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Title: Why is POT illegal?
Post by: jongameson on February 07, 2014, 02:30:02 PM
I used to use it when my parents were cool, and were OK with a chocolate chip cookie coming from SR shrink wrapped in plastic twice.

But now all of a sudden they're worried about the cops, cause some guys in the bad part of town got caught trying to sell 12 kg of cocaine.

Getting my own apartment won't help, cause it's still illegal

what should I do?  even if I lived in Colorado it would still be I-L-L-E-G-A-L
due to the DEA


Title: Re: Why is POT illegal?
Post by: hilariousandco on February 07, 2014, 02:32:22 PM
I used to use it when my parents were cool, and were OK with a chocolate chip cookie coming from SR shrink wrapped in plastic twice.

But now all of a sudden they're worried about the cops, cause some guys in the bad part of town got caught trying to sell 12 kg of cocaine.

Getting my own apartment won't help, cause it's still illegal

what should I do?  even if I lived in Colorado it would still be I-L-L-E-G-A-L
due to the DEA

Are the DEA still busting people in Colorado? Do your parents check your mail? How would they know? Get it sent to a friends or something.


Title: Re: Why is POT illegal?
Post by: jongameson on February 07, 2014, 02:37:41 PM
I used to use it when my parents were cool, and were OK with a chocolate chip cookie coming from SR shrink wrapped in plastic twice.

But now all of a sudden they're worried about the cops, cause some guys in the bad part of town got caught trying to sell 12 kg of cocaine.

Getting my own apartment won't help, cause it's still illegal

what should I do?  even if I lived in Colorado it would still be I-L-L-E-G-A-L
due to the DEA

Are the DEA still busting people in Colorado? Do your parents check your mail? How would they know? Get it sent to a friends or something.

i can't go to friends, cause if they find a small amount in my car (like a tiny NUG), I could still be arrested and charged

i've seen it happen in Dubai.  it could happen just as easy here, in the land of FREEDOM (what fucking freedom i'm afraid of leaving my FUCKING HOUSE
POLICE STATE If u ASK ME

in FUCKING UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

FUCK THIS COUNTRY
AND ALL THAT IT STANDS FOR.


Title: Re: Why is POT illegal?
Post by: hilariousandco on February 07, 2014, 02:44:05 PM
i've seen it happen in Dubai.  it could happen just as easy here, in the land of FREEDOM (what fucking freedom i'm afraid of leaving my

Dubai is a little bit different from America.


Title: Re: Why is POT illegal?
Post by: stormbono on February 07, 2014, 03:01:21 PM
Well.... its not over here in the Netherlands..  ;D

Peace!


Title: Re: Why is POT illegal?
Post by: hilariousandco on February 07, 2014, 03:03:52 PM
Well.... its not over here in the Netherlands..  ;D

Peace!

I thought technically it still is illegal, but they just don't enforce it? Netherlands does seem to have one of the better ways of dealing with drugs and prostitution though. I like Amsterdam, it's a cool city.


Title: Re: Why is POT illegal?
Post by: Kiki112 on February 07, 2014, 03:23:28 PM
because of racism, immigrant mexicans use to use too much pot, in order to chase them out racist americans banned marijuana, and that's why marijuana is illegal today ;)


Title: Re: Why is POT illegal?
Post by: EvilPanda on February 07, 2014, 03:40:35 PM
because of racism, immigrant mexicans use to use too much pot, in order to chase them out racist americans banned marijuana, and that's why marijuana is illegal today ;)
Yeah exactly. Weed and shrooms were associated with ethnic minorities, that's why they banned them in the US. It used to be legal in Europe until ~ 20 years ago, but they banned it along with poppy under the western influence. Recently Czech Republic depenalized it, in many countries the old laws still exist, but if they cath you with it they just confiscate it and let you go with a warning.


Title: Re: Why is POT illegal?
Post by: Mitchell on February 07, 2014, 03:42:08 PM
Well.... its not over here in the Netherlands..  ;D

Peace!

