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Ok! I was actually trying to get reasons why people get addicted to gambling which we all know is more self inflicted. However, I came up with this theory for someone who may actually want to gamble and then would not want to get addicted based on trying to fix their mentality about it and I would like to seek your opinion on what you think about it, if it can actually end up working for any gambler or not.

The theory is;
If you want to gamble, see it more like you are paying the casino or gambling platform to have some fun (just like you do to go watch some movies in cinema), which if you are paying for anything, you are not meant to expect it back. The good thing however is that, you can actually end up being paid more for having that fun if you get lucky, but the chances of seeing that happen is pretty slim. In that light, if you cannot actually live with doing what I said above, then you should not be gambling at all.

Does this sound like a mentality that can help anyone understand what they are in for if they indeed want to gamble or something even those who are tending towards addiction can set their mind to so as not to get into that deep gambling hole that is hard to come out from?

This sounds good in theory, but I think it would be very hard for -some- people to disconnect from the notion that they gamble to win money.
The thing with addiction is that it kind of creeps up on you, without you noticing it at first.

So, you could very well be lying to yourself about 'only doing it for fun', while you're still getting addicted slowly.

A better tactic might be to severely limit the amount of time you spend on gambling, by sheer willpower alone.
When you see that you cannot do that, you can be pretty sure that you would be prone to becoming addicted in the future.

Addiction is unpredictable, because it repeats continuously to bet without realizing what it's fun for, so maybe with their victory can keep someone trying again and end up getting big losses, too ambitious to become a millionaire, nobody likes to lose, even those who are addicted gambling, but still they keep on gambling, gambling addicts talk, despite the tremendous defeat, there are feelings that bring them back to gambling, people gamble not just because of the prospect of winning, addiction behavior says that the gambler has a lot of motivation over the habit, they think the prospect of winning a lot of money is the strongest factor, but then followed by (because it's fun) and this, over time they will realize that such behavior can be melodic to the unfortunate, it will stop by itself.

It sound realistic, it need to be implemented by all of the gamblers so there are no addicted gambler, but in reality its really hard to implemented this theory, when talk about money then people can become greedy and losing control, if everyone can used this method then I believe we can change the perspective of gambling, we can change the bad stigma about gambling

The thing is that there are people who are addicted to going to the cinema. They tend to watch all movies. I call them Cinemaholic. So, if someone would want to put that theory onto someone who is addicted to watching movies at the cinema, then he would also get addicted to gambling. Added to that statement, I made a threat before and I said that if someone wants to quit gambling, he should quit himself. To clarify, he should do contradictory things that his self does not do.

I was saying the same things(about comparing gambling to buying movie tickets) not so long ago, so of course I agree with your theory. This is absolutely what a healthy approach to gambling should look like. The first thing we have to expect from it is entertainment and as a bonus we can expect winning some money, as if they were raffling off some prizes associated with the numbers of movie tickets.

I know some of the major addicts give all of us a bad name.  Same goes with drug use, some people know how to use responsibility and not let it negatively affect their lives.  Most gamblers are just looking to have some extra fun and throw some money on a sports match to make it more exciting.

Yes, the theory is right for the long run.
If you make 1 million bets of 10 cents, and the casino takes 1% house edge, you will end up losing about 1000$ which is equal to 10K bets or 1% from the total bets you did.
But if we talk here about a the very short term then the chances of you to lose/win more is much higher because there are less hits in total.
Personally this theory comes to teach people that they can't base there salary on gambling or even see it as a work, because in the long run they are guaranteed to lose.

On this way should how people do treat about gambling but most of us do failed out the true essence why gambling is being created and we do have it on other way around.This is why we do see the cycle of seeing broke gamblers because of such behavior. Greed is one of the reason why we are lost on the right path instead we do aim on enjoying gambling games but the fact in the end we do always or chase up on making money.
The worse we do deposit even more because you are already chasing your losses.

Clumsy answers thread. I do not understand what actually you are looking to get in the gambling sites. I do not understand what you trying to say here. If you want to invest the gambling ask the idea or check the worst part and everything.

You need to go with the gambling platform any new idea please do not invest your money on gambling and make money in other ways.

Very, very few people gamble simply for the fun of it. Do you think it's fun playing slot machines on your own at 2AM in a dingy casino? Do you think the people you see doing so are having fun? The answer is no, they're addicted, addicted to the chance of winning big, or reliving the memories of a time they actually did win big. People do not know whether this can happen to them, it depends on circumstance, but you certainly cannot say that it happens to everybody who doesn't play for fun.

this is not a theory , this is a fact and people should treat gambling only this way cause otherwise they will easily get addicted
but think about it this way , how many people you know that actually enjoy playing dice sites just for the fun part ?? cause I know none

thats why I only like poker and sportbetting , first of all if you are good you are almost guaranteed to make money and if you are not good then I'm sure you will have great time playing poker or watching the sport game that you have placed bets on

Nope. The expectation of winning is what makes gambling, gambling you cannot remove someone's mind that they are expected to win some few bets or so it doesn't make it an entertainment that way. Also I know anlot of people here have the mindset of considering their money lost already but I don't think the idea of winning some bets is removed from their minds. To keep it short the idea/expectation of winning is part of gambling and I don't think you can remove it from a gamblers' mindset.

This isn't the worst theory imo, the biggest misconception is gambling isn't and will never be a source of entertainment. I did understand your theory and it might make sense but the problem with most people is they spend a lot on this so called entertainment. A movie ticket might cost maximum of 30$ but for many gamblers they want to turn 30$ to 3000$ which is why they get addicted easily

Your theory is a literal mentality to some of the person. It's an obvious thing that may happened to any gamblers so I don't see any special to that.

But to make this short, we don't need to bother on what are the specific reasons why people get addicted to gambling as gamblers have different approaches and preferences why they became like that. There are other more reasons not just your stated "theory" itself that if we listed and discussed it here, it will take a long writing of post.

I can't completely disagree to what you said. However, a lot of people take gambling as a form of entertainment. Entertainment is subjective in nature. Hiring a hooker is also an entertainment to many. People spend money on that to get something in return that relaxes themselves. Similarly gambling relaxes a lot of people and they do it to get something in return. Probably you prefer to spend on movies to relax yourself. Some other people prefers gambling. Addiction here is completely self inflicted.

I think few people gamble for the enjoyment of gambling in and of itself, there is a different between enjoying gambling (regardless of outcome), and enjoying gambling because you stand the chance to win a lot of money. Most people fall into the latter category, which is unfortunately the category most likely to devolve into problem gambling.

Gambling seems like an easy way to fix big problems for many. I think that's its allure and how it seduces people. The high potential for profits in gambling can have a powerful effect on human consciousness. Think of it this way. A person who makes $20 an hour @ their job might take home around $80-$100 per 8 hour work day after taxes, fees and other liabilities. How hard is it to make $80-$100 per day gambling and how much time would it take?

What if someone could gamble and make $160 per day gambling while spending only 1-2 hours working everyday. Would that be better than working an 8 hour shift for roughly the same amount of money(after taxes)?

For many, gambling appears a path of least resistance and a way to maximize the amount of time a person has to pursue things they enjoy.

I think that's its attraction and it can be a difficult thing to address as there aren't many alternatives which have the potential to be as lucrative from a financial perspective. At least in terms of potential profit.

One way to deprogram gambling addicts could be to practice recognizing the difference between potential profit and real profit. There is a difference between the two which may not seem obvious at first, but a little bit of something could be infinitely more valuable than a lot of nothing. -Shrug- I don't know how to frame or deliver this type of message in a way which will connect with people.

I have this mindset sometimes when I gamble but it's only when I already lost. I enjoyed and paid for the fee(lost money).

This helps when you are frustrated with various losses that you've made not only for a single day but for a week or two.

His theory is that when you gamble don't think of any return that you can make with it, instead think of it as having fun and the money you gamble as a fee.

That’s the mindset responsible gamblers have. They spend a certain amount of money for entertainment, the same way they spend it when they go out to dinner or to the cinema. The difference is, they may go back home with more money, and that is the thrill that entertainment has.

I mean, while it does sound realistic and some people do ACTUALLY just go to the casino to have some fun. It usually isn't that way for people, as people don't ENJOY losing money. People without a doubt enjoy winning, that's the 'high' that gamblers feel when they're winning and they always want to get back to that point. Even if a person starts out with doing it for fun, it may end up catastrophic when the person starts losing money -- and attempts to regain their losses.

Sounds amazing on paper and in theory, but this isn't something that the human mind can cope with.


I really wouldn't call too many people 'responsible gamblers' that has to be a VERY minute portion of the gambling community.

This theory might work for wealthy people, who never feel the need in anything. They, for sure, can play just for fun. But others, whether they want it or not - will have that inside feeling that they can earn a million right here right now and become rich, and this feeling is very difficult to get rid of.

You are in that regard that we cannot remove the idea of winning from our mind completely, but it's important to be prepared for losing your whole bankroll. We should ask ourselves, before starting, whether we will be still happy if we will lose what we have on the balance? And if the answers is yes, then we can start gambling.

I can assure you that there are other things than expectation of winning that make gambling attractive. Just today we were discussing in another thread that PornHub has opened their own online casino with live female dealers showing their boobs. I'm sure many of us would be still happy even if a game was lost. :)

People don't see gambling as ideally for having fun at all, Almost 99% of people who gamble only do it for one reason alone and that is to win money. Having fun is a secondary matter and one can only have fun when they are winning and not when they are losing.

In my case I guess its somewhat the same with your theory. Mine, I always think that I will just eat a hearthy meal from an expensive restaurant or Ill just buy something go reward my self. There was a time when I was asked to try this new casino in town, we tried but lost then my buddy told me to recover what we lost.
 

