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UPDATE: Feb 15: Its come to my attention that someone has "name-trolled" us and just launched another stacy

I don't know who or what they're playing at but would highly advise people to avoid it.
For what its worth Stacy is actually working with us on making a really cool coin, these guys surely noticed all the domains/twitter/reddit accounts were taken and didn't have the decency to rename theirs.
(they also have lied several times in their thread claiming Stacy's support bla bla)

...so please BE WARY of this troll-coin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=466174.0   -david


OK so last week I was recalling back (in the very early Keiser Reports) and there was a twitter war between Stacy and Max  (who had the most followers etc.. there was a theme...)

....I've decided a little crypto war is in order....

We all followed the unfortunately premature launch of MAX (or tried to seeing as the forums were more hammered than a teenager on white lighting)

The coin is far from a cookie cutter scrypt clone which is nice.. there simply were not enough working clients on release.

The main issues were sadly because of buggy tx's in the cpuminer code, no windows binaries/GUIs etc..etc..
I've just checked and we still don't have any stratum patches in the wild yet sadly.

STCY will be launched much smoother than MAX.

Basically:

• there will be no rush
• there will be {windows,OSX,linux} clients (We might even clean up our old Makefiles in the source)
• there will be live pools with working {cuda,cpu,cg}miners.
• things will be tested
• things will be tested by somebody else
• things will be tested AGAIN

(there will also be linux binaries that work for at least 3 distros.. we might even test windows 8)

...hopefully soon we'll have some public code to implement working stratum so we can all deploy pools...



http://stacycoin.com/ (http://stacycoin.com/)

anyway.. nothing to get excited about yet.. STCY will not be rushed!

https://i.imgur.com/Pe0AyM2.png

pool-

Interesting coin :)

PM me when you have details, and I'll set up a pool  8)

PM me details and I'll create a pool for you :) 0% pool fee

Being absolutely serious...

This can not happen again.

Maxcoin was a clusterfuck. It was a detriment and embarrassment  to the alt community. Innovation is the only way this market will survive.

Maxcoin/stacycoin etc cannot happen again if we want legitimacy. These are all jokes unless you bring something new to the table (hype doesnt count)

Max and Stacy, let the market work without you guys trying to manipulate it with your hype and hysteria, the masses will get turned off which will be bad for this new great invention.

Will totally mine! xD

i tweeted a stacecoin idea to stacey herbert last night i think it would be a great idea and it would have a much smoother launch. everybody who hates maxcoin would jump on it. please make it.  :D

Maxcoin was the most epic scam launch,
nothing worked , windows wallet was broken , said its gonna be cpu coin but @@'s

and the biggest irony of all ...... is that he delayed 24hrs the FAIR (my @ss) launch because bitcointalk was down, ROLF!

so there are 2 reason all these was happent

A) Max is a tard & his dev team a bunch of n00b amatures

B) Master mind despicable me(MAX) + his minions  tryin to get all the altcoin world in his feet... guess what mister...you failed!

i found this picture and thought the image of stacey would make a good coin design. sorry i couldnt find one thats bigger..

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/29948741/Max+Keiser+and+Stacy+Herbert+MaxStacy.jpg

Does this coin's mom have it going on?

Thanks, if you get wind of any working stratum code we can try PM me also -ta

Cool thanks very much

I've popped it onto the twitter user: https://twitter.com/stacycoin

I'm uncertain on logo and branding stuff so can't commit to this being official or anything (yet)..

...I'm going to see if Stacy would like to get involved if nothing else, she is the boss after all :-)

What will be the MAX to STCY rate? Going to mine some of these so I can buy into the MAX market lol

The lack of windows gui was quite surprising yes, I had expected more.

The stray Makefiles in the first .zip for example showed what a rush the dev's were in...

To be fair their FAQ did say that GPU mining would be possible long before launch.

In response to the reasons:
A) the dev team actually seems pretty good, its certainly not a generic coin-gen job.. I also like Kimoto Gravity Well etc..  I hardly understand some of new algo stuff but its interesting and refreshing.