I thought technically it still is illegal, but they just don't enforce it? Netherlands does seem to have one of the better ways of dealing with drugs and prostitution though. I like Amsterdam, it's a cool city.
Yes, it's still illegal officially, however it is tolerated. Meaning that you can buy and sell weed (in shops only) without having to worry about the police and stuff. There is one stupid thing, delivery to the shops is still illegal, because you aren't allowed to carry more then 30 grams.


Title: Re: Why is POT illegal?
Post by: guybrushthreepwood on February 07, 2014, 03:42:32 PM
because of racism, immigrant mexicans use to use too much pot, in order to chase them out racist americans banned marijuana, and that's why marijuana is illegal today ;)

Was not just Mexicans but African Americans too.

because of racism, immigrant mexicans use to use too much pot, in order to chase them out racist americans banned marijuana, and that's why marijuana is illegal today ;)

i thought it was against the law in Mexico too    8)

It probably wasn't back in the day.


Title: Re: Why is POT illegal?
Post by: DrHerbSmoker on February 07, 2014, 03:44:14 PM
depending where your located you wont get in trouble for a small amount or it will be a small fine. here in michigan in some parts if u have a smaller amount like under an oz then its only a 25$ fine. also its illegal causse the government cant control it there is so many people growing now thatit would be impossible to tax and regulate it. for every one thats legal theres 3-4 that are illegal and unkown about


Title: Re: Why is POT illegal?
Post by: Kiki112 on February 07, 2014, 03:50:17 PM
depending where your located you wont get in trouble for a small amount or it will be a small fine. here in michigan in some parts if u have a smaller amount like under an oz then its only a 25$ fine. also its illegal causse the government cant control it there is so many people growing now thatit would be impossible to tax and regulate it. for every one thats legal theres 3-4 that are illegal and unkown about

here you're allowed to have only 1g with you :D

that's bullshit but better then nothing still..


Title: Re: Why is POT illegal?
Post by: jongameson on February 07, 2014, 03:59:39 PM
it's so awesome that everyone's head is in order that people don't even need shrooms anymore.   and went so far as to make them ILLEGAL

it boggles the mind

we must be living in paradise!!


Title: Re: Why is POT illegal?
Post by: guybrushthreepwood on February 07, 2014, 04:05:46 PM
depending where your located you wont get in trouble for a small amount or it will be a small fine. here in michigan in some parts if u have a smaller amount like under an oz then its only a 25$ fine. also its illegal causse the government cant control it there is so many people growing now thatit would be impossible to tax and regulate it. for every one thats legal theres 3-4 that are illegal and unkown about

here you're allowed to have only 1g with you :D

that's bullshit but better then nothing still..

Where's that? I think you get it confiscated and a warning in the UK, but you probably wont be arrested. I hope we can achieve some decriminalisation in the near future.


Title: Re: Why is POT illegal?
Post by: EvilPanda on February 07, 2014, 04:10:22 PM
it's so awesome that everyone's head is in order that people don't even need shrooms anymore.   and went so far as to make them ILLEGAL

it boggles the mind

we must be living in paradise!!
Because the government thinks you're a moron. They have this idea of a model citizen and try to shape you to be one, and a model citizen can't blow off steam on his own, he has to use their alcohol (that's why you can't moonshine),and their drugs (kaffeine). You make your own, you go to jail, son!  :)


Title: Re: Why is POT illegal?
Post by: Kiki112 on February 07, 2014, 04:14:01 PM
it's so awesome that everyone's head is in order that people don't even need shrooms anymore.   and went so far as to make them ILLEGAL

it boggles the mind

we must be living in paradise!!
Because the government thinks you're a moron. They have this idea of a model citizen and try to shape you to be one, and a model citizen can't blow off steam on his own, he has to use their alcohol (that's why you can't moonshine),and their drugs (kaffeine). You make your own, you go to jail, son!  :)

so the solution is to make our own alchocol? :D

my family owns around 6-7 plums, we make brandy from it :D

it's kind of a region thing here, almost every 3rd guy from Slavonia in Croatia makes his own brandy especially in rural areas :D


