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Title: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: dogtana on June 29, 2018, 01:32:15 PM
Dear whales, if you or your bots let bitcoin drop more, people will give up and you will have noone to pull money from. Smart money won't play because smart money can't play only against each other. At the end of the day, big investment base will be needed but people are getting driven away. Just because members here are keeping positive, general public ridicules bitcoin and altcoins. This is unhealthy and it is not good for anyone.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: scooby_doo23955 on June 30, 2018, 08:52:54 PM
If whales are really responsible for this price fall then I must say that it is high time that they should stop doing such manipulation. The market is going down beyond expectation and for this many are leaving the market. If this continues then the whales too will get nothing from the market in future and the purpose of their manipulation will fail.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: baricuri on June 30, 2018, 09:19:29 PM
The market is constantly falling, the abandonment of the market of many investors led to the market decline and sharp decline of the altcoin. I think everyone should be comfortable and do not worry, hold the altcoin until the end of the year, the price will rise again.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: blockman on June 30, 2018, 09:23:47 PM
No whale will listen to your consent about the market.

The market is constantly falling
Don't spread FUD, the market isn't falling so far if bitcoin goes to lower than $1000 then we can start it calling falling or even lower than that.

But have you seen what's with it today? it has moved up anyway, the market itself went up today.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Harriti on June 30, 2018, 09:27:39 PM
I think the whales read this thread already. LOL. Whole crypto market is being painted in green right at the beginning of today ;D. Although price of BTC and ETH don't increase so much but I can see that it's a good signal that  crypto world is retrieving and seem like July everything will be better and nobody has to worry about price of BTC and all other cryptocurrencies anymore ;D


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Sparklins4u on June 30, 2018, 10:39:09 PM
Whales at it again, whenever the market is falling like this I worry less, instead I just find a means to buy the dip because I know the green days are very close by.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: crenfrosck on June 30, 2018, 11:02:20 PM
I don't like what are whales doing either, but they won't do anything that will cost them their money. They want to buy cheap and when they will control a bigger part of coins, they will let it pump and secure their profit. Easy tactic for someone who has a lot of extra money to put in here  :D. I am not worried right now, I think we will see new ATHs in the future with bringing masses to the world of crypto. It is like the Internet in the 90s or early 00s: no one would expect that we would not be able to live without it in less than 20 years- but here we are. Is it a bubble? Sure. It will explode, but later we will witness an adoption among people all over the world. I believe that this scenario is capable of being fulfilled, but do you :)?


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Rostock on June 30, 2018, 11:28:14 PM
No whale will listen to your consent about the market.

The market is constantly falling
Don't spread FUD, the market isn't falling so far if bitcoin goes to lower than $1000 then we can start it calling falling or even lower than that.

But have you seen what's with it today? it has moved up anyway, the market itself went up today.
I think that the whales only partly affect the fall of the cryptocurrency market, as quite strongly the market is influenced by scammers and countries that in no way bind themselves with cryptocurrencies. The inaction of such countries has led to an increasing number of fraudsters who can steal other people's funds with impunity, and not only in small amounts.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: miracle24 on June 30, 2018, 11:33:18 PM
I think Bitcoin has found its bottom around $6k area. Let the Whales play, when the are done, we will be here to make money.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: sam53 on June 30, 2018, 11:34:24 PM
On the cryptocurrency market, the thing that worries me the most is panic sell. At a time when the exchange rate is down, new entrants into the market will become panic-stricken and will sell all of their cryptos and abandon the market, which will cause exchange rates to drop quickly and hard to recover in a short time.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Teraboy on June 30, 2018, 11:38:57 PM
Dear whales, if you or your bots let bitcoin drop more, people will give up and you will have noone to pull money from. Smart money won't play because smart money can't play only against each other. At the end of the day, big investment base will be needed but people are getting driven away. Just because members here are keeping positive, general public ridicules bitcoin and altcoins. This is unhealthy and it is not good for anyone.
And i guess the whales will never try to hear it. They are creating a lot of manipulation to the market. Remember there is a lot of media can be controlled by pay some money to the author to create such a fake or even rumour to FOMO the market.  


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: negancoin on June 30, 2018, 11:40:59 PM
Just like traditional market, Whales and Bots are part of the games just accept that and it will be always that way. If you are smart, you can make money when market is falling or rising.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: edgycorner on June 30, 2018, 11:43:23 PM
Everytime it's not the whales.Bitcoins has grown over the last year that even an average joe holds some of it.
So a small dip causes a wave of common psychological effect.And when it reaches too low, people look at this as an opportunity and thus it becomes bullish for a while.

Some times liquidation is the cause of such drops, but not every time! And many people know this, so they are not giving up :v
Believe in the power of bitcoin :D


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: hiburak on June 30, 2018, 11:45:59 PM
Although I don't think the whales have the control, you may be right as well. Because the more people giving up, the longer it will take for the market to enjoy the bull market.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Swenna on July 01, 2018, 12:25:39 AM
It is true that whales can manipulate the market but it does not mean that they are the sole reason of the drop ans decline of the market volume as there are many other factors that affects it.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: kingdomofhearts on July 01, 2018, 12:29:05 AM
If whales are really responsible for this price fall then I must say that it is high time that they should stop doing such manipulation. The market is going down beyond expectation and for this many are leaving the market. If this continues then the whales too will get nothing from the market in future and the purpose of their manipulation will fail.

