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Do you want to know the truth behind why bitcoin prices have fallen? It's because of the Government. I can't talk much right now, but know this: I work high up in one of the larger agencies you may have heard of. The Government is out to destroy bitcoins. I'll expand when I have more time.

<sarcasm> well because you have so many posts and are a reputable source on this forum, I am going to sell all my coins right this second... thank you for the warning </sarcasm>

This is the most amusing thing i've seen in the newbie section for a while

I'm not here to try and get you to sell your coins. Keep them. I have NO interest in bitcoins. I'm just here to tell you about the truth in what's going on behind the scenes, and I thought you would like to be informed.

Then, inform us and be done with it instead of making vague statements!

Inform us all, ol' wise one.

Look, if you're serious, this is the wrong way to go about it. You've ruined your credibility just by making this inflammatory post.

If you want to make a genuine statement, just post the docs and/or primary evidence and that's it.

oh noes, teh authoritayyz are coming!

troll?

Good Trolling is an art form. You really should brush up on your techniques. This doesn't cut it.


Coincidentally, I offer lessons on trolling for BTC. Contact me for rates and schedules.

LOL

Which government? Oh, THE government.

In other news, a secret agency of USA starts working on destroying Bitcoin. Russian state starts mining initiatives to counter. China joins in. A new cold war begins...

Good to see members of the website Something Awful present as well. Hopefully everyone can get the message spread. I will have more coming as soon as I can safely get them from my contact. I apologize beforehand of their poor quality. What I get is copies of copies.

https://i.imgur.com/8Q9tZ.jpg

Can we get some meta data on this image? In addition, somebody inspect that Homeland Security stamp for legitimacy.

 :D operation delta mine... wtf

well beyond being obvious that it was edited in paint ... the amount of information not blacked out is enough to say ... anything however i'm sure since he blacked it out himself Top-Secret could provide us with an unfubared version if he actually wanted to tell us anything

So we have the government AND freemasons against us? Awesome  ;D

super lame. try harder OP.

be convincing (or at least funny) when you troll...this doesnt cut it.  

Weeeee!!!!
Finally a good reason to use a tinfoil hat  without looking a dork!!
(WARNING: tinfoil hats are not recommended nearby static sensitive devices!)
(PS: don't tell anyone, the government might be reading this)
(PS2: People from the government: don't read this)
(PS3: not this, but the rest I've written)

actaully i think this is about the level of intelligence the US government operates at.

"No intelligence at all, just conflict of interests?" :p
Sorry, not trying to troll, just can't resist being sarcastic on this subject...!

Nice that someone has time to photoshop things :) Well anyway who cares.

I'm sorry, but I don't understand why people are calling me a "troll"? I'm just sharing information that I have received about your project. I was under the understanding that your community would like to be informed of this, yes? If not, please tell me now and I will leave.

No... sorry... "to share" is to give something really valuable to everyone.
You gave us pure fumes and vapor, and we're getting high on it!!  ;D ;D ;D
Better, instead of starting to see pink elephants by our selfs, you gave us the pink elephant to enjoy!!
So... we're just getting high on that piece of information and ditched the pink elephant in favor of some pretty colorful rainbows!!!  ;D

Yeah,thanks for the heads up.I never thought a govt would be interested in taking out a rival currency (other than it's own of course).Despite most of that letter being blacked out,it makes reference to Nakamoto (surname of satoshi) which I think pretty much confirms that they are specifically planning to do something about the bitcoin currency (they see it as a threat to their interests,whereas we see it as a liberator including myself)

I do like the idea that I can convert my money into BTC and then literally carry the money on my USB key drive without having physical cash on hand.Beats having to carry a fat wallet everywhere.

I know that even though the OP may sound like a troll,I find this info valuable as to why the currency's value has stayed low for quite sometime.Since most of the document was blacked out,I can only make assumptions as to how they are targetting bitcoins.

Here are my guesses:
1.misinformation campaign (works wonders for anyone opposed to BTC and want it to disappear)
2.hacking
3.An unknown method that affects the currency.

Even thought I find that document useful,I'd still be more convinced if there was an unaltered version availble for all to see.Please find the unaltered version so that we can all see this for ourselves (as some people will understandably still be skeptical after seeing that document).

Government conspiracy to take down bitcoin?

If no, keep mining/using bitcoins.

If yes, keep mining/using bitcoins.

no. no its not.

