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after few months weeks down and not closing in on the other game list prices .....  :-\ maybe time to create a bottom one

so who's actually a real BOTTOM caller ?????
as followed its gonna be
who's closest by the BOTTOM  from NOW (today) till YEARS end ,so on newyear CET gonna get some newyears .125 BTC hopefully worth a lot on newyears eve  ;D


just post in this topic a BOTTOM price between today and 28/6    (NO prices after the comma only like 10560 and not like 10560,2 or so)
i will not make a clear list just every body that post a price got to look himself if the price is not already been taken before himself,
and end time of price posting is when the BELGIUM-ENGLAND game starts on 28/6 all posting of bottoms after this doesn't count

don't let the bottom be to low  ;D  ;D

some BOTTOM explanations in  this topic are allways welcome and the BOTTOM caller that wins has a nice BOTTOM talk about it gets 0.15 in place of 0.125

posts from accounts with less than 10 merit doesn't count as well otherwise to many newbie accounts pops up

good to go? good luck .....

$$dollar prices $$

Bottom till new year will happen on 27th November and it will be $3876.



Lets hope that will also be a bottom of this cycle and we will not need to wait till next year for that. We all know how long Bitcoin will go sideways after reaching bottom.

YOU don't have to say a actual date only BOTTOM price the lowest from NOW till newyears EVE

A new game! ;D

Well, I have no idea what the bottom will be. Guess it'll be around 4979, that's my magic number as of now.

Thanks micgoossens!

Oct 29 18

$4027

My bottom guess, based on some totally arbitrary line drawing on https://bitcoinaverage.com/en/bitcoin-price/btc-to-usd in Log view, is $5134.
But I'm more interested to see when it'll reach it's next ATH again. It can take years like it did after 2013, or it can happen much faster. All I know is that many people are just waiting to jump the train, the instant it takes off. And there is of course the halving in 2 years (Bitcoin started to rise a few months after both previous halvings), and Lightning Network rolling out (hopefully soon).

TO BE CLEAR $$$$ DOLLAR PRICES  ::)

Since we've gone far below the old 6666 favourite I'll plump for the next symbolic number which is $2121.21 even if it hasn't made much of a market appearance in the past. I expect more witches and goblins and tricksters to start trading over the coming months.

Another game from OP, another opportune moment, let us hope.

My bottom call is 5,489. Confidence? Not really. It's just that I've been seeing bottoms called every so often in the past two months, from doubles to triples and I think the sense is that we're very near the floor for the year. Most sustained bearish period for as long as anyone can remember and I'm with Loyce on saying that we could be in for a period of multi-year languishing below ATH.

BUT, there's a lot of psychology involved as well and volumes are still nowhere the highs of 6 months ago so there is still a lot of holding, contrary to the accusations of panic.

I gain some confidence also from RSI hovering near 20. 16 is of course possible still but sentiment won't wait.

Prices should touch just below 5500. Temporarily, before we resume some confidence building back up to 7000 in a month, before more sideways movement up to Christmas.

thanks for the new game :)

bottom = 2255

yeah im a doom and gloom type of guy

4850

5824.71537

Well I guess somebody had to post it. :)

LOL no comma  ;)  ::)

Bottom -

$5264

The final bottom will come in at $3860

OK I'll bite.

$5780.

 8)

$3996

Many thanks to micgoossens for all the games!

oh hey which exchange? ;D

Always same like previous games .... i think BITSTAMP right ?

My guess is $5248.

ok cool thanks

4998 bottom
fuck

better come with some +5777 bottoms  ;D don't wanna fall to deep  ;)  ::)

hope so man, but a nice spring up from touching 5k would be soo bullish ->-> SUPERBOOM 8)

Im going to go for around $5000 ish, based on a simple long term bottom resistance line drawn all the way back from 2017-03-25 ($884) to 2017-07-16 ($1839) and then this connects to around this $5,000 area, a bit lower or higher... this is in Bitstamp prices.

I have to say a specific value I guess so $4982

4999 just a feeling.

I dont think that it will continue to drop.
It has already been goign down for more than months already, it would be strange to see it going deeper

if you wanna participate just take a price.......

Bottom will be at $5592

$5780

I call for $3 650.

This thread sucks.

I thought that whenever there is "serious discussion" about bottoms, then those kinds of "serious" discussions need to be accompanied by pics.  So far, not even one pic in this thread.  Big disappointment.

5420

$4700

better make a prediction instead of trolling or taking a lead with pics ;)

Bitcoin will never go below $5,835 ever again! (24th June as per CMC). So I'm calling this the real bottom.

this are the nice bottom calls  ;D

I think it will be $5454. :D

This man is a genius! I thought of this only after making my post, when the price went up right after I called for a $5134 bottom (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4530624.msg40818243#msg40818243). Now it's easy: if it doesn't drop anymore, you're a winner :D

yeah maybe always best to try ;)

shortly a ATH till NEW YEARS EVE list will follow ....... then a have 4 running enough for a while ;D

My guess is that we are going for a pre-fork price, something around $2500.

I call $2873.
This is my technical analysis, because someone wanted some pictures ;D (I have no experience in TA)  http://prntscr.com/jzarq4
I hope that banner won't be a problem. :P

"The real bottom callers"... haha! Even Masterluc stopped making grand predictions about top and bottom. This market is much more unpredictable than years ago, truly a chop fest, with clear patterns only visible zoomed out after the fact. It looks quite a lot like oil charts now. I don't bother much with predictions anymore. I just wait for a clear trend and ride it.

But here's some food for thought. There is a big confluence of potentially important levels in the $3,000 area. Upside and downside pivots from 2017, a long term log trend line and the 200-week MA:

https://i.imgur.com/IjgVrFl.png

Given the length of the February-June range, it's definitely reasonable for price to get halved from here. It doesn't have to but it would be totally normal. My guess would be a wick below the log trend and the round $3K level: $2,970.

$4925 is my guess. Due to the downtrend line for the past week, if it will not break the resistance at $6500 it will go down until 5k below until the end of the year.


Haha Great call.  :o Let the bull run. Go go go.

My guess: bottom at 5151.

I would not characterize my post as trolling, but is merely a thread status comment/assertion (perhaps somewhat emotionally based?).  

I will leave the predicting of BTC prices and bottoms to folks who feel inclined to make such assertions...   which is not within the preferences of this cat at this moment.

By the way, I feel that I am fairly adequately prepared for BTC price movements in either direction, so I don't have any strong feelings about actual numbers in either direction... instead, for me, I would rather play these kinds of matters day by day, and perhaps on certain days I may have stronger feelings than others regarding the extent to which one area of support or resistance will be broken.. but price bottoms and tops remain a moving target and a range, rather than a number (until it becomes a number, which is the past rather than the future).

I do have stronger feelings that the bottom is NOT in, in recent days, as compared with my feelings from a few weeks ago...but whatever.... It does not really matter what I think or how I feel at this particular moment because the BTC price is going to do whatever the fuck it does, and nobody knows, and guessing remains a stab in the dark that may end up being lucky without really telling the reader anything meaningful except expectations of the poster...

Call me party pooper if you will, but I must proclaim that on a personal level (psychological and financial) it remains prudent for me to attempt go with the flow and hope for the best and prepare (somewhat without getting preoccupied by fringe scenarios) for the worst... which for my own sanity does not tend to involve ascribing any specific seemingly random shot in the dark numbers.    :D :D :D

I am not  much of an expert but I do not think that the price will go below $5000. The hash rate has increased to the highest ever and prices have always followed hash rate in the past.

If in any case it goes to below $3000 or so, it will collapse in next few days. Only the people behind the project will keep the coins to support it.

Yup, even feeling BTC may drop below 5k, I figured, strategically, that's the best bet to make. Now lets play a waiting game.

$5878

why? because that is the bottom that has happened in the time frame that OP mentions and although there is a chance that price may still go lower but i am going to go out of limb here and say that was the bottom (price on Coinbase) and we won't see any lower.

ps. maybe you should come up with some sort of sharing rules if more than 1 person called the same bottom.
p.ps. you should maybe clarify which price you will look up for comparison. different exchanges have different prices/bottoms.

bitstamp actual bottom on 24-6 was 5778 right....?

https://i.imgur.com/JkrWZrV.png

So you're trying to do what I did but with different price source?

https://i.imgur.com/BfzAG4o.jpg


Anyhow, OP said he'll used BitStamp rate, the actual bottom at BitStamp was $5,780, called by djsugar here:


So (unless the min. 10 merits requirement relates to merits actually earned) he has it covered. Any calls above $5,780 can't win. With that in mind, if djsugar's call is valid, I'd like to change mine to $4,777 if possible.

I'm seeing L: 5,780 as per https://www.bitstamp.net/market/tradeview/

5136$ :D

correct 5780 the lowest @ the moment curious where we will end as lowest and for next list highest ........

