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it seem that those dumping prices are affected due to short orders of brokers which are using bitcoin and a financial instrument to make money, instead of its ideology of holding/ capital investment.

due to those bitcoin futures, there arent any " limited" bitcoins nomore, and those brokers or citiziens ( whom can contact brokers to buy them those futures ) , as they can buy them at its present value without using any wallet or register to annoying exchange platforms with tons of aml/kyc laws.

i think those 2 things are destorying the bitcoin as banks are also possible to go shorts via the bitcoin futures without having a problem with the regulations as its a stock market.

I think it could affect the price, or the drop in the bitcoin price, and that we could use to make a long-term purchase, and we could benefit from falling prices.

The recent exponential fall in price of bitcoin is as a result of the continuous dump due to fear of losing big, I think many people dump so they can buy back when price stabilizes

There will be an opportunities with current circumstance, as long as there is belief that bitcoin is a good technology for the future then this dump is a good point to buy with cheap price.

They can create futures contracts for everything. Everything.

Don't worry though their casino is about to fall apart. Their time is coming to an end.

Hint: It will start with Douchebank.

The huge dump on bitcoin is caused by people panicking to sell their bitcoins due to many negative news and big holders selling their coins. All of this have contributed to the fall of bitcoin. But now, we noticed that there are no huge volume on the market and possibly there is already the so called bearish limit and with that we are seeing that bitcoin is slowly recovering but the problem is that there is no support and this could lead to another huge crash in value.

These futures don't affect bitcoin's price directly. It's like placing their bets where will bitcoin go on the coming months. So it's the panic selling that mostly caused bitcoin's crash.

I am not a supporter of futures. It seems to me that all the problems with bitcoins appeared after the futures contracts appeared. Margin trading has contributed to volatility but due to the fact that the speculators were relatively small and short money prices quickly recovered. Futures traders are big capital and they are dumping prices. The result we saw everything.

I think it will affect the price and btc market at this time

nothing is destroying bitcoin. Only because the prices were not growing for some time, it doesn't mean bitcoin is being destroyed. You're complaining about the speculators yet you do the same...

It is true that such dumps might affect Bitcoin in a short term but I don't think that it will affect the growth of Bitcoin in the long term. As of now, this technology is still in the basic phase of development and hence no one is sure what is going to happen down the road, there is a lack of awareness to deal with multiple critical situations and hence big whales and institutional investors are manipulating the price in a way that is beneficial to them in order to earn profit from it.

As per previous year history major dump occurs in Q3 and at the moment the major dumping is started and i think it will remain till September so buy it or hold it till last month of the year for better return.

Bitcoin has 3 important characteristic and they are it is sustainable, versatile and volatile crypto currency and this volatile nature is responsible for this much flactuation in the valuation of bitcoin and moreover this is very common in every investment that the valuation flactuates but this time the valuation has been deflated to very low extent and I think this is all because many governments has denied to legalise bitcoin in their nation and this has left a very negative impact on people and now they don’t want to invest into bitcoin and this leads to short of order.

the short orders and bitcoin futures may have affected the resulting price of bitcoin that we are seeing today and they may have been the reason for some of the price drops that we had but they certainly are not the only reason, not even the main reason for the drops.
as it was said many times before, this is not the first drop that bitcoin had in its 9 year history but this was the first time we had futures.

With volatile,versatile,ànd it being sustainable, compare to to dump and the short time holders is a personal decision, any Crypto fanatic, should and would want to hold Bitcoin,its just the newbies,or chicken hearted that sells off,if there is dipping..

I will not try to consider the latest dump as a part from the major dump, but as far as i know after watching the market in this year and it seems like the bitcoin futures contract is making the bitcoin market being unhealthy. You can try to read the latest article that discussed about that.

sales on a large scale make bitcoin prices fall, it happens because of the panic of each bitcoin holders.
they read negative news in the media, then they are affected and sell their assets in order to secure it from loss.

People are giving these bitcoin futures too much credit for bitcoin's normal fluctuations. If you look at the volume of these futures, it's only a few millions, CME and CBOE combined. Compare that to the daily volume, which is currently 3.5 billion, those futures won't have much of an effect.

Now we realize that there is no big volume in the market and there may have been a so-called drop limit and we find that bitcoin is slowly recovering but the problem is there is no support and this can leading to great collapse in value. Margin trading has contributed to volatility but due to the fact that speculators are relatively small and short-term money prices recover quickly.

what are you even talking about? if there is no support then what the hell was $6k and why did price jump back above it each time it was tested with a gigantic dump? we have reached the bottom with the strong support at that price and the market has started its recovery. the shorts and all the rest are not the only thing in the market, there are other opposing forces, sometimes the balance is disturbed so the price moves in one direction until it reaches the balance again (meaning at $6k) then again it is disturbed and moves in the other direction.

saying price falls because people are shorting and never recovers is like ignoring the other half of the market as if they don't even exist!!!

Yes you are right dump problem is because of short orders peoples are not holding long term their investment like they hold with banks and Fix deposits they are selling bitcoins due to fear of losing. now short pump and dump can give profit but its not good for bitcoin future,peoples need to hold like as a capital investment in bitcoin for long term.