I agree! Freaking whales need to stop manipulating the market and just get over with this. Too much dumping of prices makes everyone leave and making the price of crypto market dump even more. Worst case scenario, things will get dump to shit and so cryptocurrency market will be a goner. Whales lose money as well more than anyone.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Sebas.tian on July 01, 2018, 12:36:00 AM
Cryptocurrency is a zero-sum game. Investors who venture in this space ought to know that first and if they loose their capital, it's on them; not to the whales, other investors or any other people in this space. I don't hate what the whales are doing right now (if there ever was) since you can benefit from it if a decision is made correctly. Besides, it would be a good way to weed out weak hands that is no good in the future.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Remix00525 on July 01, 2018, 01:00:23 AM
Whales at it again, whenever the market is falling like this I worry less, instead I just find a means to buy the dip because I know the green days are very close by.


I agree. There will be always a whales at something. For me instead of worrying I try to take advantage of the situation at the moment, like buying since there was a sign that the value will rise up. So better to be prepared for the worst.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: akirasendo17 on July 01, 2018, 01:05:59 AM
I think you should not panic, its normal for a thing to sometimes go down
the reason are too many to elaborate, but one big cause is that people
believe in fake news, they panic suddenly selling their coins, and what is the
result price will go down to much supply flooding in the exchanges will drag the price
everyone needs to understand, law of supply and demand is applied to this
many coins low price less coins high price, when it come to trading always remember that
if someone bids 6000 dollars the guy want to buy will make it 6200usd just keep holding and dont
give in thats what everyone need to do i hope i help you, thanks more power guys


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: hani1929 on July 01, 2018, 01:23:51 AM
If its true that whales do the manipulation, i think many investor will leave in the market and they no new investors will get to crypto because of its risk. This is the biggest dip in history of bitcoin  correct me if im wrong. But some of people think taking this advantage  to take their chance  to invest in crypto currency. But now  the market is in green mode maybe it will start recovering and we hope so it will never go down again.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: akirasendo17 on July 01, 2018, 01:31:04 AM
If its true that whales do the manipulation, i think many investor will leave in the market and they no new investors will get to crypto because of its risk. This is the biggest dip in history of bitcoin  correct me if im wrong. But some of people think taking this advantage  to take their chance  to invest in crypto currency. But now  the market is in green mode maybe it will start recovering and we hope so it will never go down again.
That is correct, someone flood the network with transactions, im excited with the lightning network,
someone last night with 48000 bitcoin with a fee of 4 cents how fast and cheap was that,
i think this will be a good insight of what is to come so im so excited and this will open the gates for new oppurtunities


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: gela888gela on July 01, 2018, 02:21:25 AM
I think the whales read this thread already. LOL. Whole crypto market is being painted in green right at the beginning of today ;D. Although price of BTC and ETH don't increase so much but I can see that it's a good signal that  crypto world is retrieving and seem like July everything will be better and nobody has to worry about price of BTC and all other cryptocurrencies anymore ;D
I think the pope will not care about this thread, because of course they take a fruitful attitude of profit rather than caring. Yes, it looks like July will be better, and all hope so. The market is starting to turn green but no one can be sure it will last for long or return to red clarity.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: pallang on July 01, 2018, 11:40:13 AM
Don't listen to some fake news people are spreading about cryptocurrency now that the price is low and so people panic and sell their coins even at low price and this may cause price to slowly going down.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Lancusters on July 01, 2018, 11:45:03 AM
Dear whales, if you or your bots let bitcoin drop more, people will give up and you will have noone to pull money from. Smart money won't play because smart money can't play only against each other. At the end of the day, big investment base will be needed but people are getting driven away. Just because members here are keeping positive, general public ridicules bitcoin and altcoins. This is unhealthy and it is not good for anyone.
I don't agree with you. Whales have launched bots for trading on all exchanges. But they can't control prices all the time. Why do you need to sell bitcoin at low prices. Leave the market and don't sell coins. Pause for a few months. Whales, too, can not trade among themselves indefinitely. The losses will force them to surrender their positions.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: cryptothreads on July 01, 2018, 11:46:39 AM
Don't listen to some fake news people are spreading about cryptocurrency now that the price is low and so people panic and sell their coins even at low price and this may cause price to slowly going down.
Most of the new entrants to the market are afraid of bad news and they are always the first to panic on the market. I think before you invest in a coin, you should thoroughly study the information about that project because if you do not test it will take a lot of profit and the best advice is to choose the coin that the whale usually Pay attention because I'm convinced that anything can happen in this market


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: qazgroup on July 01, 2018, 11:50:18 AM
Take it easy bro, everything is dangerous and risky in life, we do not know what next day will bring to us, we cannot een predict the amount of years we will live, similarly crypto markets are no different there will be big ups and then downs too, im still positive about crypto market and we will soon start seeing recovery, just stay patient.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: kotajikikox on July 01, 2018, 11:54:17 AM
Dear whales, if you or your bots let bitcoin drop more, people will give up and you will have noone to pull money from. Smart money won't play because smart money can't play only against each other. At the end of the day, big investment base will be needed but people are getting driven away. Just because members here are keeping positive, general public ridicules bitcoin and altcoins. This is unhealthy and it is not good for anyone.


Do you have point that have possible small investors giving up to invest in bitcoin and altcoins because scares of over manipulation of whales inside cryptocurrency.