Interesting. But the differemce is people pay fixed amounts for recreational activities like watching a movie. In gambling, you may end up seeming to pay twice or thrice to watch the same movie  over and over again.

Sounds good. This should be every gamblers mindset then, only we could enjoy it. But, most gamblers fails to be like this. For me, I gamble like what you have said above. It's not an addiction for me so, I can enjoy it and feel the excitement of winning something even if i am not expecting it.

Actually the best way not to get addicted is to not gamble if your funds is from hard word or a necessary money, the problem with gamblers getting addicted is that they thought it is so easy to win so even though they necessarily need the money they wanted to gamble it thinking that it will grow, and if they lose their funds they started to regret it and started to win what they've lost and that is the start of gambling addiction.

The way you painted it makes it so simple as straight to the point but that is not the way gambling is and I don't see anyone who engage in gambling without the primary objective of winning when that is no longer achievable, we can then start to give ourselves some succor by coming with other objectives. Your analogy is right but replacing that as the primary objective is what I see as impossible.

Gambling is serious business to people. The money you are wagering was not given to you for free some people work hard to earn that money so if they want to have fun without any return in terms of income, there are several places to do that which is not limited to cinema, clubs, vacation, traveling, swimming, play games etc.

The way out for me is finding another means of earning sufficient income which is equally time consuming ( for someone struggling with gambling at the moment) but for a mild gambler, I don't think there is need to worry about whether he sees it as fun or as a means to earn something decent.

Well that sounds completely reasonable, but the problem is that all people know that, they have the mindset of going into gambling just for fun but they always end up playing another one and another one and before they know it they are stuck and can't go back, it is similar to people who are addicted to video games they start playing for fun and slowly they become hooked to the game and can't quit it.

Some people may not know this but for me life is a gamble, take it or leave it, this is your only choices. If you want to pay for having fun then do it, if you don't want to pay for that then don't, simple as that. But if you cross over your limit then it is beyond gambling, it is your desire to go there, so it means that you accept the risk.

Every person knows it if they could just reflect it to their self in the first place but some people are stupid, so it is not their desire anymore but their stupidity.

Sounds good on paper but very difficult to not expect anything. Well from the name itself "GAMBLING" means you are risking something in proportion to the rewards relative to what you risked for. Sure, if you have enough resources to gamble money PURELY because of entertainment, then why the heck not? The problem lies on individuals who see gambling as an avenue that can solve their financial struggles and issues. When that happens, expect them to get addicted and their mentality would be clouded, thinking that they might recover what they lost and win in order to pay their current obligations.

Again, this creates an endless cycle between the individual and the casino due to the mentality of losing and hoping that they could recover their losses by BETTING again.


Like what I mentioned, the problem will only occur if people see gambling as a gateway to pay-off their obligations or to earn alternative income. Compared to people who primarily use it for entertainment, expect them to have self-discipline and control whenever they bet their money.

I do believe that as much as getting some small incentive it's already good for starting gambling.
Before joining any games gambler should read a specific set of guidelines to make him worth trying it and continuing or quiting.
Off course in the long run he will eventually become greedy if he hasn't understood his max stakes or didn't followed those guidelines

This theory may apply to most people, but not to persons with addictive personalities who simply can't help themselves.

That is the mentality everyone should have when they are gambling but unfortunately that is not the case and it is not difficult to understand why this is the case, unlike other games gambling is an activity that requires a constant input of money in the system, if you do not do it, you are not gambling and it is natural to expect a return on the money you gamble, in fact that is the way all the games are advertised so while in theory gambling games are only for fun many people see them as an easy way to multiply their money, we understand the math and control ourselves so we know that is not the case but we are a minority.

That's what I'm doing every time when I try to gamble.
Although it's difficult to understand but it's become human nature that usually we called as greed. We can control it today but it's always appear in every moment in your life !

About fun, yes your theory is correct! But how you define fun? For me gambling is fun because you can win money without doing anything. In cinema we are offered content to watch for which we pay. But in gambling, there is no content, the sole medium of fun is seeing your bet winning.
For example, I bet a lot on Fifa World Cup ended few days back. It made my matches more entertaining and heart beating. But both in the event of winning and losing, I am not satisfied and still wanted to bet more. Hence even if we consider betting as fun, it still could lead to addiction because Fun is addictive on its own.

the idea is excellent, but for some reason it seems to me that it will not work.

I mean watching movie or something does give you a sort of break for few hours, even though the movie might be shit you get to rest for some time but in gambling i feel that if you are trying to relax and reduce stress then it's a bad idea because if you lose your stress levels will rise further

What i have thought and came to know about gambling addiction is that it makes everyone habitual because if someone loose he or she will always trying to recover their amount and if someone wins it anytime his or her lust will compel them to do it again again

I myself have even fallen into the mentally that gambling could be a profession if done correctly, and that just isn't the case. The way you say to just use the money to have fun and play is great because you can consider the money you're using lost as an expense for fun.

Actually more people knows that winning from gambling is very slim but still they want an easy way to become rich person.If people don't want to get addicted they need to limit themselves and understand that this is just entertainment,they are spending their money to get fun.But still we can't convince the people they do what they want so better save ourselves from any addiction is the best we can do.

I think this pretty much irons it out

At the end of the day, that mentality is a great one to have, but it's not realistic for a lot of people (especially ones with addictive personalities).
If you have an addictive personality (and most people need to be honest with themselves about this), don't gamble at all, or don't gamble alone.

But for me, I've always taken this exact approach with gambling. It's for fun, nothing more, nothing less. Gambling gives a thrill just as a roller coaster would - essentially "never expect profit".

Unless you're one of those who got BTCs as pennies (at BTC's emergence) and now are full of BTCs for wasting in really strange bets (ALL IN) :P

There are still some people who do engage with gambling in longer span of time but cant be considered to be addicted but its really hard to convince ourselves that they arent addicted yet engaging into gambling with a specific time or lets just say almost everyday is really proving out that hes already one those those gamblers cant really resist not to play. They do just tell they are not addicted but deep inside they are just keep lying to themselves. Prolong periods of playing will really put you into that case even no matter how strong your self-control is.

maybe some people will think like what you think. but we don't know what exactly in their mind and what they will do if they are in the gambling places. maybe they understand about the risk of playing gambling but they still want to try to play the game. the addicting in gambling come to us when we want to play more in the game even if we know the consequences of gambling that caused of losing money. the feeling of curiosity in ourselves sometimes can be a big problem for us so it will attract us to get deeper into the gambling games.

I think to call someone addicted, there have to be some negative consequences tied to the gambling habits of that person.
I wouldn't call someone addicted if they play a couple of hours per day, but don't spend more than they can lose and if it doesn't prevent them from having important social relationships with other people.

Now I do think they might be at higher risk of becoming addicted down the line, but I don't think you can ever be 100% that that will happen.

Not at all it doesn't sound or even look realistic this a dumb thing people gamble for various reasons and there is no reasons to give the house the money. They gamble cause they may be heart broken, lonely want to have fun experiences in their life's that all is what is reality. I don't know where yiu found out this but as a gambler I do not agree with this at all.

People can easily judge other people without even knowing on the true situation of such person.He do have his own freewill and we do know if we are already doing it too much.
You are still on a safe side if you are aware about your savings and other allocated important funds but we cant really remove into our minds that playing gambling will make a link to addiction.
It just depend on how you would control yourself or let addiction to overcome you.

WhT ever the reason you can give but it is clear that everyone knows the side affects of gambling but still they are gangling. The addiction of gambling starts like this first the gambler starts to gamble for fun but when he looses high then he goes after tore over its loss and then it starts the addiction, which ends in disaster.

This is EXACTLY why I gamble and how I gamble. I have been preaching this idea for YEARS now. I go and gamble anywhere I want and see the money I gamble as an expense for fun. Exactly like going to movies or something. It is purely fun from home on my laptop. I tried to explain this to people yet they try to find some weird ways of figuring out how they can beat the system like gambling house yet no one cane with the house edge house will always win, just focus on the entertainment value and have fun. Because this is how a gambling house must work and we need to accept that fact. There could be few exceptions but those are not definitely the examples. Yes, we cannot copy anyone for making big fortune out of gambling. But, we may copy the way how some gamblers entertaining themselves. But, no one is ready to pay attention on that until they do learn their own lessons like how I did in my early gambling days >:(.

People enter into gamble only after seeing some lucky people and to just copy them in their life. Just think over, if you did hear only sad stories on gambling, you would have entered into gambling ? No way for me. People might have turned as a fun seeking gambler after many bitter experience but before that I am sure all of us had entered here just to find our lucky day. Hence all are true and must be realistic only.

I think gambling can still lead someone to addiction to it if they don't know how to control their self. People tend to have some fun and able to pay for a price for that but we should remember that we have to take the money that we can afford to lose and not just the whole money that you hardly earned for a week or month.

This theory is very realistic but if all the gamblers followed it every time they gamble that is some bad news for casinos and gambling companies. A person so responsible will never become addicted or he will not play more money after he loses the money that had bet on something for example and I am not talking in the case where he wins which he may continue to play with only the wins.

I think that if this rule is followed from all the gamblers we would see much less gambling companies.

This has become big problem from people. They don’t want to lose this option because they want to earn easy money. But yahoo know the interesting thing that is true in so many cases, people do know that this game is hilarious and detrimental results can be made. They know they wouldn’t be earning any little penny from this game but still I ant sure why this is happening.

Maybe if there was some sort of limitations on gambling websites on how much of your bankroll you can lose on one day but that is just bad business practice, why wouldn't they allow you to gamble all your money away if you are not responsible, you are losing your money and they are taking that money as a business profit.

