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Title: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: Opsamk on February 13, 2014, 09:28:51 AM
I noticed that in times of crash, there are no optimists around preaching "oh no! bitcoin will never go below 600-700! it will be $5000 next month!". They must have bolted off with their cash-out with their tail between their legs.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: njcarlos on February 13, 2014, 10:03:41 AM
That's how pump and dumps work don't-cha-know Bobby.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: kwest on February 13, 2014, 10:05:47 AM
Lemmings


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: cbeast on February 13, 2014, 10:22:00 AM
We're too busy buying cheap coins to be arsed to respond to trolls and permabears.   ;D


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: the_sunship on February 13, 2014, 10:31:21 AM
here they are -

http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000245380


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: spiderbrain on February 13, 2014, 10:36:24 AM
I'm an optimist. When in the last few years has bitcoin gone up in a smooth line? This shit is cray cray, enjoy the ride!


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: Cyberlight on February 13, 2014, 10:39:47 AM
There are still optimists, but this board has too many trolls who spread FUD

bitcoinsteve, bitcoinlitcoinbtcltc etc, ignore their cheap ass talk.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: chessnut on February 13, 2014, 10:51:44 AM
just a couple of nights ago there were optimists screaming 'to do moon'. most of them will be hanging on for dear life now, and some will be selling for dear life. it might take another 40% before they let go.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: seldon on February 13, 2014, 10:55:40 AM
just a couple of nights ago there were optimists screaming 'to do moon'. most of them will be hanging on for dear life now, and some will be selling for dear life. it might take another 40% before they let go.

Why would an optimist sell? History tought to just wait until the price goes back up. Might be different this time, might be not - so far bulls always won!


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: seleme on February 13, 2014, 12:55:36 PM
Here is the one  ;D


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: TERA on February 13, 2014, 01:05:14 PM
They'll be back as soon there is some green on the daily, shouting "CCMF".


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: Miz4r on February 13, 2014, 01:18:08 PM
just a couple of nights ago there were optimists screaming 'to do moon'. most of them will be hanging on for dear life now, and some will be selling for dear life. it might take another 40% before they let go.

Not really, instead of sitting on 1000% profit I'm only sitting on 500% profit now. I've been almost 300% underwater back in April and even then I stayed optimistic and didn't feel like selling, so I can't do anything but comfortably sit back and watch and laugh at all the drama and trolling going on. :P (and buy some more BTC in the meantime)
 
But this is what I would do if I was optimistic but sitting underwater right now and having no more fiat left to invest:

1) Turn off charts
2) Stay away from the charts and these forums for a few weeks
3) Come back and turn charts back on
4) Smile and shout CCMFTDM! ;D


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: runam0k on February 13, 2014, 01:21:22 PM
Not really, instead of sitting on 1000% profit I'm only sitting on 500% profit now. I've been almost 300% underwater back in April and even then I stayed optimistic and didn't feel like selling, so I can't do anything but comfortably sit back and watch and laugh at all the drama and trolling going on. :P (and buy some more BTC in the meantime)
 
But this is what I would do if I was optimistic but sitting underwater right now and having no more fiat left to invest:

1) Turn off charts
2) Stay away from the charts and these forums for a few weeks
3) Come back and turn charts back on
4) Smile and shout CCMFTDM! ;D
+1, exactly this.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: billyjoeallen on February 13, 2014, 01:49:02 PM
I'm your huckleberry. BTC FTW!


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: stompix on February 13, 2014, 01:50:24 PM
I noticed that in times of crash, there are no optimists around preaching "oh no! bitcoin will never go below 600-700! it will be $5000 next month!". They must have bolted off with their cash-out with their tail between their legs.

You're looking at the wrong threads maybe.
Just because there are still people posting here on bitcointalk it means there are people who are optimist on bitcoin future.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: BTCWizard on February 13, 2014, 01:51:30 PM
I'm optimistic, this is just history repeating itself. Wait a couple of weeks and see it reach a new high again. Why wouldn't I be optimistic?


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: WompRat on February 13, 2014, 01:57:03 PM
They'll be back as soon there is some green on the daily, shouting "CCMF".

