates what and when will be the price in the market.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Vart4varta on June 20, 2018, 09:30:57 PM
Bitcoin is a purely digital asset and is not physical in the sense that oil or gold. But, like these commodities, he trades around the world. It is the constant bargains between buyers and sellers on crypto-exchange exchanges that determine how many dollars are worth one bitcoin. This is what traders call the spot price of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: ambisyon on June 20, 2018, 09:47:57 PM
I would say yes, I think  these people are the whale investors manipulating the price of btc for a long time creating fud and negativity about btc.  Once btc goes down trend,  these whales again buy more btc's and will wait again for it to pump then sell at a higher price whereby gaining more profit.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: syarifudin on June 20, 2018, 10:22:31 PM
which I know if the price of bitcoin can decrease it because there is bad news news about bitcoin, that's what I know how you think


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: atorle on June 20, 2018, 10:26:50 PM
There is currently an investigation being carried -out by SEC on price manipulation of bitcoin last year.It is said that the price manipulation accounted for up to 50 percent of price movement time.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: levvv on June 21, 2018, 02:28:57 AM
I think yes, it can be manipulated. If some big organization own large amount of bitcoin, then they can make bitcoin price down by dumping their coins.
They will lose their money but money is not a problem for them. Later they can buyback if peoples start to panic selling.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: makutu on July 03, 2018, 02:49:36 AM

BTC prices can totally be adjusted, their bitcoin and forced anyone panicked by its low price, when someone sells their bitcoin in a lowprice, winning


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Sithara007 on July 03, 2018, 03:04:09 AM
It can be manipulated by the others, as we are witnessing for the first 6 months of this year. First it was government action by South Korea and India, followed by the negative media coverage. After that it was the mass dump by the Mt Gox trustee (Nobuaki Kobayashi).


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: PonyBoy on July 06, 2018, 09:13:51 AM
I guess, yes. I think very clever persons could manipulate with the price on bitcoin through the information. And in dependence of this information, peopla buy or sale thier bitcoin, as a result the price rise or fall down.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: BelieveInBTC on July 06, 2018, 09:26:43 AM
Whales started to play with Bitcoin some time ago after it got a lot of attention from the media and ordinary people looking for quick cash. Cryptocurrency market is not as big as many people think and it's fairly easy to manipulate the market if you have billions of dollars. There are many bankers who are against cryptocurrencies and want to get rid of them or slow them down.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: EffahTom on July 08, 2018, 10:09:48 PM
The price has always been manipulated. It might not be intentional but the demand for it and the number on sell order determines whether or not the price will increase.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: jpespa on July 08, 2018, 10:14:53 PM
Maybe some of the veteran users of bitcoin are behind the sudden dump and pump of bitcoin price. As we all know that if large scale of bitcoin selling happens the price decrease intensely to the point that even the demand can't make up for the loss. Now that those large seller gained their money they will buy again large bitcoins as the price falls then wait again for the effort of those small-time investors to increase the value.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: millgates on July 08, 2018, 10:26:01 PM
from january 2018, bitcoin price is always changing, a suddenly increased but after a second deep dropped will surly exist. it is the vise versa of bitcoin price last year (2017). until now the price of bitcoin from january upto now (june) is still dropping. so i was wondering if theres a group of people behind this bitcoin price drop?
In this early phase of adoption even an investor sentiments of investors who hold more than 10000 btc can influence bitcoin price. Those whale are make the market sentiments is not stable. So in my oppinion, bitcoin price is being manipulate by some whale. Need a few decades to see bitcoin price stable, when bitcoin is spread evenly.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Prince Malik on July 08, 2018, 10:30:04 PM
Unfortunately yes but the worst thing is that investors affected by the panic that spreads by those people finish by selling their bitcoin and lose a great profits