^time for a list of bets so far? - if you're not tooo hungover lol


Jimbo called that before the sugar guy

^
i will do it later today while watching a football game .......

 ;)

Lucky guess. Though i think it's still too early to call it the bottom even if we've moved above 6k once again. It's mind numbing to speculate where bitcoin is headed in the next few weeks or months since we've been mostly headed downward for majority of this year

bottom list  closing exactly on start of  belgium-england  football match ---NO MORE BOTTOM AFTER THAT TIME---

2120 pawel7777
2121 gentlemand
2255 vapourminer
2500 fabiorem
2873 7jaka7
2970 exstasie
3434 Tzupy
3650 jadenunderhill
3860 DeathAngel
3876 febo
3996 AlcoHoDL
4027 jojo69
4190 STT
4197 Spaceman_Spiff_Original
4350 Vasilije69
4700 Robin,Hood
4850 ssmc2
4979 Dunkelheit667
4982 BillyBobZorton
4998 Last of the V8s
4999 Vin
5100 Nikola95
5134 LoyceV
5151 d_eddie
5248 iram1011
5264 LFC_Bitcoin
5420 mfort312
5454 supermine
5489 buwaytress
5592 ChinkyEyes
5780 JimboToronto
5824 Jet Cash
5878 talkbitcoin

got every one so far ....... 5780 was allready taken.......

emotionally based???? serious ????? made allready few of this games.....so i thought when i was lucky accumulating BTC's or winning BTC's playing poker.... to just put out a fun game (luck game offcourse --- but Why the f*** writing big text instead of free rolling and just put in a number....... ?? )
in a few days gonna start another one for ATH this year ...... i think its just nice, for someone to win something like this catching little bit BTC by just random LUCK

last +-24 hours for bottom prices try to grab some free .125/.15 btc .......

$4197

Tx for the game !

Could these 3 gentlemen change their calls?:


Any call above Jimbo's $5,780 can't possibly win.

Till tomorrow @start of the belgium game....( 20.00 cet) its all possible till then......

In such case I'll take $2,120 (sorry gentlemand, nothing personal).

I'll take the most negative point I guess because we have to include the ideas of a spike down for a price that exists for 5 minutes only or even just one contract traded.     The bottom price in a larger move in an exhaustion phase is often a spike down to find the most possible contracts to sell, get the most people to give up their stop loss and then also meets buyers, hence producing the largest volume of any bar nearby and becoming a bedrock event I guess.

So looking at the chart I think early august pricing 2017 would be the most solid part of the chart.   I could be off by a thousand here easily but I see this area as most significant because we have the trading wandering around here for a full 8-10 weeks and then it rose strongly.    Thats alot of people, alot of trades, holders, sellers, business done at that price.  
I think we did have alot of fear back then, the split and warnings from big figures about the dangers of the two forks.    People selling just after ? alot of doubt if I remember right.

Looking at Bitstamp, first August week high would register at 4190.   Impossible to say exactly but thats my guess for where is the elastic strongest most supported when we push down into a bounce to build & call it a 'bottom'

no one really can't predict but 2K range seems really low not ?

It is, but it's a good guess as picking just one dollar under the lowest gives a wide range that makes you a winner.
pawel7777 wins with anything from $0 to $2120.50 (range 2120.50)
gentlemand wins with anything from $2120.50 to $2138 (range 17.50)
If Bitcoin goes very low, pawel7777 is much more likely to win than gentlemand, so it's a smart choice.

$4350

I guess we'll bottom in September, out of may ass I am guessing 3434$.

My guess is bottom will be 5100 $

It feels low because we were just near $20K six months ago. But six months doesn't tell the whole story. It was only a year ago that the last bubble started going parabolic.

In fact, the last bull market support visible on the 1-month chart is that $3,000-$1,800 consolidation from last June/July. That seems like a very appropriate range to test, if the downtrend continues here.

Will put last bottom price in the list tomorrow ...... good luck and let the highest bottom win  ;D

this is the BOTTOM list      little bit small but ONE of you gonna get bit of BTC on new years EVE GOOD LUCK

2120 pawel7777
2121 gentlemand
2255 vapourminer
2500 fabiorem
2873 7jaka7
2970 exstasie
3434 Tzupy
3650 jadenunderhill
3860 DeathAngel
3876 febo
3996 AlcoHoDL
4027 jojo69
4190 STT
4197 Spaceman_Spiff_Original
4350 Vasilije69
4700 Robin,Hood
4850 ssmc2
4979 Dunkelheit667
4982 BillyBobZorton
4998 Last of the V8s
4999 Vin
5100 Nikola95
5134 LoyceV
5151 d_eddie
5248 iram1011
5264 LFC_Bitcoin
5420 mfort312
5454 supermine
5489 buwaytress
5592 ChinkyEyes
5780 JimboToronto
5824 Jet Cash
5878 talkbitcoin

1575 flash crash bottom.

pretty low .......

Good luck everyone!

Thanks again for the game micgoossens!

Will keep my fingers crossed for JimboToronto to win. ;D

@JimboToronto - I'd like to buy your call. Can pay BTC0.008, so ~$50 (real dollars) as of now. Whadyasay?

Offer valid for 48 hours.

It's already closed lower than that ???

Yes, we saw $5774.7. But Jimbo is the closest as of now, right? He is $5.3 off and ChinkyEyes $182.7. If we see no lower lows by the end of the year, Jimbo will be the winner. At least that's how I thought it should be. :)

aha . ok. forgive me

 ;D LET JIMBO WIN THIS ONE  ;D

I just entered what was the current bottom price at the time on Bitstamp according to Bitcoinwisdom.

I figured we'd already seen the bottom.

Bottom guess of $5454

I think that we have already touched the bottom more than months ago, when it touched less than $5700 each bitcoin, we have already passed that and everything is now more than stable, so there is no need to worry as of now

You can't make calls anymore, deadline has passed last month and the list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4530624.msg41119192#msg41119192) is final.

How about mine? :)

See you on new year

for the moment JIMBO still got the bottom

let him be and let him alone F****** bears   ;D

4100 Bottom! called it! Remember me! Gimme some money! I am going to try and ride the wave with daytrading. Althought when things are going bellyup like this, I have a history of losing. Oh well. Can't make butter without punching a few cows.

2120 pawel7777
2121 gentlemand
2255 vapourminer
2500 fabiorem
2873 7jaka7
2970 exstasie
3434 Tzupy
3650 jadenunderhill
3860 DeathAngel
3876 febo
3996 AlcoHoDL
4027 jojo69
4190 STT
4197 Spaceman_Spiff_Original
4350 Vasilije69
4700 Robin,Hood
4850 ssmc2
4979 Dunkelheit667
4982 BillyBobZorton
4998 Last of the V8s
4999 Vin
5100 Nikola95
5134 LoyceV
5151 d_eddie
5248 iram1011
5264 LFC_Bitcoin
5420 mfort312
5454 supermine
5489 buwaytress
5592 ChinkyEyes
5780 JimboToronto    :)  still in the lead
5824 Jet Cash
5878 talkbitcoin

after another sharp dive JIMBO still the bottom man BEARS/whales etc let him be  ;D

I’m still in there at 5264 but FFS I’ll be happy to let Jimbo win as long as that’s a confirmed bottom. I want to get ready for the next bull run. Suppose the only good thing about being around the current price is that it’s stiol cheap enough to add to my HODLINGS.

Whoa I was so not prepared to revisit this thread so soon but there you go with Bitcoin. Just saw a few others I recognise in the threar, thank you mic for this nice list and reminder. I see I'm third in line, but like you LFC, I'd be real happy to have Jimbo or even Chinky win if this is the last we'll ever see Bitcoin dip below 6k.

Not that I wouldn't welcome a win.

Yes you are right, $5.7k dollars is the bottom caller because the market prices today is starting to grow again so we can expect higher prices in the future.

^

5700 would be a Nice bottom if iT is.....  :) time for everyone to buy and appriciate This fabolous asset

?? Is jimbo gonna get challenged again ?  ::)

We've already seen this year's lowest price. Jimbo is the winner.

Would be Nice .... and surely don’t mind sending to a true hodler/coiner.....

I see the bottom at 6k, strong resisstance zone...instantly bounced back from these regions in the past

How about my guess? :)

See you on new year

Too late for the contest, but the bottom will be $2352 in January 2019.

 :o Thats pretty low hairry
I don’t think the Bottom to be that low but with BTC never know offcourse

Your signature: "I have no idea what I am doing." :D

That is a scientific fact.

hairry such a nice guy JUST only need to hope his wrong short-mid term only his long term SUPER BULLISH mind is what we want   ;)

The bottom price of bitcoins is already at 5.8k dollars and it will not be ever reach $4k again so keep on holding your coins today to avoid losing more investments.

