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Economy => Economics => Topic started by: FXTradingPro on June 27, 2018, 01:07:43 PM



Title: Will Institutional Investors Save Cryptocurrencies?
Post by: FXTradingPro on June 27, 2018, 01:07:43 PM
This is an interesting read on how BTC Bitcoin and cryptos might benefit from Institutional Investors.  :)

https://forexmarketslive.com/will-institutional-investors-save-cryptocurrencies/


Title: Re: Will Institutional Investors Save Cryptocurrencies?
Post by: DooMAD on June 27, 2018, 01:27:56 PM
Institutional investors will firstly have to figure out where the extent of their involvement lies.  Most of them aren't holding actual bitcoins.  They're opening contracts based on what the future price might be and placing their fiat bets accordingly.  They aren't bringing anything to the table.  They don't get to call it liquidity if they aren't dealing in actual bitcoins.  They're not in the same market. 


Title: Re: Will Institutional Investors Save Cryptocurrencies?
Post by: jseverson on June 27, 2018, 03:56:14 PM
Cyrptocurrencies don't really need saving though. It's true that it has a lot of problems now, but that should be expected out of any emerging technology. People are still figuring them out. Solving those problems is only a matter of time in my opinion.

That being said, institutional money can probably make the process quicker. They'll be injecting growth, which will increase the size of the community along with their resources for development. I do have a few concerns about them, but I feel like they'll still have a positive impact in the long run.


Title: Re: Will Institutional Investors Save Cryptocurrencies?
Post by: CHENIEN on June 27, 2018, 04:07:12 PM
The system and the nature of cryptocurrency business today are having a forms of disadvantages and advantages, and those big whales or big investors also needs a total secure that being safe regularly without hackers and scammers involves, but sad to say that this certain business are involves of hackers attack every now and then. And the manipulation systems are always here and it is something a reality on crypto business that all of us will adapt on that system.


Title: Re: Will Institutional Investors Save Cryptocurrencies?
Post by: HatDen on June 28, 2018, 11:19:02 PM
Yeah of course only investors and common people can save crypto because of impediment to volatility.


Title: Re: Will Institutional Investors Save Cryptocurrencies?
Post by: Kemarit on June 29, 2018, 02:44:16 AM
Hard to say. I still vividly remembers when CBoE and CME enter the picture with this bitcoin future contracts offering. Everyone was shouting that bitcoin will go to the moon etc etc. Actually it did, we almost reached $20000. But what everyone don't understands is that they are not bringing bitcoins but fiat placing their bet. So for me, they have something to do with the free fall that we have been experiencing since the start of this year. So I don't think that they are the one who's going to save this market from the dramatic fall we have been witnessing. IMHO.


Title: Re: Will Institutional Investors Save Cryptocurrencies?
Post by: Dudeperfect on June 29, 2018, 03:21:35 AM
To be honest, institutional investors and big whales would give first priority to earn maximum gain from the market. As we all know that there is a lack of awareness among the investors which results in the panic environment frequently, big whale and institutional investors take the benefit of this uncertainty and earn high profits. We can expect some boost from them in a short term but it is not a wise idea to look at it as a long-term solution.


Title: Re: Will Institutional Investors Save Cryptocurrencies?
Post by: pinkflower on June 29, 2018, 04:04:01 AM
Institutional investors will firstly have to figure out where the extent of their involvement lies.  Most of them aren't holding actual bitcoins.  They're opening contracts based on what the future price might be and placing their fiat bets accordingly.  They aren't bringing anything to the table.  They don't get to call it liquidity if they aren't dealing in actual bitcoins.  They're not in the same market. 

I opened this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2500514.0) last December questioning which is more important for a fiat investor, the futures market or the real BTC market?

Your post answers it well, and the new questions should now be, which is the real price of BTC, the futures market or the real BTC market? Which one follows, and which one leads?




Title: Re: Will Institutional Investors Save Cryptocurrencies?
Post by: Nerman on June 29, 2018, 04:53:44 AM
This is an interesting read on how BTC Bitcoin and cryptos might benefit from Institutional Investors.  :)

https://forexmarketslive.com/will-institutional-investors-save-cryptocurrencies/


I think there will surely be a benefit when institutional investors play in the crypto market. Not only that the price will go up but big institutions giving an option to invest in crypto currency through the public  will make crypto currency legitimize. I know it is legit but not everyone think that it is. Many people are still nervous investing in crypto currency but with their help they will become curious and most likely invest as well.


Title: Re: Will Institutional Investors Save Cryptocurrencies?
Post by: squog on June 29, 2018, 05:25:31 AM
Much like banks, institutional investors carry a huge amount of resources and could even muster manpower on top of it all. These could actually help crypto currencies across the board. But it will depend on how much they will put in or even how they treat their holding. If they hold then all too good. But if they don't, then that sucks for us.


Title: Re: Will Institutional Investors Save Cryptocurrencies?
Post by: sunsilk on June 29, 2018, 07:57:41 AM
They aren't bringing anything to the table.  They don't get to call it liquidity if they aren't dealing in actual bitcoins.  They're not in the same market. 
Right. Others are misunderstanding this thing if an institution starts to declare that they've got interest to bitcoin but the real deal is it's about the futures.

