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Title: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: german1080 on June 17, 2018, 07:04:34 PM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: huntingbtc5 on June 17, 2018, 07:21:45 PM
I dont think that new tokens will put impact on the value of Bitcoin that much. There are some already established Altcoins that may effect the price of bitcoin but ICO or new tokens will put minimum effect. Rather it will strengthen the cryptocurrency community and altcoins along with bitcoin will be more popular. 


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Bourney001 on June 17, 2018, 07:29:30 PM
It can put more impact on eth price when the projects will start downfalling


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: piebeyb on June 17, 2018, 07:42:50 PM
I'm happy to hear this thread, I think it's interesting that there are a lot of people out there who enjoy ICO investment and I prefer to work as a bounty worker to collect bitcoin in my wallet, I do not sell it to date and buy it when it's really cheap from My personal money, I am also sad many ICO scam cases that spend a lot of investors money and very unfortunate, hoping no further ICO scams in the future


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Marlo Stanfield on June 17, 2018, 07:49:50 PM
ICOs hurt Bitcoin in the sense that they associate Bitcoin itself with all of the various scams and garbage investments thaat ICOs represent. There's probably not much direct impact, but it terms of public relations and the general public's perception of crypto and Bitcoin there's likely a lot of damage.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: pawel7777 on June 17, 2018, 07:58:26 PM
This belongs to 'speculation' board: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=57.0

As I wrote in some other thread recently - Yes, ICO can, and likely do have negative impact on BTC price. The mechanism is simple, devs raise funds (in BTC/ETH etc) during the ICO, then they'll have to eventually dump all, or most of it, for fiat money, driving the price down.

But there's more than that. Most of tokens/altcoins have the highest trading volume in BTC pairs. That gives BTC a utility, a practical use which drives the price up.

Similarly, there could be a lot of people who would only buy bitcoins just to be able to participate in ICOs, so - positive effect on the price.

There's no way to make a definite and fair judgement without looking deeper and considering all the factors. Personally, my gut feeling tells me that without altcoins/tokens, Bitcoin wouldn't be where it is right now (price-wise).



Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: bstewart on June 17, 2018, 08:01:53 PM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?

I think that most icos are pretty much junk and I highly doubt they have any impact on bitcoin itself anyways. If anything it is bitcoin affecting the price of icos


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Cynooza on June 17, 2018, 08:11:56 PM
I don't think ICOs are hurting bitcoin directly. They just create more diversity and competition. Moreover, unlike bitcoin most of ICOs have particular narrow fields of application.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: mostkey on June 17, 2018, 08:17:18 PM
only ico are doing a scam that can hurt us or in other words make bitcoin price down. because of the many scams that do ico. it makes the invrestor afraid to buy btc as an investment asset in ico


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: 9jaflick on June 17, 2018, 08:17:38 PM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?
I don't see how ICOs projects hurts bitcoin price, in fact, with the large increased number of ICO project on ground, I was expecting to see bitcoin price increased base on it high number of demand from investors that want to use it to invest on ICOs projects.
But the reverse is the case.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: rosstiller on June 17, 2018, 08:23:59 PM
I dont think it will actually hurt bitcoin price. Most of the ICOs need BTC to buy and also ultimately it have to be exchanged with BTC. So I think ICO is putting positive impact on bitcoin.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Marlo Stanfield on June 17, 2018, 08:28:57 PM
I dont think it will actually hurt bitcoin price. Most of the ICOs need BTC to buy and also ultimately it have to be exchanged with BTC. So I think ICO is putting positive impact on bitcoin.

Maybe in the short term in 2017 it resulted in some capital inflow to BTC. But the fallout from countless scams and garbage projects that are resulting in almost zero real economic value is sure to come back as a stain on the reputation of cryptocurrency in general. It's just an absolute dumpster fire out there in the world of ICOs.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: godfredmanu on June 17, 2018, 08:30:57 PM
The assumption that bitcoin holders sell off their bitcoins to join ICO is false. It does not necessary mean that getting into ICO is selling a traders bitcoins. It can be a holder of bitcoin will invest his fiat direct by purchasing new bitcoin for ICO which will not affect his initial holding.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: GalahadSeika on June 17, 2018, 08:33:51 PM
I think that ICO thing is stretching out the ability of bitcoin as a cryptocurrency. And I think this will help bitcoin to promote itself in the whole world.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: blockman on June 17, 2018, 08:44:32 PM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin?
How it can hurt the price of bitcoin? These ICOs are requiring btc or eth for the payment if someone's interested of investing to them. There are some ICO that are totally worthless but some are helping with real contribution to bitcoin. They are making the demand higher and that's how you can say that they are not really hurting the price of bitcoin. It only gets slashed when there's too much manipulation and selling of it.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Dexion on June 17, 2018, 09:02:38 PM
what is your reason, so you think that every ICO hurts price of bitcoin?

