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Title: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: marlboroza on July 04, 2018, 04:25:16 PM
Follow these steps:

1) Delete all your posts from bounty thread
2) Remove all promotion material from social media about scam project.
3) When you are done send me PM

! Negative feedback will be changed to neutral, if you are tagged second time for promoting scam ICO don't send me PM.
! If you are tagged for promoting ponzi don't send me PM.
! Don't send me PM after ICO/bounty ended, bounty topic was locked or domain has been suspended, I won't respond to your PM





I won't respond to PM's for Monopoly, Gigahash, WECHAIN NETWORK, Yang global, Ripple Lite Network, Ultrix, Onasander, Equiten, Quio, easywork, swish any more.

Update: this is not valid for next ICO's: The English Hub, Lexzoom, Xeonframe, Strix global, Ethereum White, Regixium, Digithoth, Blockmall.
Update: no longer valid for cointrooper.
Update: no longer valid for Aircraft.


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: mdayonliner on July 04, 2018, 04:36:46 PM
Did you just slapped (virtual) on digaran's face?  :P
Here you could see (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4593750.0) how he locked the thread immediately after I posted there.
Sorry for the off-topic, I just could not resist myself laughing after seeing this topic. This will surely embarrass him.  


Anyway, good to see the post. I do believe people need their chances and this is a good example for it.



Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: pugman on July 04, 2018, 09:49:12 PM
I don't mean to like be an asshole here, but is there really a need for trust removal guidelines(even for fake/scam ICOs)? Trust is entirely subjective, case by case, and asking users not to justify themselves no matter how made up it is, is just not fair. Just give them the benefit of the doubt. I sort of see a cliche of what some other DT members[1] do(like ignoring or blocking PMs, not hearing from the other party's perspective et al)
And seriously, don't ask anybody to delete their posts. There might be legal consequences for that, I believe the SEC are going after these fake ICOs, and theymos has been subpoenaed before, for other matters, but all related to illegal activities. And archive every possible thread/post on and off the forum, just in case.
[1] I am not going to say who they are, it is public knowledge,and there's public proof for it. And I don't mean to offend anybody here.


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: cabalism13 on July 06, 2018, 04:09:59 PM
I think this will be abused for some reason.
There's nothing wrong for giving 2nd chances but still I really don't agree with this as for we don't know if they'd already have some victims. Its kinda unfair don't you think?
But still I'm looking on the positive side of this offer for those who are also a victim of misleading everyone else.
Anyways, you're already a DT its all your call whether you continue this  :P


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: marlboroza on July 07, 2018, 04:41:32 PM
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I have already answered you. When you are done send me PM again.
I swear i will take care of scam projects from now. But dont forget to give a tutorial to detect scam projects.
Lets see:

Tutorial 1) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0
Tutorial 2) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=207.0

Best tutorials ever.


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on July 08, 2018, 08:41:13 PM
Look at this moronic PM exchange I just engaged in:

Sir I want to remove my negative trust could you please give me some suggestion for future and help me out really thankfull to you
I didn't give you a neg, you fucking moron.
Sorry for bothering you sir I don't know anything about this field I m new here can you help me and how can I know who give me negative trust??
Try contacting the person who gave it to you.  It should be obvious that's the starting point.
Sir how can know who give me this negative trust
***BLOCKED***

It blows my mind that people come here to spam with bounties and have no clue how this forum even works on a basic level--like clicking on the trust icon.  I had to show this to you, marlboroza.  I don't know how long this dude is going to be in the dark about this, but I did not feel the need to provide a link to this thread.


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: marlboroza on July 08, 2018, 09:22:29 PM
Look at this moronic PM exchange I just engaged in:

Sir I want to remove my negative trust could you please give me some suggestion for future and help me out really thankfull to you
I got the same PM  ;D
It blows my mind that people come here to spam with bounties and have no clue how this forum even works on a basic level--like clicking on the trust icon.
I received 50+ PM's today. Honestly, my head hurts. I probably said WTF hundred times today.