What Hairy seems to be doing, which is similar to other short term bearish folks is attempting to plug BTC into a kind of late 2013 pattern...

Sure, maybe it will play out that way, but I tend to have a lot of doubts about that both because 1) bitcoin is a whole new thing that has never been seen before which causes certain dynamics that even though they may rhyme from time to time, it would not be good to be attempting to play into patterns, even if everyone else is engaging in such and 2) likely s-curve exponential growth is going to continue to cause upwards price pressures on BTC even if there are strong bear market forces out there, they are not necessarily going to get their way with a painful price drop (which pain is NOT as necessary as traditional analysts like to assert - even though I don't disagree that free markets such as bitcoin are going to allow for the manipulators to extract a lot of pain - and they have already done that too... even  though it seems to NOT be as much as traditional analyzers believe to be "necessary.")

Does it really matter what price bottom will be. All that matters is that it happens and we go past it and then soon after a bit of sideways we enjoy nice loving 2 years of bull trend.  I dont care if it happened 2 months ago or if it will happen tomorrow or in January or even latter and if it goes to $1000. Who cares. Just let it some to us.

Even though in the long run, let's say 10 years or even perhaps 5 years, it may not matter too much what the price does today; however, in the short term, I think it matters regarding how low the BTC price goes and when it gets there.  And certain extremes of price move, even downward, can stagnate the price for a considerable amount of time, and also if BTC just goes shooting up to a $1million, that could also cause some screw ups in both how bitcoin is perceived and the kinds of folks who are willing to put money into it.

^
Lets say i think we are all longterm hodlers and BTC believers So price doesn’t matter to much Where iT stands today , but we can all appriciate Some steady upward growing ......

hahahaha

Sounds like either you don't believe in shills, trolls and bears or you don't want to believe that they really exist  - therefore "everyone" is a bull deep down on the inside.

From other posts, I recognize that you do know about the existence of nocoiners, and surely it is possible, that when BTC prices get to $1million or some other relatively high price, the bitcoin naysayers are going to see the light?

I do believe that there Will be a point that a percentage of nocoiners are Going to bite and further on the more hardcore nocoiners and So on Will have to buy as well ..... but than we are far in the BIG bitcoin picture
In my Own experience i did see people that said its invisible Money , its nothing for me and So on did bought Some BTC and offcourse Some shitcoins ( most off the times to much in shotcoins to little in BTC ) but its a learning process for all of us

For sure, short term temptations and even actualities of making "more money" by trading in shitcoins is going to continue to distract and delay a large of no coiners from either understanding or buying bitcoin.

I believe we will definitely bounce off around 6k back to a new smaller lower high before going back, perhaps breaking the support, going back into the 5ks before we start a new bullrun around perhaps... december?

The bottom price in a larger move in an exhaustion phase is often a spike down to find the most possible contracts to sell, get the most people to give up their stop loss and then also meets buyers, hence producing the largest volume of any bar nearby and becoming a bedrock so looking at the chart.

Jimbo back under attack  :o

5848

List is closed don’t mis the next one.... but good to ADD a number for sports  :D

I believe that loyceV is good on this one,so i will choose the bottom closer to her/him and thats $5138 looks bit higher lol.

As of the moment bitcoin is dropping again today with almost $1000 fall dont you think this is the start of hitting the bottom?Well its for us to find out

You know it's closed, right? :P

It's actually starting to look like I stand a chance again! I already have a purpose for the prize if I win: 2 different paper wallets for my kids, it'll either be their college fund in 15 years, or something they'll just laugh about :D
And if I don't win, I should really start making and funding those paper wallets for them anyway.

^
Let the purpose be for college funds..... instead something to laugh with  ::)
If you would take This one down iT would serve a Nice goal sir

We will definitely see some action in this thread in this month. Lets hope that will be the final act.

Still got a chance here

Okay, I'm game!


$6042.11 - USD 

I want to get ready for the next bull run. Suppose the only good thing about being around the current price is that it’s stiol cheap enough to add to my hodlings.

Yeah seems that way .....

Steady growth and reasonable fees without any insane market activities to drive the price to the moon, with FOMOs kicking in and the transaction fees skyrocketing is actually something very much appealing. I really do not care about the bottom or how low it is going to go, if there is need to buy at a much lower price, I will buy if I have the funds.

At least for the fact that for those who understand the benefit they stand to gain in the long run asides the price hitting peak overnight, they will end up being the ones to get those benefits and even get more. At the moment and like LoyceV stated though, I am expecting something within the range of $5150.

Since you mentioned that you "will buy if I have the funds," does that mean that you have not already set aside some funds (presumably fiat) to buy BTC in the $5,150 range, assuming that prices were to go to that arena?    

Surely, if I was fairly confident that BTC prices were going to go to that arena, like you seem to be, then I would set aside some BTC buying funds (fiat) for such.

^
Thats true maybe Some longterm believers should sold Some @15-20k range cause price was parabolic @that time and to have Some fiat for buying a DIP When the time was there ..... but iT always easy to speak after such events
I also didn’t sold shit maybe a penny of my hodling stash.... but i always bought @low prices and played poker to increase most of my BTC’s and its been Going good So far .... i also didn’t saw Why i should sold @ the high prices cause i could still increase through other ways
But When selling higher prices and buying dips is the only chance of increasing then Thats what you can try to do..... ( never take advice of me i Just fell into BTC cause of luck and increasing BTC’s with other methods)

They will sell it at that price because it was very risky if they will hold their coins at that range since the price of bitcoins can bubble immediately after it increases for a very long time.

Even though, as an overall strategy, I recommend selling small amounts on the way up and using those proceeds to buy back, in my above post, I am making a different point, which is asking about whether naidray has a buying plan, especially if he believes that BTC prices are going DOWN to the $5,150 range.  Furthermore, as an additional point, I understand that there are a lot of folks who don't want to sell any of their BTC and they ONLY want to buy on dips.  I completely understand that kind of "don't wanna sell any" inclination. 

Accordingly, I have a bit of an assumption that a large number of folks have some kind of cashflow that allows them to pay for their regular expenses, such as lodging, food, transportation, entertainment, emergencies, so anyone who attempts to live within their means, can also attempt to create an additional cashflow that would allow them to buy BTC on a regular basis or to use the same cashflow (through saving up) to buy BTC during dips that they anticipate, just like naidray stated that s/he anticipates a $5,150 dip.



I am not saying that only buying on dips is a bad strategy, and surely I understand that people may have additional reasons (besides worrying about selling too much BTC) to NOT want to sell their BTC, especially while attempting to accumulate BTC, and one of those reasons could be the way that their specific jurisdiction (such as in the US of A) treats bitcoin like a commodity and capital gains.. .which causes lots of potential accounting complications.



Personally, I do believe that selling small amounts on the way up is a better practice, yet I am not going to argue so strenuously that such an asserted "better practice" means that any other guy (or perhaps gal) should come to the same conclusion(s) as me (even though I am going to continue to advocate that it is a solid strategy to attempt to prepare and insure your BTC portfolio for either price direction)....

Yet, I was not making such a sell on the way up point in response to naidray's post... Again, my emphasis was asking about what kind plan and/or preparation s/he was making to buy the anticipated $5,150 dip, if such were to really occur, as s/he was anticipating with so much confidence that s/he posted such price prediction, in this thread.




Surely, there are a variety of methods and strategies that guys (and gal) employ to increase their BTC holdings which also include blind luck, too.  And, it seems to m that any time you play with luck there are decent chances to become unlucky too.. so in that regard, it would rarely hurt to attempt to create and/or maintain a BTC accumulation plan and to attempt to learn from your mistakes or your luck (or lack thereof).

Also, isn't a part of the reason that guys (and gal) participate in BTC talk threads is to attempt to learn about the strategies of others, share their own strategies and perhaps even learn about their own strategies by attempting to engage with other BTC talk members?   

Maybe after the fact we know what was a bubble or what was not a bubble, but we don't really know while it is occurring, just like now we don't know whether the "bottom is 'in' ".   Personally, it seems to me that we just have to attempt to find and to practice strategies that are best for ourselves and our own views, including our risk tolerance, financial situation, views on bitcoin, time line and other factors that are relevant to our consideration(s).