Both has it's own market but they are not really into the real bitcoin market and this futures market is getting the flow instead of the money that should go to the bitcoin crypto market.

These institutional investors will only be making the market better if they will actually buy bitcoin.


Title: Re: Will Institutional Investors Save Cryptocurrencies?
Post by: RockBar0 on August 04, 2018, 10:12:37 PM
To be honest, institutional investors and big whales would give first priority to earn maximum gain from the market. As we all know that there is a lack of awareness among the investors which results in the panic environment frequently, big whale and institutional investors take the benefit of this uncertainty and earn high profits. We can expect some boost from them in a short term but it is not a wise idea to look at it as a long-term solution.
Most big investors have clear strategies and plans. In order to take over the whole market so they more and more assets. The profits yield huge profits. They also use them to save money in this market, but the savings are too big for ordinary people.


Title: Re: Will Institutional Investors Save Cryptocurrencies?
Post by: magneto on August 05, 2018, 10:58:24 AM
I don't think that bitcoin or other cryptos need institutional investors at all to thrive. In fact, their decentralised structure mean that even without these major institutions support, it would be able to fulfill its purpose and survive as a network for payment processing.

I think that institutional investors will play a major role of pushing prices up in the long run, however, their services are most likely going to cater for the big players within the market or other institutions who like a piece of crypto, instead of the average user of bitcoin. Institutional investors are definitely going to be focusing on speculation, which is not always necessarily a good thing.

I sort of see this as a neutral thing. It can't be stopped, but it's not something that we need either, that's in essence what institutional investors (or rather speculators) are going to be. They're not gonna save anything, or drastically improve anything. They're in it to make profits for themselves.


Title: Re: Will Institutional Investors Save Cryptocurrencies?
Post by: omfg.xekcep on August 05, 2018, 01:02:35 PM
I am sure that market is not complete without institutional investors. They trade along side with amateurs trades making nice liquidity so I consider any type of professional trade is important for market. Let us look at ETH, currently its price is bout 400$. I may suppose that amateurs traders want ETH to grow but actually they are not able move the price quite sufficiently but institutional investors can. Namely professional traders define a state of market by moving it up and down. We (amateur traders) should follow them to earn together with them.


Title: Re: Will Institutional Investors Save Cryptocurrencies?
Post by: carlisle1 on August 05, 2018, 01:31:54 PM
Hard to say. I still vividly remembers when CBoE and CME enter the picture with this bitcoin future contracts offering. Everyone was shouting that bitcoin will go to the moon etc etc. Actually it did, we almost reached $20000. But what everyone don't understands is that they are not bringing bitcoins but fiat placing their bet. So for me, they have something to do with the free fall that we have been experiencing since the start of this year. So I don't think that they are the one who's going to save this market from the dramatic fall we have been witnessing. IMHO.

Well your point reflects it all,all investors dont care about anything but their profit so even if they can help this market still they will only take what they deserve so for me i agreed on this post that they are not what we are waiting to save the drowning crypto economy


Title: Re: Will Institutional Investors Save Cryptocurrencies?
Post by: BTCballa on August 05, 2018, 08:32:44 PM
This is an interesting read on how BTC Bitcoin and cryptos might benefit from Institutional Investors.  :)

https://forexmarketslive.com/will-institutional-investors-save-cryptocurrencies/
We don't know for sure what will be happening when this case will take place but it seems like every second cryptocurrency investor is waiting for this to happen, so probably this would be whether or the biggest encouragement or the biggest fail of 2019 year.


Title: Re: Will Institutional Investors Save Cryptocurrencies?
Post by: timerland on August 05, 2018, 09:55:52 PM
And why exactly do cryptos need saving?

I don't see any major issues of crypto that can be resolved through institutional investors coming in and investing in bitcoin businesses, bitcoin derivatives, ICOs, or very rarely, bitcoin itself.

Their investment is more likely than not going to be trying to bring a monetary reward to themselves, which is often done through trading derivatives or whatnot. Bitcoin is able to succeed without any institutional investors, as demonstrated in the past decade. Inflating the trading volume and potentially the liquidity of the market could be positive, but barely constitutes as "saving" cryptos.


Title: Re: Will Institutional Investors Save Cryptocurrencies?
Post by: hibiscus on August 06, 2018, 12:10:10 AM
The crypto currency has started in the year 2009 though it is in the infant stage now .It has to grow further a lot according to the
wold population.The major set back to the global community is stopping bitcoins the requirement of the technical awareness to the bitcoin usage..Bitcoin is a new form of economy with the strong net work systems linked with the modern technology. If the institutional investors are started to invest in bitcoin means its demand will increase in the market.


Title: Re: Will Institutional Investors Save Cryptocurrencies?
Post by: SunJAB on August 07, 2018, 07:59:30 AM
Much like banks, institutional investors carry a huge amount of resources and could even muster manpower on top of it all. These could actually help crypto currencies across the board. But it will depend on how much they will put in or even how they treat their holding. If they hold then all too good. But if they don't, then that sucks for us.
It is difficult to explain the intention of the bank for profit, no one will deny. Being financially involved is wonderful. If the electronic money is deposited as currency into the bank, then the interest rate? This can not be explained. Because it is completely new and needs time to adjust, adapt to the environment. The savings are the same.