One of them suggested me that I should update bounty topic and alert everyone about scam ICO. How crazy is that  ::)


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: Vod on July 08, 2018, 09:27:26 PM
Look at this moronic PM exchange I just engaged in:

Sir I want to remove my negative trust could you please give me some suggestion for future and help me out really thankfull to you
I got the same PM  ;D

I received six messages from that bozo....


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: marlboroza on July 08, 2018, 09:38:51 PM
I received six messages from that bozo....
...they don't know where to look, but they do know who DT members are..


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: audaciousbeing on July 10, 2018, 09:11:48 PM
I received six messages from that bozo....
...they don't know where to look, but they do know who DT members are..

What they thought was that "maybe if I send a message to a senior guy, he can talk to the person who gave me the negative trust to have it removed." I think the problem is still about people not willing to learn the workings of the community and until when they run into problem, they start asking for help thinking it should be as easy as the community they all come from. I think I should appreciate @malboroza for giving a second chance. Some people innocently didn't know what they were entering and the moment they realize they make amends just like someone above whose rating was change to neutral.

He however did ask for some tutorial which I think you should maybe come up with something and if possible make it as a sticky in the beginners and help or bounty section where they are likely to see all of the ICOs coming out here and there.


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on July 11, 2018, 04:59:02 AM
they start asking for help thinking it should be as easy as the community they all come from.
Ask for help from who?  Total strangers?  Why not start with the person who left them the feedback?  

If this person had read anything that I'd written in the past, he'd realize that I'm not likely to do anything that he can't do himself, and the reason he doesn't know what to do is because he's a parasitic member of the community and doesn't do enough reading to figure it out.  Frankly, I'd be totally fine if marlboroza left all of his feedbacks, because these people aren't contributing anything here.

Hello sir <snip>
I'm apologize <snip>
please give me another chance sir. <snip>
please remove my negative trust sir <snip>
this is my first experience I get a scam ico on my bounty list sir. Thanks before :) <snip>
I get shit written like this all the time in my inbox, and I'm tired of it.  You see it all the time in Meta on those ban appeal threads.  I'm sorry, I won't do it again.  Sir. Give me another chance. Sir.  Please sir forgive me.  

These jackasses are cancer on bitcointalk.  OK, that's it for me in this thread.  Sorry for hijacking it, marlboroza.


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: ronaldinio on July 13, 2018, 02:46:19 PM
Hello everyone. Where can I find a list of managers who follow the scam ICO and can paint the trust to bounty participants? I need to monitor their messages and not get into the scam ICO\bounty.


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: Crypto like KSV on July 19, 2018, 10:19:53 AM
It would be great if someone from DT-members creates and pins in scam accusations the thread "warning: for the promotion of these companies the trust will be painted" - and in this branch put the names of the companies for which DT intends to paint the trust. So DT will spend less effort on warnings, and hunters will be able to see the warnings in time (they will not get lost in the flow of bot reports, as it is now).


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: marlboroza on July 19, 2018, 01:23:17 PM
Hello everyone. Where can I find a list of managers who follow the scam ICO and can paint the trust to bounty participants? I need to monitor their messages and not get into the scam ICO\bounty.
Try here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0 <--(edited  :-[  didn't see link was pointing to forum and not board)

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I know you folks don't have time to do research about anything because you need to retweet as much as you can ICO projects, but is it so damn hard to click first post in bounty topic, to look at OP's feedback and to click reference before you post weekly reports/apply to bounty campaign?


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: Crypto like KSV on July 19, 2018, 03:05:18 PM
I know you folks don't have time to do research about anything because you need to retweet as much as you can ICO projects, but is it so damn hard to click first post in bounty topic, to look at OP's feedback and to click reference before you post weekly reports/apply to bounty campaign?

marlboroza, please clarify whether i understood correctly: you mean that i should not promote any companies whose bounty-manager has a red trust?


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: marlboroza on July 19, 2018, 06:29:22 PM
I know you folks don't have time to do research about anything because you need to retweet as much as you can ICO projects, but is it so damn hard to click first post in bounty topic, to look at OP's feedback and to click reference before you post weekly reports/apply to bounty campaign?

marlboroza, please clarify whether i understood correctly: you mean that i should not promote any companies whose bounty-manager has a red trust?
Are you dumb or something?


