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Title: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: xtraelv on June 23, 2018, 12:09:33 AM
 Not sure whether this should be in the "alts" section. Since the trademark is for "Bitcoin cash".  ;D

Convicted fraudster Ronald Keala Kua Maria applied for the trademark of Bitcoin Cash, and calls himself Satoshi Nakamoto

Wants to charge 2% royalties for transactions over $800

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMahwybUUd4

http://satoshinakamoto.ws/

https://i.imgur.com/7kuvjvi.png

https://i.imgur.com/ZKqRGmH.png

https://i.imgur.com/i7upJG7.png


Fascinating that "Satoshi" doesn't know the difference between "bitcoin" and "bitcoin cash".

Knowing a bit about copyright and trademark law - the obvious flaws are quite amusing.

Now that the IRS know who the real Satoshi is.....


Satoshi would never write something like this:

https://i.imgur.com/IWI5X7m.png

Unfortunately for Ronald the real Satoshi could spell and was a meticulous writer.

The real Satoshi also owns around a million bitcoins - so wouldn't have to bother getting patents of charging a fee.



Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: Outsider07 on June 24, 2018, 06:26:45 PM
A convicted fraud named Ronald Keala Kua Maria calls himself as Satoshi Nakamoto and had applied for the trademark of the bitcoin cash. But there is so much confusion about it.


Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: TonyCharls on June 24, 2018, 11:04:58 PM
I feel really sorry to know this because in market there is fake product but now fake shatoshi based on this its really sad because we should know the real one also he doesn’t know the difference between coins also so its fully humor I think.


Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: shaw1 on June 25, 2018, 12:16:54 AM
I love how many people claim to be Satoshi.

But even more than that, I love just how few of them (zero) have managed to publicly, and fully verify their identity by signing the wallets from the beginning, that only Satoshi would have had access to.

These clowns just get less and less intelligent seeming. And the guy wants to charge a 2% fee on transactions over 800 dollars?
Yeah. That's why the man (or woman!) created bitcoin. They wanted just a better paypal, where the fees still go to a centralized figure.

That makes sense.
Need to ostracize these impostors, and make sure they know we are onto them. Nothing but 2 bit scammers.


Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: carles enck3 on June 25, 2018, 12:34:28 AM
Kua Maria also claims ownership of many domains of BCH related websites, such as thesatoshinakamoto.com, bitcoincopyrights.com, bitcoincashcopyright.com, bchcopyright.com, and others.

On these websites, however, visitors are redirected to the URL of the Kua Maria website, rkm.world, which offers “free basic plans”.
How about your opinion of Ronald Keala Kua Maria.


Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: cellard on June 25, 2018, 12:43:40 AM
Kua Maria also claims ownership of many domains of BCH related websites, such as thesatoshinakamoto.com, bitcoincopyrights.com, bitcoincashcopyright.com, bchcopyright.com, and others.

On these websites, however, visitors are redirected to the URL of the Kua Maria website, rkm.world, which offers “free basic plans”.
How about your opinion of Ronald Keala Kua Maria.

Domain name squatters are as old as the internet itself. As far as domain names are "first come first serve", then there's really nothing you can do about that. The fact that he claims to be satoshi doesn't give him special access to register anything above anyone else. He is just a troll.

I recently read how someone in uk registered the Bitcoin trademark and this would be a problem to sell merchandise with the bitcoin logo in there and so on.

http://bitcoinist.com/uk-based-company-secures-bitcoin-trademark-serves-etsy-seller-with-cease-and-desist/

This is pretty ridiculous but such is the trademark and copyrights world.


Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: pooya87 on June 25, 2018, 03:32:45 AM
I love just how few of them (zero) have managed to publicly, and fully verify their identity by signing the wallets from the beginning, that only Satoshi would have had access to.

that is a strange statement :)
there is no fully or partly verifying your identity, you either verify it or not and the verification is way too simple. for example by the time CW drama was ongoing, Charlie Lee (creator of LTC) simply signed a message from the LTC genesis block and posted it online for everyone to see and verify. it is that simple.
and there has been zero cases of proof so your in parenthesis zero is right not the "few" contradictory statement :P


Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: ZaoXhou on June 25, 2018, 03:39:22 AM
Ah ok, so he must be able to sign a few addresses satoshi was known to own.  ::)


Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: earnetheasy on June 25, 2018, 07:00:03 AM
Thank you for the informative article. I hope that it will clear the differences between Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash. I hope it will be helpful for everyone.


Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: Wind_FURY on June 25, 2018, 07:19:04 AM
Another trolling attempt from the Bitcoin Cash haters, and nothing to take seriously. But why would he stop there? He should register "Bitcoin Classic", "Bitcoin Unlimited", and "Bitcoin ABC" as his trademark as well. Hahaha.