is it because many investors are investing in ICO rather than in bitcoin? I think that every ICO does not affect the price of bitcoin. and bitcoin still has the credibility to maintain its value. New altcoin cannot compete with bitcoin.

so, that's not the cause of the falling bitcoin.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: blozo on June 17, 2018, 09:06:12 PM
It depends if these are new money going into crypto to buy ICOs or people using their existing ETH or BTC to buy into ICOS... Then new legit projects will benefit crypto as whole


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Blackrain13 on June 17, 2018, 09:27:01 PM
   In my opinion ICO's could help bitcoin price to increase because the investors who joined ICO's and buy tokens from them will use bitcoin or ethereum which means bitcoin become more useful in that way. Bitcoin is always present if we talk about tokens from ICO's and even in trading.It hurts the people and not the bitcoin directly if the ICO is a scam or their project failed.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: palle11 on June 17, 2018, 09:41:48 PM
Hey... I don't understand what OP is saying here, about ico pulling bitcoin down? I mean how?

It won't in anyway affect it but rather help it grow more because it is used as means of payment for the coins.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Remainder on June 17, 2018, 09:57:19 PM
Bitcoin is getting stronger even if their's so many altcoins competitors that every months is created and this not affect the value of bitcoin and eventually it makes bitcoin more stronger.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Yaunfitda on June 17, 2018, 10:00:25 PM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?

Yeah, it could probably have a impact on the price of bitcoin because investors are now shifting their funds to some ICO and would rather take the risk there (which doesn't make any sense at all) than put their money on bitcoin ecosystem.

It depends if these are new money going into crypto to buy ICOs or people using their existing ETH or BTC to buy into ICOS... Then new legit projects will benefit crypto as whole

Obviously, there's no money flowing to the bitcoin ecosystem, but you will see a lot of ICO's hitting their softcap in a matter of days which led me to conclude that people are liquidating their bitcoin and join ICO project.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: elwiswoodie on June 17, 2018, 10:09:32 PM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?

from where can you conclude that ICO is affecting the price of Bitcoin?
I think that is not a problem for bitcoin, it will be the entrance for the crypto community to be able to connect with other friends
ICO uses its own coins, and is different from bitcoin


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: sham100899 on June 17, 2018, 10:14:42 PM
I don't think that ICOs has a major impact in the price of bitcoin. tokens from ICOs are called bitcoin alternatives, but for me bitcoin has a larger impact on altcoins as we can see if bitcoin goes down all altcoins price will also go down.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: astrid.uchiha24 on June 17, 2018, 10:17:49 PM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?
Well actually ICOs can really affect bitcoin's price on a very positive way, like they can boost bitcoin's popularity as long as these ICOs are conducted very well and legit at its end, depending on a situation but i believe if the governments can reduce the number of fraud cases involving ICOs i think cryptocurrency will get the trust of the people once again.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Reatim on June 17, 2018, 10:25:15 PM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?

I don't think that it can affect the price of bitcoin. Its much riskier to put your money in ICO rather than bitcoin. So as a investors, I will still stick to bitcoin and have most of my money on it than ICO that can turn into a scam at the end. What really hurt bitcoin is the attacks from governments and regulations around the world. Plus some ICO doesn't really give that much returns as well as least say investing on bitcoin. So with that said, ICO doesn't have significant effect on the price of bitcoin.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Indrawan77 on June 18, 2018, 12:26:42 AM
I don't think it can hurt bitcoin, but somehow it affecting the bitcoin a little bit, when a good ICO coming out. the investors will diversify their investment and causing less demand in bitcoin, but in the end after they get the profit with ICO, the investors will back to bitcoin, bitcoin itself got a huge support and big transaction volume so, even with some investors diversify their investment, bitcoin will still stand strong


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: mikahmax on June 18, 2018, 12:32:15 AM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?
Aws I've know, new ICO's didn't affect bitcoins value because they are not the same. What I mean is, yes maybe they are related to each other but they are different tokens nor coins. New ICO and new tokens or coins is their way to implement and intruduce to other the new coin.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: boss1dg on June 18, 2018, 02:02:49 AM
Why ICOs will hurt bitcoin , even i think More good projects are must have for any market to attract more people and make large market . bcoz those project will do partnership with big brands on basis of their tech and it will help crypto market also bcoz more people will be interested in it .
only concern for people who are afraid from ICO is bitcoin dominance getting reduced and profitability also reduced , earlier they could gain x10 in a year but now bcoz of more project dominance reduced so profitability is lowered than past . but in no manner this market dip is related to ICOs .