Hello micgoossens,

I just want to know why am I not in the list.  ;D

I've sold about 0.5 Bitcoin for 200-ish dollars a few years back (I still regret this, but I learned from it). Now I have a different approach: I sell a small bit every time Bitcoin goes up 18%. Since I started keeping track, my schedule shows (in euro) sales at 3k5, 4k2, 4k9, 5k8, 6k9, 8k1, 9k6, 11k3, 13k4 and 15k8.
Since I only sell small bits, and since the current price is still much higher than my early sales, I see no reason to buy back more. I made this schedule because I realized I'm terrible at timing the market.
Or, as I've said before: I'm not buying, I'm not selling, I'm just enjoying the ride. But I do enjoy the ride up more than the ride down :P

I modeled my approach from rptiela's Sane and simple savings thread  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345065.0), and in sum he had suggested raking profits every 100% to 200% increments, but establishing a plan.  And, such plan for 100% price increases might be something like 10%.  I modified that to be more than 1% for every 10% price rise, and I figured that I could do more than 1% because I would be buying back on price falls - and he seemed to largely advocate completely removing profits from the table and either investing them somewhere else or enjoying the proceeds.  Surely no one can be opposed to those kinds of ideas, but it is also important to attempt to tailorize any approach to one's own financial circumstances, views on bitcoin, risk tolerance, timeline, etc.

By the way, even though rptiela surely had issues in 2013 when he posted those ideas, his personal circumstances seemed to have had devolved considerably subsequently.. 

Just start out really slow and with small amounts, BonyHob.  I have attempted to help a lot of folks with this in various bitcoin forums and also in real life, and I tend to find that a lot of peeps want to attempt to make profits right away.

Of course, you should attempt to tailorize your approach to your own situation, including your risk tolerance, your finances, your views about bitcoin and your timeline, yet I personally believe that a better strategy ends up attempting to stack orders on both ends so that you never run out of fiat if the price goes down and you never run out of bitcoins if the price goes up.  Once you have played around with it for a while to see how it plays out, then you can increase the amounts and attempt to play with it a bit more.  

I personally tend NOT to gamble too much of my bitcoins or my strategy because my ongoing goal is to attempt to take profits in bitcoin rather than fiat.. which means that I am trying to accumulate bitcoins.  Since I don't expect to live forever, and bitcoin seems likely to have some more upwards exponential price spurts I am sure that at some point, I will feel less inclination to accumulate bitcoin and more inclination to enjoy some of the fruits of my profits that seemed to have been enhanced by my ongoing strategies (and tweaking it around from time to time).

Another prediction post, this time what's the bottom price? I will be consistent and I will stay with my old guess.
The price will be no less 5600$, because of strong support.

There is absolutly no reason to think the bears are gone now. All we have seen so far is the price bounce of lower highs again and again and again. And now Satoshi is moving his coins to exchanges... No this is going to crash down into the ground. 3800.

the ride up is more enjoyable, but the ride down is more thrilling.

In my own opinion the bottom price is undefined because people can always sell their coins depending on their emotions so it can drop so it can always drop so hard depending on the market situation.

absolute .... i prefer enjoyable BUT then again who doesn't..... gotta take it as it is, nothing to do about it

2120 pawel7777
2121 gentlemand
2255 vapourminer
2500 fabiorem
2873 7jaka7
2970 exstasie
3434 Tzupy
3650 jadenunderhill
3860 DeathAngel
3876 febo
3996 AlcoHoDL
4027 jojo69
4190 STT
4197 Spaceman_Spiff_Original
4350 Vasilije69
4700 Robin,Hood
4850 ssmc2
4925 criz2fer
4979 Dunkelheit667
4982 BillyBobZorton
4998 Last of the V8s
4999 Vin
5100 Nikola95
5134 LoyceV
5151 d_eddie
5248 iram1011
5264 LFC_Bitcoin
5420 mfort312
5454 supermine
5489 buwaytress
5592 ChinkyEyes
5780 JimboToronto    :)  still in the lead
5824 Jet Cash
5878 talkbitcoin

after another sharp dive JIMBO still the bottom man ...... kind of curious if its gonna hold after all cause they are trying hard

maybe some volatile days ahead

keep strong jimbo see you on new years eve  ;D

BEARS are not trying hard enough JIMBO............ are you actualy the real BTCBOTTOM-CALLER?

If comparing to the 2013 pump, bottom in 2015 was under the prior pump past $200. Soooo, I'm thinking sub $1100 is possible. I'm more concerned with wtf is the use case of bitcoin seeing all these regulations moving in. Maybe the bottom will be zero.

Someone paying you to spread nonsense?

Of course, below $1,100 is possible, but how the fuck likely is it? 

Good luck waiting for that.

As far as "not having a use case", you better do a bit of research if you are so lame as to spread that nonsensical talking point that has almost no basis in reality, if you haven't realized bitcoin to be approaching its 10th anniversary with a price spread between zero and nearly $20k, and a current correction that has been bouncing betwen $5,774 and $11k for the past 8 months (concededly at the lower end of such channel for the past five month or so), but anyhow your stupid ass blanket statement of no use cases seems to be a trolling attempt rather than any attempt at any kind of meaningful bottom calling discussion.

Mr Gee, what is bitcoin's use case in the current environment of kyc and crack downs on crypto exchanges? I'm all ears. And don't say some GD stupid bullshit about how it's a storage of value. Underneath my mattress is a better one. Fees are way to high and way to unstable to use as a currency. What. Is. The. Use. Case.

I have no obligation to answer your stupid-ass trolling interrogation that attempts to put some kind of burden on me to explain what bitcoin is to you, when you seem to not understand what value it has (especially when you are discounting store of value - that has a lot more to it than the fiat that you have under your mattress that are likely to depreciate in value in 100 years and be worth 1-2% of what they were worth when you put them there (if you are lucky).  

If you believe that there is no value in having control over your money and a system that challenges the (lack of) sound money of all governments (that might even start out with good intentions but turn into fiscally irresponsible dweebs when they realize that they can print more and more and more money), and a system that has never previously existed, then you seem to NOT understand what is going on in terms of bitcoin's hashing power or the challenge (or disruption potential) that bitcoin is contributing to the scheme of monetary possibilities (including giving gold, silver and other pms a definite run for their money in terms of portability, divisibility and the practicality of use and ultimate non-inflation of the BTC supply beyond the original algorithm parameters - absent some kind of overwhelming consensus to change it.. which would likely not come easily.).

Why the fuck are there so many computers mining bitcoin?, someone knows something about the value of bitcoin if they are investing that much into securing it, no?  Oh no.  You, WinslowIII, are the smartest person in the room, and you seem to understand some kind of meaningful veto-ing power threat to bitcoin (aka kyc.. .  or that exchanges closing or burdened out of existence would actually cause the death of bitcoin)  ::) ::) ::))

Your fees are too high proposition, or even any kind of claim that bitcoin processes transactions too slow are both non-substantiated talking points, and if you have proof about those claims, then the burden is on you.  So far, as far as I have been able to tell, bitcoin continues to have a considerable amount of transactions that go on the blockchain, and there are second layer solutions that are optional to folks to use too (even though they are still in relatively early testing stages).

It seems to me that you have the burden to establish your dumbass nonsenical proposition that bitcoin does not have any use cases, because I continue to see growth and development and the expansion of its seven network effects (look up network effects discussed by Trace Mayer if you want to learn more about that angle of bitcoin's ongoing growth).  

You don't have nothing, even though you spout off some dumbass conclusory interrogations that seem to presume the conclusions that you would like to believe to be true.. so in the end, if you don't believe bitcoin has any use case, then don't buy it and go out there and bet against it (by shorting, perhaps?).  Good luck.

Oh no, you are too desperate for shorting bitcoin, and you would rather spread FUD based on wild unsubstantiated assertion, amirite, newbie troll/shill?

SO this is what i like haha

starting with,
I have no obligation to answer your stupid-ass trolling interrogation that attempts to put some kind of burden on me to explain what bitcoin is to you

and then finish with a page of answering NICE  :D


and maybe BTC is 8000 end of the year , but i do not predict its possible 8k and lower is possible as well .... BUT i'm always going for the higher prices and if its not .... yeah then its  LIKE

https://i.imgur.com/VvzZfvz.gif

and i will be

https://i.imgur.com/5t4M6YA.gif

to then

HODL as always

The best use case is peer to peer globally and no I cannot as easily do this with any other system.   Fees could always be lower, I agree with efficiency being a driving force in many markets but its not especially a reason for being bearish right now.    Storing under a mattress will get your money eaten by mice, thats just an example of failure in FIAT that theres nowhere safer or better use to hold it.

KYC and exchanges are centralised websites and not directly relevant to the protocol which exists regardless of secondary uses like this.    If BTC leveraged up from those effects and they are reduced then I agree it will unwind to that extent but to presume all use of BTC is via one type of use would be simply incorrect.
The main case for BTC I think will always be by individuals and that is where the base use must be justified so that the rest of the economy and speculation that built upon that base case can then go forward and be successful or not.   I'm only going to be bullish on BTC so long as it serves the people, poor or rich in transferring and confirming value globally and easily.   Last I checked thats still a positive ongoing market for BTC.