I keep seeing this 'CCMF' and I still have no idea what it means.  Google suggests it is Community Concern for Mental Fragility, which seems about right.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: Opsamk on February 13, 2014, 02:00:04 PM
I'm optimistic, this is just history repeating itself. Wait a couple of weeks and see it reach a new high again. Why wouldn't I be optimistic?
In history though, bitcoin never had an exposed vulnerability cause this much disruption.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: Tzupy on February 13, 2014, 02:03:15 PM
They'll be back as soon there is some green on the daily, shouting "CCMF".

I keep seeing this 'CCMF' and I still have no idea what it means.  Google suggests it is Community Concern for Mental Fragility, which seems about right.

It means choo-choo-mofo, sometimes accompanied by to-da-moon (or is it Mars now?).
There is a choo-choo, but currently it's going downhill. This doesn't exclude some nice rebounds.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: aminorex on February 13, 2014, 02:09:10 PM
I'm optimistic, this is just history repeating itself. Wait a couple of weeks and see it reach a new high again. Why wouldn't I be optimistic?
In history though, bitcoin never had an exposed vulnerability cause this much disruption.

That is 100% totally untrue. 


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: chrsjrcj on February 13, 2014, 02:13:02 PM
No optimists = time to buy.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: Torque on February 13, 2014, 02:15:59 PM
They'll be back as soon there is some green on the daily, shouting "CCMF".

I keep seeing this 'CCMF' and I still have no idea what it means.  Google suggests it is Community Concern for Mental Fragility, which seems about right.

I believe CCMF stands for "Check Cashing Mo Fo".  Someone that keeps making money doing the same thing over and over.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: Holliday on February 13, 2014, 03:08:54 PM
I noticed that in times of crash, there are no optimists around preaching "oh no! bitcoin will never go below 600-700! it will be $5000 next month!". They must have bolted off with their cash-out with their tail between their legs.

I'm an optimist, but I'm not going to post ridiculous claims. I'm not going to argue (much) against ridiculous claims either. These trolls shouting "Bitcoin is dead" are trying to scare sheep for their own agenda.

Bitcoin will survive this transaction malleability issue. The exchanges will function again soon (except Gox which is non-functional by design). In a few months this will be forgotten.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: Holliday on February 13, 2014, 03:10:54 PM
I noticed that in times of crash, there are no optimists around preaching "oh no! bitcoin will never go below 600-700! it will be $5000 next month!". They must have bolted off with their cash-out with their tail between their legs.

I created an optimistic post the other day, telling people to buy, and for some reason it was deleted. Perhaps there's an agenda here for bitcoin to go lower so the big whales can scoop up bitcoins at lower prices. It wouldn't surprise me.

What did your post say (more precise) and who deleted it?


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: JimboToronto on February 13, 2014, 03:27:46 PM
We're too busy buying cheap coins to be arsed to respond to trolls and permabears.   ;D

+1


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: stompix on February 13, 2014, 03:33:48 PM
They'll be back as soon there is some green on the daily, shouting "CCMF".

I keep seeing this 'CCMF' and I still have no idea what it means.  Google suggests it is Community Concern for Mental Fragility, which seems about right.

I believe CCMF stands for "Check Cashing Mo Fo".  Someone that keeps making money doing the same thing over and over.

Try: Choo Choo Mother Fucker  :)


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: JimboToronto on February 13, 2014, 03:34:19 PM
Lemmings

Lemmings? Those who panic sell when the price dips?



Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: Holliday on February 13, 2014, 03:39:29 PM
I noticed that in times of crash, there are no optimists around preaching "oh no! bitcoin will never go below 600-700! it will be $5000 next month!". They must have bolted off with their cash-out with their tail between their legs.

I created an optimistic post the other day, telling people to buy, and for some reason it was deleted. Perhaps there's an agenda here for bitcoin to go lower so the big whales can scoop up bitcoins at lower prices. It wouldn't surprise me.

What did your post say (more precise) and who deleted it?

I can't remember.
I was trying to encourage newbies to not be disheartened with the price drop.
And that it might be a good time to convert altcoins to bitcoin.
Nevermind.......

You get a PM when one of your posts is deleted. I guess you deleted that?


