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Title: Change Mobile Phones with Wallets
Post by: worldtraveller321 on July 07, 2018, 06:24:57 PM
Just a question I have a few wallets on my phone. like Coinomi. etc.
What I am thinking is getting a new phone.
What should I do with my wallets? how would I transfer them over?
if i delete the app on present phone, do i loose everything?
or just getting the app download on new phone, i get retrieve everything with my login information from Coinomi? thanks


Title: Re: Change Mobile Phones with Wallets
Post by: RGBKey on July 07, 2018, 06:35:45 PM
Looks like with Coinomi you need to export your secret seed. I would imagine the other apps have a similar process. If you delete the app before you export this seed, you will lose your money.

You should always have backups of your wallets, even your phone wallets. That backup is the same information you need to access the same wallet on another phone. Search for the name of your wallet and "backup" or "restore" to find specific procedures.


Title: Re: Change Mobile Phones with Wallets
Post by: hase0278 on July 08, 2018, 12:59:54 PM
You can try to just export the seeds of those wallets on your phone as adviced by someone above, but if you want to permanently remove the risk of getting your private keys leaked from unwanted people(if you plan to throw away or sell your old mobile phone after moving your funds), You should just transfer your funds out of your wallets from your old phone to the wallets you will create on your new phone.


Title: Re: Change Mobile Phones with Wallets
Post by: Lakai01 on July 09, 2018, 05:08:38 PM
Just export your private seed (like you should initially when you installed the app and generated the wallet). If you don't have your private seed written down in a save place DO IT IMMEDIATELY. If you drop your phone or your phone gets stolen you lose everything ...


Title: Re: Change Mobile Phones with Wallets
Post by: Hamy1995 on July 11, 2018, 11:48:41 AM
Đó là an absolute thật. I'll will be accounting any one by one button. I will not be too many money on person.


Title: Re: Change Mobile Phones with Wallets
Post by: NeuroticFish on July 11, 2018, 12:48:34 PM
You should get the seeds (private keys?) for all the old wallets for 2 reasons:
1. Transferring funds from one address to another usually costs money (even 1 cent is money).
2. You should also keep those seeds in a safe place (on a paper, offline, for example), since if you lose your phone or it gets bricked for whatever reason, you'll also lose your coins.

PS. You should also re-create and backup the 2FA seeds if you have 2FA enabled anywhere.


Title: Re: Change Mobile Phones with Wallets
Post by: btcdevil on July 11, 2018, 12:56:00 PM
Very simple method: If you have the Seed phrase with you then no problem as you can install a new copy of wallet in your new mobile phone and after installation it will ask to enter old seed key or generate new one, just copy your old seed phrase and here your old wallet is installed in your new mobile phone. But if their is no seed key then you have to copy the private key of the wallet and then install it in new mobile when it will ask you after you install new copy of that wallet in your new mobile phone. But take care that first you proceed all setup step by step and after you are fully sure that your all wallets are loaded in your new mobile phone after that you can format your old mobile phone as if you are selling or trying to dispose it then other should not be able to get your wallet so that you should not be in loss of theft.


Title: Re: Change Mobile Phones with Wallets
Post by: Mhd-Bobbi on July 12, 2018, 11:27:52 AM
Just a question I have a few wallets on my phone. like Coinomi. etc.
What I am thinking is getting a new phone.
What should I do with my wallets? how would I transfer them over?
if i delete the app on present phone, do i loose everything?
or just getting the app download on new phone, i get retrieve everything with my login information from Coinomi? thanks
You must have backup data, if you install the latest software. But if you have not made a backup then you will lose all the contents of your wallet. My suggestion You must have a backup provided by the wallet.


