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Hello everyone We're a blockchain and crypto development team working on various projects. Our project coinist.io has had ICO ROI tools available for almost 8 months now, but we've never posted them on bitcointalk before. This week we've added the ability to sort ROI winners and losers based on categories which we think is pretty exciting. You can see the ICO ROI data here: https://www.coinist.io/roi/ (https://www.coinist.io/roi/)

We're currently in the process of adding many more projects to our database for analysis.

For the last year we've also been working on a blockchain project at https://hukaii.org. The goal is to bridge on-chain tokens with the off-chain value they represent. We've made a lot of progress with both of these projects over the last year and we hope you enjoy explore both in more detail :) 

All the best

Coinist.io Team

We've also have added the ability to filter projects by year to help filter out older projects who tend dominate ROI results. This allows you to filter to see new big winners from 2017, 2018 etc.

We've also added a video screencast today, which walks you through how to view, sort, and filter the data in the tables.

We hope you enjoy the additions!

Best.

Coinist.io

Oh okay. That's a nice initiative. I visited your site to check out the projects and I'm happy the overall statistics show that the average ROI is in green. This means if the market gets better, ROIs will even be better. Thanks for sharing that, amd please I'd love to see more coins added. Good job

Thanks Kwabeedat. Yes, overall statistics tend to look good when all projects from all time are viewed together. And yes, we're adding new tokens daily.

We have many free charts on our website. I encourage you to check them out here: https://www.coinist.io/charts/

The charts above show Biggest ICOs, ICO growth and we even have helpful crypto indexes that focus only on tokens (not currencies). We're currently creating screencasts to better explain some of the charts and indexes. I'll post an update in a day or two when they are done.

Thanks again!

thank you for info/knowledge shared by each and everyone. it is very useful for every newbie like me.

It's a great pleasure Logkalog! I'm glad you find the charts helpful. We're data geeks who work really hard to make charts like this for the crypto space, so we're always happy when we know our audience (fellow data geeks) appreciate the tables and charts.

@coinist_io

Nice! You have a great looking site with lots of useful information and statistics and all for free. Do you have any plans to make an moblie version or an app? I think this would be a great portfolio tool with all that info available.

Thanks for the kind words @sud. We'd love to make a mobile app, but our focus now is building up the desktop version first. We have many new ideas we want to incorporate into the platform to make it even stronger. Then once we have created a really strong foundation, we'll build a mobile app that connects to the data.

And yes, it's a great portoflio tool. We use the information ourselves for our own trading decisions and we've had some massive hits lately!

It's easier to make strong investment decisions when you have good data in front of you. That was the inspiration behind the platform in the first place.

Thanks again Sud

Awesome tool. It's easier to track the different ICO progress chart and I love the tool provided inside Coinist Pix tool. Thank you guys for giving all this data at once place. I'm very happy with this tool. Keep it up.

Too bad, dimcoin is top 5 at the moment as the biggest loser. 😫
Correct me if I'm wrong, this is the first site to have recorded ICO ROI, right?
One more question, how often does the rankings are updated?

Edited
Wait, as far as I remember, Dimcoin's ICO price was 0.01$ and at the moment, the price per DIM is 0.006 (according to the site). The percent loss should only be 40% and not 99.39%.

I've been looking for a much better and detailed version of 100buckscoins.com since someone made it, so far this site has exceeded my expectations. I hope you continue to update the site regularly.

@Maveth13 - Tahnks and yes we update the site daily. We have been working on this project for around a year now.

@xianbits - We're looking into the dimcoin issue you brought up. The issue with many ICOs is that they often sell through stages at a different prices (presale discounts etc). Not only that, most ICOs don't follow the exact same pricing structure. Some ICOs have one pricing tier, others have three pricing tiers, while others have 12 pricing tiers.  What we tend to do is look for the average ICO price to keep the data clean and create a strong ROI standard as a reference point.



I'm looking into the % issue you brought up with dimcoin and I'll post my update in a few minutes after we test.

@xianbits

Thank you for making us aware of the issue with dimcoin. The correct data is now showing. https://www.coinist.io/roi/?token_search=dimcoin

@xianbits - I forgot to answer one of your questions. You asked how often the rankings are update. The answer to the question is every hour.

Thank you for the work done, you created a very good informative resource for the crypto world.
This site shows missed opportunities for investment, I want to cry watching how the Nxt coin made 1,872,316.67% percent of the profit.

hahaha. @IgorShumilo. The NXT story makes many people want to cry. But I suggest you study the launch of the coin. It's actually quite an interesting and funny story. Quick history lesson: Nxt had an ICO in 2013. The ICO was poorly organized, appeared to many to be a scam, and raised just 21 Bitcoin. That’s 21 BTC in 2013 prices: about $6000. Small potatoes compared to the hundred million plus ICOs popping off these days. Nxt’s development team also went through considerably turnover and upheaval. Nonetheless, they’ve grown and survived to this day and their tech is awesome.