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: RodeoX on February 13, 2014, 03:42:45 PM
I'm still optimistic about bitcoin's future.  I have seen drops before, no big deal. I only look at fundamentals. Is bitcoin still the cheapest, fastest, and most private way to buy on the internet?  :)


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: 600watt on February 13, 2014, 03:44:24 PM
Not really, instead of sitting on 1000% profit I'm only sitting on 500% profit now. I've been almost 300% underwater back in April and even then I stayed optimistic and didn't feel like selling, so I can't do anything but comfortably sit back and watch and laugh at all the drama and trolling going on. :P (and buy some more BTC in the meantime)
 
But this is what I would do if I was optimistic but sitting underwater right now and having no more fiat left to invest:

1) Turn off charts
2) Stay away from the charts and these forums for a few weeks
3) Come back and turn charts back on
4) Smile and shout CCMFTDM! ;D
+1, exactly this.


bitcoin is so volatile that at some point even the most optimistic bull and the most pessimistic bear will have their moment of "see, I TOLD YOU SO, SIR"

as long as, in the long run we can laugh at the pessimists, everything is fine. those guys are trying to tell us that bitcoin with its 11166.67% performance in the last 24 months is a bad investment. that is a hard standing.  :D


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: hostmaster on February 13, 2014, 03:45:23 PM
time to be optimistic...


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: igorr on February 13, 2014, 03:48:54 PM
No more optimist, when no more chasout from any exchange.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: JimboToronto on February 13, 2014, 03:53:24 PM
I'm still optimistic about bitcoin's future.  I have seen drops before, no big deal. I only look at fundamentals. Is bitcoin still the cheapest, fastest, and most private way to buy on the internet?  :)

Buy? You actually use BTC to buy things? What are you, one of those fanatical nutjob koolade-drinking "believers"?

Don't you realize that Bitcoin was created way back in November for the sole purpose of speculative trading?


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: BitChick on February 13, 2014, 04:14:04 PM
Optimist checking in.   ;D 

The reason we don't say much is because most people laugh at us and shoot us down and there is no point in saying anything most of the time.

My reasons for being optimistic?

We are still at $650 after Gox "failing."
Tons of press, negative and positive, causes new interest in the currency.
Wall Street is still planning on getting involved.
More large companies are on the brink of adoption.
ATM's sprouting up everywhere.
If we get to $10,000 this year it will be the absolute slowest year ever for BTC.
We could honestly get to $50,000 this year and it would be  "normal" year.
I have lost trust in fiat.  It feels so good to have funds somewhere else.

That is just a handful of things that come to mind.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: igorr on February 13, 2014, 04:16:22 PM
but you can not take your money from exchange.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: N12 on February 13, 2014, 04:17:05 PM
If we get to $10,000 this year it will be the absolute slowest year ever for BTC.
You forget 2012.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: Ozlanthos on February 13, 2014, 04:25:11 PM
I can't speak for others in the Bitcoinverse, but I simply "don't care". You want to hear me say it will go up? OK, it will go up. How about I say that it is going to tank and most of you tards are going to lose your butts selling into the freefall? Either or both could be happening right at this very moment. Do you know how much control I have over it? About as much as the Federal Reserve and US Treasury do, whish is to say NONE AT ALL And that is the way it should stay.

You want some optimism? Here you go. Can you imagine how the dollar would have fared the latest transaction maeliability issue? I think that the Federal Reserve would have kept their mouths shut about it while they figured out a way to exploit the bug with maximum efficiency. Bitcoin is not going to tank. And if I'm wrong and BTC goes back down to single digits, and some "big whale" comes along and vacu-sucks every available Satoshi, I will not care, because I know the network will crank out another Bitcoin within 5 to10 minutes.

-Oz


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: igorr on February 13, 2014, 04:30:42 PM
patience coming to an end, and will price will suddenly explode.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: RodeoX on February 13, 2014, 04:34:45 PM
I'm still optimistic about bitcoin's future.  I have seen drops before, no big deal. I only look at fundamentals. Is bitcoin still the cheapest, fastest, and most private way to buy on the internet?  :)

Buy? You actually use BTC to buy things? What are you, one of those fanatical nutjob koolade-drinking "believers"?

Don't you realize that Bitcoin was created way back in November for the sole purpose of speculative trading?
Of course I don't buy things. I'm just in it for the Ponzi.  ;D 


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: JimboToronto on February 13, 2014, 04:40:28 PM
I created an optimistic post the other day, telling people to buy, and for some reason it was deleted.