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: HCP on July 20, 2018, 11:29:37 AM
What do I do if I created a marketing post to promote Telegram user add and then deleted after receiving a negative trust?
The best you can hope for, if you have actually learned your lesson, is to simply continue using the forum. Participate in discussions, make a meaningful contribution. Then, try to contact Lauda after maybe 6-12 months to demonstrate that you have learned from your mistakes and are actively contributing to the forum in a positive manner. They *might* then reconsider the trust rating, but considering the vast majority of your activity currently seems to be shilling "promoting" Glitzkoin, that looks like it could be a hard sell.


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The guy who gave me a negative trust has more than 50 negative feedback for his reputation but I have to suffer.
If you're talking about all the "untrusted" negative feedbacks that Lauda has received from the many many scammers, spammers and idiots that Lauda has tagged over the years... they don't really mean anything. They're just lashing out and trying to post a retaliatory negative feedback because they're angry they got caught...

I see only two negative feedbacks in Lauda's "trusted" feedback... and 16 positives (note: I run on the "default trust" settings).


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: HCP on August 05, 2018, 05:51:22 AM
That means, if there is scam ico bounty that I participate in the campaign (even I really don't know before that is "scam"), (even if I just a victim of these project)
will I also get "Red-Trust" ?
That is pretty much exactly what he is saying...

If you are promoting an ICO that is shown to be a scam... and then you continue to promote a known scam, then there is a good chance you will get tagged as "red trust" for promoting a scam. However, if you then remove ALL the posts/tweets etc that you have made on Bitcointalk/Facebook/Twitter etc promoting that scam, then he will reconsider (and possibly remove) your "red trust".

Moral of the story? Don't just promote any ICO hoping to earn a few dollars... Do your due diligence and make sure that the service/product you are actively promoting is legit and not some scam.


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: marlboroza on August 21, 2018, 09:39:11 PM
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I've replied you in your self moderated topic here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4928523.msg44480678#msg44480678 and just in case you remove post - archived http://archive.is/ByZWX.
You will receive no further response from me, consider yourself ignored.

On side note, I believe this is first time I've sent merit to someone after google helped me to translate whole thread  :D


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: Aroshnoor on August 27, 2018, 04:40:56 PM
hello i deleted my all post and follow your all rules .but you still don,t removed my negative trust.why .?please tell me why  you don,t removed my negative trust?
Please answer
for this reason i am now tired  .


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: angelakrasnova on September 03, 2018, 05:31:32 PM
Hello! I participated in the company bounty cointroops I wrote to you in a personal, but my letter to you did not come! I found all my posts on the twitter and deleted!
deleted it in the tweeter and on the forum!
my link: @krasnovaangela
Please change my trust!


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: marlboroza on September 03, 2018, 11:15:59 PM
I wrote to you in a personal, but my letter to you did not come!
Probably because I blocked your PM.
I am honestly tired of you guys spamming my inbox if I don't respond after 2 minutes to your messages, and not only that, most of you say you removed something, hoping I will never check, and after I check and after I see that you didn't remove anything, I send you links and you just repeat that you removed everything over and over again, until I block you - and then you actually stop promoting scam and shady ICO's. I am giving you benefit of doubt just because of bigger picture.
As I follow many exposed scams, it seems bounty hunters are not ignorant as they used to be. If only more DT members would tag these scam/shady ICO's it would really help to clean this forum from scumbags.


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: TopManagerCrypto on September 04, 2018, 06:01:47 AM
Hello!
I deleted all posts in that bounty thread and social media (https://www.facebook.com/biogrow.grow.5 and https://twitter.com/Dan123app001 - I work with this twitter account till August, than block it). Thank you for notification about scam project, you save my time and money. My friends informed about this scam project. Please, create my trust neutral back.
Thank you!