B) I feel I'm unqualified to comment on Max's "tard"iness..
I can say that he's got a fantastic track record of "telling it like it is" and starting general altruistic projects.
(eg: StartJOIN)

....he ain't no Bill Gates..... he's on our side
Kindly save your hate for people that deserve it please

B) I have no idea how you could think he's trying to take over the altcoin world lol

When? :D

interesting...do you need any help?

At least Bill Gates is rich enough to be giving away most of his money to charities, instead of speculating on BTC and altcoin markets. Choose your idols wisely.

No.... Just no..... We don't need more shitty coins

Especially ones where you manipulate the market with your "followers",
It annoys me that you sit there every week and bitch and moan about the governments manipulating everything and ruining everything then you launch your own coin, slag off every other coin telling them to watch out, causing all your followers to sell their investments in other coins so they can all buy your ill launched coin.

Rant over.... Still....no

And if this still becomes a "thing" it will fail

i will mine stacycoins ass for days.

STCY and MAX are fiancee. So cute  ;D

Stacy has given her blessings: https://twitter.com/stacyherbert/status/432111730571739136

I've read Max's twitter feed that says maxcoin was a fair launch with a few hiccups. I dont think this is telling it as it is.

Lmfao.

This video sums up the launch...........http://youtu.be/RDoaf5Vnh7s.

What's next? A Max & Stacey coin?

no this is war between maxcoin and stacycoin, but if its a draw... wet t-shirt competition.  ;)

In the meantime, check out my sig for a giveaway of MintCoin !!! :D

KeiserCoin and HerbertCoin, you know there coming

LOL))) Maybe someone will create AntiMaxCoin then for the haters))))))

a scrypt coin?

I would be interested in making a pool. Please pm me. I already have a max coin pool setup so I know how to do it.

http://max.stablehash.com/

Needs to be same algo as MAX imo if you really want it to compete, let the fans go head to head. Clone it, fix the issues with the wallets, fair launch and you might have something. If you're going scrypt, I wouldn't bother.

Always liked Stacey better... will mine

Count me in.

I'll mine and HODL.

nice try but i will not mine this shit, more luck next time...  :P

i dig it!

So now we are starting on the next batch of shitcoins with girls names now? Next boys names? Stupid

get this coin on mcxnow and it's gonna be a success immediately. https://mcxnow.com/ (https://mcxnow.com/?r=blablablupp)

will you provide a working AMD gpu miner ?

I think max is cuter

Theyre both ugly creatures of the night!

this coin is going to be such a failure! :P

 I can't wait to mine and dump this one too! Get ready with all your BTCs.

we'll obviously not everyone.

i mean the people who tried to mine max but couldnt because it was too difficult to set up can mine this one, it will be the same as max but better.

Dang Right!!

You mean you're not going to give us CPU miners why you and your buddies use GPU miners.

Don't create a scrypt coin - it's not going to be ASIC proof for much longer.

At least MAX is a non-scrypt GPU coin. I think STACY should be as well.

Lol, will mine.

im not the dev but i trust that he will do a good job.

This is exactly the same code as MAX, so although will be GPU miners on launch there are now mining pools with vardiff so CPU mining should still be quite profitable (I believe).

I told my friends about the MAX launch and they were all very sad as it was their first attempt to get into crypto but they couldn't.

I want to try and fix that for everyone, and I'm a big fan of MAX, its got some cool stuff going on under the hood.

If you'd like to contribute please do. I have compiled the preliminary version of STCY already, trying to nail the windows clients right now, lots more todo..

Any assistance appreciated :-)

NB: I have no GPUs, just a laptop with intel GM(something)

https://twitter.com/stacycoin/status/432111330607521792

the coin has to use a Memory hard Algorithm otherwise by the end of day 1 it wont be mineable by CPU...
Max didn't even have GPU mining software but it only took 2 days for the community to hack together some working solutions....
now they are well prepared, they will hit the network HARD the very second any new SHA-3 coin launches.
if Stacy is a clone of max then in the end all that will happen is Stacy will dilute Max and provide no real benefits to anyone involved except for a tiny few who jump on in the first few hours.

the coin has to use a Memory hard Algorithm otherwise by the end of day 1 it wont be mineable by CPU...
Max didn't even have GPU mining software but it only took 2 days for the community to hack together some working solutions....
now they are well prepared, they will hit the network HARD the very second any new SHA-3 coin launches.
if Stacy is a clone of max then in the end all that will happen is Stacy will dilute Max and provide no real benefits to anyone involved except for a tiny few who jump on in the first few hours.