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: mrcash02 on June 18, 2018, 02:13:09 AM
Considering people use AltCoins from these many ICOs that are launched all the time to speculate and make faster profit than with Bitcoin, I think they are hurting BTC price a bit, yes. During the ICOs the funds are gathered via BTC, but after the ICO people will hold the AltCoins, decreasing Bitcoin demand, hurting its price. With so many AltCoins options there will be less demand for Bitcoin, that is clear and immutable in a decentralized world.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: @rt27 on June 18, 2018, 02:28:49 AM
I don't have any idea if there are icos that regarding bitcoin because as far as I know it was done already. What the normal icos in the market now about altcoins. That is what we can see


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Tylev on June 18, 2018, 02:30:08 AM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?
In my opinion, it's even foolish to say that carrying out ICO projects can somehow harm the bitcoin because in the process of this the ICO team takes bitcoins, which can then be exchanged for fiat and, thus, it helps to lower the bitcoin rate. Is the use of bitcoin as a means of payment not the main function of bitcoin? Artificial increase in the price of bitcoin, that is, deliberate actions aimed at raising it, are much more dangerous than using bitcoin for its intended purpose. Increasing the price of bitcoin inevitably leads to his death.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: tung06081989 on June 18, 2018, 02:52:08 AM
there are so many ICO day by day but the BTC is so strong with whole market,BTC is leader of crypto market now,maybe many next year there are many coin grow up and share effect of BTC with crypto market,now i beleive it is eth


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: bitvalak on June 18, 2018, 02:53:09 AM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?
ICO will not affect the bitcoin price, but bitcoin prices will affect the price of the ICO project. Because if the bitcoin price drops, it is certain that ICO will be quiet because people are panicking with the decline in bitcoin prices.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: libert19 on June 18, 2018, 02:55:32 AM
I believe these ico's do affect price to some extent. Like when ico companies sell funds to liquidize (usually these funds are in millions).


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: etron on June 18, 2018, 03:05:34 AM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?
I do not think so and in my opinion the emergence of new ico can strengthen the value of bitcoin because when bitcoin is decreasing we can be flesh in other altcoin like: BTC / ETH, BtC / BCH and other coins.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: ZeXXX on June 18, 2018, 03:08:58 AM
I think it will affect to bitcoin price because some investors will interest to join ICO eventhough not all of them, and bitcoin users little bit fewer cause of that ICO, but the ICO is not really need to be worried because people rarely interest on ICO, the thing that should be worried are the exist altcoins.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: vonnyaries on June 18, 2018, 03:14:27 AM
yes ICO right now is the popular one, because the developer can use ICO as media for make their idea come true, and of course its not makes the bitcoin price is down, otherwise it will make the bitcoin price is going up, why? because it will makes the people that want to invest in that ICO buy bitcoin for the payment media


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Dr.Osh on June 18, 2018, 03:16:30 AM
I think it is normal to see many bitcoins invested in each ICO project, because ICO always receives bitcoin as its investment tool, and it is targeted for crypto users. well, it is a normal thing, even this is a habit that started since the ICO was there.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: dutchkay on June 18, 2018, 03:23:38 AM
ICO are realliy affecting the market price in a big way. Rather than putting money in an already established coins out there people are investing in ICO and these affect the market prices. Most of these ICO are scams which keep taking millions away from investors. These have turn to pump and dump and investors are always looking for new ones to put money, then dump it and move to the next one.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: nguyet91btc on June 18, 2018, 03:25:27 AM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?
I suppose there are many ICO projects that will increase the value of btc because when these projects listed markets, the alt / btc pairs trade more than eth / btc.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: DavidCallahan on June 18, 2018, 06:06:16 AM
I don't think it can make any difference in the price.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: VasiloviKola on June 18, 2018, 09:58:51 AM
I am always looking on ICOs at www.icoguide.com, this web has real rates and I need not to go to each ICO, as they have basic info on home page. And I am starting to follow or invest in case if I notice good project. There were some periods when I did not like anything, sometimes there are some good ideas worth to look at.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: levvv on June 18, 2018, 12:59:20 PM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?

Not really, it can be the opposite, when ICO exist, investors will buy bitcoin to contribute in those ICOs.
If they using bitcoin to contribute, bitcoin price will be increasing surely, not be hurt.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: mineko on June 18, 2018, 01:05:13 PM
It is true that since icos the bitcoin price has dropped steadily, and maybe next year bitcoin will be back to setabil again, and do not be afraid or lose.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: chuyenhl15 on June 18, 2018, 01:20:36 PM
almost ICO are scam today, bitcoin is king


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Ahsan Aly on June 18, 2018, 01:27:35 PM
I don't think so this is the reason of Bitcoin decreases day by day. You can see that one bitcoin was valued @ 19k according to coinbase during ICO's, and ICO did't effected on Bitcoin value. If we admit that ICO's has been influenced over Bitcoin value but it does't mean that ICO's will be destroy Bitcoin value. Our good wishes with investors. Hope for the best !!