I've never seen a post in someone else's thread get deleted.

Perhaps you meant to say you created a new thread.

Off-topic or spammy threads (bull or bear) are often deleted.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: pbody on February 13, 2014, 04:41:14 PM
Amazing deal to be had right now. I think it will hit 300. I have my order in. These are good times!


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: stompix on February 13, 2014, 04:41:47 PM
I'm still optimistic about bitcoin's future.  I have seen drops before, no big deal. I only look at fundamentals. Is bitcoin still the cheapest, fastest, and most private way to buy on the internet?  :)

Buy? You actually use BTC to buy things? What are you, one of those fanatical nutjob koolade-drinking "believers"?

Don't you realize that Bitcoin was created way back in November for the sole purpose of speculative trading?
Of course I don't buy things. I'm just in it for the Ponzi.  ;D 

No way!!! You too? =))))))


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: DieJohnny on February 13, 2014, 04:45:42 PM
I created an optimistic post the other day, telling people to buy, and for some reason it was deleted.

I've never seen a post in someone else's thread get deleted.

Perhaps you meant to say you created a new thread.

Off-topic or spammy threads (bull or bear) are often deleted.

Thread originators can delete posts, one of mine was deleted by repitilia


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: BitChick on February 13, 2014, 05:06:30 PM
If we get to $10,000 this year it will be the absolute slowest year ever for BTC.
You forget 2012.

I wasn't here then.  :D

Not sure what the numbers for 2012 were exactly but I guess I was basing it on the fact that we have had crazy growth on average for the past several years.  It would not be shocking to see $10,000.  Just saying.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: fallinglantern on February 13, 2014, 05:21:04 PM
Been here the entire time. I just get ridiculed by the trolls for saying I have strong hands.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: roslinpl on February 13, 2014, 05:26:05 PM
I noticed that in times of crash, there are no optimists around preaching "oh no! bitcoin will never go below 600-700! it will be $5000 next month!". They must have bolted off with their cash-out with their tail between their legs.

I am optimist and I always smile while other panic @ forum :D



Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: adamsgtBit on February 13, 2014, 05:56:17 PM
I once was an optimist, but those times are gone.
I donīt see any future for Bitcoin anymore.. :(


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: FierceRadish on February 13, 2014, 06:00:54 PM
I once was an optimist, but those times are gone.
I donīt see any future for Bitcoin anymore.. :(

Oh, this is concerning, as it appears to be from the same Adam who started the huge wall thr....hang on a second!!!!!!


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: stompix on February 13, 2014, 06:05:25 PM
I once was an optimist, but those times are gone.
I donīt see any future for Bitcoin anymore.. :(

Oh, this is concerning, as it appears to be from the same Adam who started the huge wall thr....hang on a second!!!!!!


It appears we have a bear who is feeling that the bear market is done for this season and it's trying desperately to....do something...


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: proudhon on February 13, 2014, 06:17:32 PM
Count me among the optimists.  Here's something I've been considering lately.  I learned my big lesson in not trusting 3rd parties with any significant amounts of bitcoin in 2012 with the bitcoinica fuck up.  Many of us learned that lesson through that experience and others back then.  But, there just weren't that many of us.

This go around there are a lot more people with a lot more money invested in bitcoin.  And this most recent incident was enormous in scale, affecting multiple 3rd parties.  Basically, everyone just got schooled in why you don't keep lots of bitcoin with 3rd parties, and I suspect over the coming months we're going to see the bitcoin supply on exchanges drop as people withdraw their bitcoins and learn to hold them themselves.

The whole infrastructure is still maturing and VC interest is clear.  However, VCs won't tolerate the risk of investing in startups with inexperienced management teams, and, therefore, I think we're in the midst of seeing it change hands from business owners with little real business experience to more experienced managers.  My thinking is that the infrastructure is moving forward and becoming more mature and robust and more usable and interesting for end users and business integration, and I think supplies on the open markets will decrease.  Combine those two things and I think you have the ingredients for another strong bull run later this year.