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Elachious12 on July 08, 2018, 11:05:21 PM
The whales are the cartel in the Crypto market manipulating the price of bitcoin, is so unfortunate that we keep experience dump for this long, 6 months gone and the price is still low.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Eric Medeiross on July 13, 2018, 04:57:36 PM
If you're talking about the price drastic decrease, the manipulation is partly a reason.
As for price manipulation, it has actually happened and big whales are those pulling the strings. With a great amount of Bitcoin, they are able to control the price by spoofing and washing trade.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Sharon Borgess on July 13, 2018, 05:08:56 PM
I agree with you at the point that manipulation has contributed to Bitcoin dramatical drop. But I'm of the opinion that the sharp correction Bitcoin has gone through is also due to many other factors like the lack of legal grounds, fear of high volatility, financial crimes etc.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Marlo Stanfield on July 13, 2018, 05:13:47 PM
Whales started to play with Bitcoin some time ago after it got a lot of attention from the media and ordinary people looking for quick cash. Cryptocurrency market is not as big as many people think and it's fairly easy to manipulate the market if you have billions of dollars. There are many bankers who are against cryptocurrencies and want to get rid of them or slow them down.

If it take billions of dollars as you say then that is still pretty robust. It wasn't too long ago that million dollar sells and similar orders had people panicking.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Nicholas Ferreiraa on July 15, 2018, 01:08:13 PM
Absolutely. Bitcoin price is manipulated for sure. The lack of strong regulations and legal grounds enable those holding a large amount of cryptos to manipulate cryptos' price. You can see, even in the stock market, which is under strict regulations from government, the manipulation of stocks still occurs, not to mention the unregulated markets like Bitcoin market.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: harimauagam on July 15, 2018, 04:52:59 PM
bitcoin prices are almost 100 million more and can not reach 200 million more than now and why so many people are now investing less.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Man From The Future on July 15, 2018, 11:13:08 PM
It is very difficult for me to say that this is the work of a group of people. It could possibly happen. There may be a group of people who deliberately try to make the price of bitcoin down. On the other hand this is also the normal nature of bitcoin, because the demand for bitcoin is currently declining. Likely later bitcoin price can directly soar. I think the bitcoin price is influenced by one's belief in bitcoin.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: tabas on July 15, 2018, 11:15:07 PM
We will not know who are the group of people that are manipulating the bitcoin market, if there's any. I always believed that it's only caused by supply and demand but it seems yeah there's manipulation.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Louvre on July 15, 2018, 11:24:45 PM
I think yes. bitcoin price is manipulated by millionaires or whales as most people called them. who knows who they are, names is not linked to any accounts.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: AniviaBtc on July 15, 2018, 11:26:25 PM
More than people in my opinion its the events that is responsible for the change in the bitcoin price manipulation.

 Please learn more about the market movement... MARKET IS VOLATILE. anything can happen at any given time, market price value can goes up and goes down dependent on the Volume of Investment posted in the market by the investors, There a lot of indicators that affects the price movement, like the issues on Banned, Scammer, Hacker's, and the never ending issues on Regulation by the government financial institution whom critical to Bitcoin Digital transaction in the market. We have no hard evidence to support such claimed that someone is behind the Bitcoin price manipulation. All are just an SPECULATION....


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: domains4 on July 15, 2018, 11:33:25 PM
Yes, it can be. We heard about big whales names and their activities. They can manipulate the bitcoin market, They are very good at it. I heard, in Binance exchange, big whales manipulate the crypto price occasionally. But, it is for a limited time. They can't manipulate the bitcoin price for a long time. I really want to know why bitcoin market can't up again and what is the reason behind it.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: omorfi on July 15, 2018, 11:45:44 PM
The biggest mistake we make is trying to measure the value of bitcoin with other currencies, especially dollars. The value of a bitcoin is always 1 bitcoin. I can hold it for years without doubt!


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: airdrophunter on July 15, 2018, 11:51:50 PM
Bitcoin manipulation has been a hot topic already since bitcoin started to fall down after it hits 20,000$. I don't think it can be manipulated by just the demand of the people because you can't control people's mind. But for those big fish or whales that crypto experts say about, then i think they can because they are the ones holding big volume of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: dificanovi on July 16, 2018, 12:19:34 AM
bitcoin prices can be manipulated by others by making bad news and countries banning bitcoin, therefore bitcoin prices may change. bitcoin prices are falling because some countries and banks ban bitcoin, they ban because bitcoin can be used as a place where criminals make transactions.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: squallw on July 16, 2018, 12:31:29 AM
Yeah im sure that Bitcoin is currently under manipulation.
Some theory says that the big players want to buy a lot of bitcoins but they don't wanna pay high prices, so they are manipulating now and dumping the price to the ground and at right time they will buy $bilion/$trilion and pump bitcoin to the moon

And i have no doubt it is manipulated from december 2017 to now it is like -70%, this is too huge dump to be a natural correction.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Arumi.Bilqis on July 16, 2018, 01:12:09 AM
manipulation can occur in various businesses until a company that has grown and dibitcoin very many people who try to manipulate it can use it as a forbidden business transaction so bitcoin will experience an uncertain price change can change at any time.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: smartbitcoininvestor on July 16, 2018, 01:15:36 AM
The Bitcoin price is not random. There are a few factors that play a role.

