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Title: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: spain cool on July 08, 2018, 04:52:06 PM
SCAM PROJECT, BE AWARE!
BOUNTY (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4638889.0) | WEBSITE (https://yaahub.com/) |
TELEGRAM (https://t.me/yaahubexchange) | FACEBOOK (https://www.facebook.com/yaahub) | TWITTER (https://twitter.com/ExchangeYaahub) | YOUTUBE (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQsZvWziiDAUAFGOBuJwTKw) | ANN (http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4625456.0)

YAAHUB EXCHANGE

YAAHUB is a Peer to Peer Bitcoin marketplace connecting buyers with sellers. Simply select your preferred payment method and type in how many bitcoins you need. Buying bitcoin directly from other people makes it even simpler. Just sign up and buy right away. You pay sellers directly from your personal accounts. YAAHUB will be a part of an Institution which will assure that there is no scam, speculation, and will be used for Real trading based on proper Demand and Supply.

https://i.imgur.com/Vi7VmCz.jpg (https://yaahub.com/)
https://i.imgur.com/HjXdhXq.jpg (https://yaahub.com/)
https://i.imgur.com/0ZdOTBh.jpg (https://yaahub.com/)
https://i.imgur.com/2m8GOQ5.jpg (https://yaahub.com/)

PRESS RELEASE LINKS:
★ABNEWSWIRE:
http://www.abnewswire.com/pressreleases/yaahub-is-a-peer-to-peer-crypto-marketplace-connecting-buyers-with-sellersjust-sign-up-and-trade-right-away_232579.html
★DIGITAL JOURNAL:
http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/3828456
★FINANCE NEWS WORLD:
http://www.financenewsworld.com/story/112913/yaahub-is-a-peer-to-peer-crypto-marketplace-connecting-buyers-with-sellersjust-sign-up-and-trade-right-away.html
★THE TELEGRAPH:
http://markets.financialcontent.com/stocks/news/read/36511155
★WALL STREET SELECT:
http://investor.wallstreetselect.com/wss/news/read/36511155/

Media Contact:
★Email: support@yaahub.com
★Website: https://www.yaahub.com
★Twitter: https://twitter.com/ExchangeYaahub
★Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/yaahub
★Skype: yaahub_support
★Telegram: @yaahubexchange
★Bitcointalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4625456.0
★Quora: https://yaahubexchange.quora.com/
★Medium: https://medium.com/@yaahubexchange
BOUNTY (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4638889.0) | WEBSITE (https://yaahub.com/) | TELEGRAM (https://t.me/yaahubexchange) | FACEBOOK (https://www.facebook.com/yaahub) | TWITTER (https://twitter.com/ExchangeYaahub) | YOUTUBE (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQsZvWziiDAUAFGOBuJwTKw) | ANN (http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4625456.0)


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: spain cool on July 08, 2018, 04:54:14 PM
reserved for future update
This is the new thread from the project and this old ann thread will no longer be used: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4523691.0


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: spain cool on July 10, 2018, 08:51:42 PM
Greetings to our new fresh Airdrop & Bounty link:
  • Bounty: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4638889.0
  • Airdrop: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4638908.0


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: Erik_Smuel on July 11, 2018, 01:58:49 AM
Where is the whitepaper?


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: Hellmouth42 on July 13, 2018, 03:13:59 AM
There is no WP
There is no team..
Your press release: 5 time the SAME article (written by you, I suppose) in 5 differents "media"


"YAAHUB Exchange is now and one of the biggest cryptocurrency exchanges in the world.
Our mission is to provide the fastest, cheapest, easiest, and most secure exchange services to our valuable customers."


Wahou, a long way to go...

And what about "Zabcoin" (your domain name http://www.yaahub.com/ is registered with this other domain)
An other "exchange"...

"Note: We had to remove our address and phone number because of some unnecessary abusing due to competition."

lol

Not so difficult to find your adress however:
https://hype.news/yaahub-exchange/n-1532592469/home

364 E Main Street , Suite 1010, Middletown ,DE, 19709, U.S.A

At this adress, we can find this:
https://property.nrccoin.com/ linked to the website https://www.nrccoin.com/ (under construction since...2017 ?)