I suggest to them, it is possible have a truth scenarios about whales manipulation please do not play the price over to become small investor's disapointed to invest in crypto.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: cryptolord2077 on July 01, 2018, 11:58:09 AM
According to statistics, in each month there are fewer and fewer ICOs, and projects collect less investment. Therefore people who could not earn leave crypto.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: neatworld on July 01, 2018, 12:08:39 PM
Every single one of you who is worried about the falling price of Bitcoin probably didn't do a lot of research before getting into crypto - or maybe you didn't get the memo: Bitcoin fluctuates. That's the nature of the game. Look at the charts and the historical data... you will see that for every relatively astronomical rise, there was a pretty substantial fall.

I believe that crypto isn't going anywhere, and it's just a matter of refining its capabilities and normalising the tech before mass adoption occurs. So my personal strategy is to buy the dip (cautiously) and hold what I had from before. I have written off several stupid mistakes (learning experiences) I made in December that were pure FOMO, and am going to try to be wiser with my trading in the next bull market.

Also, I highly doubt the whales are bothering to read this forum, so appealing to their 'kinder' nature seems like a moot point  :-\ ;)


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Tidsdilatation on July 01, 2018, 12:13:40 PM
Hopefully alot of large investor firms have lost alot of money now in the crypto space  ;D ;D enough to make them afraid of ever entering again. I would rather have price of 3k dollars, then 25k dollars with instututional investors.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: lghdt943 on July 01, 2018, 12:14:47 PM
No matter what the whales do, this can only affect one part. It does not mean that the entire cryptocurrency is under their control. Some people give up and leave. More people will join. This market will always operate. And the trend is getting better and better and is understood by more people. Abandoning people and joining people, I believe that adding more, the market will not be more dangerous, it will only get better and better.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Oasisman on July 01, 2018, 12:21:36 PM
Dear whales, if you or your bots let bitcoin drop more, people will give up and you will have noone to pull money from. Smart money won't play because smart money can't play only against each other. At the end of the day, big investment base will be needed but people are getting driven away. Just because members here are keeping positive, general public ridicules bitcoin and altcoins. This is unhealthy and it is not good for anyone.

Its funny how after this post, the market is filled with green today. But, actually big players knows how to play the market, whether when will they stop dumping nor when will they start pumping. Infact, only a few people who losses their hope and jump off from cryptocurrency, than the people who waits for the dip and ride the bull soon.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: batang_bitcoin on July 01, 2018, 12:22:50 PM
Dangerous if there is a little market cap left but the total crypto market cap is still in good state so don't use some words that can mislead other investors.

I agree with the bots but that's how they trade and there's no way to stop them (I guess?).


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: harrypot on July 01, 2018, 12:23:14 PM
I also think that giving up is not a good thing.Main success will arrive in bitcoin if you have a lot of patient. Without it you will end with giving up.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: chairmanMao on July 01, 2018, 12:29:25 PM
We can think of the problem, whales have long thought of.The purpose of the whales is to make money. The purpose of everyone is the same.But whales have more information and more money, so if they don't do enough, they won't stop.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: bittraffic on July 01, 2018, 12:32:39 PM
Come on. If people leave, they deserve to lose. Its not that they are going to leave forever, sooner when the price lift up again those kids will come running back with a stash from their dad's credit card. No one is giving up. The price dip to $2000 would be good for someone who has saved some money from the great pump last year.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Ian Dave on July 01, 2018, 12:33:52 PM
We should not be afraid of, these because we believe that there will be a big comeback every half of a year. We just need the wise decision and be patient in waiting for the higher price.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Golftech on July 01, 2018, 12:40:35 PM
Dear whales, if you or your bots let bitcoin drop more, people will give up and you will have noone to pull money from. Smart money won't play because smart money can't play only against each other. At the end of the day, big investment base will be needed but people are getting driven away. Just because members here are keeping positive, general public ridicules bitcoin and altcoins. This is unhealthy and it is not good for anyone.

Its funny how after this post, the market is filled with green today. But, actually big players knows how to play the market, whether when will they stop dumping nor when will they start pumping. Infact, only a few people who losses their hope and jump off from cryptocurrency, than the people who waits for the dip and ride the bull soon.
That's right, only few who left this industry only those who didn't find time to fully understand how the system works and how the whales can possibly manipulate the market, but those who loves taking the risk and find time to ride with the situations then opportunity still open and making money can
still be done if being played well.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: klavuhn on July 01, 2018, 12:43:18 PM
I think same with you. Everytime atleast threre was one people which complaining about market and give up in crypto. And if it happen maybe it will became end of Cryptocurrency. Also we here which know more about Cryptocurrency, we have to be patience because we all know that the market down because many reason and will recover back one day.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: arthur304 on July 01, 2018, 12:44:32 PM
What ever is happening in the market are just temporary situations so no conclusions can be drawn now. We can only be hopeful that the market will recover completely soon.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Atila0712 on July 01, 2018, 12:48:11 PM
There will always be a people who will easily give up.
Main thing is that FUD and scammers to be filtered and inflitrated asap, so that healthy process will be initiated.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: gostop on July 01, 2018, 12:49:44 PM
Your point of view is wrong, the decline is not the cause of the whale, the whale does not have to be responsible for you, this is the rule of the game, you can not see the rules of finance.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: strtype on July 01, 2018, 12:50:56 PM
whales manipulate the price, then the investors pull money. So idk if whales are the only one to be blamed.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: carlisle1 on July 01, 2018, 12:55:27 PM
The market is constantly falling, the abandonment of the market of many investors led to the market decline and sharp decline of the altcoin. I think everyone should be comfortable and do not worry, hold the altcoin until the end of the year, the price will rise again.

