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Title: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: Envrin on February 08, 2014, 02:58:47 AM It's been a while, and can't see anything on the Bitcoin Foundation's blog about it. Any idea when it's getting released? And is it 100% confirmed we'll be able to store up to 80 bytes of data in a transaction? That would be a god-send for us. Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: rme on February 08, 2014, 06:36:14 PM https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/releases/tag/v0.9.0rc1
Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: Shahrukh on February 08, 2014, 08:38:40 PM https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin
it is version 0.9 Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: Carlton Banks on February 08, 2014, 09:09:51 PM Looks like headers-only block downloading has missed this release, as well as maaku's blockchain pruning (unless I'm reading the release notes wrong). Also missing the gmaxwell IP privacy change? And BIP32 HD wallets? Or this kilobyte rounding change (https://gist.github.com/gavinandresen/7670433#09-relaying) to the tx fee logic?
Still a sterling feature/fix list, it would be interesting to see the beginnings of people using Payments Protocol (I'm guessing we can expect this first from Bitpay and Coinbase, but anything's possible). People have been crying out for CoinControl for so long, glad this is now part of the main (core?) client. Re: Reject dust amounts during validation This presumably makes dust inputs unpsendable (indeed, not recognised as part of the wallet balance). But they remain in the blockchain. so this is preventing their use until some future point when dust threshold is lowered? Is dust still considered <= 0.0000543 ? Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: Peter Todd on February 09, 2014, 12:45:23 PM Looks like headers-only block downloading has missed this release, as well as maaku's blockchain pruning (unless I'm reading the release notes wrong). Also missing the gmaxwell IP privacy change? And BIP32 HD wallets? Or this kilobyte rounding change (https://gist.github.com/gavinandresen/7670433#09-relaying) to the tx fee logic? maaku isn't implementing pruning; he's implementing UTXO commitments, a very different technology that isn't directly related to pruning. (whether or not UTXO commitments are a good thing is debatable; my MMR TXO commitments are another option that many argue has better scalability) I've actually been hired by Litecoin to get pruning implemented, among other things, but doing so is dependent on headers-only block downloading. Re: Reject dust amounts during validation This presumably makes dust inputs unpsendable (indeed, not recognised as part of the wallet balance). But they remain in the blockchain. so this is preventing their use until some future point when dust threshold is lowered? Is dust still considered <= 0.0000543 ? Dust inputs are always spendable and are recognized as part of a wallet balance. What isn't allowed is creating new ones, although much of the mining hashing power hasn't decided to adopt that change and still allows the creation of dust. Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: Carlton Banks on February 09, 2014, 05:30:05 PM Looks like headers-only block downloading has missed this release, as well as maaku's blockchain pruning (unless I'm reading the release notes wrong). Also missing the gmaxwell IP privacy change? And BIP32 HD wallets? Or this kilobyte rounding change (https://gist.github.com/gavinandresen/7670433#09-relaying) to the tx fee logic? maaku isn't implementing pruning; he's implementing UTXO commitments, a very different technology that isn't directly related to pruning. (whether or not UTXO commitments are a good thing is debatable; my MMR TXO commitments are another option that many argue has better scalability) I've actually been hired by Litecoin to get pruning implemented, among other things, but doing so is dependent on headers-only block downloading. Don't know where I got that idea then... could bitcoin benefit from your work on litecoin, once litecoin's benefited from (sipa's?) work on the headers-only/parallel block downloading? Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: Peter Todd on February 09, 2014, 06:14:48 PM Don't know where I got that idea then... could bitcoin benefit from your work on litecoin, once litecoin's benefited from (sipa's?) work on the headers-only/parallel block downloading? Absolutely; the litecoin and bitcoin code-bases are essentially identical. Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: Carlton Banks on February 10, 2014, 01:29:58 AM Edit: figured out the protoc part ./configure is happy apart from missing protoc, as well as a few "no" answers. It creates the makefile though. Not really sure what the issue(s) is/are. I have all the dependencies now, it's maybe just gcc configuration? Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: maaku on February 10, 2014, 02:29:30 AM protoc is part of Google's protocol buffers. You need it for the payment protocol which is part of 0.9.