Title: Re: Why is POT illegal?
Post by: guybrushthreepwood on February 07, 2014, 04:31:14 PM
it's so awesome that everyone's head is in order that people don't even need shrooms anymore.   and went so far as to make them ILLEGAL

it boggles the mind

we must be living in paradise!!
Because the government thinks you're a moron. They have this idea of a model citizen and try to shape you to be one, and a model citizen can't blow off steam on his own, he has to use their alcohol (that's why you can't moonshine),and their drugs (kaffeine). You make your own, you go to jail, son!  :)

so the solution is to make our own alchocol? :D

my family owns around 6-7 plums, we make brandy from it :D

it's kind of a region thing here, almost every 3rd guy from Slavonia in Croatia makes his own brandy especially in rural areas :D

6-7 plums? lol I guess you mean or plum trees. Does plum brandy taste much different to regular brandy?


Title: Re: Why is POT illegal?
Post by: DrHerbSmoker on February 07, 2014, 04:31:44 PM
i dont think it is 1g ive been pulled over with 2.5 oz and my card and was let go and got to keep my pot. was a simple stop an go traffic stop


Title: Re: Why is POT illegal?
Post by: DanielVG on February 07, 2014, 04:34:19 PM
I used to use it when my parents were cool, and were OK with a chocolate chip cookie coming from SR shrink wrapped in plastic twice.

But now all of a sudden they're worried about the cops, cause some guys in the bad part of town got caught trying to sell 12 kg of cocaine.

Getting my own apartment won't help, cause it's still illegal

what should I do?  even if I lived in Colorado it would still be I-L-L-E-G-A-L
due to the DEA

Are the DEA still busting people in Colorado? Do your parents check your mail? How would they know? Get it sent to a friends or something.

i can't go to friends, cause if they find a small amount in my car (like a tiny NUG), I could still be arrested and charged

i've seen it happen in Dubai.  it could happen just as easy here, in the land of FREEDOM (what fucking freedom i'm afraid of leaving my FUCKING HOUSE
POLICE STATE If u ASK ME

in FUCKING UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

FUCK THIS COUNTRY
AND ALL THAT IT STANDS FOR.

your freedom is debatable!
You are free, to do as they tell you!


Title: Re: Why is POT illegal?
Post by: guybrushthreepwood on February 07, 2014, 04:39:47 PM
i dont think it is 1g ive been pulled over with 2.5 oz and my card and was let go and got to keep my pot. was a simple stop an go traffic stop

Your card? You mean like a medical card?


Title: Re: Why is POT illegal?
Post by: DrHerbSmoker on February 07, 2014, 04:45:02 PM
yes when u have your card in michigan u can carry up to 2.5 oz of cured and dried MMJ


Title: Re: Why is POT illegal?
Post by: pekv2 on February 07, 2014, 04:59:05 PM
because of racism, immigrant mexicans use to use too much pot, in order to chase them out racist americans banned marijuana, and that's why marijuana is illegal today ;)

because of racism, immigrant mexicans use to use too much pot, in order to chase them out racist americans banned marijuana, and that's why marijuana is illegal today ;)
Yeah exactly. Weed and shrooms were associated with ethnic minorities, that's why they banned them in the US. It used to be legal in Europe until ~ 20 years ago, but they banned it along with poppy under the western influence. Recently Czech Republic depenalized it, in many countries the old laws still exist, but if they cath you with it they just confiscate it and let you go with a warning.

because of racism, immigrant mexicans use to use too much pot, in order to chase them out racist americans banned marijuana, and that's why marijuana is illegal today ;)

Was not just Mexicans but African Americans too.

because of racism, immigrant mexicans use to use too much pot, in order to chase them out racist americans banned marijuana, and that's why marijuana is illegal today ;)

i thought it was against the law in Mexico too    8)

It probably wasn't back in the day.