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It would negate the use of fast GPUs and give CPU miners a fighting change IF............

.......... The coin reward did not go to the first user to submit it for confirmation, but instead was awarded to a random subsequent user, starting with 1-5, and progressing to 1-500 as the difficulty increased.  A fast GPU miner would have to wait, idle, until a sufficient number of solutions were found and the next block was sent out.

You might even consider increasing the randomness of the award rather than the difficulty level.  

Another idea to allow CPU users to mine successfully for the whole life of the coin.... make it unprofitable for GPU miners.  I suggest that the award be given out randomly to cypher solvers, but also the amount of coins awarded be randomized.

You would not need a RNG for this, you can use the time stamp, to 8 decimal places, using the last two or three digits, divide this value by 2,3,4 or 5, as the award position and/or amount of award. 

GPU miners would find other coins more profitable and a better use of their resource

wouldn't pools negate that?

ultimately to fend off DDOS attacks, any new coin should be launched with a full P2Pool Implementaiton.. and im guessing the distributed nature of P2Pool would even out the randomness of the rewards. even without P2Pool I think most pools smooth out randomness.

so im guessing your theory would only work well if everyone was solo mining..

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ultimately to fend off DDOS attacks, any new coin should be launched with a full P2Pool Implementaiton.. and im guessing the distributed nature of P2Pool would even out the randomness of the rewards. even without P2Pool I think most pools smooth out randomness.

so im guessing your theory would only work well if everyone was solo mining..


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My idea for making the use of GPUs unprofitable for this coin has to do with the idle time that GPUs would experience after finding a solution.  If the solution had to be found by 20-30 users, the block time would go up big time and make other coins more attractive.

I use P2Pool as well, thru MultiPool.us.  Advantage is getting some small fractions of coin per block per solution found by the pool, disadvantage is only getting a small fraction of the award when finding the solution. 

@stacycoin No premine. Other than that, put it out to the people to see what they want! And keep posting updates, great learning experience.


No one interested in putting out some options? I will start see what you guys think.


Scrypt-Jane (nfactor favoring gpu at the beginning and then cpu later in the coins life)
Hard limit, lets say 69,000,000 coins.
Reward halfing every 3 months
Kimoto gravity well
no premine

Taking on MaxCoin? Watching this. ;D

Make the coin cap HUGE (like 1337 billion) so that lots of tipping and good will goes on. Build a p2p pool within the client itself so that mining is super distributed and you can get fractions of stacys every minute by just installing a program and clicking "Dig it!" Make it only CPU mineable!

It is impossible to make it CPU ONLY mineable.  The way to keep GPU miners out is to make it unprofitable for them.  My suggestion is to award the coins not to the first solution presented, but to  a random solution solver. Instead of increasing the difficulty level each block, increase the number of solutions that must be presented before the award.

No matter how difficult the block, a GPU will always out perform a CPU.  If you were into computers in the 80s and early 90s, you would remember how long is took a CPU to load an image.  You could actually see the image load, line by line.  A 480x600 image in color, could take over a minute to load.  When Graphic cards came out, even the early 500k cards, the images loaded in a second or two. 

If the award goes to the 20th or 50th solution, randomly, the GPU miners will find it unprofitable.  When a new block is released for hashing, the GPU miners will solve it very quickly, and submit the solution.... while the CPU miners will eventually solve it, but lag behind.  The pools will likely be the first to submit, solo GPU miners second, and CPU miners third.  Awarding coins to the 20th solution will increase the chances that a solo CPU miner gets the coins, and not a pool or a GPU miner. 

There are plenty of coins for GPU and pools to mine.  It would be beneficial to the popularity of mining, if a coin, or two, was set up to largly favor CPU miners.... the average joe with a laptop.

Just... When ?

Thanks for your suggestions..  as an "average joe on a laptop"  I really do agree!

I think adjusting a reward system to reward not first but a randomly selected solution would still prove ineffectual. As the percentages of people submitting those would be determined simply by who's mining.. so if say there are 2 cpu miners and 1 GPU miner, the GPU miner would simply be re-doing that block and still get a better odds than either of the CPU guys.