The Ann thread of NRCCoin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2981719.0
The Bounty thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4412642.msg39278512#msg39278512

Some informations here: https://coinjournal.net/pr-release/nrcc-crypto-commerce/

These projects are going in all directions!

Common points: no WP or too light, no team, rented premises in hotel rooms...
Fakes press articles
I'm really scared for the blockchain sector when I see all this!




Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: Papsie on July 13, 2018, 03:24:51 AM
So based on my understanding, it is just like alibaba, lazada etc which offers online buying and selling. Yeah this kind of project really helps a lot to both sides of the buyers and sellers but I think there are already a lot of project which have the same idea.


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: spain cool alt on July 13, 2018, 05:12:54 PM
My main account has been banned for on altcoin forum giveaway so I'm here to announce you that from this account I will be publishing the new updates for the project!


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: miningnew on July 13, 2018, 05:22:35 PM
Wow, that message is so reassuring!

Are you conscious guy, that everything in your project smells bad

Start by explaining the reasons for your banishment?


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: Tramirostronix on July 13, 2018, 07:58:58 PM
My main account has been banned for on altcoin forum giveaway so I'm here to announce you that from this account I will be publishing the new updates for the project!

Yes explain please because I don't understand too. It's because of the airdrop ? Or because of something else ?


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: Ipupin on July 16, 2018, 05:16:14 AM
YAAHUB is a Bitcoin Peer to Peer market that connects buyers with sellers. Just select your preferred payment method and type in how much bitcoin you need. Buying bitcoins directly from others makes it simpler.


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: miningnew on July 16, 2018, 05:19:15 AM
Quote
YAAHUB is a Bitcoin Peer to Peer market that connects buyers with sellers. Just select your preferred payment method and type in how much bitcoin you need. Buying bitcoins directly from others makes it simpler.

Please explain the interest of this comment in the context ?
Bot ?


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: Ipupin on July 18, 2018, 08:17:27 AM
Yaahub Exchange service
Once you start trading, an experienced salesperson will walk you through the process in one-on-one live chat.
Great subject, this is not on another platform.


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: trns.txt on July 18, 2018, 08:35:21 AM
Another new cryptocurrency Exchange. I like your goal to be the world largest and most trusted cryptocurrency trading platform at future. It seems very ambitious and brave, but for me they are needed to reach the highest achievement.  :) 


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: tunnel on July 18, 2018, 08:41:17 AM
Seems like a very wealthy project. Will there be any local restrictions for participation?


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: djuragan on July 18, 2018, 09:30:23 AM
It could be the next alternative exchange, the offer of security, something that every trader always seek.
I hope there will be a lot of coins that will be listed in this exchange with high volume.


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: CryptoTamer on July 18, 2018, 10:19:04 AM
BOUNTY (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4638889.0) | WEBSITE (https://yaahub.com/) | TELEGRAM (https://t.me/yaahubexchange) | FACEBOOK (https://www.facebook.com/yaahub) | TWITTER (https://twitter.com/ExchangeYaahub) | YOUTUBE (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQsZvWziiDAUAFGOBuJwTKw) | ANN (http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4625456.0)

YAAHUB EXCHANGE

YAAHUB is a Peer to Peer Bitcoin marketplace connecting buyers with sellers. Simply select your preferred payment method and type in how many bitcoins you need. Buying bitcoin directly from other people makes it even simpler. Just sign up and buy right away. You pay sellers directly from your personal accounts. YAAHUB will be a part of an Institution which will assure that there is no scam, speculation, and will be used for Real trading based on proper Demand and Supply.

https://i.imgur.com/Vi7VmCz.jpg (https://yaahub.com/)
https://i.imgur.com/HjXdhXq.jpg (https://yaahub.com/)
https://i.imgur.com/0ZdOTBh.jpg (https://yaahub.com/)
https://i.imgur.com/2m8GOQ5.jpg (https://yaahub.com/)