If you want to see the original NXT ICO thread it's here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303898.0

The people who actually gave money to this project won huge. But read the original thread. If this was posted today would you participate? The project founder states in the original ICO thread... "At the present moment development of the software is not completed.  While I’m working on it we should start the transfer process to decide who and how much coins will get.  This will be done by sending a small amount of BTC to my own address. "

The next post by the founder talks about a strange conversation with a police offer and then he goes onto say "I will reinstall OS on my computer and will disapear for a couple of days until I find other ways to surf anonymously but without Tor." The thread continues, but it mostly goes downhill from there.

So when you see huge ROI gains on NXT on our site, it's because not many people put money into it. The thread scared most people away. Of course the people who were crazy enough to give money, got a very good value on NXT they received when the founder actually did deliver the product AND the NXT platform turned out to be incredible tech. So at the end of the day, people who supported the project got rewarded for their risk :)

I'm not sure what the moral of story is but I'm sure there is a lesson in here somewhere. Maybe don't write off seamingly crazy things?

Happy token surfing!

@xianbits  - Sorry my previous answer was incorrect. We update the ROI data once / day (not / hour as I previously stated).

We were also just made aware that NEO ICO price was incorrect. That's also been fixed.

Hi coinist_io! Thanks for the attention to my concern.
I would agree in using the average ICO price but  maybe it's a lot of hardwork doing so since you also have to take into account the number of tokens sold for each tier or phase to get the exact "average price". My suggestion is just use the cheapest  or the most expensive ICO price for less work since this prices are pre-determined in the whitepaper.

About the "how often do you update" issue, I just noticed in the site that you have 1 Hour, 24 Hours, and Week column. Now I'm getting more confused since you said in your latest reply that it's updated "once/day" but you have this hourly rank. I guess the site is updated hourly. Please clarify further.

@xianbits - I'm going to have to double check this with my team but I think the other time frames (1 hour, 1 week, 1 month) etc show token price changes during those time frames. The ICO ROI stats (to the far right) are only updated once / day.

Great looking site and very good data which helps people see successful and unsuccessful ICOs. Keep up the good work!

@atutay - Thanks! Tonight we just published a video showing how to read our ICO index charts as well. I find our ICO Token index charts so valuable. These tools have been relied on in traditional financial markets and their absence in the crypto space frusterated us..... so we created the indexes ourselves. You can see our Coinist 25 Index here: https://www.coinist.io/25-index/ (https://www.coinist.io/25-index/)

Watch the video to better understand what the index is and how to to analyze the data contained within it.

I hope you enjoy this free tool as well :)

Thanks again.

Gracious alright. That is a decent activity. I went to your site to look at the undertakings and I'm upbeat the general insights demonstrate that the normal ROI is in green. This implies if the market improves, ROIs will even be better. This technique is really scientific. Such initiative will make the market more efficient.

@currencydesigner123 - Thank you greatly for your support. Yes, our goal is to bring financial charts and tools that are used in traditional financial markets and  bring them to the crypto space (indexes, tables, industry growth charts etc). The more data we have, the better. We're injecting new data into the system daily so be sure to bookmark the page and come back often :) Thanks again.

It depends on the market situation. I think forecast is not applicable for this market. But if everything remains normal investor can get $200. Now wait and see what happen.

This was a very informative post. The new innovative tool will be very helpful for everyone. Thank you for posting this.

@TomCarpenter - Our great pleasure. Thank you for taking the time to check it out. I hope you've bookmarked the tool :)

Wow this is really a good project, and will be so helpful for people to watch which icos have the highest ROI so based on that we can find any projects related to it

Thank You for telling about the tool. I didn't know about it earlier. I think this will be really useful for all.

@cryptohipo - Our pleasure. Thanks for checking it out!

Is the data on your database accurate, I have seen that covesting was one of the biggest winner on roi that has 34,560.17% change since the ICO. but then it's current marketprice was $0.7usd and it's ICO price was 1usd. please enlighten me.

@basesaw - I wish I could enlighten you, but I can't. You were right about Covesting. The information has been updated. Thank you for letting us know.

With Covesting, the data was just wrong. Plain old fashioned bad data entry. I'm looking into where that data was pulled from. But it's 100% our fault. If you ever catch a problem like this again, please let us know. We want the data to be as perfect as it can possibly be.

But the truth is, in most cases, entering "perfect" data in the ICO world is harder than you'd think. There are a few things working against us that we do our best to deal with. A few examples are:

1. Token prices during ICO are often priced in other cryptos (BTC, ETH). Due to token volatility, token purchase prices (In USD) during an ICO change dramatically.