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Cryptocb on June 18, 2018, 01:36:24 PM
They are many ICO created every week and also getting updates every day on the coin market, which is not the same function as bitcoin. Therefore bitcoin price falling is not a function of alt-coin created, because each coin has his on purpose, that can not compare to bitcoin.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Louise0910 on June 18, 2018, 01:41:57 PM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?
Does ICO affect bitcoin prices? Yes, the only things happen when a lot of ICO launches every day if bitcoin is the main currency to buy ICO the circulating supply of bitcoin would be less and the demand will spike.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: mommysean on June 29, 2018, 02:18:46 AM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?

i don't think so, it can be the opposite.
because if the investors using bitcoin to contribute in ICOs, bitcoin price will be more increasing.
it won't be hurting.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: mika11 on June 29, 2018, 03:07:02 AM

ico is essential for this market but because too much ico was born but there is no real application so i thought it would be just junk ico and would not live long. These ico platforms will develop in the future but it takes time.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: worldsuccess01 on June 29, 2018, 03:14:49 AM
Will as I understand between ICO and bitcoin is not the same position because bitcoin is part of any forum introduced the products of any bounty campaign and otherwise the ICO will only  commit the campaign end if it will be success.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: bkrobottc3 on June 29, 2018, 03:32:19 AM
I don't think so. The more ICO use bitcoin to raise, the more increse of price of bitcoin. I am talking about token sale process, not after list on exchange.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Rrtt on June 29, 2018, 04:12:23 AM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?



I think we would  thank to all ICOs,Joining in different icos is one way of increasing the price of bitcoin therefore ICO is essential in the market,icos are not hurting bitcoin, helping instead.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: teterinal on June 29, 2018, 12:08:42 PM
the new coins will probably have just a small effect on bitcoin. others altcoins and other established crypto will have more impac. the new coins will just make the crypto community more popular.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: coinnumber on July 10, 2018, 04:00:49 PM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?



I think we would  thank to all ICOs,Joining in different icos is one way of increasing the price of bitcoin therefore ICO is essential in the market,icos are not hurting bitcoin, helping instead.
Most of the ICOs used bitcoin wallet for their sales and investors will use bitcoin to purchase those ico coins I think is improvement to bitcoin price not a disadvantage because it makes the demands high since without bitcoin investors can't buy the ico coins. The thing I think is affecting the price of bitcoin is the way we talk negatively about bitcoin which is creating fear in mind of those who are not in the system.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: vickybitcoin on July 10, 2018, 04:07:17 PM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?
Well i dont think the same, bitcoin continues to dominate the cryptocurrency industry, if and so the rice drops at bitcoin the ICO are good divertion though so it works just fine to me.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Dacosta Osei-Tutu on July 10, 2018, 04:11:12 PM
I think you are right. Most of the investors in those ICOs might have invested in bitcoin if those coins were not there. They also decrease the percentage of bitcoin on coinmarketcap


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: HertzCoin on July 10, 2018, 05:12:55 PM
There are a lot of services such as Shapeshift and Changelly which make it possible for ICOs to just integrate a widget which will enable investors to buy in any currency(including fiat) they want. That bassically alleviates the problem with bitcoin for ETH or NEO based ICOs.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: boakyei on July 10, 2018, 05:17:15 PM
I somewhere agrees, since most of the ICOs demand bitcoins, the investors will sell off their holdings in bitcoins to purchase tokens in ICO. This sell off affect the Bitcoins price. In other way, people can invest a fiat directly into ICOs without affecting bitcoins price.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: domasal on July 10, 2018, 05:19:34 PM
If the ICO is good then it might even have a positive impact on bitcoin prices due to high demand for those that don't take fiat. However, the project might need some fast cash and dump the coins asap. Hard to answer this question accurately


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: lamcouz on July 10, 2018, 05:26:33 PM
For those who are investing in the market they have fear for their investment its normal but they are not cowards I think because everyone have their own purpose and their own goal and this market is falling so it’s a matter of fact so everyone is fear for their investment type.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: romeo111 on July 10, 2018, 06:57:15 PM
I can't think like you that ICOs are hurting directly, they just offered to create more diversity and competition moreover , unlike bitcoin most of ICOs have particular narrow fields of application.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: tony kurniawan on July 10, 2018, 07:04:46 PM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?

Bitcoin has a limited amount and it can make bitcoin survive because so many people want bitcoin. Despite a lot of ico every month, but that does not really affect the bitcoin value.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Chacon994 on July 10, 2018, 07:07:15 PM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?
In every ICO project created every day, only one or two projects are potential. And when there are so many ICO scam, investors will lose confidence in the ICO, and certainly, the price of BTC will also decrease.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: braZZers123 on July 10, 2018, 07:31:15 PM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?
Thinking that iso can hardly affect and especially reduce the price of bitcoin, especially with the current situation, when the whole market is bottom.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: perla on July 10, 2018, 07:57:49 PM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?
ICO can give good affect for bitcoin, more ICO more coins more trader and circulation of bitcoin can be happen but will be different if ICOs not success, investor will bored and back to invest in bitcoin only and they can hold their coins for better price