I would sincerely love to see more CPU miners (botnets be damned, I want my mum to be able to mine even just for a slice)..   To make STCY CPU only I'd need to rework the coin against quark or primecoin.

Its all appealing as I am only a CPU miner myself but I need to try and keep this project to its goals.

That is:
- no pre-mine etc
- Code is strictly downstream of MAX.  which means GPUs will be mining from the get go (Shikata ga nai)
- A really fabulous launch  (this is where most of the work will be going)


I'm currently trying to get the maxcoin-qt client fixed but won't stay too obsessed on it.

No launch date announced yet but good progress has been made, a test genesis booted etc..

Currently establishing relations with trusted pools, website + docs being developed

I'm planning to do some node tests this week (possibly tonight) and test+document deployment of STCY pools and 1gh's cpuminerd and Ahmeds stratum code.

Maybe once STCY is in the wild and stuff we can look a keccak enabled CPU coin, I suspect its already been done actually but haven’t the time to segway there yet. My workstation currently mining SRC for what its worth, not got the time to investigate others


... then again.. maybe STCY should be a CPU only clone.. I'll propose the question on twitter to see what reaction I get  (at least that way I wouldn't need/want to fix the miner in the -qt wallet)

Stay tuned buddy... we will ensure there at least a weeks warning

How effective is the standard "mom and pop laptop" currently at mining Quark, or any other "CPU coin"?

The only way a laptop is going to mine anything effectively for more than a few hours is if it's being used to control a botnet, or rented cloud power and VM's.

I have quite a few GPUs. But, I agree with this dude or dude'et.

lol wtf is this shit

New shit

Well there Nocturnal, I have two old laptops running 24/7 performing CPU mining on DOGE.  I get 14K hashrate per laptop..... not very great, but better than just letting them sit on the shelf, unused.  It generates around 75 DOGE a day thru Multipool.us.

So CPU mining is possible with laptops.... just not as profitable as ASIC or GPU mining.

Making this GPU proof is simple. Make it a primecoin fork with low starting difficulty around 7.0 or less. This will allow everyone with lower end cpus a chance at finding a block before the difficulty gets too high and favors only the overclocked i7's

A primecoin fork will also keep most of the pool operators away.

Max is a loser.
Stacy is a loser.
Dev is a loser.
===========+/+

3 losers, 3 losers can't be good!

NEXT!

no it wont.. all it will do is give a botnet operator a very good chance at taking most of the coins.

STACYCOIN.......TITS ABOVE THE MAXCOIN

Let the games begin! ;D

DAMN whaa great ideassss

if its not scryot i willl have to kill myslef ..i love scrypt coins so much i keep changing my forum name and making clone of Tenebrix

is it hard to make  anew coin ? does yoooo need a good reason or can it just be teh same as teh coin you copied with adifferent name and icon ????

man yooooour smart cna i learnz dfrom yoo ?

i think this will be the same as max but apparently better, as maxcoin has been out for a while their are qt wallets and compiled gpu miners available. i still cant understand why the maxcoin devs gave everyone the masters to compile them selves within an hour of the launch, i personally couldnt get it all working in time.  :-[

so if their is a gpu miner available prior to launch everyone can test it first on a maxcoin pool so they know its working. pools ready at the launch would be a bonus too.  :D

Yes we will not release untill we have all the required stuff ready, windows gui wallets, stratum code, cgminer all of it
I've even got a few minor MAX patches in the pipeworks.

Work is going pretty well, been working with Stacy on some idea's we can't make public (yet).

New website almost ready..

...we also have a name-troll who's jumped into the game to deal with now: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=466174.msg5153705#msg5153705

P lease make sure there is a faucet for us poorer peeps lol working hard to collect coin and do some giveaways even if there is no premining. ;D

Well because we're not pre-mining I'm not sure how I could fund a faucet. I will look into it though, maybe we can get donations or something... I do get your point, I'm one of the poorer peeps also ;)

I spent most of my #MAX getting some of the code they/we need bountied btw

Yup  ;)

So, why support this pricks? If you'll make the coin easy mineable at laptops, suckers with botnets will take it. If you'll make GPU coin - GPU farmers will be first etc etc


I believe the only "fair" algorythm is PoS, and it makes sense. You believe in this coin? Then buy it and you'll have more and more!