PRESS RELEASE LINKS:
★ABNEWSWIRE:
http://www.abnewswire.com/pressreleases/yaahub-is-a-peer-to-peer-crypto-marketplace-connecting-buyers-with-sellersjust-sign-up-and-trade-right-away_232579.html
★DIGITAL JOURNAL:
http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/3828456
★FINANCE NEWS WORLD:
http://www.financenewsworld.com/story/112913/yaahub-is-a-peer-to-peer-crypto-marketplace-connecting-buyers-with-sellersjust-sign-up-and-trade-right-away.html
★THE TELEGRAPH:
http://markets.financialcontent.com/stocks/news/read/36511155
★WALL STREET SELECT:
http://investor.wallstreetselect.com/wss/news/read/36511155/

Media Contact:
★Email: support@yaahub.com
★Website: https://www.yaahub.com
★Twitter: https://twitter.com/ExchangeYaahub
★Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/yaahub
★Skype: yaahub_support
★Telegram: @yaahubexchange
★Bitcointalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4625456.0
★Quora: https://yaahubexchange.quora.com/
★Medium: https://medium.com/@yaahubexchange
BOUNTY (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4638889.0) | WEBSITE (https://yaahub.com/) | TELEGRAM (https://t.me/yaahubexchange) | FACEBOOK (https://www.facebook.com/yaahub) | TWITTER (https://twitter.com/ExchangeYaahub) | YOUTUBE (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQsZvWziiDAUAFGOBuJwTKw) | ANN (http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4625456.0)

The subject of your thread is Announcement of Yahuub ICO but, Why I don't see any information about your ICO in this thread?

I also didn't find any information about ICO on your site, at least you should provide that information on your site if your project really wants to raise funds through ICO


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: spain cool alt on July 18, 2018, 02:34:57 PM
Quote
YAAHUB is a Bitcoin Peer to Peer market that connects buyers with sellers. Just select your preferred payment method and type in how much bitcoin you need. Buying bitcoins directly from others makes it simpler.

Please explain the interest of this comment in the context ?
Bot ?
A copy-paste bot, exactly. You can report this to Meta.  :-\

My main account has been banned for on altcoin forum giveaway so I'm here to announce you that from this account I will be publishing the new updates for the project!

Yes explain please because I don't understand too. It's because of the airdrop ? Or because of something else ?
On altcoin forum giveaway is prohibited, though there are so many people abuse it these days.

snip

The subject of your thread is Announcement of Yahuub ICO but, Why I don't see any information about your ICO in this thread?

I also didn't find any information about ICO on your site, at least you should provide that information on your site if your project really wants to raise funds through ICO
The project will do have an ICO, but the team has not decided the ICO yet, soon.


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: TopTort777 on July 20, 2018, 06:53:56 AM
I will try to ask question here, since bounty thread moderator either is silent, either haven't seen my question.

There is a problem with math. It is said that:

"A total of 2.000.000 (~2.000.000 USD) of NOOR tokens are allocated for this bounty & airdrop campaign.

Bounty Allocation: 500.000 of NOOR tokens are allocated for the airdrop campaign.
Twitter Campaign: 30%. (~150.000)
Facebook Campaign: 30%. (~150.000)
Blog/Article Campaign: 20%. (~100.000)
Telegram Campaign: 20%. (~100.000)"



If 500k goes to airdrop, 150k+150k+100k+100k is 500k tokens more. Which makes 1.000.000 total for bounty
Where does announced 1.000.000 goes then ?


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: omar hashim on July 23, 2018, 05:13:11 PM
YAAHUB is a Peer to Peer Bitcoin marketplace connecting buyers with sellers. Simply select your preferred payment method and type in how many bitcoins you need. Buying bitcoin directly from other people makes it even simpler.


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: TwinBird23 on July 25, 2018, 09:45:29 AM
YAHAHUB provides the best protection. A buyer is 100% protected. this platform verifies and checks all sellers for security. This platform prioritizes user satisfaction.