Title: Re: Change Mobile Phones with Wallets
Post by: Findingnemo on July 12, 2018, 04:01:55 PM
Just a question I have a few wallets on my phone. like Coinomi. etc.
What I am thinking is getting a new phone.
What should I do with my wallets? how would I transfer them over?
if i delete the app on present phone, do i loose everything?
or just getting the app download on new phone, i get retrieve everything with my login information from Coinomi? thanks
You have two options,if you want to download the coinomi wallet into new phone then you can import them by using the private seeds which you were given by at the time of creation of the old existing wallet on your old mobile then all your coins will be seen on new mobile too,or you don't have that private seed but you still have access to your coinomi wallet on old mobile then you can transfer all your coins to the new wallet's addresses respectively for each coin you were holding.


Title: Re: Change Mobile Phones with Wallets
Post by: dunfida on July 12, 2018, 11:32:40 PM
You should get the seeds (private keys?) for all the old wallets for 2 reasons:
1. Transferring funds from one address to another usually costs money (even 1 cent is money).
2. You should also keep those seeds in a safe place (on a paper, offline, for example), since if you lose your phone or it gets bricked for whatever reason, you'll also lose your coins.

PS. You should also re-create and backup the 2FA seeds if you have 2FA enabled anywhere.
Option 1 do give out less hassle if you dont like into importing things which you would basically sent out your coins into your new phones ICONOMI wallet yet you had mentioned you would purchase a new one and it would just cost small fee and less hassle because just a few clicks then you are good to go.
Most common action is to import seeds or backup files which is a basic thing on most wallet have that kind of thing where as a user you should really be concern on how to keep those informations safe incase of recovery or accessing your wallet.


Title: Re: Change Mobile Phones with Wallets
Post by: NeuroticFish on July 13, 2018, 05:29:42 AM
Option 1 do give out less hassle if you dont like into importing things which you would basically sent out your coins into your new phones ICONOMI wallet yet you had mentioned you would purchase a new one and it would just cost small fee and less hassle because just a few clicks then you are good to go.

If OP is asking these questions then it's almost sure he doesn't have a proper backup. And this means that even if it's a little more hassle, doing a proper backup and also a restore, so he can see the backup was correct is the best way to go. And after doing these steps he will also have the wallet on the new phone.


Title: Re: Change Mobile Phones with Wallets
Post by: bob123 on July 14, 2018, 05:05:37 PM
And this means that even if it's a little more hassle, doing a proper backup and also a restore, so he can see the backup was correct is the best way to go. And after doing these steps he will also have the wallet on the new phone.

The problem with this is that information stay remained on the old phone.
Depending on the amount which is (or in future will be) stored inside this wallet (generated by this seed), it might be very foolish to resell  / give the phone away.
It might be possible (under some circumstances) that enough information can be retrieved from the old phone (even with a factory reset) to regenerate the seed which is being used.

The 'cleaner' alternative would definitely be to use a new seed.



Title: Re: Change Mobile Phones with Wallets
Post by: himtater87 on July 18, 2018, 09:42:17 AM
Just a question I have a few wallets on my phone. like Coinomi. etc.
What I am thinking is getting a new phone.
What should I do with my wallets? how would I transfer them over?
if i delete the app on present phone, do i loose everything?
or just getting the app download on new phone, i get retrieve everything with my login information from Coinomi? thanks
I don't have any good idea for you as far as i know your data will remain on your phone you can lose your wallet by restarting your device. I advice you to make a backup of your phone.


Title: Re: Change Mobile Phones with Wallets
Post by: maldini on July 18, 2018, 08:43:03 PM
you just have to back up your wallet, usually all wallets have files that can be reserved like MEW, if it is not there try to find your wallet privacy key and save well, after that you can erase your wallet.


Title: Re: Change Mobile Phones with Wallets
Post by: harizen on July 18, 2018, 09:16:56 PM
And this means that even if it's a little more hassle, doing a proper backup and also a restore, so he can see the backup was correct is the best way to go. And after doing these steps he will also have the wallet on the new phone.