Joking aside, the blockchain world is toxic. When did this "civil war" start, and who started it? Mike Hearn and Gavin Andresen during the "scaling debates"? I believe that issue should be over by now. Segwit was activated for the small blockers, and the big blockers have Bitcoin Cash.



Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: neymarjunior50 on June 25, 2018, 05:59:20 PM
This is not right. Bitcoin was invented by Satoshi Nakamoto. Bitcoin cash was fraudulently forked from bitcoin.


Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: Boldcom on June 25, 2018, 06:36:54 PM
Not sure whether this should be in the "alts" section. Since the trademark is for "Bitcoin cash".  ;D

Convicted fraudster Ronald Keala Kua Maria applied for the trademark of Bitcoin Cash, and calls himself Satoshi Nakamoto

Wants to charge 2% royalties for transactions over $800

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMahwybUUd4

http://satoshinakamoto.ws/

https://i.imgur.com/7kuvjvi.png

https://i.imgur.com/ZKqRGmH.png

https://i.imgur.com/i7upJG7.png


Fascinating that "Satoshi" doesn't know the difference between "bitcoin" and "bitcoin cash".

Knowing a bit about copyright and trademark law - the obvious flaws are quite amusing.

Now that the IRS know who the real Satoshi is.....





LOL!! Funny how this man named Ronald Keala Kua Maria is claiming he is Satoshi Nakamoto. I am not sure how this is going to affect bitcoin. How this is going to affect his life and his family?

see : https://news.bitcoin.com/i-am-the-real-satoshi-claims-hawaiian-man-after-filing-bitcoin-cash-trademark/


Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: ciciteng on June 25, 2018, 08:40:39 PM
This guy must be a joke! Or somebody that really hate Bitcoin Cash so much!  ;D
There was no copyright in open source community rather then "the authorship".
Even in the GPL license also mention about authorship rather than the "copyright".


Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: darkangel11 on June 25, 2018, 09:53:37 PM
Satoshi claims rights to Bitcoin Cash instead of Bitcoin? Roger must be so happy. His work finally gets acknowledged by the founder.
And he even wants money for every transaction. Why would a billionaire want a piece of some altcoin?
We should make a MMA cage fight so all these Satoshis can duke it out. First round Craig vs Ronald. The winner will face that horse faced lady that claimed Dorian was the real Satoshi :D


Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: Sandus_Cryptolover on June 25, 2018, 10:37:41 PM
I can only wonder how long this has to go on? Why all these guys want to claim Satoshi Nakamoto as their pseudoname? What actually would happen when the actual Satoshi surface? So much confusion really going on here.


A convicted fraud named Ronald Keala Kua Maria calls himself as Satoshi Nakamoto and had applied for the trademark of the bitcoin cash. But there is so much confusion about it.


Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: hukes on June 25, 2018, 10:42:43 PM
As far as i know this trademark is connect with bitcoin cash. That’s why they register this project. Now wait and see what will happen.


Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: franky1 on June 25, 2018, 11:45:54 PM
registered 2 years ago
yawn .. old news then

i wonder why people ar bringing up old out of date crap that does not affect the code.
usually this occurs as a distraction from something that does matter that people dont want people talking about..

EG
craig wright craig wright drama was brought up the time of the 2015 consensus roadmap.. then a few months later at the consesus backtracking roadmap. then again as the blame of cash.. when in reality it was a push forward of the core segwit split.

CW is a fraud and not even a coder. so have no clue why people even talk about him. but every time there is a big consensus conference or some new bip that core wants to be trojaned in.. social drama about things unrelated to new code is brought up to distract the community.

all i can guess is that people have lost desire for the CW social distraction and now a new foe has to emerge as the distraction.....
but again this ronald guy.. is just that.. a pointless distraction.


Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: Captain Crypto Pants on June 26, 2018, 12:18:59 AM
Everyone loves a conspiracy theory!  That is why it is in the news!  I think that it is fascinating, there is a guy out there with control of 1,000,000 BTC

I'm sure that quite a few governments around the world want to know who he is.  Imagine the spectacle if  someone could actually prove they were in possession of a Million BTC 


Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: TonyCharls on June 26, 2018, 12:55:46 AM
This more like a humorous news then one which is more informative to people. We all know how notorious this guy is, and that what he is claiming is in fact all bogus. We are well aware who is the real Satoshi, because Ronald Keala Kua Maria doesn’t know the difference between bitcoin and bitcoinash.


Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: olubams on June 26, 2018, 05:14:24 AM
Even people who are more credible than him.in terms of character have tried to lay claim to elthings related to crypto and more importantly claim to be Satoshi but it still didn't fly. What I see here is someone trying to get attention because how can you lay claim to an open source software that does not have anything to do with you in the first place couple with ridiculous claim of wanting a cut out of $800 and above transaction.


Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: Siren on June 26, 2018, 05:21:57 AM
A convicted fraud named Ronald Keala Kua Maria calls himself as Satoshi Nakamoto and had applied for the trademark of the bitcoin cash. But there is so much confusion about it.

If hes really satoshi nakamoto,theres no need to wait for conviction regarding fraud before claiming to be the man,since this name has been on the whole forum for how many years,this has been in deep search since all of us wanna know for whom we will dedicate the thankful feelings from the beneficiaries of hes legacy

This claimant is a noob and only wanted to gain what satoshi supposed to have.get lost dude no ones buying your story


Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: Kakmakr on June 26, 2018, 05:32:58 AM
People would not claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto, if they knew what shitstorm is waiting for them. When the real Satoshi Nakamoto are identified, it would be one of the biggest media circus that we would see, next to the Lady Di death in Paris.

Every law enforcement agency in the world are hunting for him and would be on his doorstep to arrest him or her for some trumped up charges. They <criminals and authorities> will also try to get their hands on the 1 000 000+ bitcoins that Satoshi owns.

No thanks, I do not want to be Satoshi Nakamoto.  ::)


Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: jseverson on June 26, 2018, 01:43:53 PM
Oh shit, if the real Satoshi Nakamoto tries to claim Bitcoin Cash, then it follows that it must be the true Bitcoin, right? Roger Ver was right all along. I am ashamed I ever doubted him :( /s

LOL!! Funny how this man named Ronald Keala Kua Maria is claiming he is Satoshi Nakamoto. I am not sure how this is going to affect bitcoin. How this is going to affect his life and his family?

It's not going to affect Bitcoin because no one will take it seriously. No one will believe any claim without solid evidence, considering what's at stake. His life will be altered somewhat because no one will take him seriously anymore. I'm not sure how it will affect his family, but I'm guessing some of them feel a little shame for him lol.


Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: Red Fish on June 26, 2018, 01:57:43 PM
If Bitcoin will grow, one day he can earn some profit, but most possible it is just wasted money. From crypto it is very hard to imagine the brand name, which can earn some money on T shirts etc.  ;)


Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: xtraelv on June 29, 2018, 01:29:46 AM
If Bitcoin will grow, one day he can earn some profit, but most possible it is just wasted money. From crypto it is very hard to imagine the brand name, which can earn some money on T shirts etc.  ;)

Even a fake Satoshi can profit from that. He can claim to be an "alt"  ;D

Kua Maria also claims ownership of many domains of BCH related websites, such as thesatoshinakamoto.com, bitcoincopyrights.com, bitcoincashcopyright.com, bchcopyright.com, and others.

On these websites, however, visitors are redirected to the URL of the Kua Maria website, rkm.world, which offers “free basic plans”.
How about your opinion of Ronald Keala Kua Maria.

My opinion ? Opportunistic conman lacking knowledge comes to mind.

registered 2 years ago
yawn .. old news then


Trademark Bitcoin cash applied for May 18, 2018 so new news.

The 2 year old copyright registration is less relevant. Copyright is lodged and not inspected. Trademarks are examined and if granted are hard to challenge.

https://i.imgur.com/ZKqRGmH.png


Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: xtraelv on July 01, 2018, 01:47:26 PM
I think trusting it won't be wise. I would like to learn more from exerts about it. Myself is really confused about it but I think he is lieing and this is a fraud.

Of course he is a fraud.
So far everyone who has claimed to be Satoshi is a fraud.
Satoshi doesn't want to be found.
He is too smart and has nothing to gain and everything to lose.
If you read Satoshis posts and letters he values privacy over money.
Why would he go through all the OpSec to reveal himself ?
Why would he be altruistic and then suddenly want to be greedy ?



Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: Oliveir on July 01, 2018, 02:11:04 PM
So what is the benefit of it in their part? They can't control the market even they proclaim they are the one who created this art,
I believe what is the reason why they decided to publish that they are the one behind Satoshi? or they are trying to fish the real persons/s behind it?


Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: xtraelv on July 01, 2018, 05:11:31 PM
So what is the benefit of it in their part? They can't control the market even they proclaim they are the one who created this art,
I believe what is the reason why they decided to publish that they are the one behind Satoshi? or they are trying to fish the real persons/s behind it?

Wants to charge 2% royalties for transactions over $800
He is asking for "voluntary" royalties.
Because I suspect that as soon as he demands money they can potentially charge him with fraud.

The creative commons would override his copyright registration if he tried to enforce it.

Trademarking Bitcoin Cash would effectively not affect Bitcoin but would affect Bitcoin Cash or Bcash as some people prefer to call it.