Your argument is old really, we've heard these negatives  years ago even.    Its not that you are all wrong in naming negatives but its incorrect to assume this is an entire story for Bitcoin or even a deciding factor.    If nothing else then for every system of exchange, there is a set of positives and negatives that has to be weighed up vs the alternatives

Ok, so no businesses accept it and why would they since the tx fees are too high. The only peer to peer anonymous tx is with cash, bitcoin leaves a trail with every single thing you do with it. How many txs peer to peer globally take place? probably not enough to justify a 10th of the current mkt cap. The best use case was trading but that's becoming more and more difficult because exchanges are banning people and requiring tons of hoops to jump through to prove your identity. Using it to buy alts was a big one too that is becoming less and less of a use case since the altcoin market has no volatility anymore. I disagree my arguments are old, these are recent problems. Not sure this is going to bounce back this time, gotta be honest.

Talking about bottom price, i think bitcoin can reach up to 7482 at the end of this month or midway through November. But no matter what the price bitcoin will have before this year ends, i am much open for possibilities of holding still my crypto assets (if it is low).

People who are calling for $2000 bottom are crazy and those with $1000 predictions are nothing but trolls.
If you are really comparing bear markets a drop of over 80% from ATH is very rare. You almost never see it in healthy stocks only in those that are fundamentally flawed and on their way to ruin. $1000 would be a 95% loss. If we ever witness that it will literally be the end of it and a total exodus to another asset.

Yeah, you are so much smarter than bitcoiners, right?, and innovative with your "new" arguments, and your anticipation that BTC is not bouncing back this time.

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2016/05/gettyimages_539589691_1024/lead_720_405.jpg?mod=1533691821

Probably it would behoove you to attempt to go learn something about bitcoin.

Hopefully, for your own good, you are not a no coiner, and merely a paid shill that is smart enough to have a bit of bitcoin hedged against your nonsense proclamations.  Surely, it would be a good thing to buy some BTC in these times in order that you are not chasing after the train with your seeming nonsense misinformation about bitcoin (assuming that you really believe the crap that you are spouting out).

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8c/f0/69/8cf0690e3527f98015885313f928d25d.jpg

$1000 would not be the end of bitcoin.

You have to look at both the rise up and the fall, and put the whole price movement in context.

Manipulators are going to manipulate as much as they can, and the higher the market cap and the more liquidation avenues, the more difficult it is to fiscally manipulate bitcoin so they definitely rely upon FUD spreading and various other means to both create negativism and also to attempt to push more and more low, if they can, in order to take advantage of momentum.

Don't get me wrong, from here it seems very difficult to get down to $1k, but it is not impossible or even the death of bitcoin, but surely that would be an extreme shaking out that just does not seem to be in the cards at this time... and even getting below mid-$5ks is proving to be quite a bit of a struggle, which lends some uncertainties about whether bears have enough ammunition or ability to erode buy support in the $6k arena and to shake confidence to get some folks to sell some of their bitcoins.... at a certain point, they just have to give up attempting to shake the tree, but surely when prices are within 10% striking distance they are not going to easily give up in their ongoing shaking attempts.

It's only after a currency becomes prevalent that merchants are pushed into accepting it (by consumers). Consumer spending isn't a very interesting use case anyway.

It's also not 2017 anymore......fees are quite cheap right now. Segwit adoption just hit 50% of transactions. I'm transacting with 1 sat/byte for the most part, no more than a couple pennies each.


There were ~235K confirmed transactions in the last 24 hours. You tell me what that's worth, and why market cap is relevant. :)

TRY HARDER!!!11!
Throw a pinch of "no intrinsic value" in the mix or something... You can do better than that.


I still believe

https://i.imgur.com/szYHnTT.jpg

2120 ? still believe ?

ATH i still believe .....

BUT

https://i.imgur.com/a6mlSwH.gif

and THE BOTTOM of jimbo again secured for a while  :o

I see that there are many negative statements at the beginning of this thread. It's an irrational that we have negative thinking among the Bitcoin society. I do not understand why this is happening ?! Don't you see how much has changed over the last few years? There are no limits on the Bitcoin way - some regulation is enough and we are moving forward!

The price by the end of the year will be $8,000 !!!

Thank you!

You seems to need to read ti again. Question exactly was this:

Congratulations in advance, Jimbo! :)

I really do hope Jimbo wins this (yes I don’t want to win myself) be ause it will mean that we’ve already seen the bottom & it’s not going to go down that low again.

So yeah, Go On Jimbo !!!!!

yeah the bottom is already in. thats not gonna change.

In my opinion, we have already reached the bottom when bitcoin hits the 5,000$ mark several times this year. With that, i think bitcoin will not go lower than that anymore because until now, it's already proven that we haven't see 4,000$ this year.

I think what you say is true that we have gone through those times, where the value is getting lower at that time. And $ 4.000 is "VERY" impossible. Maybe next month we will see it rise towards $ 7.000. Hopefully, he can move away from "BOTTOM" quickly.

Your post sparks a point of curiosity for me towards OP (Micpeep).

What triggers payment (to really confirm that the bottom is in) ?

Must the price go past previous ATH or is there a certain point, such as staying above $10k for 30 days in which you would make payment with the implication that the "bottom" has sufficiently been called.  Sorry if this question has been asked before, but after a quick perusal, I did not see the threshold point in which this particular "bottom" prediction is won.

We are heading to the last final months of this year but seems bitcoin is still below the pedal of accelerating forward. It still unclear to us whether a bull run is really going to happen or maybe next year so i predict that bitcoin will have a market value around 8,000$ only.

Payment is at end of year. And winner is the one that is closest to the bottom price. You probably mixed this one with some other game micgoossens is hosting.

yeah its just newyears night if theres no lower bottom than JIMBO's one , then its just me sending to JIMBO ....

end date=end date

and yeah theres another thing with an ATH as well, but the same thing also with an end date.

5 games runnin

this is the only one i wanna see left alone and be boring
;D

2120 pawel7777
2121 gentlemand
2255 vapourminer
2500 fabiorem
2873 7jaka7
2970 exstasie
3434 Tzupy
3650 jadenunderhill
3860 DeathAngel
3876 febo
3996 AlcoHoDL
4027 jojo69
4190 STT
4197 Spaceman_Spiff_Original
4350 Vasilije69
4700 Robin,Hood
4850 ssmc2
4925 criz2fer
4979 Dunkelheit667
4982 BillyBobZorton
4998 Last of the V8s
4999 Vin
5100 Nikola95
5134 LoyceV
5151 d_eddie
5248 iram1011
5264 LFC_Bitcoin
5420 mfort312 :)    if i'm right then this is the closest to it
5454 supermine 
5489 buwaytress 
5592 ChinkyEyes
5780 JimboToronto   
5824 Jet Cash
5878 talkbitcoin

never thought jimbo was gonna be send of his bottom throne

My prediction is suddenly nearby :o

I'm okay winning this, as long as I lose the BAKKT-game to vit05 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5056734.msg47589360#msg47589360) :D

that i do understand as i see the lowest for the moment is mfort @the moment
(@ another game i have been asked what my guess would be, said as close as possible to mfort guess )

haha lol

i'm curious where we are going to short term.....

LFC also in the MIX

Well, well, well, we didn't see that coming now, did we? Bitcoin still wants to give Jimbo boy a run for his coins! Took me totally by surprise. One point I was doing a tx and 6200 was almost reached. Next few hours I'm trying to repeat the tx and it was steadily moving down below $6k. 6 more weeks left, so lot of action yet to come!

So what's the "low" today you got from mic? Bitstamp showed $5,534 just now Coingecko has supermine I think closest?

https://i.imgur.com/e6xhMez.png

stamp

Judging by Bitstamp's order book (https://www.bitstamp.net/market/order_book/), I need to market sell about 2200BTC on there to be the winner :D

I'm just under 2200BTC short.

alomost @your number ..... but i think we both prefer other direction ;D

2120 pawel7777
2121 gentlemand
2255 vapourminer
2500 fabiorem
2873 7jaka7
2970 exstasie
3434 Tzupy
3650 jadenunderhill
3860 DeathAngel
3876 febo
3996 AlcoHoDL
4027 jojo69
4190 STT
4197 Spaceman_Spiff_Original
4350 Vasilije69
4700 Robin,Hood
4850 ssmc2
4925 criz2fer
4979 Dunkelheit667
4982 BillyBobZorton
4998 Last of the V8s
4999 Vin
5100 Nikola95
5134 LoyceV
5151 d_eddie
5248 iram1011
5264 LFC_Bitcoin     :)    if i'm right then this is the closest to it
5420 mfort312
5454 supermine 
5489 buwaytress 
5592 ChinkyEyes
5780 JimboToronto   
5824 Jet Cash
5878 talkbitcoin

UPDATE in times of bottom wars

I didn’t want to win this competition because it would have meant dipping below $6,000.
I now want to win it but not for the reason you guys would think.