I've also been hired to do some work on pruning, but this is wholly dependent on sipa's headers-first branch getting finished & tested. Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: Carlton Banks on February 10, 2014, 02:48:51 AM protoc is part of Google's protocol buffers. You need it for the payment protocol which is part of 0.9. I've also been hired to do some work on pruning, but this is wholly dependent on sipa's headers-first branch getting finished & tested. Yes, I managed to find that out (protoc is protocol buffers compiler). Still having build problems, I wrongly assumed ./configure doesn't produce a makefile if it's environment tests aren't satisfied. Was kind of looking forward to testing out the headers-first production code in this release, but these big changes obviously shouldn't be rushed. Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: Carlton Banks on February 10, 2014, 09:37:51 PM Anyone got any compilation advice? As I said, makefile is created by ./configure, all warnings eliminated. Various "no"s in the configure script output, but at least some of these sound like a good thing (I know I'm not wanting to cross-compile, and I know I'm not wanting to compile objective C).
Any help at all would be cool. Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: Carlton Banks on February 11, 2014, 01:34:17 AM This is the complete configure script output:
Code: checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu using Mint/Ubuntu 13.04 equivalent Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: seanwilliam1988 on February 12, 2014, 09:53:42 AM I haven’t heard anything about this at Bitcoin Daily. But I think the v0.9 would be a good thing for all bitcoin users.
Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: Envrin on February 12, 2014, 03:07:03 PM https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin it is version 0.9 https://bitcoin.org/en/download Maybe they forgot to update the site, but looks like 0.8.6 is still the officially released version. Instead of playing around with a beta version, I think I'll just hang tight, and wait for the core devel team to approve 0.9.0 for public release. :) Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: Shahrukh on February 12, 2014, 07:38:10 PM https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin it is version 0.9 https://bitcoin.org/en/download Maybe they forgot to update the site, but looks like 0.8.6 is still the officially released version. Instead of playing around with a beta version, I think I'll just hang tight, and wait for the core devel team to approve 0.9.0 for public release. :) I am using 0.9.0 on my Ubuntu PC no issues so far Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: rme on February 12, 2014, 08:46:37 PM https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin it is version 0.9 https://bitcoin.org/en/download Maybe they forgot to update the site, but looks like 0.8.6 is still the officially released version. Instead of playing around with a beta version, I think I'll just hang tight, and wait for the core devel team to approve 0.9.0 for public release. :) I am using 0.9.0 on my Ubuntu PC no issues so far There are compiled binaries? Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: Carlton Banks on February 12, 2014, 08:51:36 PM I am using 0.9.0 on my Ubuntu PC no issues so far Can I ask you to look at my issue compiling the 0.9 source? The makefile is generated, so it can't be missing library dependencies. I'm thinking maybe disk permissions or compiler config, but not certain. Makefile output in this thread, a few posts up Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: cr1776 on February 12, 2014, 09:21:20 PM I am using 0.9.0 on my Ubuntu PC no issues so far Can I ask you to look at my issue compiling the 0.9 source? The makefile is generated, so it can't be missing library dependencies. I'm thinking maybe disk permissions or compiler config, but not certain. Makefile output in this thread, a few posts up I've been running it on Ubuntu too - 13.10 though vs 13.04 - without a problem (since last weekend-ish, forget exactly when I updated it). I didn't see anything obvious from what you posted that would cause an issue. Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: Carlton Banks on February 12, 2014, 09:46:23 PM I am using 0.9.0 on my Ubuntu PC no issues so far Can I ask you to look at my issue compiling the 0.9 source? The makefile is generated, so it can't be missing library dependencies. I'm thinking maybe disk permissions or compiler config, but not certain. Makefile output in this thread, a few posts up I've been running it on Ubuntu too - 13.10 though vs 13.04 - without a problem (since last weekend-ish, forget exactly when I updated it). I didn't see anything obvious from what you posted that would cause an issue. Strange, that's my interpretation, although I'm not a programmer, I just know how to research and read instructions! Just tried chmod 777 -R <source code directory> Didn't work either. Tried 'sudo make' out of desperation, wasn't expecting it to work anyway (although I've long since realised that trying something illogical doesn't mean that it wasn't the problem all along :D) Compiler options for gcc or g++ is the only other thing left over, if that's not it I cannot imagine the problem. I've not had any problems on this environment before, but that was completely different (python building Armory) Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: cr1776 on February 13, 2014, 12:26:12 AM Perhaps I missed it, but are there any messages showing up indicating an error when you go to make it?
Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: Shahrukh on February 13, 2014, 12:28:05 AM Perhaps I missed it, but are there any messages showing up indicating an error when you go to make it? He got stuck on make, however it is not throwing any error but theres not output of make commands Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: cr1776 on February 13, 2014, 12:35:27 AM Perhaps I missed it, but are there any messages showing up indicating an error when you go to make it? He got stuck on make, however it is not throwing any error but theres not output of make commands Maybe try verbose mode V=1 Or Debug: make -d I didn't try those just now though so ymmv. :-) But it might give some starting points Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: Carlton Banks on February 13, 2014, 12:42:59 AM Perhaps I missed it, but are there any messages showing up indicating an error when you go to make it? No, I scrapped the old build directory, then built again. I scrutinised the build output all the way from the start, no errors or warnings. All the commands appear to complete without complaint. And the target files do not build. No bitcoind or bitcoin-qt is produced after the compile. It's gotta be one of the compiler flags that the configure script names, I can't think what else. I will try with the verbose output option, maybe there will be more useful detail Edit - possibly an error: "Removed plural forms as the target language has less forms. If this sounds wrong, possibly the target language is not set or recognized." Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: cr1776 on February 13, 2014, 12:51:14 AM I presume you checked in the
~/bitcoin/src directory to see if the new bitcoind was built in there? (Just trying to cover all the bases). :-) (you might have to copy it to /usr/bin/ afterward if you want it globally accessible, but for testing purposes, probably not). Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: Carlton Banks on February 13, 2014, 12:53:38 AM I presume you checked in the ~/bitcoin/src directory to see if the new bitcoind was built in there? (Just trying to cover all the bases). :-) (you might have to copy it to /usr/bin/ afterward if you want it globally accessible, but for testing purposes, probably not). Yep, tried looking in there. Using verbose now, looks like it picks up the language to compile no troubles, so that's not it. Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: Carlton Banks on February 13, 2014, 01:19:18 AM No errors or warnings.
The only conceivable clue is the final lines of the make output: make[1]: Entering directory `/home/user/Documents/bitcoin-0.9.0rc1' make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/user/Documents/bitcoin-0.9.0rc1' There's an implication something got skipped. Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: cr1776 on February 13, 2014, 01:21:55 AM So, after the "executing depfiles commands" you get nothing?
You should see something like this after "config.status: executing depfiles commands" (I just went to rebuild it to see what I could tell): Quote Making all in src make[1]: Entering directory `/home/user/bitcoin/src' (CDPATH="${ZSH_VERSION+.}:" && cd .. && /bin/bash /home/user/bitcoin/src/build-aux/missing autoheader) rm -f stamp-h1 touch bitcoin-config.h.in cd .. && /bin/bash ./config.status src/bitcoin-config.h ... This is the complete configure script output: Code: checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu using Mint/Ubuntu 13.04 equivalent Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: Carlton Banks on February 13, 2014, 01:37:54 AM So, after the "executing depfiles commands" you get nothing? Oh no, it convincingly executes everything in the build script. With hundreds of output lines, no errors. The three lines I posted two posts up are the very last three from those hundreds lines of error free make output. Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: maaku on February 13, 2014, 04:42:49 AM Carlton Banks, nothing you've posted so far indicates an error. Those three lines are in fact telling you that it was successfully built. Try "make clean && make all" and pastebin the *entire* result.
Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: WayneManBat on February 13, 2014, 06:17:14 AM Carlton Banks, nothing you've posted so far indicates an error. Those three lines are in fact telling you that it was successfully built. Try "make clean && make all" and pastebin the *entire* result. this is all i can come up withTitle: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: cr1776 on February 13, 2014, 12:59:59 PM Carlton Banks, nothing you've posted so far indicates an error. Those three lines are in fact telling you that it was successfully built. Try "make clean && make all" and pastebin the *entire* result. That would be my next suggestion or make -f makefile.unix clean; make -f makefile.unix Also, does find / -name bitcoind show it being built anywhere odd? (I presume you did a too (assuming you just want bitcoind): ./configure --without-qt ) Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: Carlton Banks on February 13, 2014, 03:36:55 PM Carlton Banks, nothing you've posted so far indicates an error. Those three lines are in fact telling you that it was successfully built. Try "make clean && make all" and pastebin the *entire* result. That would be my next suggestion or make -f makefile.unix clean; make -f makefile.unix Also, does find / -name bitcoind show it being built anywhere odd? Okay, in the /src directory is a 'Shared Library' called bitcoind and bitcoincli, so it actually is producing the targets. Sort of (also a bitcoin-qt 'Shared Library' in src/qt) How can I make these ordinary executables, and not 'Shared Libraries'? bitcoin-qt only launches from the command line Paste of make output: http://pastebin.com/mmtxsVK7 Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: cr1776 on February 13, 2014, 03:54:47 PM Edited - based on your edit too (cut some). ;-)
For example if I look at it from the CLI (this is built with the latest changes since rc1 so will be slightly different than your's), I see lots of stuff, including: -rwxrwxr-x 1 user group 69750836 Feb 13 10:22 bitcoind -rwxrwxr-x 1 user group 14246918 Feb 13 10:22 bitcoin-cli If you are at the CLI, if you type this while in the src directory, it launches. So I'm thinking this is just a GUI issue. What do the properties show for the files? Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: Carlton Banks on February 13, 2014, 06:10:29 PM Edited - based on your edit too (cut some). ;-) For example if I look at it from the CLI (this is built with the latest changes since rc1 so will be slightly different than your's), I see lots of stuff, including: -rwxrwxr-x 1 user group 69750836 Feb 13 10:22 bitcoind -rwxrwxr-x 1 user group 14246918 Feb 13 10:22 bitcoin-cli If you are at the CLI, if you type this while in the src directory, it launches. So I'm thinking this is just a GUI issue. What do the properties show for the files? GUI properties indicate that all 3 are executable, and the type is specified 'shared library (application/x-sharedlib)' for all 3. They are executable, but bitcoin-qt only works by launching it from the command prompt. Error if you try from the GUI: "Could not display "/home/username/Documents/bitcoin-0.9.0rc1/src/qt/bitcoin-qt - There is no application installed for shared library files. Do you want to search for an application to open this file?". Sounds like it's trying to read the contents of the file, even though it's specified as executable. Sorry, I've still got a little bit of a MS windows hangover, linux is still new to me really. The idea that a GUI bug or suchlike would cause this confusion didn't occur to me. I'm running it with Mate desktop on Mint 15, if that's useful. Perhaps Mate is known for being incapable of launching certain types of executables? Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: cr1776 on February 13, 2014, 07:03:10 PM Edited - based on your edit too (cut some). ;-) For example if I look at it from the CLI (this is built with the latest changes since rc1 so will be slightly different than your's), I see lots of stuff, including: -rwxrwxr-x 1 user group 69750836 Feb 13 10:22 bitcoind -rwxrwxr-x 1 user group 14246918 Feb 13 10:22 bitcoin-cli If you are at the CLI, if you type this while in the src directory, it launches. So I'm thinking this is just a GUI issue. What do the properties show for the files? GUI properties indicate that all 3 are executable, and the type is specified 'shared library (application/x-sharedlib)' for all 3. They are executable, but bitcoin-qt only works by launching it from the command prompt. Error if you try from the GUI: "Could not display "/home/username/Documents/bitcoin-0.9.0rc1/src/qt/bitcoin-qt - There is no application installed for shared library files. Do you want to search for an application to open this file?". Sounds like it's trying to read the contents of the file, even though it's specified as executable. Sorry, I've still got a little bit of a MS windows hangover, linux is still new to me really. The idea that a GUI bug or suchlike would cause this confusion didn't occur to me. I'm running it with Mate desktop on Mint 15, if that's useful. Perhaps Mate is known for being incapable of launching certain types of executables? If you can run it from the CLI, it is definitely compiled and so would seem to be a GUI issue or typing (mime?) issue. The bitcoind etc files in src, are definitely just "bitcoind" not "bitcoind.so" right? :-) (.so is usually shared object library). You might try a make install at the end if you haven't done that. I am not sure under Mate, but perhaps it will fix the issue. Perhaps it is only looking for executable applications in certain directories (e.g. /usr/bin/ or /usr/local/bin) The good thing is that you got it installed without a problem, just not in Mate yet. :-) Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: madzooka on February 22, 2014, 11:04:46 AM So what's new in this version? I mean what's the main difference? What is improved?
Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: Carlton Banks on February 22, 2014, 04:44:08 PM So what's new in this version? I mean what's the main difference? What is improved? The list for the current release candidate is here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/release-notes.md Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: gmaxwell on February 22, 2014, 06:23:22 PM And is it 100% confirmed we'll be able to store up to 80 bytes of data in a transaction? That would be a god-send for us. No it's not guaranteed— recently we've been talking some about removing this, reducing this, and will likely make it switchable. So far the initial commentary we've seen mostly appears to be people looking to use it abusively and in ways which will be detrimental to the Bitcoin currency. Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: Peter Todd on February 22, 2014, 10:27:56 PM It's been a while, and can't see anything on the Bitcoin Foundation's blog about it. Any idea when it's getting released? And is it 100% confirmed we'll be able to store up to 80 bytes of data in a transaction? That would be a god-send for us. You already can store data in transactions; OP_RETURN just makes it easier to do that in ways that harm the Bitcoin network less. For instance see Mastercoin's "class B" encoding: https://github.com/mastercoin-MSC/spec#class-b-transactions-also-known-as-the-multisig-method My advice for new projects is to support multiple encoding methods, the same was Mastercoin did, so you aren't dependent on the Bitcoin devs. Incidentally there's no practical way to stop all those methods - even P2SH^2, itself a very invasive change to the ecosystem which is unlikely to happen, can't stop encoding data in P2SH scriptSigs without merkleized abstract syntax tree support and risky changes to the scripting language... and that in turn has the big risk that you make upgrades in the future, perhaps because a crypto algorithm has been weakened, much more difficult to implement. Of course, that's why I'm spending my time working on actually improving fundamental scalability rather than wasting time trying to tell people what to do with a trust-free decentralized system... Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: softtissue on February 23, 2014, 05:30:06 AM when does Bitcoin v0.9 release?
Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: RedDiamond on February 23, 2014, 07:11:43 AM when does Bitcoin v0.9 release? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=478358.msg5282638#msg5282638 Title: Re: Any news on Bitcoin v0.9 release? Post by: softtissue on February 28, 2014, 06:52:17 AM when does Bitcoin v0.9 release? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=478358.msg5282638#msg5282638 |