The problem with this is that information stay remained on the old phone.
Depending on the amount which is (or in future will be) stored inside this wallet (generated by this seed), it might be very foolish to resell  / give the phone away.
It might be possible (under some circumstances) that enough information can be retrieved from the old phone (even with a factory reset) to regenerate the seed which is being used.

The 'cleaner' alternative would definitely be to use a new seed.



It's not possible to know the seeds even if you look at all manifest files on the Coinomi Android app. And I doubt someone will look into that as they are not aware of the phone's past. Even using rooted apps will not do and I doubt there's a possible app for that.

Coinomi once uninstalled and reinstalled will definitely asked for keys upon opening. OP just need to remember the wallet phrase and that's it. No hassle. Been doing that lots of times already.


Title: Re: Change Mobile Phones with Wallets
Post by: Nila soru on July 19, 2018, 06:10:19 AM
Just a question I have a few wallets on my phone. like Coinomi. etc.
What I am thinking is getting a new phone.
What should I do with my wallets? how would I transfer them over?
if i delete the app on present phone, do i loose everything?
or just getting the app download on new phone, i get retrieve everything with my login information from Coinomi? thanks
Better to make a backup of your application and then you can move your data with sd card i don't know if this trick can work or not check this link hope it can helps you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1aBHPGCwr4.


Title: Re: Change Mobile Phones with Wallets
Post by: nc50lc on July 19, 2018, 02:16:37 PM
Better to make a backup of your application and then you can move your data with sd card i don't know if this trick can work or not check this link hope it can helps you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1aBHPGCwr4.
Moving the data to the SD card isn't a way to move the app's sensitive data (like passwords or saves for games) at all.
It just moves the app's resources. In an instance that the SD card was removed, most apps will keep the user's data in the internal data storage and when the user reinstall the app, his data may still be intact.

Even using rooted apps will not do and I doubt there's a possible app for that.
Yes it's far fetched but still possible if the wallet app isn't password/passphrase protected. (can the user create an unencrypted coinomi wallet?)
But if a rooted phone with a loaded wallet was stolen, there is a great chance for the thief to get the coin by flashing a customized recovery mode that's readily available for geeky users, still, an encrypted wallet will be a challenge/impossible to steal.
Agreed, a simple reset factory settings (wipe user data) is safe enough with regards to Coinomy and other encrypted mobile wallets.

@worldtraveller321 In addition to the multiple replies of restoring via SEED, if in case your phone was rooted,
you can use Titanium Backup or any related superuser backup app which can backup the whole app including the app data from the root directory (app settings, accounts and everything) then restore it in a different (also) rooted android phone.


Title: Re: Change Mobile Phones with Wallets
Post by: RGBKey on July 19, 2018, 09:36:50 PM
Better to make a backup of your application and then you can move your data with sd card i don't know if this trick can work or not check this link hope it can helps you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1aBHPGCwr4.
Moving the data to the SD card isn't a way to move the app's sensitive data (like passwords or saves for games) at all.
It just moves the app's resources. In an instance that the SD card was removed, most apps will keep the user's data in the internal data storage and when the user reinstall the app, his data may still be intact.

Even using rooted apps will not do and I doubt there's a possible app for that.
Yes it's far fetched but still possible if the wallet app isn't password/passphrase protected. (can the user create an unencrypted coinomi wallet?)
But if a rooted phone with a loaded wallet was stolen, there is a great chance for the thief to get the coin by flashing a customized recovery mode that's readily available for geeky users, still, an encrypted wallet will be a challenge/impossible to steal.
Agreed, a simple reset factory settings (wipe user data) is safe enough with regards to Coinomy and other encrypted mobile wallets.

@worldtraveller321 In addition to the multiple replies of restoring via SEED, if in case your phone was rooted,
you can use Titanium Backup or any related superuser backup app which can backup the whole app including the app data from the root directory (app settings, accounts and everything) then restore it in a different (also) rooted android phone.