Hey, we're keeping the algo and code pure from MAX, its a little challenging on the build side as keccak is quite new but PoS (and I'm a big PPC fan) is not really part of the scheme I'm afraid sorry

https://i.imgur.com/H6UxjoN.jpg

hope for a new innovative coin, not the same old scam coins.  :P

Cool!

HOPE?

Hope is for lazy losers.

Hope is the opposite of "DO" and "SELF RELIANCE"

Can I ask who are these people?

Nope. Hope is the belief that all will be fine. It's optimism and faith, believing in good future and fortune.
Hope makes people stronger.  

Hope is a light in the tunnel.

Without hope people stay losers instead of trying with faith to change something and not give up.
Without hope you already gave up and failed... and that's a state of real lazyness.  

World is full of volatility and uncertainty. Doing is doing. Each action can have many effects, not only what you think it will be. Hope is a good magic which actually works. And it is a natural prayer which works too.    

yes make stacy look like the predator.. she will appreciate it more than the pink stacy logo lol...

Err, in that case, why not just stick with primecoin?

its supposed to be a play on the obama poster.

http://artsonearth.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Barak-Obamas-Hope-poster.jpg

i was having a play around with some pop art software for a coin design.

https://i.imgur.com/TePwket.jpg

dont worry, luckily their are already some people working on a coin design.  :P

Max Keiser and Stacy Herbert (They got married last year I think)

I'd say they have done more from crypto and for educating people about financial corruption than anyone else.
Really nice people and they have covered many interesting subjects.

I've followed alternative media for years, and almost everyone I respect has been on the Keiser Report, this is a testimony to how well read they are.

Checkout Keiser Report streams.. (3 each week) : https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=keiser+report
They have been doing a radio feed for over 10 years too: http://www.maxkeiser.com/category/tam-lon/

I first saw Max on some "alternative" media 5 or so years ago, when I saw he had a show I was hooked.

Follow them on twitter, they pretty much seem to spend all day spreading interesting stories.

Take the red pill  :o

Follow the rabbit

max is great, found out about his show when i started watching RT a couple years back. i even have 3 max keiser 1oz silver coins.  ;)

Keiser is widely known as a pump and dump artist.  he uses his platform on RT to pump whatever he is selling at the time.  You should have seen how hard he was pumping silver at the very top and people were eating it up.  A lot of people got into Maxcoin specifically because of his reputation for pump and dumps and were looking for a quick buck.  This coin will be no different.  

except for the fact that stacy is a nobody.. so its likely to be more dump than pump... if it even gets off the ground... the other stacy coin is already almost dead lol

 
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except for the fact that stacy is a nobody.. so its likely to be more dump than pump... if it even gets off the ground... the other stacy coin is already almost dead lol
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You haven't done any research prior to making that statement, Alphi.   Do a Goggle search on "Stacy Herbert, Michael Phillips".  If you dig deep enough you will get to the really scandalous part.  If you are lazy, you can start with her International Movie Data Base entry:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1243170/?ref_=nmbio_bio_nm

except for the fact that stacy is a nobody.. so its likely to be more dump than pump... if it even gets off the ground... the other stacy coin is already almost dead lol
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You haven't done any research prior to making that statement, Alphi.   Do a Goggle search on "Stacy Herbert, Michael Phillips".  If you dig deep enough you will get to the really scandalous part.  If you are lazy, you can start with her International Movie Data Base entry:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1243170/?ref_=nmbio_bio_nm
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and i meant that in the context of the bitcoin space... i have never seen her participate in anything bitcoin other than talking to max in rt so her audience exposure is limited to people who already know about max. and max is nothing more than a mouthpiece for the russian government to use to piss off american power brokers. yes max is good at what he does.. preaching to the converted... but I've never considered any of his pumps good investment advice. we're still waiting for litecoin to hit $50 as max predicted LOLz

if I have never seen someone give a lecture about bitcoins alt coins etc, participate in any free online debate/discussion, participate in online public forums OR go to conferences with regulators and authorities, then yes in my eyes that makes them a nobody...

but with that being said.. I am a miner so if people want to buy the coin.. then I will participate and help out by mining the coin... that is the nature of a free market... giving people what they want, as long as it doesn't kill them and it isn't illegal...
 