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: maxamus on July 10, 2018, 08:05:41 PM
If the ICO is good then it might even have a positive impact on bitcoin prices due to high demand for those that don't take fiat. However, the project might need some fast cash and dump the coins asap. Hard to answer this question accurately

It can go either way as you have rightly mentioned it's little tough to answer this question accurately as far as my understanding about ICO's if the product or service which they have to offer is good then surely it will be a hit regardless of bitcoin value.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: bkrobottc1 on July 10, 2018, 08:26:56 PM
I think if there are many ICOs occur, demand of bitcoin will increase, so the price is increase too. Specially in the end of 2017, MLM project make price of bitcoin on top


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Nonie on July 10, 2018, 09:38:07 PM
i think it is not very effect because ico can also be bought using bitcoin so automatic invstor also buy bitcoin to buy ico. but, for big investors I think bitcoin is still the top choice to invest when compared to ico


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: akram143 on July 10, 2018, 09:42:16 PM
If the ICO is good then it might even have a positive impact on bitcoin prices due to high demand for those that don't take fiat. However, the project might need some fast cash and dump the coins asap. Hard to answer this question accurately

There is no big difference between the investment of Bitcoin and ico us if the Bitcoin Falls the ICU also had same investors so we made some other decision before investment but the decision we made after investment is different so be stable with your investment.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: brightamo on July 10, 2018, 09:49:12 PM
There is no proof that ICOs are flourishing in the cryptocurrency market are the causes of bitcoin fall. Bitcoin is true used for payment for most ICOs but to think is the cause of it is just a speculation.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: r32godzilla on July 10, 2018, 11:18:20 PM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?
Yes it could have an effect on bitcoin price but only to some extent.New investors who don't remain steady in one place only would mostly jump to ICOs from bitcoin.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Roukawa on July 10, 2018, 11:45:32 PM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?
I don't see any problem in bitcoin when ICO arises. In fact, it may help for the community to go strong unless if a certain ICO is a scam. Therefore, we need to eliminate the scam ICOs because they are the mimicry of this industry. ICOs are innovation and it helps a lot in bitcoin as well as in cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: gonlavy on July 11, 2018, 06:25:50 PM
I don’t think that ICO will affect bitcoin much. Rather it will make bitcoin popular. And the field of BTC can increase.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: posi on July 11, 2018, 07:41:30 PM

I don't see any reason why the huge amount of new ICOs will hurt the Bitcoin market or price if the ICOs are genuine ICO and they only thing could the bitcoin or cryptocurrency market is only if the ICOs are scam which could lead to investors quitting the market just like we see in some  south american countries.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: macartem on July 11, 2018, 07:45:35 PM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?

Yeah, I think they can. Because now many ICO are created by scammers for easy money extraction. This is wrong, and I think that we need to fight this


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Korkorjkk on July 11, 2018, 08:21:38 PM
I dont think introduction of new ICO's will affect the price of bitcoin. Other altcoins like Ethereum are affected by Botcoin pricr and not vice versa.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: stewert on July 12, 2018, 01:53:39 AM
Yes, I think the price is also against bitcoin price by issuing the new ico ico. The reason, because many others use bitcoin, although bitcoin is hard to beat.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Genosx on July 13, 2018, 06:59:54 PM
For me bitcoin and the ICO is trusted business in this industry by the public,
but always remember there’s a lot of scammer that spread out and ready to search for a victim. Just be careful.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: gbccoin on July 14, 2018, 05:44:30 AM
I don’t think that ICO will affect bitcoin much. Rather it will make bitcoin popular. And the field of BTC can increase.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: indrakusumaindra on July 14, 2018, 06:12:25 AM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?
I do think with ICO it would help bitcoin price increasing, right now you can join ICO by using dollar which mean more money entering cryptocurrency and i do think this good thing for bitcoin and other coins, the problem is if the ICO is scam and it would make new investors lose interest in crypto world and with many ico coming out it means the demand of bitcoin increasing cause ICO used to accept bitcoin and ethereum.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: yansen on July 14, 2018, 06:25:34 AM
I do not think like that. ICO does have positive and negative aspects. in terms of the positive growth of ICO is proving how the growth of blockchain technology in the world of crypto currency. and making more and more blockchain technology known worldwide. besides that ICO gives opportunity to investor to make profit. but on the negative side, ICO is currently 70% failing. we can see from the first release in the market until the next 5 months the price is not able to return at the rate of ICO. this is so bad. besides that many ICO is only for scam.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: huhhuh18 on July 14, 2018, 06:43:30 AM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?
Oh naa in my perspective i don't think so. I'd have loved it if you'd really give us a ticker reason for your your argument. I can base on that to make some conclusion but to me, i don't think they hurt Bitcoin's price. The only way I can say they affect is that they have made people put their money in other coins other than everyone joining Bitcoin, but anyway Bitcoin still determines the price of these coins on the market.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: pendekar cinta on July 14, 2018, 08:51:28 AM
The more ico in circulation I believe will have a positive impact on someone in the affairs of looking for income because ico often gives a large income to the participants when they are successful.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: tegarp90 on July 14, 2018, 09:28:39 AM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?