Youre talking as if you have really holding some amounts?lol youre just here to have added post counts for the campaign you have wearing

I am proud to say holding my coins for more than 5 months now and will stil hold until i reached my target amount,and no matter what happen i will still hold my folio


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Haunebu on July 01, 2018, 12:55:51 PM
What are you going on about op? Are you a fortune teller? Can you accurately predict what will happen in the future? If you cannot, stop making these baseless claims without any sort of evidence to support your argument here. This market has always been extremely volatile due to which Bitcoin and altcoin values fluctuate a lot, but they never disappeared since they are here to stay. Don't blame the current bear market situation on the whales. Everyone are aware of the risks here which is why you are free to leave the market if you are not ready to take the risk.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: acilona116 on July 01, 2018, 12:58:24 PM
Yes, like whales are concern about any of your word. I think they not even on BitcoinTalk. If you think they care, they don't. Then those dumps will be near finish line, they will start buying. No smart investor will dump if he bought higher then current price.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: sidebyside on July 01, 2018, 12:58:54 PM
The market is worsening as most whales are selling bitcoins.  fact, if this situation persists, investors are pouring capital into the bitcoin they will give up and let the whale free to sell it. And finally, investors and whales will lose money too. They are making the bitcoin image worse.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: rdzepc on July 01, 2018, 01:23:47 PM
You don't have to worry, the market is declining now, and it is very normal for people to abandon their investment. When the market starts to rise gradually, more people will come back to the cryptocurrency investment.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: ginobitcoiner on July 01, 2018, 01:32:08 PM
Dear whales, if you or your bots let bitcoin drop more, people will give up and you will have noone to pull money from. Smart money won't play because smart money can't play only against each other. At the end of the day, big investment base will be needed but people are getting driven away. Just because members here are keeping positive, general public ridicules bitcoin and altcoins. This is unhealthy and it is not good for anyone.

yes, I also hope the big whales who have a lot of capital should not be too toyed the market is too severe. raising or lowering the price is indeed the right of them as people who have large capital. but I hope it is not this bad. because this can kill bitcoin and the big whales will not benefit


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: mihtju on July 01, 2018, 01:35:16 PM
I that the strongly doubt, that whales sit on this forum and reading new posts. Many are beginning to doubt cryptocurrencies, but also for many people it has become an opportunity to invest in cryptocurrency while prices have fallen.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: reinerdar on July 01, 2018, 01:40:13 PM
It is foolish to believe on your part that the markets are run by people who understand less than you,if you can not understand the meaning of this action,it does not mean that the fool is a whale)


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Reid on July 01, 2018, 01:46:02 PM
Is it really the trading industry that we should be looking at?

If that is the case, then what is the difference of bitcoin with other coins out there that is just being played in the market for the price to pulled up or down?

It should not be just about that.
We need more merchants accepting bitcoin. That way, it will be  used more as a tool for exchange with items rather than just being a trading item.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: cryptocurrentdan on July 01, 2018, 01:46:11 PM
I don't think the price is a result of whales. People are just losing faith in crypto. The 10x in a few weeks promises have burned a few people but those that are still 2or3x up have probably just thought sod it ill get out.

However when the price is low enough again the believers will invest again.  


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Simayi on July 01, 2018, 02:00:18 PM
I think the manipulation of whales is only a factor that affects prices. The real factor is that the market has not gimmicks to attracted more people to invest in,In the past year, the cause of the real hot market was ICO's boom, but now ICO has been hard to attract people's investment.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: farnandezetn on July 01, 2018, 04:21:30 PM
Yes the market is being highly affected for the whales. But I will tell that the market will recover within a very short time. The investors just need to keep some more patience. As per I believe that the market will recover within the end of 2018.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: bigvito19 on July 01, 2018, 04:27:08 PM
Maybe y'all should pull y'all money out and leave the whales with bags  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: hollet on July 01, 2018, 04:29:08 PM
If some people are giving up because of the very dropped price as this day, It means that many more people may feel happy of your give-up. Yeah, some people who have big money will think powerfully to take all your coins easily and cheaply. Additionally, the prices are still on going, they are changing. S, why should give up?


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: jvper on July 01, 2018, 04:31:16 PM
People leaving may cause a price depression in the short term but I don't care much about it on the long run. Price will eventually move towards its economically correct price considering demand and supply.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: anobtc on July 01, 2018, 04:34:47 PM
Dear whales, if you or your bots let bitcoin drop more, people will give up and you will have noone to pull money from. Smart money won't play because smart money can't play only against each other. At the end of the day, big investment base will be needed but people are getting driven away. Just because members here are keeping positive, general public ridicules bitcoin and altcoins. This is unhealthy and it is not good for anyone.
It's so sad that Whales may leave this market (Market cap decrease by more than 300%), let wait and hope for a new positive signal in the future. Marketcap still small compare to other markets (just 250 Bil).


