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Title: US Government Says Apple is NOT in Violation of Antitrust Law
Post by: zulu860 on February 09, 2014, 02:02:05 PM
The US Department of Justice (DOJ) has stated it will not take action against Apple for its recent decision to ban bitcoin apps.

The announcement comes amid a growing furore among bitcoin users, who were outraged by Apple’s decision to remove the official Blockchain app from its App Store earlier this week.

The DOJ stated:

“We have determined that the information provided does not raise antitrust issues that warrant further review by the Division.”

This response was prompted by bitcoin enthusiast Andy Chase, who submitted an official complaint to the agency’s Citizen Complaint Center.

Chase’s complaint was detailed, including an annotated explanation of bitcoin, and a detailed overview of the actions Apple has taken against apps from bitcoin companies, such as Blockchain, Coinbase, Coinjar and Gliph.

Chase summed up his argument with the following conclusion:

“While Apple may have legitimate claims against the use of these applications in countries where bitcoin use is prohibited, the companies should be provided with the ability to alter and re-submit their applications to operate within the terms and conditions provided by Apple and international law.”

Further, Chase was far from the only person to suspect Apple may be in violation of antitrust laws, with even major industry investors commenting as such publicly:

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Government response

The DOJ did not elaborate on its decision, and has not responded to requests for further comment. Instead, the department sent Chase three web links that it believes clarify why Apple is not in violation of antitrust laws.

These included the Department of Justice main website, a six-page guide called “Antitrust Enforcement and the Consumer” and a lengthier primer on antitrust issues for law enforcement officials.

It is likely the DOJ’s decision stems from the fact that Apple, which offers no payment services, does not directly compete with the bitcoin companies it has banned.

The complaint process

The Antitrust Division’s Citizen Complaint Center lists four steps that a complaint may take through the agency. Upon examination, Chase’s complaint did not make it far into the process, failing to garner even an additional review.

The CCC creates a record of the information provided.
The CCC conducts a preliminary review.
If the complaint raises concern under federal laws, it is sent to a legal team for review.
If the CCC needs more information, it will contact the claimant within one month.
Chase, commenting on the decision, lamented that this was “pretty much the lowest level of rejection”. Still, he doesn’t regret reaching out:

“While I wasn’t very confident that my complaint would lead anywhere (if nothing else, the bitcoin community is fairly small for the DOJ to invest in actions protecting its interests). I wanted to take advantage of the justice system and see if they were willing to look into it.”

Original Article:  http://www.coindesk.com/us-government-says-apple-violation-antitrust-law/


Title: Re: US Government Says Apple is NOT in Violation of Antitrust Law
Post by: guybrushthreepwood on February 09, 2014, 02:14:37 PM
Well they responded to that pretty quickly. I didn't even realise the petition had got enough votes.


Title: Re: US Government Says Apple is NOT in Violation of Antitrust Law
Post by: seriouscoin on February 09, 2014, 02:30:14 PM
Please stop buying Apple product for the sakes of technology innovation.... its not the first time they did this.


Title: Re: US Government Says Apple is NOT in Violation of Antitrust Law
Post by: hellscabane on February 09, 2014, 03:39:43 PM
Please stop buying Apple product for the sakes of technology innovation.... its not the first time they did this.

This is what we should do. We can't (and really shouldn't) depend on a governmental entity to provoke change. Especially for Bitcoin. Cryptocurrencies are in a uniquely tenuous position, and asking for action from a governmental entity on behalf of Bitcoin would muddy the waters even more than they are right now.

Really, the best thing to do is to not buy Apple products as a community. Unfortunately, money will continue to speak much louder than rulings and acting accordingly is the only way to affect that desired change.


Title: Re: US Government Says Apple is NOT in Violation of Antitrust Law
Post by: EchoingUprise on February 09, 2014, 03:42:08 PM
Please stop buying Apple product for the sakes of technology innovation.... its not the first time they did this.


Agreed. But this decision does not surprise me one bit.


Title: Re: US Government Says Apple is NOT in Violation of Antitrust Law
Post by: Elwar on February 09, 2014, 03:49:49 PM
Horrible approach.

There is no need to use the government to force a company to do something it does not want to do.


Title: Re: US Government Says Apple is NOT in Violation of Antitrust Law
Post by: eafdeafd on February 09, 2014, 05:31:05 PM
You know, you can jailbreak your iPhone and install the official Blockchain app from Cydia...
Apple probably wants to avoid legal issues because the legality of Bitcoin varies quite a bit from country to country.