All the above, if you can create an imaginary limit and just gamble accordingly and leave when you lose certain amounts than you can actually have a shitty day but still leave with small amount lost. You can come back on next day and keep doing whatever it is you were doing and the results could be a lot better. In gambling nothing sound realistic as per when I was sharing few of my gambling moments, my friends have teased me back how that was possible. Similarly, only gamblers do feel the pain of all the gambling problems and for the outside people, they are just jokes and unrealistic.

Some websites do have those limitations, to prevent yourself from playing or spending more than you would like.
I haven't seen it on any crypto casino's, but some casino websites in my country have it.

You can allocate playtime and a budget to yourself and if you go over it, you can't play anymore.
AFAIK it's not required by the government to do this.

When they are ready to lose their money to get more money which is the first mistake of the people because gambling is not like investing or doing business so where we cannot make money from our skills we just need to rely on the luck.Its okay lets decide their fate by themselves.

Then in my own conclusion, gambling is purely based on luck. Even if you are new or veteran in gambling if you are not lucky to win, you will eventually lose your resources if you get addicted to it. So see to it that when you gamble, make sure to gamble only the amount that is not needed for your daily expenses and savings.

Yes, some of us will think it's about mentality and if we can help them to think about this at least they can prevent from being addicting in gambling. But sometimes, we want to feel how if we are playing gambling and in that time, we don't think about the addicting because we only want to feel the games with the money involve. But soon, we can become an addicting person in gambling and we are hard to leave the places.

But I am sure that there are people that can come out from gambling and stay aware about the dangers of playing gambling and they prevent to become addicting. Even they can leave gambling forever and that person can be a good example for every gambler who wants to leave gambling.

I think it's a great way to deal with people who have an addiction, explicitly gambling addiction. If you have heard of the saying that it's all in mind, you could add this part on it and try experimenting yourself in it (if you are addicted to it or something)

Thinking in that way, if I were addicted to gambling, would help me out. Because people who are addicted would still need food, electricity, other necessities to live. This got me thinking of why casinos tend to give out free stuff whether it's a stay in a hotel or free food just to make you stay in the casino.

I hope those people who don't necessarily have time to read this theory would find to stop their addiction with their ways.

This is a good attitude to have OP.  I treat gambling the same as purchasing a movie ticket or buying a video game.  I'm really just paying to have a good time.  The chance of winning money is obviously why most people gamble but I don't think people should get their hopes up too much.  A lot of us just want the chance of strking it big someday.

That is a great suggestion though I don't think there is such thing an amount that is not needed for daily expenses or savings because if that is an excess on your budget, you can just put it in your savings account or piggy bank if you have one. You can save and at the same time you will be having money when there are some emergencies around your family or house. Maybe you can just invest that extra money into something that will give you profit in the near future or if you want to have fun you can just go to your hobbies maybe play online games and spend there your money.

People do have different interest some would really be sensible on their future and some would be just confident on the money that they do have on their own pockets or bank accounts. Saving behavior will vary on each individual,some might save it for another purpose and some will definitely get funds out of that savings just to seek our leisure and there nothing wrong with that yet we do have all the control of our funds but the important thing is when you engage to gambling always think that all things should really be on moderation or in control if you don't like to experience problems later on.

Saying that people who aren't having fun gambling should quit it is stupid. Some people like to gamble and aren't addicted but they are drawn to it because it makes them money. They aren't having fun, it's a hard work for them to stay focussed all the time and on top of the game. Should they quit only because there's no fun involved? Think about it OP not every person is the same and you can't fit everyone into your rule.

most people play gambling is just for fun, but there are also those who clearly expect victory from him but it certainly will not be easy to get for most people who are not yet proficient at gambling, even though gambling is always based on luck but people who have won from it will definitely experience addiction in gambling

Anyone who gambles will definitely seek profit and pleasure is an added value for those who are able to win gambling and also every gambler certainly does not have an equal addiction, because everyone has their own way of life and gambling is an option that they might consider will improve their finances, even though I just feel gambling is unnoticed money spending.

it totally goes noticed as people use it for their entertainment purpose but those who play just to make money most probably will end up losing a lot of money and will not be able to fund their finance in long run. So it is better to stay away if someone is not able to control them self.

If you're seeing the movie , all people know that it's being plotted !
The environment will be different if you're gamble in Vegas for example.

Yes, I'm usually gamble for fun but for some people when they decide to gamble with fun, they can ended with regret.
It's human nature ,isn't it ?

But the facts is everyone who is gambling is not going to make money by doing this so if they are doing for making profits then they were doing this wrong.Yes gambling have different level of addiction where some people can control if they don't have any money left and some other will try to gamble with their property or even get loan for doing this.

It does not matter whether people want to gamble for entertainment purposes or as a source of income or profit, in the end, gambling may eat them or devour them turning them into gambling addicts not thinking what may happen to their money or themselves.

If you are a gambling addict, you must be able to support your addiction. You should cope up with that type of living since addiction is the hardest thing you could erase or forget in your life. With some interviews I've done about smoking addiction, they are really having a hard time not lighting a cigarette even for a minute especially after they ate or they are tired. They say that they can feel their saliva gushing out wanting to light some so in the early stages of their stopping, they lightly reduces it to 2 per day. Just imagine what should be done to gambling addicts.

I think the main reason why people get addicted to gambling is two parter.

One part is there is usually people out there who have nothing to do on their free time and when they start gambling there is also a group of people you can connect with while gambling, so they are both gambling to spend time and they are talking with other people who gamble as well and make a scene for themselves and get away from their lonely boring lifes and get into an exciting and crowded hobby.

Second part is when people lose money it is not easy to accept that as "lost money" right away and they comeback to try to win that money back, I know personally, I have followed my losses and lost about 2.5 bitcoins (thankfully when bitcoin was cheaper 4-5 years ago).

I think OP has a good point, and I have seen several people and sites also recommend the same thing, which is to treat gambling as a part-time hobby or entertainment. And to treat deposits like a payment for a service and entertainment, which you should not expect to get back.

But maybe the problem also lies with the marketing and advertising of gambling. Maybe we can also encourage casino owners to advertise their services as entertainment, rather than a chance to win money. I know this is impossible and as a business model, this is exactly what needs to be advertised (the chance to win big). But perhaps at deposit, casinos can show some responsibility and alert the player with messages that ask them "this is a lot of money, are you sure you want to deposit it? You may lose it all" or something along those lines?

Anybody who thinks they can make money from gambling are fools. If you get lucky you will win big but if you dont get lucky then you will lose. The casino is a place for the owners of the casino to make money not to let people rob their house - its not a charity. If the promises seem to good to be true then you should watch your step and think twice before you act.

Being willing to attempt the luck based games shows that the person is going to get addicted soon. They should mend their ways and keep proper control over it.

Leaving expectations out of it is one thing, the other is the dopamine high one gets from playing (not from winning!) and this is the addictive part. It's all chemistry, you can't win it over with your mind easily. ;) Some of us are more prone to getting addicted, some are not.

Actually, no one is prone to getting addicted; it is just your mindset towards gambling that makes you prone or not.
The mindset a lot of people tend to have towards gambling is always channeled to winning a lot of money from their gambling activities and then forgetting that this is a pure game of luck and nothing else and the chances of actually  losing hugely is there as well.

However, because of their greed and the desire to want to get rich, they end up messing up with their lives and that is something terrible. If people can see gambling like the way OP said it, we would have sane gamblers who really would not be paying so much attention on winning when it comes to gambling.

Some people do get consistent profit from gambling though, such as professional gamblers and i wouldn't  call them fools. Gambling works for certain individuals though not for most of us, and it's your responsibility to know your limits if you're not part of that few.

Well that's how we should set our mind when we gamble but majority of gamblers are thinking they can earn money through it and its not just for entertainment like what you have said.

Nowadays gambling for ordinary people are like a source of income that can double their money in snap and can give them fortune, because of this they tend to became addicted for trying to get back the money they lost.

Using your hard-earned money to gamble is the other reason why its hard to accept gambling is only for fun and you should not expect anything in return.

There are indeed professional gamblers out there, but it takes lots of practice and learning, and it's definitely not something for everyone. You've got to have lots of discipline to make money from gambling, and an ability to adapt to change- this Reddit thread (https://old.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5wqatl/iama_professional_gambler_amaa/) features a person that is supposedly a professional gambler answering questions about his occupation and other things, and I think this is a relatively interesting read, but it's going to take lots of time to gain the skills to make money from gambling; again, people put thousands of hours into this, and it's definitely not for everyone.

Right, which is usually the first mistake most of the time for people who tend to gamble a lot; as they look for things they possibly cannot find, like trying to gamble for profit.
For heaven sake, people should realize that gambling is not an investment where you will certainly get some profit from your investment if you do things well, this is a game of luck and really what the OP said is a whole lot realistic and if people can have such a mindset towards gambling, I am sure, we would have less addict in the gambling space.

Lol as if this is applicable for those who enters gambling.because at first gambling is really funny but getting deep into it,then you will find this profitable since every newbie in gambling comes with luck.but when youre getting further then luck leaves you and losing will manage you gambling habits.thats turns to addicting when you always wanted to regain your losses

That Reddit thread is interesting, I didn't know it exists. A lot of interesting topics, I like where William Bott told another user in the thread.

This should be the one that one rule that everybody should follow. It's just correct, and you don't need to be over the top, you just need to be disciplined, unless you want to YOLO.
Most of my recent bets were like that, and I instantly regretted it when I saw the red font in the "My Results" tab in the gambling site. I agree that it's not for everyone.

You are looking at it from the different prespective. If you jump into the lives of the professional gambler then you will notice some darkness in their lves as well due to their habits. Fact is that they can live with that and most of the time they play skill based games like poker which have some PvP winning chance. Then they also get incentives from the casinos to play for them which adds to their income. But the difficult thing is to reach upto that level of influence.

Of course the gambler is responsible for their losses and does not blame the casino for that. ;D

It is simply because majority of the people on earth are always greedy and looking for shortcuts and quick ways to get rich and they always do imagine that gambling is a space where that can easily come out good for them.

I have seen so many people today who are just so particular about winning to the point that they tend to start chasing recovery of losses and eventually get drenched in their own addiction that coming out of it becomes extremely hard. Gambling is always going to be hard to see as fun as you have said, unless you have to come to terms and reality that you are going to be losing it all anyway and only you know the reason why you still come to gamble anyway.

Sometimes, when we talk about professional gamblers, I actually have only seen most people who just managed to get lucky at the end of it all, and in that case, when you have to compare that to a lot of people who were never lucky, you will get more of the latter than the former.

People tend to make the mistake of trying to want to win something big from gambling because they have heard some people winning huge amount of money, but one thing I want to clarify is that, when 1 person is winning, 99 others are really losing badly which is why the chances of winning will always be something difficult to come by.

From OP theory, it means you are going to have to train your mind to the extent that it should expect nothing back when you are gambling but that in itself is a very big deal because the mind knows that it should expect a reward when you are gambling not that it's paying to have fun.

People become addicted because of greed. When they win money in gambling they want to earn more and more but in vain. When a gambler loses money he tries to get his money back but in vain and due to this regular gambling a person become addicted and then living gambling is difficult and may impossible for them. Fixing a time and money limits may help in this regard.

Expecting nothing back from gambling is not gambling anymore. Its another phrase for donation. People gamble to try their luck at doubling their money and not to expect nothing. They do expect returns but they dont realize that the casino is not a charity for them. They forget the casino's house edge and that their luck is going to run out soon.

Playing for fun is a misconception at the most. Some people say they are playing for fun but they are actually using it to ease their pain of losing money - it can be tough to handle it sometimes if you are addicted.

You have a point, but at the same time, expecting too much from gambling can be jeopardizing. Take a look at it this way! You keep having the mindset that you want to win as that is the basic thing to expect anyway, and without being able to control your zeal to winning, it would really be very hard to curtail that aspect of you that would always want to go overboard.

I understand that unless we want to lie to ourselves, playing for fun could be a misconception as practically everyone who is gambling is expecting a win which is the main reason to be gambling anyway, but even while expecting a win, trying to fix your mind to the idea that it is not always about winning when it comes to gambling and in fact, the chances of losing is pretty huge as well, that would help you to place a limit.

Well, that is the point. The mind always will want a win, and that is the generally mentality that comes to play when it comes to gambling. However, what is important now is to fine tune that mind, which in some way it is indirectly called mind control and try as much as possible to stay sane so you do not get to let your mind and the impulses that comes with gambling control you in most cases.

As long as you are actually able to put yourself in that mindset that the OP mentioned, I think we will be able to actually have more of sane and less addicted gamblers generally.

Thats the point dude, that's what makes players become addicts, because many of them have the goal of making money from gambling, even many people use gambling as their main source of income, of course that is a wrong mindset if gambling is likened to gain wealth

most addicts seems dont have a lot of ideas about how to make money, dont know where else they get income, so they only know gambling

besides, use dead money to do gambling for example money from trade or other benefits, do not spend capital to gamble from the private pocket that we have so that when we experience a loss do not feel too lost because the money we play to gamble is money from profits we get from other results and aim to be developed from the results of these benefits.

In gambling you must be prepared to accept the risk of either winning or losing. If you don't want to be addicted don't expect to gamble. It is unlikely that you will always win gambling, so accept that when you lose it will make you better and will not be addicted to gambling.

Your conclusion is totally wrong. You can win only dice game with your luck and no other game. If so then every lucky man would be the billionaire but there is nothing like this. Luck is just a factor in gambling but not the guarantee for winning a game. With luck you should also be very skilled and experienced gambler then your winning chances will enhance.

If we see the verdicts of gambling we will find it bad. it is not easy for everyone to make money from gambling even skilled gamblers lose their money due to regular gambling. I have seen thousands of gamblers that lost their money although they also have won many times but in ambling the worst thing is greed. When a gambler wins he greed for money and finally loses all his money.

Not the case with Dan Bilzerian. Or is it? I have seen videos of him sharing his tactics. I mean the guy's a billionaire from gambling.

Yep, it's called survivorship bias. People only take the winning or successful events seriously ignoring the majority of unsuccessful attempts.

They are sorting it from an easy access, they look at it as fair enough as you will see the outcome much quicker, those who wanted to have a quick access to see the gain or loses finds gambling as the best resources, for someone who just look at gambling as a source of entertaining they will always find positive approach so even they win or they loses they still find happy things with their experiences.

In all honesty there are still gambling ways that can make you rich in a single second, it is not poker or it is not dice but it is lottery. You can't really get "addicted" to lottery, the major ones that give out millions of dollars are usually once or twice a year at most and how much tickets could you really buy ?

So, I still hold belief that the most innocent gambling game is lottery and you can get like 5-10 tickets (some people get hundreds, those are really crazy people) and with that method maybe who knows you can have millions of dollars one day but probably not. Aside from lottery anyone who believes "it won't happen to me" and lose all of their money are really just people who are dreaming, there is a house edge, you will lose, there is no method, there is no system, there is no strategy that will change house edge to your favor at all.

Why would you even want to waste money that you made from trading into gambling? If you are someone who is diligent about taking care of their own asset this would not be the option you would think of. The phrase "spare money" is an oxymoron. There are people in this world who beg for a piece of bread to feed themselves while there are people who are so rich they waste their food. Use that spare money you get to something more fruitful than gambling it away.

We see a lot of  people sulking in casino chatrooms about making money from trading then wasting it away - dont be one of those. Be decisive and take your money into your hands.

I don’t believe that only luck will favor you all the time. if so then I should say that luckiest people should also be the wealthiest people in the world, but nothing is like that. It means that gambling doesn’t depend only on luck and some other factors also necessary in gambling, like gambling skills, tactics, bluffing, tricks etc. having these qualities you will be a successful gambler.

Why do that in the first place? I think there are a lot of things that you could use it for or in fact, it's better to invest in more in what you have currently experienced in growing the portfolio. I don't think that it's a waste of money to use profit from another asset to try to earn more. It's a risk and I think it's the user's discretion to do so, whether or no they have assurance or not.

I think people who sulk in losing in gambling chats want some attention and let have people pity him or her. It's not always like that for everyone but I have seen people doing that every time hoping that people would tip him to have money. It's like a crying faucet. lol.

Another type of strategy where gaining attentions just to got some free tips to gamble back, if you already gaining money from your investment it's far more better to reinvest it to other form of such kinds of passive income, gambling is not one of them and if you are aiming to have some entertainment then spare your extra money that you really afford to lose, have a good control with your budget not to spare too much while enjoying your stay.

Stop playing hide and seek with reality bro, there is no form of skills tactics or tricks that will make you successful in gambling. It is all about the luck and that is all. Even if you want to apply some skills, with most part of it you are still making blind decisions with an expectation for the best, but if you get yourself so much in that mindset and anticipation for the winnings when it comes to gambling, you will get screwed pretty fast that you will eventually hate yourself for it.

What the OP said sounds realistic, and it is always better for anyone to at least, try as much as possible to have the mindset that would help them control their impulses when it comes to gambling.

It is also important for gamblers to have a strategy, a tactics, a skills, that is obvious they can do tricks and  bluffs that is usual for gamblers since it is a great and oldest trick in the book especially poker which is quite popular.

Even so, even with skills, experience and strategies that you've done, if you are not that lucky, you might not be that successful there. Luck is a huge factor on gambling and let's be honest, that is the reason why there is such things as a beginner's luck. Even without any gambling experience, skill and strategies, with beginner's luck, you can win against great gamblers.

I agree that gambling is base on luck most of the time. There are some gambling games that need to have strategies but sometimes we need them both at the same time. Luck is the main key for us to win in gambling because gambling always depends on our luckiness in life. No one can control the result of our gambling games.

I really do wonder and I wonder why the guy will even be considering profit from trading as dead money.
This is a money you took your time to get based on your knowledge and experience, and blowing it all away into gambling, while considering it as dead money sound absurd to me.

In this case, trading should even be seen as a job and a profession and people who really do not take it for granted, will not in any way see it as money they could just blow away. Like you said, and adding to it, in life it is all about being smart and anyone who ends up having mentality like ocid, it usually does not end well most of the time for people in those category.

Mind set every one will not be same some may think trading is the best option for them and some may consider gambling is their choice but it is completely belongs to investor who is preferring gambling or trading.
If you ask me which one is the best for you. I don't hesitate and directly goes to gambling only since I love to do betting with bitcoin and even with fiats.
If you are good in analysis you will be able to rock in gambling.

I dont disagree with you. In fact you have a big point in your theory but the exception to this is not all gambling are enjoyable. Lotto for instance is not fun, not all betting is fun so for someone to be willing to let go of their money they must choose game which would really make them enjoy so whether they win or lose there will be nothing to regret as long as they enjoyed.

Truly speaking those people actually passive begging being a crybaby who seems like they lose all their money. Heck its a casino and if you cant handle your money you should not be there at all. Liberalists are like that and they wont show any care for chatroom rules about passive begging and when questioned by mods, they will become defensive saying that they were never begging at all. Quite the jokers. ::)

Maybe because they are desperate or they dont care about the money.

Cant reason with brain dead weedwhores who after making some money from trading enter the casino smoking a joint (and their brain) and posting bullshit.

Lotto is one of the gambling games that I will never try. Due to the fact that the possibility of me winning is so small that I'd rather be hit by a lightning than hitting the jackpot, this can also be proven using a mathematical solution of probability. Also, I agree that it is not really fun, I mean you are just putting a number, hope you win and if not you go again the other day unlike games on casino where in you are being surrounded by people having fun and being excited to lose their money, well, I am being realistic.

I disagree with the theory, watching movies and playing gambling are different things. watching the movies is of course to get fun and that is for sure, even though both of them watch movies and gamble are both spending money to start enjoying it too. But in gambling we cannot be purely just to get pleasure, because gambling is basically to make a profit.

I agree with you that indeed we have to come to the casino like when we will come to the cinema, which is to enjoy the game and leave. therefore bringing capital right with self control is very important.

Controlling the mind is difficult in every aspect, even in the gambling game. But once we can control our mind, then it will become easy to prevent something wrong that might happen to us. It will needs practice every day, and it's not just in gambling games but in our life too.

With controlling the mind, we can think about something wrong and something good, so if somehow we are in a bad situation or conditions, we can get a way to solve the problem. And related to the gambling game, if you can control your mind, you will not become addicted to gambling, and you will know how much money you use to gamble.

But the fact is there is very little capital involved in profit. The major loss is on the side of the player and not the casino. So thinking of any profit at all is a fools dream. While in case of movies and all, its another form of entertainment and a separate thing altogether. You can pay for your movie time but again most people today are just pirating it, so comparing gambling as a mode of entertainment to movies is a bad comparison.

Now one can get addicted to watching movies, but that short lived. Movies dont give you the drive that gambling does and thus people move away from it easily.

If you think gambling is to make profit than I have some bad news for you. In reality the gambling you do is not to make profit, it is to keep you entertained however because of the house edge in all games there is no possible way for you to win in gambling, not in the long run. You can of course bet once and make a lot of money and get out however if you keep playing long enough time than house edge gets corrected and you lose it all including your initial capital.

Hence, do not gamble to win money, never do that, you will lose. Gambling is EXACTLY like going to movies, you go to a casino (or open an online casino) and spend money to have fun there, just as you would pay for a ticket to go to a cinema and watch a movie. The only difference in gambling you may get out whenever you want but in a movie you usually wait until the end.

Ofcourse, you going to the casino should bring with you your capital or else you will be useless in a sense that money should be brought in that place. But unlike cinema, you can expect some gains in casino if you got lucky.

This is a good idea but i think it would be hard for gamblers to follow it since most of the gamblers are expecting good profits or returns when they come out from casinos.Many have been addicted to gambling because of this belief.But if we will only gamble for an entertainment,then gambling addiction and big losses will not really happen.

It is very easy to advice to say to do this and that to get rid of gambling addiction by doi g this and that but this advice won't work for even on 10% gamblers.

Gambling addiction starts by first playing for fun but when you lose high you start to this k how you lost and then you do more gambling and then this way you become addicted to gambling in recovering you're loss.

So the theory is that everything is on gamblers will to kill his full investment or forget the loss and leave with what left and live happily

But at the same time, even though it is difficult, when you know what is at stake and the effect it could have on your being, one way or the other, you will just have to want to make it work.

Mind game is one thing you have to be able to sort out first, which is always the center of attack most time when it comes to gambling impulses, but as long as you have been able to settle your mind with the idea that this is just a fun thing you are paying for and you even have the chance to decide how much you want to pay for it, and it sometimes even comes with incentives if you are lucky, you will not end up putting so much attention on things you should not.

All we can do is only advising other people, and it depends on that person how he can accept the suggestion. And if he can think that the suggestion can help him to solve the problem, then he should try the suggestion so at least, he can solve his problem. But maybe he cannot listen to the suggestion and continue and makes another mistake. Gambling addiction is complicated to solve unless that person wants to quit from gambling forever so he can save his money for another thing.

Since I have been gambling, although it is not something that happens every time, but generally, I have always seen things this way with gambling. One thing is that whether you like it or not, loss is something you can definitely not do without and you just have to find a way to accept that beforehand, which if you do not, you will be so surprised at the way you will get to find yourself in the wrong side of things most of the time. It sounds a lot realistic as long as you want to be able to at least, have some mindset that you should not take gambling more than fun.

The only person who can solve the problem is the person themselves. If they are not determined to stop gambling then nobody can stop them. Being determined also needs constant support from the members of the family and friend circle. If the problem is in the peer group of gamblers then they should leave that group for the time being.

That is why we cannot do anything other than motivate others not to get addicted. It should be kept under control and scrutiny. Then again its not possible to keep watch on such a person unless they are in a rehab home.

This happens with all the addictions as well, how many people enjoy doing recreational drugs and they say to themselves that they are doing it only for the fun and then months later you find out that they are completely addicted, so for those that cannot control their gambling it is better they do not gamble at all or they could risk deceiving themselves and realizing too late that what they thought was a way to get some fun has become their whole lives.

Yes, and I think some of them doesn't have a brave to tell the members of the family that they are playing gambling or even they are addicted person in gambling. And this makes them keep secret their addicting to other people, so they don't have a way to solve their problem.


We can always remind them to stay away from gambling, and if necessary, we must be on their side every day so we can watch and know what his activity and he know that we are in his side to help him to solve the addicting in gambling problem.

The addiction with drugs is much more violent specially if its habit forming and has physiological dependence. Even trying to tell them that its bad will make them rage and they will go into aggressive mode. These people are so fond of their poison that they would never realize the truth that its killing them and it certainly hurts their near and dear ones.

Accepting the fact that they are addicted is the first step to getting rid of the addiction. Its tough but if they are able to do it and their family is supportive then there is a ray of hope in them.

Well  about the theory i guess thats the best way to consider the gambling habits

As I believe that playing gamble must be for fun only and enjoyment,and not for profiteering we have to be thankful that we have fun while we are playing,and if we won then thats just a bonus

This is my mindset whenever i want to play,and luckily because of this attitude i never become addicted and just enjoying the very moment I played

If only you could make people think like that, but you can't. When people think about playing in a casino it makes them think of the money. The thought of winning money without having to work or put an effort is too tempting. There's a reason why most profitable casino games are the ones that don't require any knowledge or skill like slots. They lure people in and make them lose small money which they don't even notice but if a casino has 100 machines and 1000 people play there every day it's a large profit.

Movies and gambling are a pretty pair to compare my friend. We dont go to movies just to have fun, we do learn a lot from them and appreciate the work of art. Gambling compared to it is a place to try your luck. Yeah both need money to get access to but both are not things that you can compare. You will definitely not go to watch a movie everyday because you are addicted to it - because not everyday a good movie that gives you that taste is made. But gambling is the same everyday.

Good, keep it that way and make sure to take breaks. ;)

People start playing gambling for fun and enjoying theirself for the relaxation
But in the end need to accept gambling isn't for fun it is a game of fear to assume to got lucky win playing gamble

Yes, and not all gambler can do this as it will be difficult to tell our family that we are addicted to gambling. But if they have a strong mind to quit gambling forever, they must do this, and I think their family will understand the situations and their family will help him to stop and leave gambling. And with support from his family, I am sure that soon he can quit gambling and he can get the productive time with his family.

Gambling does not depend only on luck but as a mathematician would say depends also on the house edge and the programming of slot machines and online games like roulette and dice.

Even in sports betting nothing goes as we try to predict even when we place a bet on a team with 1.15 odd that is playing at home. This because we don't take into counter the referee of the game, in soccer games I think the impact of the referee is at least 30-35% and that is a big factor now. Nothing is as it look on gambling for me.

No. They start playing with the objective of making money. Face it, people do gamble for money and not fun. Fun is just another excuse to hide their true intentions and make them look gullible. Its not bad for them or that they will be judged, but lets be practical here.

Its a game of chance thats all. If you dont get luck on your side then you will lose money.

Actually the person who is addicted might also not have a supportive family. Its becomes more difficult for them then. Moreover it has been seen that such social evils are more in broken families and problem families.

I appreciate your theory and your ideas on how to stop ADDICTED people from gambling, change their ways and their mindset, however, I don't think that it is enough though, people will still gamble just to get their joy out of that certain thing, but I think that your idea is pretty good and I think it can ease gamblers from risking too much, I like the theory and the idea, hope it can help out atleast some of the people.

Most gamblers who are already addicts even find it hard to tell themselves the truth when it comes to the fact that they are addicted. When you tell them, the response always is, I know what I am doing and I am not addicted. Only those around them will always see it. I have lived with one before back then in school and it was always a thug of war for him.

It is a lot realistic when you already know gambling will ruin you if you do not manage to control yourself and the best way to do that, is to at least fashion your mindset in such a way that you do not lose that control just in a way the OP mentioned.

I'd say its 50/50 people gamble because of wanting to occupy some time, have some fun and of course maybe get lucky.   The tempting part is to rely on the idea of winning which is never sure and is a bad expectation.   I think most people start off just interested not expecting too much, the tricky part is even after winning realising you cant rely on it to last or repeat that well every time


Sounds very sensible, the wins are just a bonus but we arent all sensible all the time  8)

I agree, not all gambling is enjoyable, some gambling games are also stressful to us, LOL because sometimes we are thinking how we can win that kind of game because some gamblers really want to get the prize/jackpot.

Well, of course everyone is different in a way, but I absolutely agree with the OP regarding the majority of gamblers. People you are talking about are in the minority, if they exist at all. Yes, surely there are those for whom gambling is a hard work, but I think their vision of the process as of such that "the hard work pays off" is a delusive one. If they win, they win because of luck, not because of their hard work. And if they lose, they lose because of bad luck, not because their strategy doesn't work, because all strategies are pretty much the same regarding the outcome, and they either work or don't work interchangeably.

I think some people are just born with a more addictive personality which causes them to get easily hooked on gambling.  It isn't exactly the same but alcoholics tend to follow the addiction pattern of their other family members so we shouldn't put too much blame on individuals.  Quite frankly, as long as they aren't harming other people I don't see a problem with it.

Well sometimes they can't help themselves. Other people like friends and family members will eventually be dragged especially if the gambler has lost all reasoning that it compromises financial and family affairs.

The reason we have people to guide us and teach us moral values is to prevent this. People question their elders advice and think they are going to make their own rules but they soon realize when they harm themselves that they should have listened. Its the same for any habit you know. Being born with something that is bad is not bad, if you have the determination to take control.

Like I said, you will not harm anybody if you are going to keep control. There will be times where people lose control and they need to cautious about it. Same with gambling. If you have control over it you wont hurt yourself or your family.

If every gambler thinks this way, no one will go home with a sad face thinking that they we're robbed by the gambling site. Problem with other gambler is they made gambling their way of life, they make a living out from it, daily they go to casinos or visit gambling sites thinking they can beat the system and get profits.

Rarely people can beat the system else every casino in the world would have being shut down by now as if they do not make money how will they give money on winning it. It is that simple and why people do not understand this that their chances of winning is slim as compared to the house.

Yes thinking like this some of them really lose their money while hopping for earning it, the mistake most of gamblers use to do is they take it for fun not as business and serious way to make money, here you will not rely only on your luck but will have to use skills and knowledge too, but we cannot force anyone just let them make their own decision but really hopping for the good.

We know our capabilities, if we think we are good in gambling then we pursue our goal as that could satisfy us financially.
However, the reality is that most of us are not really good in gambling, that is why we keep losing while operators are enjoying our money.

We have freedom in gambling, we can do whatever we want as long as we have the money to bet but we should be responsible all the time.

The only way to beat the casino is to cheat it. Mathematically it is not possible to run any method to get profit but only short term gains which if not withdrawn quickly would only go back to the cycle of win and loss just to add to the loss. If anybody till date could find a method to beat the casino than the gambling industry would not be alive anymore. But even short term gains are lost easily because people fail to stop after a number of wins.

Those who say they can beat the house of boast about doing so are plain liars.

Addicted people are always harming others... Maybe the relatives, maybe the society.

Surely for most addicted gamblers it will be hard to stop the addiction, because they have a lot of difficult to control their emotions. To see a good time at casino like going to the movies can work for normal gamblers, they understand it and apply it on their lives without harming themselves and those who they love, but I believe it doesn't work the same way for the addicted ones. On the second case it's much more complicated.

Addicted gamblers needs to be treated as it will not bring positive into his life.
By nature, gambling is addictive so we should see that as a risk before we gamble, problem is, most of us only focus on the reward
which is the possible amount we can win, that's why they fail to realize how risky gambling is.

Actually there are few people who did that by some cheating methods but they were never allowed to eter into casinos because they can bankrupt their bankroll if they are continue to play there,I don't know which is true or not but I read that while I am scrolling newsfeeds.But in reality there is no way to win in long term other than cheating.

Agree. The thing with a lot of people is that they do not want to face reality and it seems when they get burned, they simply just want to lead people into the same ditch they fell into and then deceive them into thinking they can make shit load of money from gambling.

At the end of the day, for those who even managed to have won at some point in time, maybe people should go back in time and see how much they must have lost compared to how much they are winning now before judging. Facing reality when it comes to gambling will always be a problem with a lot of people and that is why reasoning with what OP has said, will be a bit hard for them.

Although they are cheating, they still cannot win the gambling games. Perhaps their method will work but it cannot work forever, and I am sure that the owner of the gambling place will know and will fix the problem. Besides that, not all people can win the games especially if they are against the house because the house has the power to beat every player. So we need to understand that whatever we did, in the end, we are only losing the money without any chance to recover and even we will get more losing if we stay for playing the game for a long time.

The addiction to gambling is very serious. When you are very interested in gambling, you will ignore life around you and always on the gambling website every day with the purpose to earn money, but it's impossible. So that if you want to join the gambling, you should arrange the time reasonably to balance between life and game.

Yes it is serious but it is not that kind of serious, maybe in cinemas but not in real life.

There are a lot of gambling addicts every where especially if you have a gambling places close, in our country there are also people that is addict on gambling but not really like what you just said. Cockfighting is one of the most popular gambling in our place or maybe in our country. It is not that bad since the government can control the addiction of it by limiting the gambling times in a week or some days.

Gambling addiction is a serious problem, mostly gambling addicts gamble cause they think they will win one day make a lot of profit and that will earn back everything they lost, when you expect too much from gambling its a way to bottom. Like OP said people should think about gambling like about some fun activity, with no expectations, risk to get addicted to gambling will became very low.

You are misinformed or did not go through the fine print. Anybody who is found cheating a casino would be restricted and the website patched to prevent such exploits again. For those who reveal bugs and such exploits that could be done are also rewarded for the same. Bottom line is if you cheat that you are plain thief and you will be tracked down by the casino owners for punishment as far as possible.

Thats where the problem comes in with anonymous currencies - they are said to be anonymous until people start using that info to track scammers. It not something bad in my opinion.

It's a pretty nice theory, but probably it sounds realistic for me coz I'm not a hard gambler. It's too hard to understand that you are addicted from something and actually from gambling, those persons really need help from family and closer people imho.

I agree with your theory. However, gambling is strictly correlated with the chances of making a profit. There are many kinds of research and studies that show that people who are living in poor societies gamble more. With your theory, this service should be more for the rich people that can afford to pay for this service and eventually have fun. Gambling is a matter of expectations in my opinion, for getting something that is missing from you.

When someone got addicted, he doesn't realize that, but people will see and maybe will tell him that he has a new bad habit. And if that people care with that person, he/she will help that person and will do anything to make him stop from gambling forever. But it's hard to find people like that because not all family will care with one of their members and they are too busy with themselves.

The only thing good about not expecting anything in return is that, you dont feel any stress for the entire game. You see, if the money you brought to game are intended to lose, you will experience fun and if ever you win, you will feel more delightful. Emotions and behavior is all about mindset, but winning is all about luck.

If gamblers would accept the fact that the money they are putting in gambling is for the their entertainment and not for the prospect of making money then if would not be hard to accept the loss for many of them. There are people who gamble for a living and they are rare of find but if you manage to actually talk to them even they would tell you how risky their lives are.

It does help to stop playing for a while when you are in a losing streak and your luck is not playing out and then play again when you are having nothing else to do.

The fact is not like that and even that is difficult to make some gamblers not hunger to their money back, they gamble because there is something that the profit he sees is not just fun. This is what makes everyone an addict, they will always hope to win when betting. And I guess people who gamble are just for fun, so they are categorized as gambling addicts, even though they do gambling once a week.

When you are in that state of mind, all you see is gambling and yourself, you don't listen to people, you also urge yourself to gamble and very positive to win despite not proving on record that you are make it. You get foolish when you are addicted as the only strategy you have is to follow your emotion.

You betrayed your own self in this scenario, so about getting caught on addiction.
The problem is an addicted person knows how to hide their addiction, and when you notice and reach out to them, they might not gonna entertain you.

But I don't think that even though they are still gambling to entertain themselves, they are not hoping to win.

I know that there are a lot of people that gamble for fun, so they can entertain themselves for a short period of time but also they are hoping deep inside them that they can win a lot of money. It might be a possibility but that don't work always for every gambler.

The fun is what the casino owners want. They want the rollers to feel like its their home. Its a part of their marketing strategy to keep the people happy and make sure they stick around and not go away. They are there to give room to your addiction and willingness to take risk. People call it fun because its entertaining them but they have to do it for a price obviously.

The addicted gamblers do have to stop once they run out of funds and this often leads to anger outbursts either due to frustration or due to being high on drugs at the same time. ;D

This is more like an observation, not a theory

Anyway, most people gamble for the joy of it. The ones that are in exclusively for profits rarely become addicts as after suffering losses (and likely suffering even more losses again after they first disagree), they walk away having finally understood that it is impossible to beat the casino if only by luck (if we are talking about dice or similar chance-based games). In other words, future addicts don't see themselves as addicts. In fact, not even all accomplished addicts admit to have an addiction

Many gamblers who suffer from gambling addiction try to think that way, that they are paying the casio. to use their games and to have some fun. However I have seen a colleague of mine who tried to quit gambling by playing free simulators in the internet , Gaminators and Hot fruits simulators and told me , this is it, now I can quit gambling easily.

The reality though was that after playing with simulators for one week he then got to the casino and lost a big amount.The only true way to quit is to ask professional help.

playing gambling simulators or video games that are related to gambling can be a good idea to quit the actual/real gambling .  other example is vape ,  vape use by people to quit smoking and survey says that it is effective though some are still going back to thier old bad habits  . those guys really need to seek a real professional help if ever they want to stop thier addiction  .

To avoid addicting in gambling just play it for fun and to enjoy not to make miney or source of income, set control greed time limit and specially set how much amount ready to lose.

Sooner or later pleasure (just for fun when gambling) will bring you to become an addict.

Maybe you have not been able to distinguish between addicts and things that you like, actually it's the same.

For everyone who says 'I play gambling just for fun' then you can call him as a gambling addict.

setting priority might help. In this way it could be minimize especially if you are also a kind of an individual that is responsible and respect. I have done this already and basing on experience I only bring money to gamble not to the extent that I have to brought all of my allowance. This will help me to control myself whe  in doing gambling. My wife know this and sometimes she will be happy to see if I  winning. Yet, she is always sad because I always lost. LOL however losses are just minimal.