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: TopTort777 on July 28, 2018, 08:46:04 AM
There is no WP
There is no team..
Your press release: 5 time the SAME article (written by you, I suppose) in 5 differents "media"


"YAAHUB Exchange is now and one of the biggest cryptocurrency exchanges in the world.
Our mission is to provide the fastest, cheapest, easiest, and most secure exchange services to our valuable customers."


Wahou, a long way to go...

And what about "Zabcoin" (your domain name http://www.yaahub.com/ is registered with this other domain)
An other "exchange"...

"Note: We had to remove our address and phone number because of some unnecessary abusing due to competition."

lol

Not so difficult to find your adress however:
https://hype.news/yaahub-exchange/n-1532592469/home

364 E Main Street , Suite 1010, Middletown ,DE, 19709, U.S.A

At this adress, we can find this:
https://property.nrccoin.com/ linked to the website https://www.nrccoin.com/ (under construction since...2017 ?)

The Ann thread of NRCCoin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2981719.0
The Bounty thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4412642.msg39278512#msg39278512

Some informations here: https://coinjournal.net/pr-release/nrcc-crypto-commerce/

These projects are going in all directions!

Common points: no WP or too light, no team, rented premises in hotel rooms...
Fakes press articles
I'm really scared for the blockchain sector when I see all this!




Nice investigation. In bounty there are also problems with bounty math:

"A total of 2.000.000 (~2.000.000 USD) of NOOR tokens are allocated for this bounty & airdrop campaign.

Bounty Allocation: 500.000 of NOOR tokens are allocated for the airdrop campaign.
Twitter Campaign: 30%. (~150.000)
Facebook Campaign: 30%. (~150.000)
Blog/Article Campaign: 20%. (~100.000)
Telegram Campaign: 20%. (~100.000)"


If 500k goes to airdrop, 150k+150k+100k+100k is 500k tokens more. Which makes 1.000.000 total for bounty
Where does announced 1.000.000 goes then ?

Bounty moderator is silent since July 19. Spreadsheets are not filled with data...

Looks like a scam project.


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: Jondum on August 01, 2018, 08:17:47 AM
YAAHUB will connect buyers with sellers in the bitcoin market on P2P. Users can buy bitcoins directly from others and pay directly from a user's personal account.


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: sacskate on August 01, 2018, 08:25:02 AM
YAAHUB is a Peer to Peer Bitcoin marketplace connecting buyers with sellers. Simply select your preferred payment method and type in how many bitcoins you need. Buying bitcoin directly from other people makes it even simpler.
you mean P2P , as i think it is like a more organized and automated localbitcoins.com version
but do u check the selling orders manually


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: MakNoz on August 08, 2018, 03:03:59 AM
YAAHUB will connect buyers with sellers in the bitcoin market on P2P. Users can buy bitcoins directly from others and pay directly from a user's personal account.

transactions carried out by users, sales or purchases 100% protected. Yaahub verifies and checks all of our sellers for security.


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: Gabriellla on August 08, 2018, 12:27:04 PM
excellent and exciting project, i hope the team will continue to intensively promote this project so that more will be known and the project will be more developed and successful.


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: Ipupin on August 15, 2018, 09:01:42 AM
excellent and exciting project, i hope the team will continue to intensively promote this project so that more will be known and the project will be more developed and successful.


yes. Yaahub is developing and will be successful.
Trading transactions on the Yaahub platform are quite easy, users simply choose the payment method and type in how much Bitcoin is needed. The transaction is directly from other users.
simple and easy, because Yaahub is a Peer to Peer Bitcoin market that connects sellers and buyers.


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: Kutaxi on August 22, 2018, 08:50:46 AM
I expect this project matchs a great advance! Engaging idea, excellence idea, unbiased business!