@Alphi.

The STACYCOIN will be even bigger than the MAXcoin because the developers will have all he mistakes of the MaxCoin rollout fixed for their rollout. 

You will see the software for wallets and mining up early, the pools will be setup, and the start will be announced far enough in advance for even "joe bag-of-donuts" to get a crack at the first coin blocks.

There will be a Windows GUI, MAC GUI, and linux builds.  Actually, since hese are already up for MaxCoin, it only takes a little tweaking to mine StacyCoin.

StacyCoin will be "TITS ABOVE" MaxCoin............. in many ways.

feel free to give details of the hashing algorithm ahead of time... as i said.. if there is a buyer I will support the coin regardless of who's face is on it..

Hi Alphi, the hash will be keccak just like Maxcoin, its sha3 so its rather efficient, also includes Kimoto Gravity Well (which I've always been keen on). All the numbers the same as Maxcoin although some changes to qt stuff for the gui users.

Stacy nailed it when she described us as  "making Stacycoin out of Maxcoin's ribs" (On their radio show: Truth about Markets)

• Algo: Keccak (SHA-3)   (there's actually alot more to this than meets the eye)
• How many coins: 250,000,000
• Block time: 30 seconds
• Block reward: 96 MaxCoin per block, halving every ~12 months
• Difficulty: Retargeting using Kimoto Gravity Well algorithm

cheers mate.. ill give it a shot when its released

another troll  ;D

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=476408.new#new

 :o :o

Ohh wow thanks for the heads up lol :-)   :o :o

It looks like this troll has some malicious intent as well.

How about an update from the Devs on this Coin?

Have you lost interest or is it taking longer to code everything?

NOT STEADY !!!!!!!!!!

That, and I love a good experiment. Provided this is a genuine effort to be "different" from the other NXT clones, then consider me interested. If it isn't, then I'm not.

what are you talking about ? forget NXT this is in another league.

the devs behind this are shit hot so I'm sure they'll pull through with something clever! :)

Well, if consider that Stacy and Max have some competition, who has more followers in twitter etc, making MaxCoin a Bitcoin fork, and StacyCoin a NXT fork is a great idea, because NXT is the only real "rival" to bitcoin at the moment...

Any update ?

Stillborn... DED!

stacy

wtf this time...

Woops sorry just noticed the requests for updates, not dead :-)  we're just very busy x

here we go, I suppose we can buy these at launch @.005btc too?

when is the launch?

R u fuckin kidding 'forget NXT' for stacycoin!!!??? never heard anything so rediculous in my life!!!!!

good luck for you ;D

good to see the dev taking is time with the coin!

Last thing we need is another Keiser coin.  >:(

No one should support this coin. Totally useless and childish release. Why would this coin be any better than Maxcoin? You missed the Maxcoin train? That's not true. You still can get into Max train if you want. It's very cheap on exchanges and mining difficulty is lower than ever since the launch. Maxcoin already has all the tech and security features for successful coin. All it need is Max Keiser's promised support and connections to make it de facto trade coin over the bitcoin.

To see a first class introduction of a SHA3 coin, just check out CryptoMeth.  It rolls out TOmorrow, Saturday, at 11AM New York time, 9PM London time.

This is exactly what StacyCoin is supposed to be; SHA3, KMG, pools set up before launch, exchange in place.

http://cryptometh.com/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=500175.0

A perfect launch of CryptoMeth Coin.... A SHA3, KMG coin, exactly like MaxCoin and what Stacy Coin may be.  Check it out, devs....... you might even be able to use the source code for StacyCoin... hint, hint

lol

This Coin idea is obviously deader than a Dinosauer.

Nothing to see here, move along.............

is this coin dead?

Never born.  I guess that makes it a miscarriage.

Let's be honest here, wouldn't you just say that about any woman?

Hey dude, not dead just extremely busy I'm afraid.. There are three of us working on STCY still, we'll have a site up etc soon

Why? Nobody is interested in Mrs. Keiser coin.

Hey Dude...

CryptoMeth Coin is exactly what you are proposing.  Just copy the data, find a fork off Maxcoin, and go for it.