No it won't, not many ICO is really good and has a lot of investors.
Investors nowadays is really careful of choosing an ICO, so the many ICOs is not mean bitcoin price will go down


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: cetald on July 14, 2018, 09:34:32 AM
ICO does not affect the course bitcoin. ICO on the contrary, give impetus to the development of the cryptocurrency market and solve the problems of society. Investing in ICO is investing in business.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Wall_Streeet on July 14, 2018, 09:40:38 AM
those people who even if they will create a Scam, still the same money will invest in cryptocurrency. so will not damage


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: kissme09 on July 14, 2018, 09:43:58 AM
It does not affect the price of Bitcoin because investors are involved in the ICO because they want to find a profit and increase the number of Bitcoins they own. So ICOs do not negatively affect the price of Bitcoin.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: doreraj on July 14, 2018, 09:48:12 AM
suppose it pretty much depends on where money is coming from
is the a from new markets fiat etc
or just out of other crypto assets


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Kathleen Martinss on July 15, 2018, 03:42:19 PM
I think the number of  ICO per month will not affect the price of Bitcoin


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Arceusz on July 17, 2018, 04:54:01 PM
I think bitcoin and ICO are in demand business in this kind of industry
because they are trusted company to the public because their quality of service is proven to the public because they are one of the best.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: maucial on July 17, 2018, 04:58:10 PM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?

I think they are 2 things disconnected. Bitcoin should be in every investor's wallet, but taking part in good ICOs can make you earn a nice profit.

There are many interesting projects to check out and others not, so it's important to choose wisely.

Looking at the project as a whole and looking at the team behind it, is very important to make a correct decision.

If I can give you guys my opinion, I discovered an exciting ICO that is very interesting: RAWG.

Check out this great article by Sergey Ulankin, RAWG's Editor-in-Chief, where he explains what has been done so far and what will be the future updates:

https://medium.com/rawg/wp-bits-5-vision-and-current-state-69127bfbeb2a (https://medium.com/rawg/wp-bits-5-vision-and-current-state-69127bfbeb2a)

The ICO will start in a short period and they are at the moment in pre-ICO phase. This is the ICO site: https://token.rawg.io (https://token.rawg.io)/. It's a video game discovery platform that converts your skills into goods and services (the site is already working, with more than 57,000 games in the database) and, which is very interesting, they have already reached the soft cap.

Have a look and get some information while doing your own research!

Another interesting point: RAWG has already secured $5m USD, halfway to hard cap of $10m!


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Semenpaliy on July 17, 2018, 05:01:43 PM
The concept and purpose of this project is very good. This is the foundation that explains the benefits of this project in the future. I hope the development team can do their best at every opportunity to make this project grow into a great and rewarding project for many people. https://konios.com/


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: RakknRoll on July 20, 2018, 05:29:10 PM
Bitcoin and ICO are the best  that you can have because through their great performances in this kind of business you can earn a good amount of income or profit that can sustain your needs.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Mery Gason on July 21, 2018, 08:20:16 AM
The government wants to control this industry very much. Herein lies the whole problem. And because of this, the entire scope of the crypto currency is only at the basic stage of its development.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: doge_shit666 on July 21, 2018, 08:24:50 AM
The value of the BTC affects the price of the Altcoin. Therefore, the value of the ICO does not affect the price of the BTC. ICOs cause diversity and competition on the market. ICO value depends on the BTC value.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: sateyaam on July 21, 2018, 09:16:07 AM
I think what you say is not entirely true because according to my knowledge bitcoin price is not affected by the price of altcoin let alone ico, but instead the altcoin price is very depend on the price of bitcoin,


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Bharathi13 on July 21, 2018, 09:24:35 AM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?
I think the new ICOs are not hurting the prices of the bitcoin as the value of altcoin rises when bitcoin take the rally. alos on the other side we can say lot of altcoins from fresh ICOs are collecting huge amounts of funds and they are accumulating the price of ether and bitcoin. its obvious that the new ICOs have different different department in their employee structures and they also have to carry out their other works to like listing on exchanges, marketing, legal etc. for all these they have to give payments in BTC or ether and again this money can be returned on the markets. 


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: MikeyVeez on July 21, 2018, 09:27:02 AM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?