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: JungleOnion on August 26, 2018, 05:09:05 PM
I expect this project matchs a great advance! Engaging idea, excellence idea, unbiased business!


excellent and exciting project, i hope the team will continue to intensively promote this project so that more will be known and the project will be more developed and successful.


yes. Yaahub is developing and will be successful.
Trading transactions on the Yaahub platform are quite easy, users simply choose the payment method and type in how much Bitcoin is needed. The transaction is directly from other users.
simple and easy, because Yaahub is a Peer to Peer Bitcoin market that connects sellers and buyers.

excellent and exciting project, i hope the team will continue to intensively promote this project so that more will be known and the project will be more developed and successful.


ALL Jr.Members commenting positive about a project that says in bold, in caps, and in red...

SCAM PROJECT.


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: TopTort777 on August 28, 2018, 06:03:40 AM
Even the bounty and ANN moderator comfirmed, that this project is SCAM, but people still continue to promote it and post reports.

Why do that ? Are they bots ?


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: bachduongkute on August 28, 2018, 07:48:23 AM
This project looking promising because this is backed by very professional, this would very successful ICO, good luck dev team


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: Eulalila on August 28, 2018, 08:54:26 AM
ironic how an ICO is needed for a project that will deal with ICOs


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: pacamobradillo on August 28, 2018, 11:21:50 AM
Why this word showing on the top : SCAM PROJECT, BE AWARE! ?
Is this project scammed? is it true or this is a marketing procedure to get attention?


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: TopTort777 on August 29, 2018, 06:22:41 AM
Why this word showing on the top : SCAM PROJECT, BE AWARE! ?
Is this project scammed? is it true or this is a marketing procedure to get attention?

Read post #21 in this topic. Strange team with address plus strange bounty pull distribution.


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: XLG918 on September 05, 2018, 07:59:38 AM
Hello
Who is on the team, what are their backgrounds & credentials, and do they have any public track records? Thanks.


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO]💱 Yaahub Exchange - A Peer to Peer Bitcoin Marketplace 💱
Post by: profall on September 05, 2018, 09:13:05 AM
There is no WP
There is no team..
Your press release: 5 time the SAME article (written by you, I suppose) in 5 differents "media"


"YAAHUB Exchange is now and one of the biggest cryptocurrency exchanges in the world.
Our mission is to provide the fastest, cheapest, easiest, and most secure exchange services to our valuable customers."


Wahou, a long way to go...

And what about "Zabcoin" (your domain name http://www.yaahub.com/ is registered with this other domain)
An other "exchange"...

"Note: We had to remove our address and phone number because of some unnecessary abusing due to competition."

lol

Not so difficult to find your adress however:
https://hype.news/yaahub-exchange/n-1532592469/home

364 E Main Street , Suite 1010, Middletown ,DE, 19709, U.S.A

At this adress, we can find this:
https://property.nrccoin.com/ linked to the website https://www.nrccoin.com/ (under construction since...2017 ?)

The Ann thread of NRCCoin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2981719.0
The Bounty thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4412642.msg39278512#msg39278512

Some informations here: https://coinjournal.net/pr-release/nrcc-crypto-commerce/

These projects are going in all directions!

Common points: no WP or too light, no team, rented premises in hotel rooms...
Fakes press articles
I'm really scared for the blockchain sector when I see all this!




Nice investigation. In bounty there are also problems with bounty math:

"A total of 2.000.000 (~2.000.000 USD) of NOOR tokens are allocated for this bounty & airdrop campaign.

Bounty Allocation: 500.000 of NOOR tokens are allocated for the airdrop campaign.
Twitter Campaign: 30%. (~150.000)
Facebook Campaign: 30%. (~150.000)
Blog/Article Campaign: 20%. (~100.000)
Telegram Campaign: 20%. (~100.000)"


If 500k goes to airdrop, 150k+150k+100k+100k is 500k tokens more. Which makes 1.000.000 total for bounty
Where does announced 1.000.000 goes then ?

Bounty moderator is silent since July 19. Spreadsheets are not filled with data...

Looks like a scam project.
I agree with you, this project look like a scam.
Today, have so many project scam, and impact, they are lazy scammer. When they post an announcement with a poor quality.