Just some thoughts.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: Tzupy on February 13, 2014, 06:25:01 PM
Help, somebody kidnapped the real Proudhon and is posting in his name!  ;D

I will be optimistic once the market will hit the bottom of wave C, and it's still months away.
My primary concern is if the attacks on the network will continue and if one of them will be really damaging.
Maybe those perpetrating the attacks just want very cheap coins, but - worst case scenario - they might
want bitcoin dead. So far, the core devs and exchanges' staff don't seem to win this battle.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: windjc on February 13, 2014, 06:28:43 PM
Count me among the optimists.  Here's something I've been considering lately.  I learned my big lesson in not trusting 3rd parties with any significant amounts of bitcoin in 2012 with the bitcoinica fuck up.  Many of us learned that lesson through that experience and others back then.  But, there just weren't that many of us.

This go around there are a lot more people with a lot more money invested in bitcoin.  And this most recent incident was enormous in scale, affecting multiple 3rd parties.  Basically, everyone just got schooled in why you don't keep lots of bitcoin with 3rd parties, and I suspect over the coming months we're going to see the bitcoin supply on exchanges drop as people withdraw their bitcoins and learn to hold them themselves.

The whole infrastructure is still maturing and VC interest is clear.  However, VCs won't tolerate the risk of investing in startups with inexperienced management teams, and, therefore, I think we're in the midst of seeing it change hands from business owners with little real business experience to more experienced managers.  My thinking is that the infrastructure is moving forward and becoming more mature and robust and more usable and interesting for end users and business integration, and I think supplies on the open markets will decrease.  Combine those two things and I think you have the ingredients for another strong bull run later this year.

Just some thoughts.

Yes, the is what a transition of influence can look like. People losing faith in exchanges coupled with impending bit licenses for exchanges already vc financed and ready to start.

At this point it's all really about when those licenses come available. 3-6 months after that there will be a minor shift in exchanges.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: Kupsi on February 13, 2014, 06:29:11 PM
I'm an optimist. $5k+ in six months.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: magicmexican on February 13, 2014, 06:45:46 PM
I am just sad because i am out of fiat, those coins are so juicy


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: Torque on February 13, 2014, 10:37:45 PM
Count me among the optimists.  Here's something I've been considering lately.  I learned my big lesson in not trusting 3rd parties with any significant amounts of bitcoin in 2012 with the bitcoinica fuck up.  Many of us learned that lesson through that experience and others back then.  But, there just weren't that many of us.

This go around there are a lot more people with a lot more money invested in bitcoin.  And this most recent incident was enormous in scale, affecting multiple 3rd parties.  Basically, everyone just got schooled in why you don't keep lots of bitcoin with 3rd parties, and I suspect over the coming months we're going to see the bitcoin supply on exchanges drop as people withdraw their bitcoins and learn to hold them themselves.

The whole infrastructure is still maturing and VC interest is clear.  However, VCs won't tolerate the risk of investing in startups with inexperienced management teams, and, therefore, I think we're in the midst of seeing it change hands from business owners with little real business experience to more experienced managers.  My thinking is that the infrastructure is moving forward and becoming more mature and robust and more usable and interesting for end users and business integration, and I think supplies on the open markets will decrease.  Combine those two things and I think you have the ingredients for another strong bull run later this year.

Just some thoughts.

I agree.  One serious question Proudhon, let's say in 2-3 years there are 10x the number of exchanges that we have today.  Combine that with more folks holding their own bitcoins in personal wallets.  When the supply drops on all the exchanges out there, what effect will that have on the bitcoin economy overall?

Just a side note though: right now I actually trust Coinbase with my BTC, more so than I do myself on my home computer.  And I'm an IT guy.  But that may change in the future, dunno yet.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: chessnut on February 13, 2014, 10:52:12 PM
Count me among the optimists.  Here's something I've been considering lately.  I learned my big lesson in not trusting 3rd parties with any significant amounts of bitcoin in 2012 with the bitcoinica fuck up.  Many of us learned that lesson through that experience and others back then.  But, there just weren't that many of us.

This go around there are a lot more people with a lot more money invested in bitcoin.  And this most recent incident was enormous in scale, affecting multiple 3rd parties.  Basically, everyone just got schooled in why you don't keep lots of bitcoin with 3rd parties, and I suspect over the coming months we're going to see the bitcoin supply on exchanges drop as people withdraw their bitcoins and learn to hold them themselves.