I want to win it because it would mean it’s the low not because it would get me 0.125 bitcoin’s from mic.


Please no fucking lower man!

see if its gonna hold

Waiting for the year end dump  ;D

Hot damn I was close! Here’s to hoping LFC wins it, because that’s the last name I want see on this list.

Only just noticed this. What a fink.

Well, there're few other persons I want to win this competition, I think the majority of us were happy to let Jimbo win, but here we are again. Can't exactly say whether I was excited (I thought I had a chance haha) or disappointed that Bitcoin couldn't hold above $6k. But it's all short term for me and I'm sure for most of you. Am inclined to prefer a new low this 2018 then in 2019, though the 2020 results in my mind haven't changed (bullish of course!).

@mic looks like your other competition may already have a winner, unless Bitcoin makes a surprise in the reverse direction within 46 days ;)

I was awake until about 1am, couldn’t sleep. I didn’t want to go to sleep, was worried I’d wake up & see....well I don’t even know what I thought the price could be.

Hopefully this is as low as it goes but there could be more games by the BCH ass holes today.

It’s going to be a long day

Well, we are getting closer and closer to my 3650 bet. Not very happy about that..

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2873 7jaka7
2970 exstasie
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3650 jadenunderhill
3860 DeathAngel
3876 febo
3996 AlcoHoDL
4027 jojo69
4190 STT
4197 Spaceman_Spiff_Original
4350 Vasilije69
4700 Robin,Hood
4850 ssmc2
4925 criz2fer
4979 Dunkelheit667
4982 BillyBobZorton
4998 Last of the V8s
4999 Vin
5100 Nikola95
5134 LoyceV
5151 d_eddie      :)    if i'm right then this is the closest to it
5248 iram1011     
5264 LFC_Bitcoin   
5420 mfort312
5454 supermine 
5489 buwaytress 
5592 ChinkyEyes
5780 JimboToronto   
5824 Jet Cash
5878 talkbitcoin

UPDATE in times of bottom wars

a little bit and d_eddie could take his second win of me ::)

Oh well. That's that.

I don't get a prize for being in the lead for the longest time, do I?

 ::)

I don't know if this current price level is the bottom and we should expect a reversal any moment from now as it has gotten to the level that no one expects in July when op open this thread.  investment is a serious game and I will like to encourage some of us that has been holding to holding as bitcoin is going to definitely recover.

Man 2 posts higher then your post is list of around 50 people that posted their expected lowest price of this year and big part of them have way lower price as it is now. Up to $2120.    How can you post that in July no one expected this low if almost everyone did expected this low?

i think i made a mistake......... sorry guy's but D_eddie is in the lead i guess

STAMP=5199

right?
lol would be his second WIN ::)
if it stays like this

2120 pawel7777
2121 gentlemand
2255 vapourminer
2500 fabiorem
2873 7jaka7
2970 exstasie
3434 Tzupy
3650 jadenunderhill
3860 DeathAngel
3876 febo
3996 AlcoHoDL
4027 jojo69
4190 STT
4197 Spaceman_Spiff_Original
4350 Vasilije69
4700 Robin,Hood
4850 ssmc2
4925 criz2fer
4979 Dunkelheit667
4982 BillyBobZorton
4998 Last of the V8s
4999 Vin
5100 Nikola95
5134 LoyceV
5151 d_eddie      :)    if i'm right then this is the closest to it
5248 iram1011     
5264 LFC_Bitcoin   
5420 mfort312
5454 supermine 
5489 buwaytress 
5592 ChinkyEyes
5780 JimboToronto   
5824 Jet Cash
5878 talkbitcoin

UPDATE in times of bottom wars

I think d_eddie is spot on today, and my prediction is pretty close now. I haven't been able to find an official lowest (and I don't use Bitstamp), but financialcontent.com (https://markets.financialcontent.com/stocks/quote/historical?Symbol=997%3A1900280001) puts it at 5150 now.

Update: it seems to have completely skipped me :( But let's stay positive: my prediction was pretty accurate until now, based on this:

Now let's hope the rest of my prediction becomes a reality too:

$5109 new low - ref: Stamp

Nikola95 new leader atm

Edit - $5087 new low

2120 pawel7777
2121 gentlemand
2255 vapourminer
2500 fabiorem
2873 7jaka7
2970 exstasie
3434 Tzupy
3650 jadenunderhill
3860 DeathAngel
3876 febo
3996 AlcoHoDL
4027 jojo69
4190 STT
4197 Spaceman_Spiff_Original
4350 Vasilije69
4700 Robin,Hood
4850 ssmc2
4925 criz2fer
4979 Dunkelheit667  :) if i'm right then this is the closest to it
4982 BillyBobZorton :(
4998 Last of the V8s :(
4999 Vin  :(
5100 Nikola95  :( 
5134 LoyceV :(
5151 d_eddie :(   
5248 iram1011  :(   
5264 LFC_Bitcoin  :( 
5420 mfort312 :(
5454 supermine :(
5489 buwaytress :(
5592 ChinkyEyes :(
5780 JimboToronto :(   
5824 Jet Cash :(
5878 talkbitcoin :(

UPDATE in times of bottom wars

Well looks like Vin will be hoping the 5k barrier holds, but phew, it's not even been a week since the slide started and we're seeing those sell volumes just pile on. Couldn't really catch a good deal even on LBC trying to outjump the other traders today, everything just started to give way soon as I woke up to make my regular sell.

@LoyceV, and yeah now it just flew by you. I'm *quite* excited to find out how low we can go, because oh yes, when the next ATH comes, every floor broken this year (or next) will weigh in on how high it goes. Years suits me fine... but yeah 2020 seems a suitable period for priming. I know everyone knows about halving but still feel it'll be the very first one participated in and expected by all them institutionals and their big money.

Only 6 weeks till end of the year. So yes slowly things will get crystallize.   It is strange so many are surprised with how prices decrease, but on other hand more then half people in this game predicted lower prices as it is right now.

just but many did also been hooked UP on the HOPIUM .... hoping not to go under jimbo's bottom price

It is already low and probably the lowest itself of the year. So we can see that might be at this level big players now will start buying heavily as it has become quite cheap now and thus they can make millions from it as once they buy market will start to rise and sell at 10k as well so double the returns on your investment now.

Market doesnt move in straight lines, thats the biggest thing.   Would be too easy otherwise, thats a good incidence of a previous top at this price.   I believe it was decent volume even if it was last year, news about China or something was it?    Typically the market wants to shake out the shorts not just the longs, people know they can force others to close out even if they themselves were intending to just flick the short switch at the higher price again.   Its all games to see who can guess where the real weight is, we are all dancing on a log in river

https://i.imgur.com/59aSXls.png
2017


 I see they are still messing around with the forked chains of BTC but nice twist in the road would be 5454 now to check the last price range

I'm usually not that selfish. But in this case... Let's hope the bottom is in. :-\

edit: And criz2fer is currently the winner, we should wish him good luck!

I would guess that fabiorem is going to win this - apart from anything else s/he has a very wide range within which to win ...

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3860 DeathAngel
3876 febo
3996 AlcoHoDL
4027 jojo69
4190 STT
4197 Spaceman_Spiff_Original
4350 Vasilije69
4700 Robin,Hood
4850 ssmc2              :)  if i'm right then this is the closest to it
4925 criz2fer :(
4979 Dunkelheit667  :(
4982 BillyBobZorton :(
4998 Last of the V8s :(
4999 Vin  :(
5100 Nikola95  :( 
5134 LoyceV :(
5151 d_eddie :(   
5248 iram1011  :(   
5264 LFC_Bitcoin  :( 
5420 mfort312 :(
5454 supermine :(
5489 buwaytress :(
5592 ChinkyEyes :(
5780 JimboToronto :(   
5824 Jet Cash :(
5878 talkbitcoin :(

UPDATE in times of bottom wars

5 running games with non action almost ..... from all 5 i hoped this one to be dead as F*** till end date, pity its the only one with non stop ACTION ::)

fuxxake :P

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3860 DeathAngel
3876 febo
3996 AlcoHoDL
4027 jojo69
4190 STT
4197 Spaceman_Spiff_Original
4350 Vasilije69
4700 Robin,Hood    :)  if i'm right then this is the closest to it
4850 ssmc2  :(           
4925 criz2fer :(
4979 Dunkelheit667  :(
4982 BillyBobZorton :(
4998 Last of the V8s :(
4999 Vin  :(
5100 Nikola95  :( 
5134 LoyceV :(
5151 d_eddie :(   
5248 iram1011  :(   
5264 LFC_Bitcoin  :( 
5420 mfort312 :(
5454 supermine :(
5489 buwaytress :(
5592 ChinkyEyes :(
5780 JimboToronto :(   
5824 Jet Cash :(
5878 talkbitcoin :(

