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Title: Blockchain.info Shared Send gone but Shared Coin still available?
Post by: Bitcoi2n2n on February 05, 2014, 05:41:17 PM
Hey,
I got a question:

Now Shared Send is gone from Blockchain. I heard they removed it due to money laundery. What I don't get is why Shared Coin is still available then since it basically is the same.

Can someone explain the difference of both and the system of how Shared Coin works? I never used it. I always just used Shared Send but now it seems like we have to jump on to Shared Coin to keep our privacy?


Title: Re: Shared Send gone but Shared Coin still available?
Post by: Sonny on February 06, 2014, 01:33:43 PM
Can someone explain the difference of both and the system of how Shared Coin works? I never used it. I always just used Shared Send but now it seems like we have to jump on to Shared Coin to keep our privacy?

It is indeed based on CoinJoin.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279249.0

Reply made by piuk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279249.msg3467698#msg3467698


Title: Re: Shared Send gone but Shared Coin still available?
Post by: BTCisthefuture on February 06, 2014, 02:45:45 PM
Is shared coin  ran by the same people who own/run blockchain.info ?


Title: Re: Shared Send gone but Shared Coin still available?
Post by: Bitcoi2n2n on February 06, 2014, 03:10:10 PM
Is shared coin  ran by the same people who own/run blockchain.info ?
Not sure. I hope so.
But even if not there has to be at least some kind of a partnership or something because some sites on Blockchain directly link to Shared Coin.


Title: Re: Shared Send gone but Shared Coin still available?
Post by: banaltcoin on February 06, 2014, 03:21:11 PM
Blockchain used to be a good money laundery company, you think they don't know Shared Send is using for money laundery when they build it?

Recently FBI pushed them very hard (Shrem arrested) that's why they deleted Shared Send and also start loging user's received and destination address of Shared Coin at system background. there is no needed to mix many transactions together, because Blockchain will just show all of your receive/send logs to the goverment when asked, the same will happen with Shared Send (if its still exist)


Title: Re: Shared Send gone but Shared Coin still available?
Post by: Bitcoi2n2n on February 06, 2014, 03:44:36 PM
Blockchain used to be a good money laundery company, you think they don't know Shared Send is using for money laundery when they build it?

Recently FBI pushed them very hard (Shrem arrested) that's why they deleted Shared Send and also start loging user's received and destination address of Shared Coin at system background. there is no needed to mix many transactions together, because Blockchain will just show all of your receive/send logs to the goverment when asked, the same will happen with Shared Send (if its still exist)
So we have to find a different company than Blockchain now?


Title: Re: Shared Send gone but Shared Coin still available?
Post by: banaltcoin on February 06, 2014, 06:50:15 PM
yes, we need more bitcoin laundery service and coin join service


Title: Re: Shared Send gone but Shared Coin still available?
Post by: Holliday on February 06, 2014, 06:57:08 PM
Blockchain used to be a good money laundery company, you think they don't know Shared Send is using for money laundery when they build it?

Recently FBI pushed them very hard (Shrem arrested) that's why they deleted Shared Send and also start loging user's received and destination address of Shared Coin at system background. there is no needed to mix many transactions together, because Blockchain will just show all of your receive/send logs to the goverment when asked, the same will happen with Shared Send (if its still exist)

That's a bit too many assumptions for me to be comfortable accepting without evidence. Have any?

Granted, it's probably safe to assume that any kind of centralized solution is not a solution at all.


Title: Re: Blockchain.info Shared Send gone but Shared Coin still available?
Post by: piuk on February 06, 2014, 07:21:02 PM
I heard they removed it due to money laundery. What I don't get is why Shared Coin is still available then since it basically is the same.

Shared Send wasn't removed for any specific legal concern, Shared Coin is replacing Shared Send as it is better technology which is more in keeping with the client side wallet approach. Blockchain is a software company not a financial institution and hence want to offer client side products only (No handling of private keys).

Can someone explain the difference of both and the system of how Shared Coin works? I never used it.

This is a good explanation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=325594.msg3697300#msg3697300.



Title: Re: Blockchain.info Shared Send gone but Shared Coin still available?
Post by: Krona Rev on February 06, 2014, 07:45:08 PM
I've read that the Dark Wallet team is implementing a distributed coinjoin. Is anyone else working on a distributed p2p version? I'm not on the forum often, so if anyone knows of links to forum threads about such projects, please post them. Thanks in advance.


Title: Re: Blockchain.info Shared Send gone but Shared Coin still available?
Post by: nanobit on April 12, 2014, 08:40:41 AM
Piuk: since Blockchain.info is not using nor offering Shared Wallet anymore, why can't you release the code? By open-sourcing it you would allow others to provide a service to the community that you refuse to offer anymore.