2. Token sales usually have phases where tokens are offered to the public at different prices depending on the phase. To further complicate things, each phase often isn't weighted equally. In some phases more tokens are distributed than others.

3. There is no central site that stores all of this information. That's what we're trying to become. We harvest data from as many reputable sources as possible and try to present the data cleanly in one place. But the problem is, when looking at public data, there is often inconsistencies between published information. To make matters worse, published information often changes or gets edited (sometimes even deleted). For example, white papers or project websites say one thing on Monday and other thing on Friday.


We do our best to be as accurate as possible but in the ICO world it's not all science. For better or for worse, it requires a bit of an artistic approach as well :)

Again, thanks for letting us know about the issue.

I spoke about this issue with our data entry team and it looks like the issue was caused due to a "slip of the eye". Often immediately after an ICO, prices are shown in ICO_Token/BTC. What we do on our end, is find the avg price of BTC during the token sale to find the price of the token in USD. In this case, for some reason, after the conversion was done, the token price in BTC (not USD) was entered into our database. This is what seems to be the cause of the miscalculation.

Again, thanks for making us aware!

The site looks pretty good, it will be quite a useful source for both investors and hunters. Let's see what happens, I will periodically follow the updates.

I have Dimcoin tokens in my wallet and it pained me to see its continuing slide but then again I still have this strong faith that a time will come for its eventual rise as long as the team are still focusing on the roadmap of the project. This is one of the few projects that am banking on to have a good future...well maybe if not this year then am hoping by next year as I really have no choice but continue on holding as selling my tokens can be a big loss.

That's as strong faith as I have even from the beginning. One of my loved coins, too even if it has not yet shown some good rise. Another year of waiting would be fine (I think).
But, the good thing here is that Dimcoin is not on the top losers as it was corrected already by coinist_io.

@xianbits - Yes, we corrected the data so it shows up properly now. We're also in the process of re-scanning all data in site to make sure there are no other cases where data is incorrect.

Wishing you guys luck with Dimcoin!

It's on your choice. On the off chance that you think this contributes give you benefit then you can contribute on this undertaking. Be that as it may, I propose you before contribute you require re investigate about this venture.

We just finished making small adjustmetns on a few other tokens within our database. The data should be much cleaner now. But if you see any issues please let us know :)

thank you for this tool.
really appreciated. useful tool.
this help us to track our ROI.
 ;D

Quite a useful website, thanks for the link.

It's crazy to see that NXT has seen a 15 million multiplication in value, that's unbelievable. That must be one of the highest ROIs of any investment EVER, and I mean ever.

@onnz423 - Look back at page 1 of this thread. I posted a little history lesson, that I think most in the crypto space will find funny, regarding the reason behind such a huge ROI. In short, by today's standards, people would consider anyone who invested in NXT before it was developed totally crazy. On the first page of our thread I posted a link to the ANN of NXT. Read it for yourself. It smells like a scam :) It turned out not to be of course. But that's a big part of the reason for the explosive ROI.

@L0vebtc - Our great pleasure! Glad you like the tools. If you ever come up with ideas for new tools or ways for us to slice and dice data please let us know.

Nice webpage with ico returns and comparison, i think you should also develop some api sothat the data refreshes itself often according to the latest price on exchanges just like cmc is using some api to fetch data from exchanges.

@kindbtc - Thanks for the idea. We have a document where we write all user suggestions down. Your idea has been added :) Thank you.

This is just a small issue. What browser is the site very much compatible? I opened it again since you mention "if you see any issues" and I believe it would also help you improve the site in the future. I'm currently using Opera Beta browser and upon clicking the button at the top right, the pop-up window will look like this, please follow the link https://imgur.com/gallery/7toWoRj

@xianbits - Yes you're right. It's an issue with a transparent sub-menu in mobile format. Let us think about how to best address the issue. We will have it solved by today. I'll post an update once it's fixed and ask you to re-test if you don't mind :)

Thank you for making us aware of the issue.

Is the data on your database accurate, I have seen that covesting was one of the biggest winner on roi that has 34,560.17% change since the ICO. but then it's current marketprice was $0.7usd and it's ICO price was 1usd. please enlighten me.

@peterpan19z99 - That issue was resolved a few days ago. If you're still seeing that data I recommend you clear your browser cache.

That's a good initiative to take. I hope tjhis will encourage many investors to work with ICO.   

@IsabellaSophia - Yes, that's our goal. To help give people more in-depth and well rounded information that they can use to study from or make better decisions :)

The nice thing is that the crypto space, and ICOs in particular, have been around for long enough now for us to start making sense of some of the data. We work with the data every day but we still find it totally fascinating!