Good topic. I've never put it to real thought why it is/was illegal except that big pharm has been cockblocking by buying off the govt, well parts of the govt at least to keep it illegal. Yesterday was actually when I found out why it was illegal and it stunned me when I viewed the video in this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=451881.msg4975115#msg4975115

Which I will take you directly to
5:16 >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7fjKPTrA5X4#t=316

Which backs up the above quoted.


Title: Re: Why is POT illegal?
Post by: DrHerbSmoker on February 07, 2014, 05:00:09 PM
yes and its probally the most debated topic in history . its crazy how many people wonder why it is even legal and why we cnat use such a great substance


Title: Re: Why is POT illegal?
Post by: EvilPanda on February 07, 2014, 05:03:17 PM
it's so awesome that everyone's head is in order that people don't even need shrooms anymore.   and went so far as to make them ILLEGAL

it boggles the mind

we must be living in paradise!!
Because the government thinks you're a moron. They have this idea of a model citizen and try to shape you to be one, and a model citizen can't blow off steam on his own, he has to use their alcohol (that's why you can't moonshine),and their drugs (kaffeine). You make your own, you go to jail, son!  :)

so the solution is to make our own alchocol? :D

my family owns around 6-7 plums, we make brandy from it :D

it's kind of a region thing here, almost every 3rd guy from Slavonia in Croatia makes his own brandy especially in rural areas :D
Yeah heard of it, they also make it in Czech and Slovakia, called slivovica. They used to make it illegally but I heard it was then classified as natural medicine.
I know people who made alcohol for years, it's forbidden and you can even go to jail for selling home made alcohol but nobody ever cared. I had the pleasure to try regional specialities like moonshine, mead and walnut liqueur. :D


Title: Re: Why is POT illegal?
Post by: EvilPanda on February 07, 2014, 05:20:08 PM
it's so awesome that everyone's head is in order that people don't even need shrooms anymore.   and went so far as to make them ILLEGAL

it boggles the mind

we must be living in paradise!!
Because the government thinks you're a moron. They have this idea of a model citizen and try to shape you to be one, and a model citizen can't blow off steam on his own, he has to use their alcohol (that's why you can't moonshine),and their drugs (kaffeine). You make your own, you go to jail, son!  :)

so the solution is to make our own alchocol? :D

my family owns around 6-7 plums, we make brandy from it :D

it's kind of a region thing here, almost every 3rd guy from Slavonia in Croatia makes his own brandy especially in rural areas :D
Yeah heard of it, they also make it in Czech and Slovakia, called slivovica. They used to make it illegally but I heard it was then classified as natural medicine.
I know people who made alcohol for years, it's forbidden and you can even go to jail for selling home made alcohol but nobody ever cared. I had the pleasure to try regional specialities like moonshine, mead and walnut liqueur. :D

what makes moonshine so special?  the dangerous impurities?



Officially that it's not checked by authorities, so it can even be deadly (if they add methanol). It used to be a problem, especialy in Russia. They were stealing methanol from paint factories, filtering it and mixing with spirits. Real moonshine, if made properly, can be purer than factory made liquor.
Unofficially alcohol companies want the market to be as small as possible, so they pressure government to fight moonshiners. Have you ever thought why there are so many wineries and so little destilleries, even though it's easier to make spirits than wine?


Title: Re: Why is POT illegal?
Post by: DrHerbSmoker on February 07, 2014, 09:31:17 PM
i dont believe that moonshine can be more pure than factory implications. theres no way or te fda woulda approve


Title: Re: Why is POT illegal?
Post by: mrhelpful on February 07, 2014, 09:52:44 PM
Its been in on going thing heres the documentary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeC8y19UBt4

DEA needs to crack down ppl, to get funds to continue.