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: nasipadang on July 01, 2018, 04:43:41 PM
Dear whales, if you or your bots let bitcoin drop more, people will give up and you will have noone to pull money from. Smart money won't play because smart money can't play only against each other. At the end of the day, big investment base will be needed but people are getting driven away. Just because members here are keeping positive, general public ridicules bitcoin and altcoins. This is unhealthy and it is not good for anyone.
I'm sure the whales know what you mean, it's just that they are waiting for a very good time to emerge from the surface, I think whales is very clever maybe even smarter than us, try to think from the whales point of view, I'm sure you will understand where they will appear.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: BogdanGFTP on July 01, 2018, 04:51:42 PM
Today's situation was not unpredictable. It is expected behavior of fast-growing project. And I do not think that whales can impact on that natural process.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: bbcolex on July 01, 2018, 04:55:17 PM
Balls of Steel remains, newbie and weak hands should go away. I know it's hard for us to be played by this so called whales, but we can't blame them instead of mining they can earn more bitcoin via manipulating the price to go the price further lower. I just hope bitcoin soon stabilize though I know it's kinda impossible.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: dogtana on July 01, 2018, 05:23:59 PM
You must look at mainstream media, not bitcointalk sentiment. They are enjoying the fall of Bitcoin and in comments people are screaming I tooold you sooo, ridiculing investors and investors are silenced and shamed :(. Crypto needs to be saved before it is too late. Many got burned badly and those won't come back ever. Something needs to be done.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: madtea on July 01, 2018, 05:40:44 PM
The destructive nature of crypto. When people own crypto they praise their coins to heaven, when they sold "we're going to $2000", "BTC is dead", "dump incoming!". When people say this, it's generally an excellent time to buy. It means most people with weak hands sold and are desperately trying to prevent a new rally out of FOMO.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Coltpython on July 01, 2018, 05:42:00 PM
I wouldn't panic too much yet because of the coin price. BTC is still quite high in value when you look at it compared to this time last year. If it starts going below $1k usd then it is time to really panic


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: AlphaGoo on July 01, 2018, 05:48:48 PM
I wouldn't panic too much yet because of the coin price. BTC is still quite high in value when you look at it compared to this time last year. If it starts going below $1k usd then it is time to really panic
If Bitcoin's market price is less than $1,000, that means all miners will go bankrupt. Bitcoin at this price is already close to the death line. I don't think we can see Bitcoins below $1,000, so you say this The situation will not happen.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: aoebtc01 on July 01, 2018, 05:50:28 PM
Be greedy when people are scared. Whales are doing their job well. They are buying altcoin at a cheap price to wait until a suitable time when pumping altcoin they will sell out and will earn a huge profit. Whale knows what they have to do !!


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Victorycoin on July 01, 2018, 06:04:22 PM
Just like traditional market, Whales and Bots are part of the games just accept that and it will be always that way. If you are smart, you can make money when market is falling or rising.
It is a free economy after all and even whales are looking to make profits, which no one can deny them. At any rate, the whales are not so much a threat to the price of Bitcoin, as is the ignorance and too much expectations of many traders. Whales in every market are able to manipulate the market because of the added advantage of the huge stake they hold, which also predisposes them to greater risks but the juicy part is that there's free entry. To every discerning trader, whales create opportunities for profit making, when you ride behind and not in front of them.

 


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: romanjose1402 on July 01, 2018, 06:08:16 PM
Actually there's a lot of factors that make the market drop like it's been doing lately but, the best thing would be to wait patiently until great investors come again, so the altcoins and btc could grow again.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: cryptosyss on July 01, 2018, 06:11:49 PM
Whales have already got everything they wanted, and now they are waiting for the crypto-currency market to recover again. I think people just do not give up on cryptocurrency, they will fight to the last.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Aleister Crowley on July 01, 2018, 06:20:21 PM
Do not just talk to me because I'm not so sure of what you're saying,, I do not see with so many people breaking away and losing only in this market struggle., so do not try to convince someone,. rather that people want to wait for a price the cheaper is not to be lost forever,,, try not to spread the panic and it turns out that people are smarter in making good decisions...
it is inevitable that whales will always be there at all times,. be smart to devise the best strategy to follow every advantage the pope gets.,.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Jobbernowl on July 01, 2018, 06:29:08 PM
Oh, easy, guy.
I think that there are no whales on this forum. But if they are, then they can be counted on the fingers of two hands. Assuming that someone from them peeks into this thread and reads your message, he will not answer.
It's just like my boss. He doesn't discuss his decisions, he doesn't listen to anyone. I understand your emotions. But I'm afraid it does not make sense.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: avonka on July 01, 2018, 07:27:04 PM
During last hype many new investors entered the market who do not understand how the market works and panicking and leaving. Whales has nothing to do  with this situation, as nobody is forcing anybody to sell. It is good for the market if investors educate themselves about the blockchain technology and market. It is a self-cleaning on the Crypto market - weak hands and non-patient  leaving.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: blockman on July 01, 2018, 08:38:54 PM
I think that the whales only partly affect the fall of the cryptocurrency market
No they aren't partly affecting the fall of cryptocurrencies. They are even said to be one of the biggest influencer for the market but also they have something to do with pumps as well.

as quite strongly the market is influenced by scammers and countries that in no way bind themselves with cryptocurrencies.
Scammers are rarely reported to medias but most of the time hacks are popular than it. When there are hack incidents and reports, the market is reacting quickly.