I think that it only affects Ethereum. Investors are investing their spared Ethers and ICOs are selling raised Ethers, that is why price is falling down too much.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Sevarchik on July 21, 2018, 09:35:22 AM
Bitcoin and ICO in different ways.
Of course it bring new funds to the field and increase interest of peoples to the blockchain but dont move price back


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: mithungee on August 03, 2018, 01:30:59 PM
suppose it pretty much depends on where money is coming from
is the a from new markets fiat etc
or just out of other crypto assets


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: werumkeq on August 06, 2018, 07:44:11 AM
They are numerous ICO made each week and furthermore getting refreshes each day on the coin showcase, which isn't an indistinguishable capacity from bitcoin. In this manner bitcoin cost falling isn't a component of alt-coin made, in light of the fact that each coin has his intentionally, that can not come close to bitcoin.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: cryptorecord on August 13, 2018, 11:41:46 AM
 I have not made such research. Because I don't think that a new token will affect the value of bitcoin. Because I only believe that bitcoin will not lose its value and for the future I also think if bitcoin is a guarantee of an old age that promises.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: princebridge7 on August 15, 2018, 04:47:00 AM
in broad outline it will not harm or affect the price of Bitcoin.
because Bitcoin flows like water coming down from the mountain to the sea.

Bitcoin has value from buyers and sellers, not from ICOs.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: commentsbit on August 15, 2018, 07:09:17 AM
I don't think that the ICO will have a bad impact on bitcoin. The rise and fall of bitcoin prices is influenced by several factors, such as negative issues and more sell than buy. Both of these factors are more influential for the fall of bitcoin prices.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: romeolopez21 on August 15, 2018, 09:49:37 AM
I consider that btc is muuch stronger, more profitable and promising cryptocurrency to beat the icos' popularity and it will also be increasing faster.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: idioma1 on August 15, 2018, 09:58:24 AM
I dont really think that ICOs have some impact on the value of Bitcoin. These small coins appear and disappear every day, thousands of them


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: S[m]OKE on August 15, 2018, 10:00:27 AM
I think that new coins can not affect bitcoin, now they do not announce anything at all and immediately drop


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: sarul on August 15, 2018, 10:10:12 AM
ICO affects bitcoin price is very little and likely not seen, Either will bringing good to bitcoin nor making the price of bitcoin worse, because what is widely used in the ICO is Ethereum even the Platform. So, bitcoin and ICO are really another thing, which have nothing to do.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: vual on August 15, 2018, 08:11:43 PM
They're numerous ICO produced each week as well as obtaining improvements every single day about the gold coin marketplace, that is different work as bitcoin. Consequently, bitcoin cost slipping isn't the perform associated with alt-coin produced, simply because every gold coin offers them purposely, that may not really evaluate in order to bitcoin.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Samohunk on August 16, 2018, 03:35:48 AM
Based on my own opinion, ICO always have positive and negative aspects. in terms of the positive growth of ICO is proving how the growth of blockchain technology in the world of crypto currency. and making more and more blockchain technology known worldwide. besides that ICO gives opportunity to investor to make profit. but on the negative side, ICO is currently 70% failing. we can see from the first release in the market until the next 5 months the price is not able to return at the rate of ICO. this is so bad. But again, we know that the key in this platform is don't panic and you'll gonna be alright.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: briton on August 16, 2018, 03:47:49 AM
I don't think it has anything to do with the prices between ICO bitcoin. Because despite the existence of the ICO, the number of altcoin be increased, but this certainly will have no effect on the bitcoin. It is also because during the bitcoin stands alone, while the altcoin is indeed kind lots.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: HarveyMatthews52 on August 16, 2018, 03:48:46 AM
I think the ICO projects are emerging more and more, in addition to good projects, there are many projects are fraudulent investors. There are many ICO projects out there, I think the value of Bitcoin and other alt might be affected a bit. But fraudulent ICO projects make investors invest in it withdrew, they just have to file a lawsuit against the government.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: gameofthronne on August 16, 2018, 03:52:58 AM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?

Nope, the amount of new ICOs is not affect the price of bitcoin. ICO is ICO, it will not affect the bitcoin price, even if the ICOs thing is dead, it will not affect the bitcoin price too. Otherwise, bitcoin is the one that will affect the ICOs. If bitcoin price fall, altcoins like ETH will fall too and it will affect the ICO.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: akishang on August 16, 2018, 04:00:33 AM
I disagree. I think new ICO's are just an alternative for bitcoin but it will never have an effect to its price. I think failed ICO's will just make other investors go back to bitcoin and its helping it bitcoin unconsciously. Also, the coin will be converted to bitcoin when they cash it out so in some way, its helping on bitcoin usage and dominance if the investor chose to hodl btc.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: MyAnh on August 16, 2018, 04:37:31 AM
I think the ICO does not really affect the bitocin price . Most of the ICOs need BTC to buy and also ultimately it have to be exchanged with BTC. Opposite ICO is putting positive impact on bitcoin.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: moviescrypto on August 16, 2018, 09:11:05 AM
I think here the more profitable is Bitcoin. like this ICO can have a good influence on bitcoin, more ICO coins more traders enter and circulation of bitcoin can occur and improve. But it will be different if the ICO does not succeed or fails. Investors will leave the ICO and return to investing only in bitcoin and they can hold their coins for a better price by waiting for the coin price to rise and they will sell it.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Mundo12 on August 16, 2018, 09:20:05 AM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?
ICO is becoming the trend for 1 2 this year. The first increase was seen earlier this month as Ethereum's price skyrocketed. When traders try to explain the rise in prices, they turn to ICOs as a reason for Ethereum's rising demand. After all, most if not all of the ICOs are stored on Ethereum blockchain because of the simple fact that with the ERC20 standard, both are not continuous and easy to release tokens through a smart contract. like Myetherewallet. ICO is affecting ETH but does not affect Bitcoin