How many people do you actually know with rooted phones? And not to label OP, but I don't see someone that can root their phone also asking questions about how to move their wallets between phones


Title: Re: Change Mobile Phones with Wallets
Post by: ClockBug on July 19, 2018, 10:14:59 PM
Just export your private seed (like you should initially when you installed the app and generated the wallet). If you don't have your private seed written down in a save place DO IT IMMEDIATELY. If you drop your phone or your phone gets stolen you lose everything ...

You can shout to the rooftops and people will still fail at that simple task...
But believe me, they are loud whinners when their phone breaks or gets stolen...
You cant help stupid


Title: Re: Change Mobile Phones with Wallets
Post by: nc50lc on July 20, 2018, 07:11:34 AM
How many people do you actually know with rooted phones? And not to label OP, but I don't see someone that can root their phone also asking questions about how to move their wallets between phones
ugh, myself, my brother an everyone in my group.

The number may be little compared to the number of android phones but that's why I've included "in case your phone was rooted".
And in OP's perspective (a newbie in cryptocurrency) moving a wallet that uses a unventured money requires a query to the 1st-hand users.

Overall, your reply isn't much of a subject for discussion.


Title: Re: Change Mobile Phones with Wallets
Post by: Mandarava on July 20, 2018, 11:28:34 AM
In order not to have problems in the event of losing a phone with purses, you should always make backup purses. It is best to save all the data on paper, if it's a QR code, or a recovery seed. And store these spare passwords in a safe place. Or as an option - you can buy a second phone and have duplicates of their applications on the second phone.


Title: Re: Change Mobile Phones with Wallets
Post by: worldtraveller321 on July 23, 2018, 01:45:36 PM
would it be better for me to just transfer all coins to my account on an exchange or a desktop wallet, and that way all funds are off my phone?


Title: Re: Change Mobile Phones with Wallets
Post by: nc50lc on July 24, 2018, 07:54:56 AM
would it be better for me to just transfer all coins to my account on an exchange or a desktop wallet, and that way all funds are off my phone?
Yes, that's fine, but do not send it to any exchange except if you're planning to buy another digital currency.
The current recommended transaction fee (based on Electrum's recommendation via mempool) is 10sat/b.
Sending them to another wallet/address isn't going to be expensive unless you have 100+ inputs.


Title: Re: Change Mobile Phones with Wallets
Post by: vert12020 on July 27, 2018, 11:07:38 PM
You just have to back up your wallet, usually all wallets have files that can be reserved like MEW!


Title: Re: Change Mobile Phones with Wallets
Post by: genuin on July 28, 2018, 09:35:58 AM
you can save your data in the form of bat files that you can sync with the applications contained in your new phone. Can also through private key connected in the system, you should not forget it. I strongly recommend that every time you create a wallet of any kind you should back up the data so as not to lose in the next day


Title: Re: Change Mobile Phones with Wallets
Post by: maminelly on July 28, 2018, 02:35:09 PM
our wallet is we installed in our new mobile phone if their is no seed key then we have to copy the private key of the wallet and then install it in new mobile after we install,new copy of that wallet in our new mobile phone and take care that we proceed setup step by step and after we are fully sure that all wallets are loaded in our new mobile phone after that we can format old mobile phone as we are selling or trying to dispose it then other should not be able to get our wallet should not be in loss....


Title: Re: Change Mobile Phones with Wallets
Post by: ddd4367a on August 02, 2018, 07:54:43 AM
Coinomi is a source code with a private key that is stored entirely on the device. Now, only support on android and ios is currently growing. Your personal keys never leave your device, strong encryption and encryption ensure that your funds will remain secure under your ultimate control, allowing you to keep everything possible. Access and a passphrase you must back up once and for all


Title: Re: Change Mobile Phones with Wallets
Post by: wqiwi212jsjs@jj on August 02, 2018, 08:01:49 AM
If you have an e-wallet like Coinomi you can easily use the two operating systems are Android and IOS. This application is completely secure. It helps to exchange cryptocurrency quickly and conveniently.