Quote
I own all the private keys, blockchains, alt coins and bitcoins under copyright law.

To obtain a FREE user license and an updated copy of this notice please contact Ronald Keala Kua Maria only at my contact information below or with the Guestbook and Feedback page on this website.

Basic Income plan all users may be required to pay 2% royalties on transactions over $800 USD and or any and all transactions after eight daily transactions to provide $800 a month Basic Income to all users subject to Copyright law and this Basic Income Plan. Licensees may register their keys in a privatekeybank.com and or publickeybank.com account. Non-Licensees may be subject to a ledgerblockout.com account until royalties are paid.

 All royalties will be paid into an annuity ainnuity.com which will invest in participating businesses and payout a monthly annuity payment to all qualified users.

IMPORTANT: ALL USERS MAY BE REQUIRED TO PLACE A LINK OF THIS NOTICE ON ALL RELATED WEBSITES AND TRANSACTIONS USING MY COPYRIGHTED TECHNOLOGY.

LEGAL NOTICE: THIS ENTIRE PROGRAM AND FREE LICENSE IS 100% VOLUNTARY. PARTICIPANTS WILL BE PUBLICLY VERIFIABLE AT VOLANTIR.COM TO SIGNAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST TRANSACTIONS WITH NON-PARTICIPANTS NOT CONTRIBUTING TO THIS BASIC INCOME PLAN.

Ronald also lays claims on:

text, computer program, artwork

The real Satoshi would know that someone else designed the artwork and that the code was a collaborative effort with other developers.

Ronald claims:

Quote
I did not publish any part of my TXu002037698 work prior to 08/17/2016.

On or about 09/20/2005 my home (address below) was raided by Federal and State authorities joint task force and my computers, laptops, files, inventions, copyrights, etc. were seized.

The real Satoshi did publish it all before 2016  and a raid in 2005 wouldn't affect his ability to prove it.

In October 2008, Satoshi published a paper on the cryptography mailing list at metzdowd.com describing the bitcoin digital currency.

Satoshi released the Version 0.1 of bitcoin software on Sourceforge on 9 January 2009. Even prior to the release there were others involved in the development of the code. After the release the code was also maintained by others based on it being open source.

If it were a credible claim (which it is not) then Ronald defrauded everyone who worked on it for free.

In my opinion his claims are so blatantly false and so unlike Satoshi. He is denigrating and maligning the character of Satoshi.

Qualities that I believe describes the real Satoshi would be: Calm, honest, humble, intelligent, dedicated, private and altruistic.

Also Satoshi registered his birthdate as: April 5, 1975

LOL @ intactico@gmail.com as I doubt Satoshi would ever use gmail.


Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: tristana443 on July 11, 2018, 04:40:58 AM
Satoshi Nakamoto has faked and scammed so many people with various tricks, you should be careful with this name.


Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: Johnzky on July 11, 2018, 04:46:22 AM
Not sure whether this should be in the "alts" section. Since the trademark is for "Bitcoin cash".  ;D

Convicted fraudster Ronald Keala Kua Maria applied for the trademark of Bitcoin Cash, and calls himself Satoshi Nakamoto

Wants to charge 2% royalties for transactions over $800

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMahwybUUd4

http://satoshinakamoto.ws/

https://i.imgur.com/7kuvjvi.png

https://i.imgur.com/ZKqRGmH.png

https://i.imgur.com/i7upJG7.png


Fascinating that "Satoshi" doesn't know the difference between "bitcoin" and "bitcoin cash".

Knowing a bit about copyright and trademark law - the obvious flaws are quite amusing.

Now that the IRS know who the real Satoshi is.....


Another crazy fool thats has been wanted publicity?

If satoshi wanted his/her personality to be revealed then the very moment that he created blockchain,i see no reason why needed to hide for this long and will claimed after 10 years,no logic at all.this is a sure craziness that dont deserved attention


Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: iram3130 on July 11, 2018, 04:58:35 AM
It is becoming like the story of "Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna of Russia". Dont these guys have anything else to do apart from impersonating Satoshi Nakamoto.?
Also Trademark war and domain wars are getting serious these days.


Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: improvegoup on July 14, 2018, 02:32:10 AM
Only Satoshi has access. They want just a better paypal, where the fee still goes to a centralized figure. Kua Maria also claims ownership of many domain names associated with the BCH. How about your Ronald Keala Kua Maria?


Title: Re: Ronald Keala Kua Maria claiming to be Satoshi and registering trademark.
Post by: decidedung on July 14, 2018, 02:37:54 AM
"Bitcoin Unlimited" and "Bitcoin ABC" as their trademarks? Mike Hearn and Gavin Andresen in the "extended debate"? Another person claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto.