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Title: Coming Soon - Fairbrix
Post by: michaelmclees on September 30, 2011, 08:52:38 PM
Like Tenebrix... but without the 7 million premined coins.

Before general release, I will mine about 151 blocks to lock in the Genesis block and establish that the program works as advertised.

Genesis nonce/hash has been found.

First lock-in is at 150 blocks.

I will mine 151 blocks to lock-in Genesis and release the link for everyone else shortly after that.

I will NOT mine very much beyond this, if at all before the general release.  All blocks, including the first, will be worth only 25FBX.


Title: Re: Coming Soon - Fairbrix
Post by: MaGNeT on September 30, 2011, 09:13:55 PM
Failbrix?


Title: Re: Coming Soon - Fairbrix
Post by: rTech on September 30, 2011, 09:15:51 PM
who actual cares about these forks anyways... they will die quite soon as none gives a crap about them :D


Title: Re: Coming Soon - Fairbrix
Post by: Etlase2 on September 30, 2011, 09:25:13 PM
but how much money do I get for being an early adopter?


Title: Re: Coming Soon - Fairbrix
Post by: Peter Lambert on September 30, 2011, 09:29:57 PM
You say "Like Tenebrix", what does that even mean, what is a tenebrix?

How are these different than other cryptocurrencies?


Title: Re: Coming Soon - Fairbrix
Post by: michaelmclees on September 30, 2011, 09:51:47 PM
You say "Like Tenebrix", what does that even mean, what is a tenebrix?

How are these different than other cryptocurrencies?

One mines these more efficiently with a CPU than a GPU.  Blocks found every 5 minutes on average.

See the Tenebrix announcement for more details.


Title: Re: Coming Soon - Fairbrix
Post by: Bobnova on September 30, 2011, 10:24:49 PM
I love it, "No premined coins except the 3775 I'm premining!".


Got a start date?


Title: Re: Coming Soon - Fairbrix
Post by: coblee on September 30, 2011, 10:32:17 PM
I love it, "No premined coins except the 3775 I'm premining!".

If you really want to call it fairbrix and claim no premined coins, then you need to donate those premined coins to a faucet or something.

And do you really need to premine to lock in the genesis block? The genesis block can be locked in by itself in the config and no one can mess with it without forking another chain. So what's the reason the premine 150 blocks other than just to keep those coins to yourself?


Title: Re: Coming Soon - Fairbrix
Post by: michaelmclees on September 30, 2011, 10:36:51 PM
I love it, "No premined coins except the 3775 I'm premining!".


Got a start date?

Probably will be tomorrow.  Definitely will be soon.

I guess I should be clear about what a premined coin is.  Premined coins are those above normal within the Genesis block itself.  This chain will not feature such a Genesis block.

My wallet will become trivial within probably a few days of release, unlike the Tenebrix protection/laundry fund, which will be 50% of the entire chain after 3 years worth of mining.


Title: Re: Coming Soon - Fairbrix
Post by: coblee on September 30, 2011, 10:46:08 PM
I guess I should be clear about what a premined coin is.  Premined coins are those above normal within the Genesis block itself.  This chain will not feature such a Genesis block.

By almost everyone else's definition of premined coins is coins that are mined before the client is released to the public. Ixcoin's creator premined 580k coins before releasing ixcoin. Lolcust just happened to come up with a way to put all the premined coins in the genesis block so as to not bloat the chain unnecessarily.

So just say fairbrix will have 3775 premined coins as oppose to tenebrix's 7.7 mil. Nothing wrong with that.


Title: Re: Coming Soon - Fairbrix
Post by: TiagoTiago on September 30, 2011, 11:04:13 PM
If you really wanna make it no premined coins while still being able to premine some coins for testing, how about you setup some little program to send  a fraction of the premine to each one of the first few hundred address that show in the block chain, being careful to refuse any money sent back to yourself (put it back into the autofaucet if it comes back to you before the autofaucet dries up) ?


Title: Re: Coming Soon - Fairbrix
Post by: michaelmclees on October 01, 2011, 12:05:48 AM
I guess I should be clear about what a premined coin is.  Premined coins are those above normal within the Genesis block itself.  This chain will not feature such a Genesis block.

By almost everyone else's definition of premined coins is coins that are mined before the client is released to the public. Ixcoin's creator premined 580k coins before releasing ixcoin. Lolcust just happened to come up with a way to put all the premined coins in the genesis block so as to not bloat the chain unnecessarily.

So just say fairbrix will have 3775 premined coins as oppose to tenebrix's 7.7 mil. Nothing wrong with that.

Fair enough.  I'll make the necessary changes.


Title: Re: Coming Soon - Fairbrix
Post by: Peter Lambert on October 01, 2011, 02:26:58 AM
If you really wanna make it no premined coins while still being able to premine some coins for testing, how about you setup some little program to send  a fraction of the premine to each one of the first few hundred address that show in the block chain, being careful to refuse any money sent back to yourself (put it back into the autofaucet if it comes back to you before the autofaucet dries up) ?

Or you could just send those coins to random addresses. Then some people someday will find an extra couple brix in their wallet :) No need to favor early adopters!


Title: Re: Coming Soon - Fairbrix
Post by: nmat on October 01, 2011, 02:37:54 AM
Or you could just send those coins to random addresses. Then some people someday will find an extra couple brix in their wallet :) No need to favor early adopters!

That's like destroying them. Finding a collision is highly unlikely.


Title: Re: Coming Soon - Fairbrix
Post by: coblee on October 01, 2011, 02:50:43 AM
Or you could just send those coins to random addresses. Then some people someday will find an extra couple brix in their wallet :) No need to favor early adopters!

That's like destroying them. Finding a collision is highly unlikely.

Check this post to see how unlikely that is: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4858.msg71200#msg71200


Title: Re: Coming Soon - Fairbrix
Post by: freequant on October 01, 2011, 05:59:39 AM
First lock-in is at 150 blocks.
I will mine 151 blocks to lock-in Genesis and release the link for everyone else shortly after that.

You don't need to "lock-in" anything.
Someone who wants to forerun you will have to start from the same genesis block, or he will be starting another blockchain.
Whatever amount of blocks you pre-mine will not allow to prevent someone from starting a new blockchain with a different genesis block.
Admit it : basically, all you want to lock-in is your profit...


Title: Re: Coming Soon - Fairbrix
Post by: worldinacoin on October 01, 2011, 08:40:09 AM
Reminds me of Ixcoin and I0coin, what alternative coins coming out next? :(


Title: Re: Coming Soon - Fairbrix
Post by: grndzero on October 01, 2011, 04:20:48 PM
Reminds me of Ixcoin and I0coin, what alternative coins coming out next? :(

I think we need a new subforum for Alternative Crypto Currencies -> Protest Currencies, currencies solely launched in protest of something they didn't like about the original alternative currency


Title: Re: Coming Soon - Fairbrix
Post by: Lolcust on October 01, 2011, 04:40:17 PM
I for one, intend to make an extortion-less solidcoin 2.0 fork, assuming SC ever comes out of beta


Title: Re: Coming Soon - Fairbrix
Post by: EskimoBob on October 01, 2011, 04:42:27 PM

we are waiting :)


Title: Re: Coming Soon - Fairbrix
Post by: dust on October 01, 2011, 08:06:46 PM
Sold all my TBX.  I can't see how people value a currency with such a huge pre-mine.


Title: Re: Coming Soon - Fairbrix
Post by: bulanula on October 01, 2011, 08:09:59 PM
Sold all my TBX.  I can't see how people value a currency with such a huge pre-mine.

Sold all my USD. I can't see how people value a country with such a huge debt.


Title: Re: Coming Soon - Fairbrix
Post by: Lolcust on October 01, 2011, 09:27:29 PM
Sold all my TBX.  I can't see how people value a currency with such a huge pre-mine.

Sold all my USD. I can't see how people value a country with such a huge debt.

Debt ? Ha-ha, you should see their pre-mine lol (and also, they can pre-mine more whenever they feel like it ;) )


Title: Re: Coming Soon - Fairbrix
Post by: michaelmclees on October 01, 2011, 09:37:42 PM
Announced.


Title: Re: Coming Soon - Fairbrix
Post by: worldinacoin on October 02, 2011, 12:36:34 AM
I think I will continue with Tenebrix, the creator has shown his ability to get a pool, exchange etc all done up nicely for his other coin geistgeld within days of launch.  This is a much better track record.


Title: Re: Coming Soon - Fairbrix
Post by: MaGNeT on October 02, 2011, 12:42:09 AM
I think I will continue with Tenebrix, the creator has shown his ability to get a pool, exchange etc all done up nicely for his other coin geistgeld within days of launch.  This is a much better track record.

At Fairbrix, the blocks seem to be empty.
Found 12 blocks now, 0 coins...

Tenebrix is working fine :)


Title: Re: Coming Soon - Fairbrix
Post by: freequant on October 02, 2011, 04:57:53 AM
It all sums up to whether you prefer to mine a heavily premined but functional coin maintained by capable (albeit greedy) developers, or a lightly premined coin bootstraped by Freddy who cannot even make a decent job at copying other people's work.   


Title: Re: Coming Soon - Fairbrix
Post by: Etlase2 on October 02, 2011, 04:58:33 AM
At Fairbrix, the blocks seem to be empty.
Found 12 blocks now, 0 coins...

lol confirmed failbrix


Title: Re: Coming Soon - Fairbrix
Post by: worldinacoin on October 02, 2011, 07:08:25 AM
I think Fairbrix comes out in too much of a rush.   More testing should be done first.