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: fitraridwan on August 16, 2018, 09:27:29 AM
currently, there are many cases of ico that are a scam. if this continues then investors will be afraid to invest and that makes the development of cryptocurrency is slow. The scam case of ico must be avoided. by choosing a good ico, we can avoid the scam ico and can reduce the scam ico case.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Qulakji on August 18, 2018, 02:24:42 PM
I don't think so this is the reason of Bitcoin diminishes step by step. You can see that one bitcoin was esteemed @ 19k as indicated by coinbase amid ICO's, and ICO did't affected on Bitcoin esteem. In the event that we concede that ICO's has been impacted over Bitcoin esteem yet it does't imply that ICO's will be devastate Bitcoin esteem. Our great wishes with financial specialists. Seek after the best !!


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: ahasan909 on August 18, 2018, 07:09:14 PM
I don't think it can make any difference in the price.


They are many ICO created every week and also getting updates every day on the coin market, which is different work as bitcoin. Therefore bitcoin price falling is not a function of alt-coin created, because each coin has he purposely, that can not compare to bitcoin.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Helen1122 on August 18, 2018, 07:21:49 PM
Almost ICO now prefer to use ETH instead by BTC, so it can't say many new ICO effect to BTC price.
I think BTC price effect by:
1. Bad new about Bitcoin
2. Group of big shark control market
3. Many small investor loss in this market and don't have faith about this market -> withdraw they fund and leave
4. No more new investor join market.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: jins937 on August 18, 2018, 07:24:38 PM
I do not think that new ICO projects can harm bitcoin and affect its price.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Answer United on August 20, 2018, 01:32:26 PM
Icos are based on btc in its majority but I think it depends on their time of appearance because btc is the most experienced cryptocurrency on the market.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: MD Nur Hossain on October 05, 2018, 08:51:53 PM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?

They may be several ICO developed weekly and in addition acquiring revisions each day around the coin industry, which can be not similar be bitcoin. As a result bitcoin value dropping just isn't any operate regarding alt-coin developed, due to the fact each and every coin provides his / her deliberately, that will not necessarily examine to be able to bitcoin.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: Msile on October 07, 2018, 11:18:03 AM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?
I do think that the icos are hurting the price of bitcoin. My reasons are due to there being so many icos coming out, there are those who will not end up doing well and once they are done and not ready to carry on the project anymore, they dump their coins and take money out of the market, the more money they take out the more the price of bitcoin goes down


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: tranquangvinh on October 07, 2018, 11:42:52 AM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?
Now there are many ICO projects are scam out there , some of which are very potential for the future, I hope the scam projects will be less in the future, which will create more favorable for investors .


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: rasulibragimavic on October 07, 2018, 11:59:48 AM
I do not think that the ICO project as it can affect specifically bitcoin, I do not even see the connection or a hint of it. Bitcoin was and will remain the flagship.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: powerman24 on October 07, 2018, 06:30:59 PM
Huge number of ICOs can have both positive and negative impact on BTC but I think they effect ETH price much more.
They were responsible ETH price increase last year but for the recent downfall as well. ICOs are a big use case for ETH,
not the only one but the important one.If many  projects that raised millions fail, it will impact the ETH price as well.


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: nolestiket on October 07, 2018, 07:15:13 PM
I don't think they can.The dominance of bitcoin in recent years is only growing .I think large investors are looking at bitcoin only as an investment in bitcoin


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: GeorgeGriffin on October 07, 2018, 08:47:30 PM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?
I think everyone will have one question - how to create tokens on Bitcoin, which can be created in the case of using the platform based on ethereum?


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: lifesgood10 on October 07, 2018, 08:53:11 PM
I think icos actually deal more with Etherum
Because ico participants rarely deal with bitcoin
They focus more on Etherum as it is easy to get the tokens back via straight swap

Manipulations affect the prices more than dumping causes
Let’s all be careful


Title: Re: bitcoin and the ICO
Post by: djgtr on November 20, 2018, 09:47:51 PM
the huge amounts of new ICOS that arise every month could be hurting the price of bitcoin? you who think about the ICO?

I think that most icos are pretty much junk and I highly doubt they have any impact on bitcoin itself anyways. If anything it is bitcoin affecting the price of icos

Based on my gathering information it is not totaly junk but ra5her it enhance the capabilities and it prefers to become stronger one so that everything will be under control. Bitcoin as of this moment studies the standard way on how to gain trust by many and they started to set that latest info. so that it ill smoothly booming.