The inaction of such countries has led to an increasing number of fraudsters who can steal other people's funds with impunity, and not only in small amounts.
Crypto's are decentralized so we can't blame these countries too, they have their own way of implementing sanctions to scammers/fraudsters/robbers/stealers IRL.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: nobetci on July 01, 2018, 09:24:12 PM
I don't think this situation has a permanent effect on the new investments in cryptocurrencies. The current market is giving fear to new investors, but I think it is a high possibility that many investors will invest in again the cryptocurrencies after the beginning of the first strong rising.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: StevenPop on July 01, 2018, 09:57:01 PM
The thing is that once the whales can get the prices to fall a bit then the ordinary investors tend to do the rest of the work for them by panicking and leaving cryptocurrencies which is not a good thing for the market. The more people leave, the further down that the prices of the coins fall to which is bad


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: seven2smoke1 on July 01, 2018, 10:09:46 PM
The market is constantly falling, the abandonment of the market of many investors led to the market decline and sharp decline of the altcoin. I think everyone should be comfortable and do not worry, hold the altcoin until the end of the year, the price will rise again.
A lot of us still believe in the crypto market that will rebound by the end of this year, It should rebound and grow. In the last few months, we didn't see any good increases of prices, we can say that the last months are too bad for crypto and for the market in general, but I believe that by the end of this year everything will be okay for crypto, we will see a high increase of price like the last year 2017, We all remember that the last year, bitcoin are increased too much in the last months.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: EdwardClinton on July 03, 2018, 06:35:17 PM
I do not think that this will be happened. Bitcoin is the most popular and the reliable coin in the market of crypto currency. The market of crypto currency is very much volatile. Nothing is sure here so such event is possible. Here the price depends on the market not on the bots.I believe that investors are more intelligent now than the previous.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Raizou on July 03, 2018, 07:25:15 PM
I do not think that this will be happened. Bitcoin is the most popular and the reliable coin in the market of crypto currency. The market of crypto currency is very much volatile. Nothing is sure here so such event is possible. Here the price depends on the market not on the bots.I believe that investors are more intelligent now than the previous.


I fully agree with the level of rising investors, formerly the level is amateur much more than the current days. So we can not believe in the desistance of the investors and also put the market blame in the whales or in the institutions but we should only play the game. In technical terms, we can compare the previous years to conclude whether really stamped on the low market or just is a great correction. Recalling that the price of Bitcoin was $ 2500 in the same period of the year 2017.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: zamani12 on July 03, 2018, 07:48:46 PM
this issue should be an issue of great concern because no matter how bad it is we cannot allow the market to fall, then again we have to do everything within our powers to ensure peoples participation in the business. creating more awareness will also go a long way.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: AlekSandRAx on July 03, 2018, 09:28:34 PM
The price of Bitcoin is not that low yet. Compared to 2017 it's 2-3x higher, compared to July 2016 it's 10x higher!

The whole whales point is buying low and selling high. Trust me for them it's still not low enough.

Market crash is no one's goal, especially not whales. That is why it will not happen.

Reasons:
  • there's too much money in the game,
  • there's no reason for a crash.

As long as the prices fluctuate we're good. This is how the profit is done.

It's every individual's who's involved in crypto business job and duty to know the market well enough to make right decisions for themself. People are giving up because they got involved in something they do not understand and are not even trying to.

The whales are not a problem here, people who have no clue what they are doing are.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Sniper76 on July 03, 2018, 10:03:28 PM
You think large purses are dealing with your requests. They press and press, they want you to lose all your money and only then they will start another growth.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Primal6666 on July 03, 2018, 10:16:48 PM
Dear whales, if you or your bots let bitcoin drop more, people will give up and you will have noone to pull money from. Smart money won't play because smart money can't play only against each other. At the end of the day, big investment base will be needed but people are getting driven away. Just because members here are keeping positive, general public ridicules bitcoin and altcoins. This is unhealthy and it is not good for anyone.

Whales do not read such topics, and certainly do not need your advice. If they listened to the opinion of every unprofessional trader, Holder and followed his advice, they would never become whales. Much more than whales, the decline of the market is influenced by speculators and media resources, predicting a drop in prices. Although I'm sure that big market players use this and put the right information into the right heads.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: duonghi99c88 on July 04, 2018, 09:51:14 AM
No matter what the whales do, this can only affect one part. It does not mean that the entire cryptocurrency is under their control. Some people give up and leave. More people will join. This market will always operate. And the trend is getting better and better and is understood by more people. Abandoning people and joining people, I believe that adding more, the market will not be more dangerous, it will only get better and better.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: EzatorFI on July 04, 2018, 10:03:15 AM
Dear whales, if you or your bots let bitcoin drop more, people will give up and you will have noone to pull money from. Smart money won't play because smart money can't play only against each other. At the end of the day, big investment base will be needed but people are getting driven away. Just because members here are keeping positive, general public ridicules bitcoin and altcoins. This is unhealthy and it is not good for anyone.

I think this is what I'm thinking about right now - how much this manipulation has bothered. Unfortunately, whales do not care about ordinary traders, and even if people now leave the market, when the growth begins, new ones will come. Just stay positive and wait


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: surgical_duude on July 04, 2018, 10:09:43 AM
Dear whales, if you or your bots let bitcoin drop more, people will give up and you will have noone to pull money from. Smart money won't play because smart money can't play only against each other. At the end of the day, big investment base will be needed but people are getting driven away. Just because members here are keeping positive, general public ridicules bitcoin and altcoins. This is unhealthy and it is not good for anyone.