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: gupalasagupagup on September 04, 2018, 06:45:32 AM
I wrote to you in a personal, but my letter to you did not come!
Probably because I blocked your PM.
I am honestly tired of you guys spamming my inbox if I don't respond after 2 minutes to your messages, and not only that, most of you say you removed something, hoping I will never check, and after I check and after I see that you didn't remove anything, I send you links and you just repeat that you removed everything over and over again, until I block you - and then you actually stop promoting scam and shady ICO's. I am giving you benefit of doubt just because of bigger picture.
As I follow many exposed scams, it seems bounty hunters are not ignorant as they used to be. If only more DT members would tag these scam/shady ICO's it would really help to clean this forum from scumbags.

hi, sir,  you totaly right, but sometimes you bloked PM too soon.
i mean i do mistake and deleted all the posts I could from the branch of BTT (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4852781.0) also deleted all the reposts and retweets that I did and could find about this company.
but i miss one post, search worck strange on that forum. It shows onlt one post  from meny
or maybe i am stupid and cant use it right. then you show mised posts and block PM. how i must return my trust after that? i dont know...  
by the way could you return my trust to me if possible? ))

and another thing. in one of scamed threat someone just freez it (threat) thats realy helps you notise that somthinf wrong with ICO.

why do not they do it all the time?
I ask you just to better understand the rules of the forum.
and sorry for my english :( , this greatly hinders me in understanding some of the features of the forum
maybe I should more often use google translator  :)


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: marlboroza on September 04, 2018, 01:12:37 PM
Is there no chance that Retrus will be erased sir?
Again? Nop.

I deleted all posts in that bounty thread and social media (https://www.facebook.com/biogrow.grow.5
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My friends informed about this scam project.
Is this the way how you informed your 5000 friends about ICO who refused (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4961755.msg44737592#msg44737592) to (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4961755.msg45137213#msg45137213) provide (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4485070.msg45084902#msg45084902) any kind of information https://www.facebook.com/biogrow.grow.5/posts/252826098897781 http://archive.is/7inrm
I believe you said "done" in PM too. Correct?

hi, sir,  you totaly right, but sometimes you bloked PM too soon.
I don't think I do.
but i miss one post, search worck strange on that forum.
You have all info at one place - in reference link, there is no need to use search button.
then you show mised posts and block PM
That definitely wasn't the reason.
by the way could you return my trust to me if possible?
Again? No.


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: aleksej.rozhkov on September 04, 2018, 01:44:11 PM
Kind time of the day, you put me a negative trust, for the fact that I advertised the company COINTROOPS. I deleted all messages related to this project, remote groups on social networks. I also deleted all messages from the bounty stream. You can see my social networking pages. I apologize for having advertised a bad company and promise not to repeat it again
https://www.facebook.com/aleksej.rozhkov1
https://twitter.com/aleksejrozhkov1


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: TopManagerCrypto on September 04, 2018, 02:50:24 PM
Is there no chance that Retrus will be erased sir?
Again? Nop.

I deleted all posts in that bounty thread and social media (https://www.facebook.com/biogrow.grow.5
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My friends informed about this scam project.
Is this the way how you informed your 5000 friends about ICO who refused (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4961755.msg44737592#msg44737592) to (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4961755.msg45137213#msg45137213) provide (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4485070.msg45084902#msg45084902) any kind of information https://www.facebook.com/biogrow.grow.5/posts/252826098897781 http://archive.is/7inrm
I believe you said "done" in PM too. Correct?

hi, sir,  you totaly right, but sometimes you bloked PM too soon.
I don't think I do.
but i miss one post, search worck strange on that forum.
You have all info at one place - in reference link, there is no need to use search button.
then you show mised posts and block PM
That definitely wasn't the reason.
by the way could you return my trust to me if possible?
Again? No.

Yes Sir, you totaly right. Sorry, maybe I am blind. Thats was the last post in my facebook and I deletet it.
I can inform people with my post https://www.facebook.com/biogrow.grow.5/posts/256659905181067 .
Thank you!


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: marlboroza on September 11, 2018, 10:52:05 PM
I wrote you a private message, but TRAS is still negative
It will remain negative. Now, would you please STOP spamming and bumping this thread every day?