The whole infrastructure is still maturing and VC interest is clear.  However, VCs won't tolerate the risk of investing in startups with inexperienced management teams, and, therefore, I think we're in the midst of seeing it change hands from business owners with little real business experience to more experienced managers.  My thinking is that the infrastructure is moving forward and becoming more mature and robust and more usable and interesting for end users and business integration, and I think supplies on the open markets will decrease.  Combine those two things and I think you have the ingredients for another strong bull run later this year.

Just some thoughts.

Proudhon, I just made a fortune of my maximally leveraged shotr position, are you saying I should now assume a maximally leveraged logn poisition?
thanks for the advice.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: TERA on February 13, 2014, 11:00:35 PM
as long as, in the long run we can laugh at the pessimists, everything is fine. those guys are trying to tell us that bitcoin with its 11166.67% performance in the last 24 months is a bad investment. that is a hard standing.  :D
How is this a good thing? It sounds overbought to me...


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: JimboToronto on February 14, 2014, 12:02:30 AM
Count me among the optimists.  Here's something I've been considering lately.  I learned my big lesson in not trusting 3rd parties with any significant amounts of bitcoin in 2012 with the bitcoinica fuck up.  Many of us learned that lesson through that experience and others back then.  But, there just weren't that many of us.

This go around there are a lot more people with a lot more money invested in bitcoin.  And this most recent incident was enormous in scale, affecting multiple 3rd parties.  Basically, everyone just got schooled in why you don't keep lots of bitcoin with 3rd parties, and I suspect over the coming months we're going to see the bitcoin supply on exchanges drop as people withdraw their bitcoins and learn to hold them themselves.

The whole infrastructure is still maturing and VC interest is clear.  However, VCs won't tolerate the risk of investing in startups with inexperienced management teams, and, therefore, I think we're in the midst of seeing it change hands from business owners with little real business experience to more experienced managers.  My thinking is that the infrastructure is moving forward and becoming more mature and robust and more usable and interesting for end users and business integration, and I think supplies on the open markets will decrease.  Combine those two things and I think you have the ingredients for another strong bull run later this year.

Just some thoughts.

Dude, what are you doing breaking kayfabe?

Think of all the little Proudhon-omaniacs who look up to you as a role model for bear trolling.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayfabe

Please keep your private beliefs to yourself and wear your trollbear costume convincingly.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: nakaone on February 14, 2014, 12:09:48 AM
mid term (probably even long term) perspective is nothing but brilliant


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: spiderbrain on February 14, 2014, 12:10:32 AM
Proudhon has turned, it has been confirmed by sources!


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: bassclef on February 14, 2014, 12:21:54 AM
They'll be back as soon there is some green on the daily, shouting "CCMF".

I keep seeing this 'CCMF' and I still have no idea what it means.  Google suggests it is Community Concern for Mental Fragility, which seems about right.

It actually stands for Community College Mental Fortitude.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: igorr on February 14, 2014, 12:46:23 AM
444 usd at gox!


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: Holliday on February 14, 2014, 12:47:10 AM
444 usd at gox!

At who? Oh, the "exchange that couldn't". Yeah, those guys... they suck.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: roslinpl on February 14, 2014, 12:47:26 AM
444 usd at gox!
602.00000000 @ Vircurex


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: igorr on February 14, 2014, 12:48:35 AM
444 usd at gox!
602.00000000 @ Vircurex

588 at BTC-e


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: SlaveInDebt on February 14, 2014, 12:49:07 AM
Optimisticly buying  ;D


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: igorr on February 14, 2014, 12:49:47 AM
brrrrr...


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: fonzie on February 14, 2014, 12:56:00 AM
brrrrr...

 :D :D


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: JimboToronto on February 14, 2014, 01:02:05 AM
They'll be back as soon there is some green on the daily, shouting "CCMF".

I keep seeing this 'CCMF' and I still have no idea what it means.  Google suggests it is Community Concern for Mental Fragility, which seems about right.

It actually stands for Community College Mental Fortitude.

I thought it was Crypto Coin Millionaires of the Future.

Edit: Then again perhaps it's Crash Conspiracy Moron Fail.


Title: Re: Where's all the optimists?
Post by: igorr on February 14, 2014, 01:19:32 AM
Check China,  also fall the same as gox !