Easily one gets addicted to gambling, because the winning one has experienced through gambling will let the user stay active into gambling. One cannot get winning results all the time, periodically loss happens, and the user will keep himself engaged into recovering the loss. This is the beginning of an user getting addicted, very few understand the reality of losses happening with gambling and try to get out of the same.

This is the possibility that we cannot neglect in gambling, we are close to addiction especially if we are ambitious enough and we do not work with our mind, instead we use our emotion too much. There is no room for weak people in gambling because although it's just a game and an entertainment but we cannot deny it's a high risk activity.

If what he says is what he does then I guess there's no problem with that, a person is only called addicted if he will engage in gambling with lack of control.

The theory is good and sounds like better,but the problem is people are being encouraged by others to gamble or just to even try betting,and we all know that at first most of newly entering gambling are awarded by luck,and all of a sudden after a while when you turns serious in this field then the losses will come

This is the fact and i believe is also true sine its my own experience ,its really good to tell our self that we are paying casino just to give us fun,but we cant take it from a gambler to expect winnings everytime they played right?

Yes theory will always not works when we are making profits with our strategy are some tricks we can be happy to make profit but the next time the same thing will not work this will be the main problem for all gambling people so playing things is good but depending upon something will not be good.

Becouse of the greed in us it is very difficult to play casino or gambling as fun.  We have profits making in our minds before investing into any of the things that give us profits.  Remember that traders has the same mind but I think we should take gambling and betting serious than looking at it as fun.

Yes, that is what happens with us, our passion will become bigger because we want to chase the win money. It becomes too dangerous when we depend on the emotion because we can not see what's happening in the round table because our mind will full of chasing the money only.


I am sure that there will be a time for us to know the problem in the addicted person, no matter if he tells us or not. It's about feeling or emotion about how we can know that problem. It's like if you are with somebody and your feeling say that he/she has a problem but he/she is not telling you about the problem, but you know it.

For some people, this may work. It depends on how do you see the casino you are playing. If you are more focused on the profits that you gain (even if these profits are fake) then you have a problem, like your friend. If you are focused on the procedure and not in the amount that you want to accumulate then you can find a way of not losing your money. I think this solution doesn't have application to all gamblers.

Yes you are correct it differs for each and every people some people will get profit from this idea but some people will not be like that because gambling is always mysterious thing we can I do any tricks for this.

We have heard that at the end, the bad result mostly will come to gamblers addict. Based on that, if we focus on the profit we want to achieve in gambling then we can end up like most gamblers have. We should be wise if we want to enjoy gambling as long as possible. Paying small money won't hurt us to enjoy gambling game services. So, comparing gambling with watching movies on cinema sounds realistic for me. Treat gambling as a way to have fun only and never try to solve our financial problems or to get rich from gambling.

thats what im doing . i only treat gambling as a kind of entertainment to pass the time and to enjoy because it gives me a different kind of thrill compared to when i play video games or watch movies on the web   but i dont get ever addicted to it because i only allocate a sufficient amount of funds  everytime i step in into the gambling entrance   .

 but my neighbors and some of my family members treat gambling as oppose to what i do . they play because they want to win badly . i feel so bad about it but i dont confront them because i dont want to hurt their feelings  .

i like what you're thinking but at some point gambling is fun when you're winning but when you're starting out then loses all the time? i don't think you'll get addicted to gambling. it's fun if you're having fun and won but if you're stakes are getting bigger and starting to sell things and owe money, well, the person is addicted. Especially on the thought that he/she can bring back what he/she loses that's why he/she will still gambling thinking that he/she will win and get even.

It is fun both ways, not only when you are winning but also when you are losing. The key point is not to place big bets. If you do this mistake then of coure you will get addicted because you will try and think every day who you are going to get your money back and you will play and continue play until then. But guess what, the possibilities of taking them back are too little.

I guess the neighbors and relatives of yours got no jobs or a more decent means of earning money? I might be wrong but it's true that unemployment is one of the causes of gambling addiction.

Well, it's up to you if you will confront them or not but for me it's much better if you tell them what you noticed. Choose to tell the hurtful truth than tolerating their bad deeds. They need serious help and your simple advice already means a lot. Are you having fun even when losing? I can't understand why.

We are all get into this field by saying anything so gambling will comes to us in our childhood days it will not erase from our mind it will leave till when you will ask the money in the gambling field otherwise it will not came out from you.

Which is common with gambling addicted person's, they tend to continue trying to catch up their loses, as they keep continue playing thinking that they are doing it to satisfied their lust of winning, the enjoyment and excitement commonly the reason of being addicted to such activities, those who engaged too much are the people who are prone to this issue.

How can you enjoy losing? i think what you're saying is that you're not enjoying it but you are challenged to win what you're lose that's why you keep on playing and playing. It's hard to enjoy when you're losing especially when it involves money.

Maybe because he’s ready for the risk, and he don’t want to gamble for money but for a more entertainment game. I have to agree that those who don’t have job are more prone on gambling, its also happening in my place where you can see people gambling in every streets. Confront them in a good way, and in a simple way so they can understand it well.

If I were her, I will tell the bad things because I really love them and I don't want to lose them. No matter if it will hurt them and makes them don't want to know me more, I don't care. As long as I can try to remind them and if necessary, I will help them to leave gambling because I don't want to see they become addicting.

Maybe it's because she could still play in many times she wants while she still has money. But I hope she will know that sometimes, we need to quit the game as soon as possible especially if we don't make any winning.

This is a gambling section means everything will be involving money so theres no difference in what he enjoys of not.but you are right when you said its hard to enjoy while losing but thats the feeling gamblers always wanted to feel to continue playing the adrenaline to win ..

And thats part of betting in gambling to lose or win and the challenge is what made the players wanted to come and back

One of the ethical problem of gambling is health issue among others, so, for a gambler to be balance along health wise when gambling he/she must be happy even if the games is against him/her in order to balance the side effect by be happy. This is one of my helping tools in gambling and even in real life situations, it helps, try it out today and thank me tomorrow.

Gambling attracts lots of people very easily and it will remain our life in our surrounding because a lots of things are to be seen by us in our daily life and gambling will give lots of profit this quote will be in our mind this is the reason that people to be interested in gambling and get easily addicted to it.

I realized that if people can enjoy it while losing that means they're rich? to the point that you don't mind losing your money because you're rich, unlike people who worked hard to earn money they will not enjoy gambling when they're losing or going broke, that's why lots of people get addicted to gambling because they can afford to lose and gamble just for fun.

Everyone is not gambling just to loss but everyone should accept the fact that losing is most likely what will happen to them due to the house edge and if he understands that then I guess it's not easy to enjoy it, one will enjoy if he stays with his limit, not putting all his money is the right strategy and it will not affect our life after gambling hours, if we stick and give our full time, then we will get addicted most likely.

Not all gambler of course, because some of them are just really want to have fun even if they are not rich. You don't need to become rich for you to be able to gamble, there's a lot of games that don't need huge amount of capital especially in the carnival. A lot of people are addict simply because they are having a hard time to control themselves from playing, they can afford to gamble but their life is soon to be destroyed so it still risky. 

Actually we are talking about the psychology of each player and it must be different, some are happy even though they lose because they are only looking for fun, but some are sad because they lose even though they are also looking for fun in gambling. I agree, the point is whatever your goal is, you have to accept losses or win, because that will definitely happen to every gambler

Not all gamblers are do gambling just of having fun and so accept losses always but for their goal is to win the game every time. Not all the time we've been lucky and win but somehow we loss by then. We have only 2 possible outcome when we gamble either losing or wining, and we accept what ever happen everyday. 

When one is not actually playing gambling and just planing to play, he would think things like not to place big bets, play sensibly, take out profits and so on.
But then once the person is actually start playing, he gets out of his mind and lot of factors make him take wrong decision which eventuality result in his lose on gambling.

I get now the point of big gamblers, like me i'm not that into big stakes, and just this morning i placed bets on both side of the team not really thinking i just rely on the odds and the teams, i both placed bets on max stakes. just to know what it feels like to really gamble, i think that the point of gambling is to be ready if you'll lose or win, bacause it's gambling everybody wins everybody loses.

What is the point to bet on both teams? I mean you are losing with that in any result. You can only win if you do it in different betting websites where there is a variation of odds and probably you can arbitrage and make a profit. Apart from that, when you stake your bets a lot indeed you have a feeling of a big gambler and you can feel the stress and excitement at the same time.

And if that person ready to accept whatever the result, he will not become curious or wants to play more and more because he knows that it's not guaranteed for him to win. After he accepts the result, he only needs to focus with the game and forget everything, and maybe with doing that, his luck will come, and he can win in the next round.

There is no point on betting both the sides,literally you are going to be losing more money since in sport betting the winning amount is not that huge when compared to bet amount you will nearly can get 50% of invested capital so you are going to be lose only after the match.

I just tried it cause i read at other forums that some gamblers did that but i realize that i won't profit if the underdog didn't win.

Actually there is a point for that, and I'm going to explain it with an example. There is a football game today, CSKA Moscow vs Molde FK , and the payouts are: 2.00 and 4.45 respectively. So in case of betting on both teams you are going to lose nothing in the case CSKA Moscow wins, and you are going win some money if Molde FK wins. You will lose both of your bets in the case of a tie though, but specifically because this option, betting on a tie, exists there is a point for betting on both teams.