The supply and demand of Bitcoin is one. Big whales can come in and purchase a large amount and hold them indefinitely. Also, the current price of the fiat dollar is another one that has nothing to do with Bitcoin's value itself, but can affect the price.

Lastly, the media can be a manipulator of demand and thus drive up or crash the price.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Janeterrekg on July 16, 2018, 01:22:01 AM
For me to answer this question in my opinion, my answer is no. It is not that the people directly manipulates the price of the Bitcoin but the supply and demand in the Bitcoin of the users of this crypto currency. Moreover, situations are also the one that made have a change in the Bitcoin price somehow like the false news the spreading to the lots of people.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Fishthatgirl3 on July 16, 2018, 01:30:57 AM
It is being manipulated right now.
As you look at the chart right now, there is a lot of huge vertical candlesticks. Only people holding a lot of coins can make those big changes. They get benefits from making the price goes the way they want and buy and sell at any point they want.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Ava Duvall on July 16, 2018, 02:27:32 AM
I have personally heard of manipulation in markets like LIBOR to FX. others think that miners are affecting the price. overall, its hard to say about one or the other but the prices are being manipulated at some point


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: BLAST2MARS on July 16, 2018, 02:53:43 AM
Yes and the banks control or pay the media to ruin the image of bitcoin. I remember that there was a month that there were only FUD after another but when there is good news, it was never discusses. Media manipulate ordinary traders and they lose confidence and withdraw it to  fiat.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: AlexAtom on July 16, 2018, 06:40:18 AM
from january 2018, bitcoin price is always changing, a suddenly increased but after a second deep dropped will surly exist. it is the vise versa of bitcoin price last year (2017). until now the price of bitcoin from january upto now (june) is still dropping. so i was wondering if theres a group of people behind this bitcoin price drop?

Yes it could be. If you have many coins in your possession, you can make the market price up and down with your coin.
Manipulators want to make us panic buying or panic selling our coins, so they can buy with lower and sell with higher price in the market.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: ajiejot on July 16, 2018, 07:34:44 AM
Big YES. It is happening right now, for my own opinion. It is true that price of Bitcoin is manipulated by some big time business person right now. There is article called Bitcoin Cartel, which it is really stated and well explained how Bitcoin is manipulated.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: opendata on July 16, 2018, 08:17:14 AM
Yes bitcoin price can manipulated by other mostly big whales or groups who are holding most of bitcoins they make fall down market and make panic most of investors and then they buy their bitcoins and then sell in profits when market will up but we need to more aware about bitcoin market exit and entry time because right strategy give us good profit.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: PonyBoy on July 16, 2018, 12:25:52 PM
I think that the real bitcoin manipulates are the whale, because compared to the previous one, now prices are likely to cause a big wave, and there is no bad news, or good news will lead to large fluctuations. It is only the market.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: 0t3p0t on July 16, 2018, 01:01:11 PM
from january 2018, bitcoin price is always changing, a suddenly increased but after a second deep dropped will surly exist. it is the vise versa of bitcoin price last year (2017). until now the price of bitcoin from january upto now (june) is still dropping. so i was wondering if theres a group of people behind this bitcoin price drop?
Yes Bitcoin prices can be manipulated by whales or group of people who wants to gain good profits. As of now maybe there is a manipulation going on but it could also be a natural occurrence in this cryptocurrency industry. Manipulation can be a good way of earnings either for us ordinary people or to those who are behind the event. Volatility is one of the reason why we get profits either hodling or trading Bitcoins or any other tokens or coins.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: manismanja on July 16, 2018, 01:55:54 PM
yes of course bitcoin can and very easy to manipulate, you just need so much capital so you can move bitcoin price all over the world. because I see MTGOX can implement that way, they can make the bitcoin price to collapse.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Mezze on July 17, 2018, 03:48:09 PM
yes of course bitcoin can and very easy to manipulate, you just need so much capital so you can move bitcoin price all over the world. because I see MTGOX can implement that way, they can make the bitcoin price to collapse.