Image looks like something you'd find on one of those sites where you enter a friend's info and get something to prank them with.

Yeah, um, blacking out of text on documents like these is done with WAY more care and precision than the sloppy job on this thing. Pretty lame.

Lurk moar troll.

US government?

Oh then it's no problem, i'm in europe. Maybe USA will invade europe to stop us from using bitcoins, who know...

No, no, no, you got it all wrong... my country (Portugal) will invade the USA!!! With bows and arrows!!!!!

Now let's make this straight once for all and bring back common sense to this community:

There's no interest in any perfectly well reasoned government to shutdown bitcoins because:
a) If it's not bitcoins its something else, so let it be bitcoins.
b) they would have to shutdown computers and networks all over the world in a joint operation between nations.
c) they would lose the tools to control this market.

If any government wanted bitcoins shutdown, they would already tried to do that, but it would be simply stupid.
If USA wanted, they have computational power behind all this community together, and enough money to make it run, 24h/day generating massive amounts of bitcoins. They would also user every single on-line computer in the world to achieve that task.
We all know what happens in a massive sell off. (ok, there are some inexperienced experts who still don't know anything of nothing, but still write about it...)
I would post some rumor like this also, if I need to buy cheaper bitcoins: but I would post it in the real media, where any news can mold any market - real or virtual - effectively and really generate a massive sell from bitcoin owners, fleeing off the market.

So, stop trying to take down this project and start posting useful information such as what's the relation between Bitcoin market and real market indicators like GDP and CPI.

HAHAHAHA!! Oh F-ing pleez.

So, your some kind of fed? Do tell. I know a lot about the subject. Cause right now I'm guessing your a 12yr. old.

 ;D ;D You must be right! With such attitude, he could only be 12 years old!!!

TROLL FAILLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

God damn. Are the SA goons even trying anymore?

  The USG's secret plan to destroy the bitcoin economy isn't.  Duh.

i like that

Expecting to see that document, completely unsensored, on wikiLeaks any day now...  ::)

Typical, blaming "the Government" without even stating which country you are referring to. Welcome to the Internet, where most people are not from your country.

The seal is legit. But yea not sure if this is for reals.

There are too many things wrong with this document to cover. But here are a few things to consider.
It purports to be an internal memo from homeland security (DHS).
1. So, why would they be involved? Is this a national security issue? No. DHS would not be involved in a BTC investigation.
2. The seal does not match the document. Notice how much darker it is. It was added later.
3. It looks to be  heavily redacted. Redacting is commonly used to remove names of people and operational names.  Here the name of a person (being investigated?) and the name of the operation are among the few things not redacted.  ::)
4. Lastly, does it make any sense for a fed operative to create an account named Top-Secret, then risk his career to illegally  release a document about an active investigation?

It occurs to me that if our OP is lying, he may be exposing himself to some legal liability. Is he impersonating a federal agent? That is a serious offense, as is falsifying or counterfeiting a DHS document. Maybe he should be looked at more closely by his local fusion center. 

Entertaining, but fake.

I think it's funny how this document mentions "the Agency" which is probably a reference to the CIA, which is not part of the Department of Homeland Security.

the only "agency" under the DHS is FEMA, which is not normally in the line of work that you'd think handles the destruction of alternative currencies.

That's exactly what they want you to think...

Probably not a goon.  Goons would likely have found a real Homeland Security document online and manipulated the image.  And I doubt that Homeland Security is in the habit of using typewriters.

I am sorry no one would believe me. I am not "trolling" as you say. I am simply helping get information out that I think everyone should know. I will post the most recent document for you that I have received. If you decide to believe what I know, great. If not, that is fine; as one day the light will come out and you shall see. The documents are not censored by me. These are simply how I receive them.

https://i.imgur.com/wOoug.jpg

while it's obvious you tried harder this time i can still see the halmarks of this being a mspaint blackout job good luck on the next one though

I'm sure the US government loves bitcoins so much easier to ship untracable billions to the local warlord of the day than flying in cargo planes full of $100 bills (yeah no billions of BTC but you understand)

I'm sorry if it appears that way. That is simply how I receive them. There are levels of security that still need to be observed; and they are usually followed before I receive the document.

you're an archive guy or something ? what good are those documents if they get censored like that, better recycle them

my cia contact asked me to post this;

http://i56.tinypic.com/33cqihi.jpg

HSA and CIA documents? You must be well connected. Thank you so much for putting it all on the line, risking livelihood, life, and limb to make sure that us bitcoiners don't get taken down in a raid. It is very noble of you to step up and help us, even though you have no stake in the community. Please, keep your ear to the floor for any news on bitcoin, and bring us the unaltered copies ASAP. I assume because you are a government guy, you know what ASAP means, but just in case, it's 'As Soon As Possible'.

