Yeah you are right that people start to play with the objective of making money but this is the majority and not the totality

because there are some of them that being encouraged to play just for socializing meaning to enjoy and have fun

i have a cousin that works in a company in which the bosses are gamblers and weekly he was invited to play with them and hes enjoying the company and the winning is just for bonus not for intentions

Is it right to bet on both sides by max stakes? or the right way is to bet on both sides by same amount of money?
https://imgur.com/jMumLxM this bet was made in vodds (https://vodds.com/)

In the case I described it's better to bet the same amount of money on each side, or otherwise you are risking to lose some amount (although maybe you can win more in case you are lucky). But remember that even those bets are not totally risk-free, you can lose both of your bets in the case of a tie. What is really pointless, is betting on team1, team2 and a tie between them.  :)

If you bet on both the teams, you will lose in the End. The reason is that even if you will confirm win the one bet, the other win definitely be a loss. The Bet you lose will be a 100% loss while you will normally with certain percentage like 30%, 50% etc. Unless you win 200%, you will lose some money in this case.

that bet was in asian handicap, in 1x2 bet i only bet with that if i'm certain about the team. only the draw is the lose point.

It would work if you only lose a very small amount but in the long run, you will realize that your losses are getting when you add it all up and that is going to drag you in having a gambling addiction.  And casino is not the best place to have fun because there's a lot out there that is much better that that.

It is difficult to win 200% unless you place a big capital. I don't think if it's work if we place the bet in both of the teams, but maybe when team A can win, we can win some money, while in the team B, we are losing some amount too. Maybe our loss will not too big depends on the win money but my suggestion is only placed in the team which we already know that the team can win from the opponent.

I tried that bet on vodds (https://vodds.com/) and bet with the same amount on both teams, luckily the underdog wins so i profit 785 the odds is 2.570. if the other team wins i lose 215.

No one can guarantee us to win in gambling or any kind of gambling games. It really depends on how we will accept the result of our every gambling games. Sometimes even if how much focus we make in games it will not guarantee us to win, most of the time gambling is more on luck so don't expect anything with gambling.

What if we put a bet on one team with more money as compare to bet on the other team with less amount of money ? Also the bets are not 100% or 50%, they vary for each team. If one is sensible enough to figure out calculations, maybe there is a way where the loss is impossible when we put bet on both sides. However the profit percentage will be very low in any case.

So you're lucky to win $785, and in this case, you be the lucky person in that game. But I hope that the next bet, you can get more big winning so you can get more money.



Yeah, it still depends on how good our luck in that games and how good we choose the games as a way to win the money. By accepting the result, we can let it go if somehow we are losing the money and we can try in the next days and who knows, we can get that money, and of course, we can get the profit too.

in that kind of betting it's for people like me who does not bet big amounts, also it's for people who wants to lose a little not the whole stake and also wants only to earn, in gambling there's always a risk of losing. it's just like money line at some point? where you put 130 to win 100.

You can't be sure if you don't know what you are doing, not a hundred percent makes assurance but to have a chance to win cause you work on it.  May our luck give the good result but dont expect that you're not doing anything and you'll win. Gambling is a combination of luck,  hard work and self reliance to win the game.

As long as we have luck, we can win every game. But unfortunately, we cannot know when the luck will come to us so we could only play again and again. And if somehow, we are losing the money in several times, then it means we need to know that our time to quit is coming and we must stop the game. So by knowing the right time to stop is the best things we can do to prevent to become an addicting person in gambling.

Well, I was surprised to know that this thing, like other games is addictive. Totally agree with your suggestions. People need to see gambling as means to have fun not a means to make money. I guess this will help solve some of the addiction problem.

This theory of yours doesn't seem realistic to me because gambling most time is for earning and not for fun as you propose. Allow me to say this; gambling for money is the only means you can earn from gambling else gambling for fun as the primary aim will never generate money from that fun. So, gamble as if you want money and the end result will surely be profitable.

Even how good we want someone to be yet this is not enough in each of everyone,we can apply things to our self but not with others.gambling has been a problem even befoe our grand great parents was born and believe me addiction is sickness and not a behavior..there are some instances that gambling addiction turns to criminality just like what happen in the Philippines couple of years ago when a gambling addict killed dozen of people in casino.but this is a good theory and much better if will be applied by gamblers to prevent becoming addicted

I hope so, and people need to have a way to solve the problem in gambling because their life is worth than just playing gambling. They need to prevent from playing gambling every day because, in the end, they become addicted. It is better to get fun in the gambling games rather than to become addicted. But that is your option and only you that can decide, and you need to make the right decision.

But we can teach them what is right and wrong and help them make decisions. That is what a forum is for. People can talk and discuss among themselves to come to a change in mindset. :)

Addiction becomes a sickness at times if you allow it to become so and make it the only thing you are obsessed with. This should be controlled and I feel every person is capable of doing so.

Average person in PH is a more or less belonging to the low income strata. Not having a proper job and economic instability are the reasons people turn to other methods of money making which are often risky. That cannot be generalized to other people.

The increasing needs and life standard also compel people to find the shortest way of making money, which even they know can be more risky, but still they try to take the risk and become rich in no time, but only few people can become successful there, while most of the people even loses everything they have.

Absolutely mate,and besides its a once in a million chances for us to become successful in gambling while the rest fails not only their assets and money but sometimes losses also their lifes

The problem that commonly been done by a irresponsible gamblers, instead of treating this venue for relaxations and fun they use the channel
trying their luck to have an easy access to fortune, ending up suffering with more problems that will lead them to addictions or depressions.

Not even few can be rich because the chances of making win from gambling is less but more people managed to do that but the problem is they are gambling again with the money they have won which results them in losing all the winnings with the initial amount they have used for betting.

i am more with this kind of approach towards gambling.
because the reason of "doing it for fun" is really not true at all, for most of us.
 and yeah, it takes strong willpower to do it or can i use your word sheer?
and you alone should commit to this decision.
 most people fail in that aspect. we are human and very weak.
i do admire individuals who can quit from their addiction, not only in gambling alone. so many types of human addiction that hard to treat even with professional help.

I believe there are few who can do that, of course not everyone are loser in gambling, otherwise people won't be interested anymore in playing it.
Why gamblers still gamble because of the challenge within, sometimes we win and sometimes we loss and it's very entertaining when we are challenge at the same time.

 I am a gambler myself and I can't say I keep winning but I make sure I keep having fun everytime I do.

Thats a very dark opinion to make. Not sure which countries you are referring to but the 1st world has what is known as Social security. But I can see how not having that simple allowance can end up making people turn to wrong things just to make ends meet.

Its properly said that if you are not willing to control your addictions you will end up dead. Same with gambling for the addicted gamblers since they try to make big wins but mostly add upto a loss only. Taking a risk is not bad but there should be a limit to the risk. Moreover those people who are not having the logic to understand these things should not gamble because they are the ones prone to get addicted.

The one that stands out to me is the gambler who loses tries to win back what they lost and try to do it in a short amount of time. Thus betting more than before and if they lose at this attempt they try it again but with a larger amount. And the cycle continues until they have lost much more then they can afford to lose.
This to me is how addiction starts in gambling.
Being so irresponsible as you have just mentioned these gamblers are with their initial bank roll.

You cannot compare gambling and casino with movie watching etc. You pay for the movie and then enjoy it for some 2 hours. You do not enjoy by placing your money in gambling game and losing in a matter of seconds. Gambling is played with the aim of getting quick money and I don't think people only play it for Fun only.

That's true, you don't loss watching movie because you won't watch it if you don't want it, that's called quality time spending.
In gambling, you are risking your money to win, if you loss then I don't think you'll get the entertainment you are looking, unless you are a lot of money to waste.

If anyone uses their brain and think about it , they would know that rather than doing good it harms you in the end if you continuously keep gambling for the long time . But if you gamble for fun it should be fine as you will be in your limits .

For me yes. It do sounds great and the idea is what I usually set up in my mind whenever I do want to play gamble. Together with that idea in my mind, I only set up betting small amount of money to help me think that if ever I loss, it is just a small amount that at least I have fun and challenged, at the same time feel that intensity of playing gamble. It is really the right mindset that we are paying for playing to be entertained nothing more, nothing less. The winning part must be taken as a bonus you can earn for having fun and that's all. That is what I literally do whenever I play into an  online casino (https://to.crwd.cr/smtm) enjoying variety of games at the same time their great bonus for doing my first deposit.

Of course, they'll aiming for that but not of thinking quick money.
In some cases a group of people/friends do gambling just for fun but to win in there is somewhat just a luck for us. We can think we should win cause it definitely won't have assurance even you spend whole day in gambling, most probably many were losing that of winning.

I usually also do the same thing of betting in small amount to enjoy having a great game. Together with some strategic response to make myself have a long game play. Having such a mindset for a gambler really makes him enjoy playing the game and not pressuring himself that he must win to gain profit. The important thing is that you are enjoying what you are doing but always remember to have a proper moderation. I like to know what are those variety of games you have been playing into that online casino you were saying that maybe I could also enjoy.

It does not take long to turn that enjoyment to a game of loss involving money that you cannot hope to recover. Nobody comes to a casino with the hopes of making money - is that statement correct? It is actually incorrect. They come with the pretext of superficial desire to enjoy the game while money making by trying their luck is the deep desire. This is the reason why people cant stop chasing losses - they feel a sense of competition and at that time they cannot use the logic that the house will always win and they continue to gamble despite huge losses.

Indeed. If you are just really up into enjoying and having fun is the reason why you are playing gambling, then settling into low betting games can already satisfy you. Well, there are really lots of variety of games you can play into the  online casino (https://to.crwd.cr/smtm) I am currently into plus enjoy their great welcome bonus for doing your first deposit.

the theory can be lost when you first play, but get a round of wins, and finally lust for a bigger win and finally bet bigger. then you can judge for yourself what will happen. controlling lust is very difficult when gambling.

When people lose a chunk amount of money, they think of recovering it by playing and they get addicted. On the same manner, when they get some good profit, they think of making some more easy passive income and get addicted. That's how gambling addiction works. Ans if someone can control here, he definitely plays for fun only.