UPDATE in times of bottom wars

5 running games with non action almost ..... from all 5 i hoped this one to be dead as F*** till end date, pity its the only one with non stop ACTION ::)

let it be robin hood and the stop here BTC
robin hood has given enough cheap coins from the rich to the poor by NOW

https://twitter.com/jebus911/status/1064653612679405568

starting to really know this

It going dooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

2120 pawel7777
2121 gentlemand
2255 vapourminer
2500 fabiorem
2873 7jaka7
2970 exstasie
3434 Tzupy
3650 jadenunderhill
3860 DeathAngel
3876 febo
3996 AlcoHoDL
4027 jojo69
4190 STT
4197 Spaceman_Spiff_Original   :)  if i'm right then this is the closest to it
4350 Vasilije69 :(
4700 Robin,Hood :(
4850 ssmc2  :(           
4925 criz2fer :(
4979 Dunkelheit667  :(
4982 BillyBobZorton :(
4998 Last of the V8s :(
4999 Vin  :(
5100 Nikola95  :( 
5134 LoyceV :(
5151 d_eddie :(   
5248 iram1011  :(   
5264 LFC_Bitcoin  :( 
5420 mfort312 :(
5454 supermine :(
5489 buwaytress :(
5592 ChinkyEyes :(
5780 JimboToronto :(   
5824 Jet Cash :(
5878 talkbitcoin :(

UPDATE in times of bottom wars

5 running games with non action almost ..... from all 5 i hoped this one to be dead as F*** till end date, pity its the only one with non stop ACTION ::)

so its maybe gonna be SPACEMAN ..... instantly regain that legendary status

bottom 3900

it is difficult to predict because the price decline is still ongoing, there is an analyst but I forget the name, he predicts the lowest price can reach 1500, but the price in my opinion is too low, and the possibility is very small to achieve it

Yup slowly my prediction s getting true.   Sometimes even broken clock is right :P



The more price of Bitcoin decrease, more room Bitcoin will have for growth :)

Bottm:  1650

That would be courtesy of our analysts and experts at Bloomberg, that's what they said today anyway, 1,500. I'm not saying it's impossible, I've never said any price to be impossible, top or bottom. Just the way of the world, and just the way of Bitcoin.

Every day I check back here, we get a new guy and spaceman looks like he'll hold the lead. Lots of space between Tzupy at 3400 and exstacie at 2970 ;)

Of course, you are the smartest one in the room.

Entry of new guesses ended about a month ago.  So of course, guesses would be more bearish after certain levels of support are broken, so don't try to act like you are providing insight with your late to the party input.   ::) ::)

2120 pawel7777
2121 gentlemand
2255 vapourminer
2500 fabiorem
2873 7jaka7
2970 exstasie
3434 Tzupy
3650 jadenunderhill
3860 DeathAngel
3876 febo
3996 AlcoHoDL
4027 jojo69 :)         just keep the smiley FACE !!
4190 STT :(
4197 Spaceman_Spiff_Original  :(
4350 Vasilije69 :(
4700 Robin,Hood :(
4850 ssmc2  :(           
4925 criz2fer :(
4979 Dunkelheit667  :(
4982 BillyBobZorton :(
4998 Last of the V8s :(
4999 Vin  :(
5100 Nikola95  :( 
5134 LoyceV :(
5151 d_eddie :(   
5248 iram1011  :(   
5264 LFC_Bitcoin  :( 
5420 mfort312 :(
5454 supermine :(
5489 buwaytress :(
5592 ChinkyEyes :(
5780 JimboToronto :(   
5824 Jet Cash :(
5878 talkbitcoin :(

UPDATE in times of bottom wars

Jojo just win this F***ing thin already ::)

Dam it, Spaceman_Spiff took my glory. I wasnt even top guess for a day :(     What would be typical is the area isnt exact and it has to bounce twice before putting in a bottom, meaning alot of doubt while its occurring.    I dont think it'll be easy as was this competition pretty tough to say.   I would like to have been roughly right, in the correct area and its putting in the foundations for a rise here.

I wont post the pic but the 4200 price or so was the bottom of a descending wedge by some estimations of technical charts I've seen posted.  It does of course need to break out of that descent to then be bullish.
The 4730 price as a recent top goes way back and also can be seen as some support recently on the way down but its a long term level so valid hesitation or point of profit taking.  Its possible the price is less doubtful then it looks if it was just long term reaction.

Higher lows, bullish above 4214

I'm not actually liking my chances

Don’t Jinx yourself.... its bad for the entire FORUM  :-\

Just say : i Will take this F***ing thing down

yeah it are strange times to try and predict a bottom on new years eve ::)

Agreed. To each his own, and if you've been relying on good income from bounty, then you must have known that was never going to last. Day trading though, shouldn't day traders be loving this volatility? I mean, shorting for >10% 2 days in less than a week isn't something you can experience in many other markets, and then of course if you're like jojo69 predicting those floors, your buy orders are already 5% or more in day trading.

I'm sticking around as well. Mostly by choice too!

hey guys i'm not willing to JYNX anything but JOJO's another day surviving his bottom prediction

only 39 days to go




then again F*** its BTC anything can happen

our thoughts and prayers are with you jojo.

Spike down .... keep that bottom and don’t yoyo that much
Just UP is good

https://i.redd.it/amhasagfvlbz.png

You can do it! All you need is just one tiny drop. Dont let me down now please!!!!

^
Please let him down BTC focus on the other 4-games btc
Come on you can do it ;D

OK, so first to $3789 and then to $11846  until end of year?  Deal!!

who wouldn't wanna take that deal ? ;D

Of course, it would be short-term scary, but o.k.  that's fine.  Make it so!!!!


http://scifiward.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/keepcalm.jpg

be calm and go all in

steady as she goes

Change the list tomorrow :(
Deep dive insight
:-/
Fuck for the night
GL and hodl BTC’ers

2120 pawel7777
2121 gentlemand
2255 vapourminer
2500 fabiorem
2873 7jaka7
2970 exstasie
3434 Tzupy
3650 jadenunderhill :)   strong enough hands shake shake ??
3860 DeathAngel :(
3876 febo :(
3996 AlcoHoDL :(
4027 jojo69 :(
4190 STT :(
4197 Spaceman_Spiff_Original  :(
4350 Vasilije69 :(
4700 Robin,Hood :(
4850 ssmc2  :(           
4925 criz2fer :(
4979 Dunkelheit667  :(
4982 BillyBobZorton :(
4998 Last of the V8s :(
4999 Vin  :(
5100 Nikola95  :( 
5134 LoyceV :(
5151 d_eddie :(   
5248 iram1011  :(   
5264 LFC_Bitcoin  :( 
5420 mfort312 :(
5454 supermine :(
5489 buwaytress :(
5592 ChinkyEyes :(
5780 JimboToronto :(   
5824 Jet Cash :(
5878 talkbitcoin :(

UPDATE in times of bottom wars

I’m guessing $3200? Don’t think we’ll see it for long though...

Anyone can be arguably within "genius" status and call a bottom that is more likely to be moar accurate 5 months after everyone else and with the hindsight of several previous support areas being broken.   ::) ::)

By the way, probably a more thread appropriate topic (meaning kind of on-topic) would be asserting whether exstasie or Tzupy would be the winner because your $3,200 bottom prediction seems to be almost exactly in between their guessed amounts... although if $3,200 were to become the exact bottom, then exstasie would be the winner.. So is that what you are saying?  Scary as is seems, we are not too far from such numbers, currently.

2970 exstasie
3434 Tzupy

Yeeehaaa

Tens of predictions and we are already near the bottom of the list. Considering there was a real prize on stake I would say almost no one was really expecting this lows. Much less if we also take into consideration that maybe some people chose to go lower for a wider spot or as some sort of "hedge".

Interesting.

I could easily live with the current one to be the winner ::)

It’s a hopeful prediction. And yes, I’m saying it’s probably going to be one of those to get it since it’s going that way at the moment  and will hopefully bottom out there..

Tzupy looks like he'll walk away with the trophy. Relief rally is due and there's unlikely to be time in 2018 for further lows.