If the whale is responsible, then they are not a whale. If we can't fight them, we can choose to follow them. Finally, they don't care what you said. Look for another opportunity instead of complaining, because the whale is not the cause of your failure.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Nikitavoz on July 04, 2018, 10:51:38 AM
I began to lose money on medium-term investments. I have never been engaged in day trading, but I think that now it is worth doing this.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: int226 on July 04, 2018, 10:53:36 AM
Maybe they will not care about you, what they care about is profit. And I firmly believe that most of us are.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: smhome354 on July 04, 2018, 10:56:09 AM
Some may have been given up but there are still loyal investors who are not leaving crypto. That's because they were able to earn in the past and still believe that crypto is here to stay. I also believe that digital currency will continue to be lucrative in the future.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: DikkieD on July 04, 2018, 10:59:18 AM
I think us small timers are simply at the hands of those that still need to get a comfortable position in btc or in any other high potential projects. Have you seen the walls to keep prices low, it's not only btc, it's every high potential project. I think these are great developments, but I hear you that it sometimes gets frustrated as it looks like they are overplaying their hand(s).

I think this drop was bound to happen at some point. So many people that were responsible for getting btc to $20k have either lost big time, or have seen their position decrease. Either way, times like this require us to be patient....things will turn, as I think so many believe in blockchain nowadays :).


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: hijack88 on July 04, 2018, 11:05:28 AM
Most of the investments that people made were in the late december 2017 when the price was in the highest point. Its not hard to predict that it will fall eventually as the growth in 2017 was purely speculative and not backed by any significant situation.

Right now all you can do when you  want to make big bucks is to invest in the long term. In few years the market will be cleared of all the altcoins that dont bring any value and the cash will be transfered to the ones that hold value. That might happen in two years and it will be the time of market consolidation when the prices will rise.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: iljamlnk on July 04, 2018, 11:28:13 AM
Yes, the price is really not happy this year.I do not know what it is connected with,but many lose patience ,waiting for growth.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Enyi001 on July 04, 2018, 11:35:17 AM
Those giving up are those who don't really understand how the market actually works. Do not give up for any reason whatsoever. The bulls have started returning gradually and it is expected that with little time, the market will bounce back to normalcy. Just keep holding if you are in loss.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: hell_slayer on July 04, 2018, 11:46:27 AM
This is exactly what whales want . They want people to gave up to provoke a panic sale and buy crypto almost for free . You are wrong , if you think that crypto will be destroyed if bitcoin will fall to 3k or lower . Yes , some part of investors and traders will quit crypto , but they will be replaced by a new people when whales will pump bitcoin to the moon .


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: fulmetal08larz on July 04, 2018, 11:47:01 AM
I don't think that the whales are at fault in the recent downfall across cryptoverse. They just did what they are supposed to do, when everyone's buying, they sell - Buy Low, Sell High. When everyone's selling, they could be buying discreetly so that it won't be obvious to the public eye - it is part of their strategy. What the public should be doing including us small time investors is to think like the whales and swim with the waves they create, Better days will come.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Qunetick on July 04, 2018, 12:00:23 PM
Some may have been given up but there are still loyal investors who are not leaving crypto. That's because they were able to earn in the past and still believe that crypto is here to stay. I also believe that digital currency will continue to be lucrative in the future.

This is merely part of the game. Even how much the price of bitcoin goes down, those who know and believe won't leave. It is understandable, that there are low points in the market, even if it is done by whales or not. Those who understand believes that the price of btc will be uphill once again.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Caladonian on July 04, 2018, 12:13:30 PM
I began to lose money on medium-term investments. I have never been engaged in day trading, but I think that now it is worth doing this.
Coming out from this experience, it's better to find other means of style, trading is really unpredictable right now as the fluctuations are almost
unseen small jumped followed by deeper dip, we need to adjust and start to create more plans in order to survive and take advantage of anything
that involves our investment.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Psychee on July 04, 2018, 12:38:02 PM
no crypto project as Socratus is not dangerous but others are dangerous


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: NikkiS on July 04, 2018, 12:42:37 PM
Some may have been given up but there are still loyal investors who are not leaving crypto. That's because they were able to earn in the past and still believe that crypto is here to stay. I also believe that digital currency will continue to be lucrative in the future.

This is merely part of the game. Even how much the price of bitcoin goes down, those who know and believe won't leave. It is understandable, that there are low points in the market, even if it is done by whales or not. Those who understand believes that the price of btc will be uphill once again.
I also think that some will be replaced by others and there are enough investors who will hold to the end because they know that after the fall, growth will begin.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: SHawk on July 04, 2018, 12:48:08 PM
Yes, the price is really discouraging and no one really knows when it will be back to normal and increase but this does not mean we should all give up irrespective of what the big whales are doing with price manipulation rather, we should all keep strong and hope it normalize early before the end of the year. I believe people are giving up because they are scared of losing their money.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: rezurect on July 04, 2018, 12:50:14 PM
Dear whales, if you or your bots let bitcoin drop more, people will give up and you will have noone to pull money from. Smart money won't play because smart money can't play only against each other. At the end of the day, big investment base will be needed but people are getting driven away. Just because members here are keeping positive, general public ridicules bitcoin and altcoins. This is unhealthy and it is not good for anyone.

It's greed from one side, people do crazy things out of greed, and it's fear from the other side (the people selling).