Yes, whales and big exchanges manipulate the market all the time. There's nothing you can do about it. If you have enough money you can do anything and they have enormous amounts of money.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: sergiom on July 22, 2018, 08:40:56 PM
from january 2018, bitcoin price is always changing, a suddenly increased but after a second deep dropped will surly exist. it is the vise versa of bitcoin price last year (2017). until now the price of bitcoin from january upto now (june) is still dropping. so i was wondering if theres a group of people behind this bitcoin price drop?
I think there is a group of people who are behind the fall in prices for bitcoins, which can lead to bad news about bitcoin or anything else that can lead to lower prices for bitcoins. It was deliberately made to allow everyone to buy bitcoin in large quantities and at a cheap price.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Oceat on July 22, 2018, 10:38:15 PM
from january 2018, bitcoin price is always changing, a suddenly increased but after a second deep dropped will surly exist. it is the vise versa of bitcoin price last year (2017). until now the price of bitcoin from january upto now (june) is still dropping. so i was wondering if theres a group of people behind this bitcoin price drop?
You haven't here before, aren't you? Bitcoin is prone of manipulation and any other crypto-currencies, even the fiat currency is prone too of manipulation. No matter what we(people), made there will be someone that will make an advantage of it for their own benefits. It sucks btw, but we couldn't do anything about it, that's why we gotta have to ride it all along.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: ocid on July 23, 2018, 04:15:27 AM
from january 2018, bitcoin price is always changing, a suddenly increased but after a second deep dropped will surly exist. it is the vise versa of bitcoin price last year (2017). until now the price of bitcoin from january upto now (june) is still dropping. so i was wondering if theres a group of people behind this bitcoin price drop?
You haven't here before, aren't you? Bitcoin is prone of manipulation and any other crypto-currencies, even the fiat currency is prone too of manipulation. No matter what we(people), made there will be someone that will make an advantage of it for their own benefits. It sucks btw, but we couldn't do anything about it, that's why we gotta have to ride it all along.
yes, bitcoin price movements can easily be manipulated by people who have large capital to influence market price movements, it can certainly be exploited for personal gain so they can easily make a profit by manipulating market price movements.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: stasiulman on July 23, 2018, 04:40:51 AM
According to some press and rumors, about 40% of all bitcoins belong to 1000 users. At current prices, each of them may want to sell about half their assets, Moreover, whales can coordinate deals or report them to the circle of the elect. Many of the large bitcoin owners have known each other for years and believed in cryptocurrency in the early years when the majority only ridiculed it. Therefore, whales can potentially negotiate to crash or raise the market.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: liutiaoming1 on July 30, 2018, 08:59:36 PM
I do not think that this is really possible, since bitcoin is decentralized, nobody affects it. Governments and politicians can not change the price. It does only supply and demand on the market. The price of the next day depends on them.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: Ikay on July 30, 2018, 10:42:42 PM
There's a group of hackers in different country that hack all the exchanges site to manipulate bitcoin prices they are the one's that manipulate bitcoin's value so bitcoin can manipulate the deep of it so we can do is find those hackers and spread the good side about bitcoin to rise it again.


Title: Re: Is bitcoin price can be manipulate by the others?
Post by: liseff3 on July 31, 2018, 07:07:31 AM
The bitcoin price movements in years 2017 and 2018 are very different, by 2017 bitcoin prices continue to experience significant month-to-month growth, while the bitcoin price movement in 2018 its price continues to decline and this decline has begun since January 2018. Three months ago, precisely after the G-20 meeting bitcoin prices had experienced growth although only a few percents and survive in a very short time however eventually the price declined again. Furthermore on June 19, 2018 bitcoin prices experienced a slight increase, unfortunately the decline occurred again, bitcoin prices pressed to reach $ 5.600 - $ 5.890. I feel at that time there was a bunch of individuals who were trying to push down the bitcoin price to go lower under $ 6.000.