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Title: Would sending private message to lots of people for Airdrop resulting a Ban?
Post by: seantcm on June 19, 2018, 08:39:32 AM
Hi per the title, better ask before it happens. Thank you


Title: Re: Would sending private message to lots of people for Airdrop resulting a Ban?
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on June 19, 2018, 08:41:54 AM
I don’t know why you want to send private messages instead of publishing the airdrop on the proper board. I would say it would result at least in a warning but I’m sure some moderator will give you the proper answer later on.


Title: Re: Would sending private message to lots of people for Airdrop resulting a Ban?
Post by: Jet Cash on June 19, 2018, 08:48:21 AM
I certainly hope so.

If you send me a PM, then you will be the first member to get a red tag from me.


Title: Re: Would sending private message to lots of people for Airdrop resulting a Ban?
Post by: seantcm on June 19, 2018, 08:59:52 AM
I don’t know why you want to send private messages instead of publishing the airdrop on the proper board. I would say it would result at least in a warning but I’m sure some moderator will give you the proper answer later on.

The reason why is that the forum has so many threads and not all participants in other Airdrops will see it. So it might be good idea to send message to them privately because there is no public tagging system here..


Title: Re: Would sending private message to lots of people for Airdrop resulting a Ban?
Post by: Jet Cash on June 19, 2018, 09:03:07 AM
Maybe somebody should start an opt-in mailing list for new airdrops then.


Title: Re: Would sending private message to lots of people for Airdrop resulting a Ban?
Post by: LoyceV on June 19, 2018, 09:07:40 AM
The reason why is that the forum has so many threads and not all participants in other Airdrops will see it. So it might be good idea to send message to them privately because there is no public tagging system here..
That's called spam, and it is the reason Newbies can now only send 2 PMs per day.


Title: Re: Would sending private message to lots of people for Airdrop resulting a Ban?
Post by: hilariousandco on June 19, 2018, 09:07:49 AM
If it's unsolicited and they report the messages, then yes.


Title: Re: Would sending private message to lots of people for Airdrop resulting a Ban?
Post by: coinlocket$ on June 19, 2018, 09:55:14 AM
Actually I'm getting more and more PM spamming from users for bounties. (4 last week)


Title: Re: Would sending private message to lots of people for Airdrop resulting a Ban?
Post by: seantcm on June 19, 2018, 11:09:06 AM
Actually I'm getting more and more PM spamming from users for bounties. (4 last week)

That must have been due to the fact that you have registered to some of the bounty and you are identified as the interest group.

Anyway, it can be annoying sometimes


Title: Re: Would sending private message to lots of people for Airdrop resulting a Ban?
Post by: Lutpin on June 19, 2018, 11:09:45 AM
Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0)

29. Sending unsolicited PMs, including but not limited to advertising and flood, is not allowed.



Actually I'm getting more and more PM spamming from users for bounties. (4 last week)
As hilarious mentioned, report those PMs as unsolicited spam/advertising.


Title: Re: Would sending private message to lots of people for Airdrop resulting a Ban?
Post by: LoyceV on June 19, 2018, 11:25:21 AM
Maybe somebody should start an opt-in mailing list for new airdrops then.
Second that
I see a business opportunity, but I'd need a bot to send the PMs.
I can send 120 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2536728.msg25872334#msg25872334) PMs per hour, 1200 per day, to 30 recipients each. That's 36,000 recipients.
If I get my LoyceBot a Copper Membership, I can have 14 recipients per PM, 80 per hour and 600 per day (total 8,400 recipients).

I can imagine services would be willing to pay for this. Scraping an opt-in thread is easy. If someone can recommend a PM-bot (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4444647.0), I'll create an opt-in for airdrop PMs.


Title: Re: Would sending private message to lots of people for Airdrop resulting a Ban?
Post by: Jet Cash on June 19, 2018, 11:35:11 AM
I'm going to have to set myself up as a new projects consultant here 😎


Title: Re: Would sending private message to lots of people for Airdrop resulting a Ban?
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on June 19, 2018, 11:50:10 AM
I see a business opportunity, but I'd need a bot to send the PMs.
Are you being sarcastic? I will instantly report any PM coming from a bot.

I can imagine services would be willing to pay for this. Scraping an opt-in thread is easy. If someone can recommend a PM-bot (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4444647.0), I'll create an opt-in for airdrop PMs.
That's even worse. Basically, you will be paid for spamming PM's with unsolicited advertisements.


Title: Re: Would sending private message to lots of people for Airdrop resulting a Ban?
Post by: Jet Cash on June 19, 2018, 11:55:22 AM
Is it spamming if you are sending messages to an opt in list
I'd rather they did that than spammed the boards


Title: Re: Would sending private message to lots of people for Airdrop resulting a Ban?
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on June 19, 2018, 12:00:53 PM
Is it spamming if you are sending messages to an opt in list
I'd rather they did that than spammed the boards

Oh I almost missed that opt-in part. If members have subscribed for the service then it's totally fine to send them a PM.

@Loyce - The best way to do it without a lot of programming would be Selenium Web Drivers. I had a similar situation a few days back where I'm suppose to forward the same message to a number of contacts on WhatsApp. I used a Selenium Web Driver to open What'sApp Web which reads the contacts from a data file, searches them in the WhatsApp list,if found a message is sent to them.Took me about 3 hours to set everything up.


Title: Re: Would sending private message to lots of people for Airdrop resulting a Ban?
Post by: LoyceV on June 19, 2018, 12:04:45 PM
I see a business opportunity, but I'd need a bot to send the PMs.
Are you being sarcastic?
No. I think you've overlookd Jet Cash' quote: "somebody should start an opt-in mailing list".

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I will instantly report any PM coming from a bot.
Me too! That's why all PMs will show a link to the opt-in thread. To opt-out, simply delete your own post from that thread.

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I can imagine services would be willing to pay for this. Scraping an opt-in thread is easy. If someone can recommend a PM-bot (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4444647.0), I'll create an opt-in for airdrop PMs.
That's even worse. Basically, you will be paid for spamming PM's with unsolicited advertisements.
It won't be unsolicited of course. I didn't turn into a spammer after reporting thousands of spam bots (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3612774.msg37180866#msg37180866).

Is it spamming if you are sending messages to an opt in list
By definition it's not spamming after an opt-in.

@Loyce - The best way to do it without a lot of programming would be Selenium Web Drivers.
Thanks, I'll look into that. My ideal solution would work from the command line though, as it gives me most flexibility.


Title: Re: Would sending private message to lots of people for Airdrop resulting a Ban?
Post by: Jet Cash on June 19, 2018, 03:15:21 PM
Don't forget to send me my 15 percent if it starts to make money 🏛️


Title: Re: Would sending private message to lots of people for Airdrop resulting a Ban?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on June 19, 2018, 03:39:59 PM
You got your answer, OP.  Yes you can get banned for doing this, and don't think that people won't report spam PMs.  I've gotten a number of them and I think I've reported them all.  That's one of the things the mods take seriously on bitcointalk and one of the things that'll earn you a ban.  Just don't do it.

I've probably received less than a dozen spam PMs in the 3+ years I've been here, which actually isn't too bad.


Title: Re: Would sending private message to lots of people for Airdrop resulting a Ban?
Post by: seantcm on June 20, 2018, 01:41:25 AM
Ok noted with that. Thanks for all the feedbacks and advices =)