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: The Goat Master on July 04, 2018, 12:51:51 PM
Maybe it is dangerous, but people are also learning they can lose money in this. This is not always win market.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: terible.hunter on July 04, 2018, 12:53:01 PM
And what else is left for people? Do you think that patience is eternal? I do not think so, I hope that you will sooner or later realize that investing is very different from such a thing as losing money in the crypto currency industry.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: IlfarIldarovich on July 04, 2018, 02:03:43 PM
it is the whales and are responsible for the price and it does not matter that people lose money. this is a financial market and everyone thinks only about himself. this selfishness allows you to earn money. but you can not priivate ,because soon the price will go up again. long fall or standing is not profitable even for whales


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: jpnl0003 on July 04, 2018, 02:07:06 PM
i totally agree with you in the dangers of the said people giving up but i don't want to agree with the fact that people are giving up on the crypto space as they seems to be heavily contributing in the ICOs they are upcoming.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: jpnl0002 on July 04, 2018, 02:15:05 PM
the fact that the market is keeping up with its features which involves the going up and down of the price values of various crypto currency assets does not in anyway mean that people are giving up in the technology. the technology is getting adopted on daily basis and globally.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: BlakeMye on July 04, 2018, 06:05:36 PM
there is no such possibility of such an issue or an event like this to happen in the future when it comes to the crypto market. bitcoin is the oldest and will always be at the top of the game. the investors are wise enough to decipher the right and wrong when it comes to investing in it.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Deshich on July 04, 2018, 06:11:51 PM
There will always be a people who will easily give up.
The main thing is that FUD and scammers to be filtered and infiltrated asap, so that healthy process will be initiated.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: fiorilia on July 04, 2018, 06:23:48 PM
This scheme is not entirely the cause of big investors. This cycle is already an annual time for crypto. It all depends on how the strategy to cope with this sort of thing so that it can be more beneficial than harmful. So actually all in the same have the opportunity.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Bay_Harbour_Butcher on July 04, 2018, 08:18:14 PM
I think the critical times of the crypto world have begun to pass, crypto was once in a very low position, and very dangerous for big investors who can lose confidence, but now crypto is recovering


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: SuperP on July 04, 2018, 08:19:51 PM
Who surrenders that does worse exclusively to himself, especially because of this situation on the market, very soon we will see the growth of the market!


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Bitcoinjheta on July 04, 2018, 08:26:12 PM
Maybe it is dangerous, but people are also learning they can lose money in this. This is not always win market.

Absolutely, those who will give up will never get rich as soon as the market will hit this year 2018 surpassing the 2017 value. Therefore, the meaning of price drop happen last two week is a preparation for you to buy some coins in the market for you to have a bigger earnings soon.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Behene on July 05, 2018, 11:45:07 AM
do not break your spirit remain optimistic that the market will give happiness to you be patient is the main key in success and i suggest you to hold your coins


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: JustASalad on July 05, 2018, 11:54:09 AM
The market is being health in my mind. Btc shot to 2k originally because of bots, so it probably went to 20k because of bots, its all being manipulated. I highly doubt we will see btc reach 20k this year.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Corelianer on July 05, 2018, 01:12:55 PM
This is exactly what they are trying to achieve, to sow panic and that you sell your bitcoin for a song. You do not understand how again then find yourself drawn into the Bull rally, as it was in the winter.


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: arthotdog on July 05, 2018, 01:16:18 PM
Dear whales, if you or your bots let bitcoin drop more, people will give up and you will have noone to pull money from. Smart money won't play because smart money can't play only against each other. At the end of the day, big investment base will be needed but people are getting driven away. Just because members here are keeping positive, general public ridicules bitcoin and altcoins. This is unhealthy and it is not good for anyone.
Are you begging them to pump atleast a little the price of market?lol

But nice encouragement from the manipulator's than they must make grow atleast for a while the price because if they continue this dropping they're bread and butter will gone and may bring this cryptoworld gone for good


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: babos8383 on July 05, 2018, 01:38:34 PM
I hope that bitcoin will restore its strength and make a great protection for the cryptocurrency. Otherwise, it sank to the bottom


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Victorycoin on July 09, 2018, 05:18:31 PM
The destructive nature of crypto. When people own crypto they praise their coins to heaven, when they sold "we're going to $2000", "BTC is dead", "dump incoming!". When people say this, it's generally an excellent time to buy. It means most people with weak hands sold and are desperately trying to prevent a new rally out of FOMO.
You're spot on as knowing the name and rules of a game ought to be a priority for anyone with intentions to survive in the game! If whales are indeed manipulating the price of Bitcoin so to buy back at cheaper rates, do they also have their hands on the throats of the quick fingers, that hits the sell bottom at the slightest upset in the market?

You must look at mainstream media, not bitcointalk sentiment. They are enjoying the fall of Bitcoin and in comments people are screaming I tooold you sooo, ridiculing investors and investors are silenced and shamed :(. Crypto needs to be saved before it is too late. Many got burned badly and those won't come back ever. Something needs to be done.
I am afraid if anyone got that burned, it should be obvious they have not been looking or playing by the rules. Anyone that sincerely wants to effect a change, must realize the one to blame is not the other man, but the face that stares back at them in the mirror!


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: alex7308 on July 10, 2018, 03:36:52 AM
Be greedy when people are scared. Whales are doing their job well. They are buying altcoin at a cheap price to wait until a suitable time when pumping altcoin they will sell out and will earn a huge profit. Whale knows what they have to do !!


Title: Re: People giving up, this is getting dangerous
Post by: Fverak on July 19, 2018, 09:51:51 PM
Dear whales, in the event that you or your bots let bitcoin drop more, individuals will surrender and you will have noone to pull cash from. Keen cash won't play since shrewd cash can't play just against each other. Toward the day's end, enormous speculation base will be required however individuals are escaping. Because individuals here are keeping positive, overall population scorns bitcoin and altcoins. This is unfortunate and it isn't useful for anybody.