^

2120 pawel7777
2121 gentlemand
2255 vapourminer
2500 fabiorem
2873 7jaka7
2970 exstasie
3434 Tzupy                    :) we got a winner if we do belief YEFI
3650 jadenunderhill :(
3860 DeathAngel :(
3876 febo :(
3996 AlcoHoDL :(
4027 jojo69 :(
4190 STT :(
4197 Spaceman_Spiff_Original  :(
4350 Vasilije69 :(
4700 Robin,Hood :(
4850 ssmc2  :(           
4925 criz2fer :(
4979 Dunkelheit667  :(
4982 BillyBobZorton :(
4998 Last of the V8s :(
4999 Vin  :(
5100 Nikola95  :( 
5134 LoyceV :(
5151 d_eddie :(   
5248 iram1011  :(   
5264 LFC_Bitcoin  :( 
5420 mfort312 :(
5454 supermine :(
5489 buwaytress :(
5592 ChinkyEyes :(
5780 JimboToronto :(   
5824 Jet Cash :(
5878 talkbitcoin :(

UPDATE in times of bottom wars

There is over a month left, and if in the mean time price will drop below 3202, probably extasie will win.
I'll prepare an EW-based explanation for my prediction (it wasn't entirely a lucky guess) and post in a couple of days.

^
thats nice man, curious to read about that ;D

mother fucker

 :(

Can we now said we are at the bottom now.  Bitcoin keep going down and if it continues like this it might go below $1000 before end of this year.  I think there is no bottom this time and we might need to see reverse of price any time the market decided.

Yeah well done Tzupy you bleeding savant. I know we've got a good five weeks left to close 2018 but the bounce came as expected and people will probably not be able to drive it any lower than the weekend's low even if they tried.

Even if it does, there's a huge $500 or so padding between Tzupy and extasie. But hey, let's not tempt destiny;)

Eat up, people. We've never had it so good.

That's optimistic ;D.

And there has to be a bottom, even if it's zero.

It feels like the plane is trying to land before it takes off again, it's up to you whether you decide we're at the point where the seatbelt signs are turned on, or the point where we've hit the tarmac (that runway could well be on a hill itself, but not a cliff)...

---

I think we got too excited about seeing the dead cat bounce yesterday...

If your intention is to LONG term hodl, occasionelly buy a dip to increase stash and to HODL on Then the price is perfect and it wouldn’t matter Dick if its a few buck’s lower or higher.....
If you seek to daytrade yeah Then its anybody’s guess wtf to do ::)
And one day you Will be the wizard of crypto and the next day you Will be the salty F*** cause of bad trading moments

i would place my bet on fabiorem price  ;D

I hope not.

GO Tzupy!!!!!!!!!!!  Let the bottom already be "in"!!!!!!!!

Shall we pray, together?

i pray @ every price to not be broken  :P

That praying from you mic, does not seem to be helping, currently.

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

Maybe try some reverse psychology, and see if you can trick BTC into going up?   :o

my box of tricks already ran dry.....

so its just sitting this one out, and see what the near-mid-long'term futures gonna bring me/us.....

meanwhile HODL and ..... we know the DRILL

still curious :)

Yeah, we all want to know. It looks like it will be the standing bottom at least until end of 2018 and anyways the bets are already set.

i must say 7 is my lucky Nr but to be the 7th lowest on this list .... i really didn't thought to go this deep anymore ::) certainly @ that time....

I was waiting for the next move to unfold, to improve the chances of my prediction winning.
Since the market needs to make a bullish double bottom in 6h - 12h MACD in order to establish a bottom, we may make a lower low,
in which case extasie's prediction will probably become true, and it would be up to him to offer a chart explanation.
6h PSAR just flipped to bearish, and if 12h PSAR will flip to bearish too, the market will have a good chance to make the last (for now) lower low.

THX for sharing, it will be exciting to follow who's gonna win.... for me the bottom can be in already ;D
but we will have to follow BTC's narrative no matter what ....

Last month in

No that is not right that the price of BTC will reach down to $1000 as in that below point the miners will earn a lower income and then they will either stop mining or will not sell their coins and will hold them so a supply will be restricted to the market and the demand of the coin will bounce back the value of Bitcoin. So any time the price goes down the holders do not sell their coins.

I didn't see that coming. We hope that it will be the last bottom for this year.

its always possible but my thoughts where also not this deep "my thoughts really doesn't matter its always wrong" but thats why i'm such a good hodler
i only increased for years right now and never sold BIG amounts #micgTOPhodler ::)

Ah damn it, I may have to admit being wrong here. Karhu is owning it :'(

I think a lot of people seem to be calling a new bottom at 3100$ now. Not sure how it'll play out and whether the competition will end between now and if/when it falls to a lower value like that.

It looks a bit inevitable at the moment though based on the charts. Everything's going downwards, but it's a very new market so it's quite difficult to predict what's going on. Equally difficult to know if it's maniuplation or not as there aren't too many continuous volume spikes...

1500~2200
my guess,(also about 99.99% or everyone saying its all over and dead)

Dead again for the 99xxx... time ?

I’d say we’re in the millions now...

Also, even a slight drop on a bull run means we’re dead. People said the coin was dead when we were nearing the top (the phrase has lost all meaning)...

Indeed would merit but sended my last one ....
a useless phrase in the world BTC

Say whaat? Woke up early cause of stupid Google ping news, I thought I already killed the bloody monitoring thing but still finds ways to invade my sleep, this time to tell me fresh lows happened - but not to Bitcoin. Still hanging in there, and Tzupy must be holding tight to see this month out. Just looked at top 10 after staying off it in a while and damn, have the others fallen worse or what?

Not exactly thrilled with BTC price, especially as needed a shitload of cash this month, so hard to kiss goodbye to so much hard-earned BTC - but now that my main expenses are paid off til Jan, I won't mind BTC dropping another 20% or so for a new low. Any payments I get in the next 4 weeks then should get my coins back at some respectable level.

Probably next Monday we'll find out the winner, and I believe extasie is favored.

I was going to sell a few days ago. I’m not sure why I didn’t but oh well.

20% is quite a reasonable drop and would put the bottom at about £2100 and then the bull run ;D.

It took longer than I expected, but IMO now 99% chance extasie's prediction wins.

Now that we're in the $3K range, all this mega-bearish sentiment is getting to me. The crash from $6K happened so fast, and there hasn't been any reaction off the 200-week MA. I wouldn't be surprised to plunge right into the $2,000s here.

Then again, when I feel this type of fear, we're usually near a swing low. :-X

Ikr? I would've expected some kind of reaction by now, but it just keeps plunging. It's almost like the bubble top in reverse.

Anyway, good luck with your guess. You've still got a decent safety buffer with only a few weeks left.

Yeah seems there’s a NEW Guy in the lead ;)

^

2120 pawel7777
2121 gentlemand
2255 vapourminer
2500 fabiorem
2873 7jaka7
2970 exstasie              :)
3434 Tzupy :(
3650 jadenunderhill :(
3860 DeathAngel :(
3876 febo :(
3996 AlcoHoDL :(
4027 jojo69 :(
4190 STT :(
4197 Spaceman_Spiff_Original  :(
4350 Vasilije69 :(
4700 Robin,Hood :(
4850 ssmc2  :(           
4925 criz2fer :(
4979 Dunkelheit667  :(
4982 BillyBobZorton :(
4998 Last of the V8s :(
4999 Vin  :(
5100 Nikola95  :( 
5134 LoyceV :(
5151 d_eddie :(   
5248 iram1011  :(   
5264 LFC_Bitcoin  :( 
5420 mfort312 :(
5454 supermine :(
5489 buwaytress :(
5592 ChinkyEyes :(
5780 JimboToronto :(   
5824 Jet Cash :(
5878 talkbitcoin :(

UPDATE in times of bottom wars

Common bitcoin, drop a little more until new year. :P 230$ drop would be perfect. Then we can moon.

I do not know if I understand it correct ... But if the price this year has dropped to about $3200, then everyone above "3434 Tzupy" have no chance of winning. So why publish this types in an updated list? Well, unless by respect that they take this challenge..  ;D

last days of this game going in

No sorry Im with micgoossens, I like the full form perspective stated contrasted to current pricing.    Especially when the price changes alot its interesting to see how many thought it'd stay near a certain price.    But I'm the kinda nerd who can stare at a graph for at least five minutes wondering about the various trends in play and interference.
I really thought I was being bearish here, like properly negative on shock moves and this would match just a brief spike down.    So the guess below that was 3000 (to me that was too far) and somehow even then I would have been a bit wrong and this was where the real spike appeared.    Hard to predict or imagine anything beyond the status quo and similarly I think people struggle to be correctly estimating our trajectory to an easily  possible spike into the 6600 area

3000 does relate to September 2017 bigger news, before the late year bull run.   It does figure as hard ground, I guess this is the resistance/buffer it takes to stop a train :D

extasie will be the winner i suppose (hope)

please kindly provide me an BTC address, and confirm when you have it please THX

i will post when send

very big % of early congrats sir

Exstasie should have it
Confirm so i can close it and start something NEW
One of the .....

Thx

Received, and with an extra 0.025 than expected too! :o

Thanks micgoossens, you're the man!

in the rules the price was 0.125 and if there was a kind of explanation why that price .... an additional 0.025 :)

that why the 0.025

cheers mate