No way this guy is a goon. He'd have been booted from SA long ago if this is the best he can come up with.

OP, this is pretty pitiful. Like you would risk some fucking treason charges to feed a bunch of tards on the internet secure documents. Take greyhawk up on his offer for lessons. He's one of the pros. He even went to nationals last year.

Lol @ Agent Nakamoto! That explains everything!

Also, we had one from DHS, one from CIA... will the next one be from the Secret Service?

I heard he's planning a move to Thailand

These are awesome. Please keep them coming.!

So now the CIA is involved. Well since the CIA only operates outside of the US, this must be an international investigation.  :o
I see they have done their due diligence and redacted all the verbs and conjunctions. They must have used a typewriter to avoid RF keystroke logging.  Very professional.

The next will be Mossad!!!!!!

I'm sorry no one here believes me. I will leave, but there is one last message I have received that I would like to share with you. It appears to be encrypted, and this is simply how I received it via e-mail from my contact:

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I just received a message too, but OH NOES, ITS STILL ENCRYPTED!!!!

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</banging on keyboard>

Oh no, it's the unbreakable ROT26 encryption!

This is a badly done ARG. You need to get a better writer.

This is really amusing. Literally ROFLMFAO@ Operation Delta-Mine, BruceWagner.

Bahhahaa, this should be in the funny pages of the news paper.

What r you talking about there bud?

Did you actually look at the sheet? I guess not? Well take another look again.
Operation Delta-Mine and Bruce Wagner is in it. This is what I was laughing at. This is comedy at its finest.
https://i.imgur.com/8Q9tZ.jpg

wow...i totally thought you were just a troll that showed up with that name during the whole bruce debacle. I am glad to have the clarification.

aww. don't go top-secret. These are kinda fun. and I think you might be fun to have around.

and P.S.  bwagner, I also thought you were just being mean to Bruce.

Are you fucking serious?

Is decypher even a word?

Having dealt with many, many government documents over the years, I recognized these instantly as fakes. And fairly bad fakes at that. Let no one else be fooled.

I am surprised that nobody has taken the time to post this yet. Since it is obvious which words were added and which were in the original photo (by context and by font mismatch), it was trivial to dig up the original document. It was a promotional poster from ComicCon 2007 made to look like some sort of government document. Here is a version I ripped from some guys flickr page:

http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/4159/topsecretumbra.jpg

#Imaynothavethefactstobackthisup but the CIA created bitcoin to distract the internet dissidents from Sarah Palin.

Sarah Palin, who herself is cover for Abu Ghraib, 9/11, Oklahoma City, chemtrails, aliens, saquatch resurgence and batboy.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1T9YXyM1Bfw/SrihDmjL-dI/AAAAAAAADo8/6uQPkxbPRNM/s400/US+ARMY+-+UFO+Official+Manual_Page_25.jpg

 ::)


They are watching us.
My skull implant whispers strange sounds to my head.
oh no. Someone is here!
Must escape... The window... I will activate my antigravity boots.
7th floor.
Must run as soon as I hit the ground!

It would be nice if the government knows about bitcoins. We need more PR.

OMG!!!
MY THINFOIL HAT ISN'T WORKING!!!
I GOT NOTIFIED BY CI-FB-KG-Mos!
Check it out!!!
http://www.images-graphics-pics.com/signs/sign-generator/simple.aspx?color=black&color2=&watermark=&gradient=&spacing=&x=62&y=62&w=220&h=315&move=0&move2=&rotate=&fontsize=11&text=GOVT+TOP+SECRET+PAGES%0D%0A%0D%0AIn+operation+SpeedFart+we+concluded+that+bitcoins+are+useless+to+buy+drugs%2C+so%2C+be+happy+mining+all+around%2E%0D%0AWe+also+have+the+location+of+user+Top+Secret+and+are+arresting+him+for+impersonating+federal+authorities%2E&font=typewrtr&allow=7608&pic=Top-Secret-Documents&align=left&align2=Middle&transparency=255