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: Mazzza on September 11, 2018, 11:42:38 PM
I wrote you a private message, but TRAS is still negative
It will remain negative. Now, would you please STOP spamming and bumping this thread every day?

Why???
It's not spam, I can not write personally, that's why I'm here.
How do you decide who is worthy to regain a neutral trust, and who does not?
It's a choice but for the mood or for UserName BTT?
You yourself make us look for new ways to get other accounts BTT.
Everyone can be mistaken. In the case of @, I actually checked 4 pages and did not find your message. It was very far away.
And I do not consider myself a pest, I performed work for which I had to get a fee. I also got a wound, and you poured salt on me.
This is not called teaching - it's called punishing.
I have 2 options. Return the neutral trust or make another BTT.
BUT.......
I have to write here, since you after my report quickly brought me into ignore.


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: marlboroza on September 12, 2018, 02:57:27 PM
It's not spam
Yes it is, I am pretty sure you have received dozen PMs about it - you should read at least one.
I can not write personally, that's why I'm here.
There must be a reason for that  ::)
How do you decide who is worthy to regain a neutral trust, and who does not?
It is written in first post, just in case you missed it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4598987.0
I have to write here, since you after my report quickly brought me into ignore.
Stop lying.



Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: Pangex on September 23, 2018, 01:46:40 PM
Hello!. I wrote to you in PM. But I did not receive any reaction. I deleted all references to REGIHIUM. My message in the subject is (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4852781.msg45535794#msg45535794). Please look at the topic REGIXIUM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4852781.220). Many people have deleted their messages in it, but you did not return the trust. Please make a neutral trust. Thank you.


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: marlboroza on September 25, 2018, 12:00:29 AM
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Have you read topic?
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I think also became a victim
You are not victim, stop twisting facts. You advertised exposed scam. You will probably get your scam tokens for your job.

u gave me negative feedback and my trust settings went to negative.
Well yes I did. You advertised exposed scam...
i removed all post. so please remove your negative feedback.
...second time. I don't trust you.


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: fizik4 on September 25, 2018, 06:57:23 PM
Hello. You painted me red. I did not suspect that the company AiRCRAFT-SCAM. I read the evidence in the branch https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5032935.0 . You were right. Thank you for saving my time. You do good things, exposing scammers. I looked through, the rest of my companies, like everything is clean, the only question is with https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4986481, which, as I understood, it remains to be seen.
1. I deleted my work in social networks
2. I cleaned the branch from my reports


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: Jana Wood on September 26, 2018, 05:45:26 AM
Dear Hero Member Marlboros, I deleted all posts from Tweeter and from the Forum. Very much I apologize for the fact that I did not notice earlier warnings about the SCAM project AIRCRAFT ICO. Correct me trust on the neutral. I REALLY ASK, IT IS SIMPLE FOR ADVERTISING.
Link to your post:
  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4935352.msg46137288#msg46137288


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: Farin Aliev on September 26, 2018, 06:03:59 AM
Marlboros greetings. For the first time I encountered such a problem as advertising an unfair project. I did not even know that the forum did not bury the pages of these terrible projects (AIRCRAFT - THE WAY TO TRAVEL). Please forgive me. I will continue to always look at the quality of the Bounty and read the posts of the administrators or moderators. Please take it away, negative trust, it's a very good account, Full Member. Of course, I delete all posts, deleted everywhere! Save me! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: chelo on September 26, 2018, 06:17:48 AM
hello man,

one more time please recosinder your negative feedback.

i removed all posts and did every thing u ask for removing negative feedback.

one more time i argue u thats was just a mistake and not my will to advertise scam ico.



Title: Re: Negative trust removal guidelines for those advertising fake/scam ICO's
Post by: Ania Alison on September 26, 2018, 06:19:34 AM
Ser, marlborosa, good afternoon. Help me!
I apologize for taking part in SCAM - AIRCRAFT. I always try to behave in the Forum positively and do NOT deceive anyone. All posts and posts in the Tweeter and the Forum deleted. Correct me back trust trust to positive.