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Title: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: ch_mubarak on July 10, 2018, 06:09:09 PM
listing on an exchange can cost from $3m - $10m. i think majority of this amount is payed by the token or coin to be listed. so there a chance of dumping these token by exchnges to their own customer. i think Kucoin is one of them. cause whenever  a coin is listed on kucoin no matter what it get dumped. any one thinking same?   


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: niteroy on July 10, 2018, 07:38:27 PM
Yes, there is such a problem, but many exchanges do this, not just Kucoin. For example, on the Yobit exchange there is a lot of information and how its owners listing shitcoins and are engaged in their pump and dump, earning on their users. Perhaps we should choose exchanges that accept payment for listing in ETH, BTC and then there is a possibility that there will be no such problems with manipulating the price and dropping all the coins of the exchange received for listing?


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: tabas on July 10, 2018, 07:46:50 PM
listing on an exchange can cost from $3m - $10m. i think majority of this amount is payed by the token or coin to be listed. so there a chance of dumping these token by exchnges to their own customer. i think Kucoin is one of them. cause whenever  a coin is listed on kucoin no matter what it get dumped. any one thinking same?   
Before when Kucoin isn't so popular it is lower but when it managed to get more users and traders and gathered  a lot of traffic, they are increasing the listing fee. This same goes for the other exchanges.
No one will sponsor a coin to get listed because they are an avid fan or holder of it and of course that's the job of the coin management itself.


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: wattcrypto on July 10, 2018, 07:47:25 PM
I don't see this problem with kucoin as much. We should be worrying about the big exchanges like binance.

Thoughts on stablecoins like havven for exchanges??


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: tycsols on July 10, 2018, 08:09:19 PM
I do not think this is correct, you cannot single out kucoin here as well, it is just the bear market that is causing the dumps, just check all the ico tokens that were trading on idex in last few months, all are trading like 50-80% below ico prices, so dump has nothing to do with any specific exchange it is due to low volume and interest in market at the moment, i hope volume will be back soon and we will cross 1000 B market cap this year.


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: Kruncha on July 10, 2018, 08:27:24 PM
Because there is a stock exchange traditionally with sellers. But kucoin has many opportunity projects.


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: Bitcoin_Makers on July 10, 2018, 09:30:53 PM
As far as I know, the amount for the listing is paid in Bitcoin or Ethereum and therefore your theory will remain just a theory. Now the bear market and that is why the coins that go to the stock exchange are falling.


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: disconnectme on July 10, 2018, 09:56:59 PM
What you are saying makes no sense, I don't know how much team pay to get listed on Kucoin now, but there are several reasons why I token dumps. I know of Wepower and Storm tokens both listed on Binance with higher exchange listing fee and both are low very downin price. Gochain trade only on Kucoin and has done well for ICO investors. Stop spreading wrong assumptions


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: ashmodeus on July 11, 2018, 10:26:33 AM
listing on an exchange can cost from $3m - $10m. i think majority of this amount is payed by the token or coin to be listed. so there a chance of dumping these token by exchnges to their own customer. i think Kucoin is one of them. cause whenever  a coin is listed on kucoin no matter what it get dumped. any one thinking same?   

not for all i think
actually the real problem is came from the holder,
if the token already got the market, why they sell it quickly.
so , my opinion , the mistake not came from the market.


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: Slimztee on July 11, 2018, 10:53:04 AM
listing on an exchange can cost from $3m - $10m. i think majority of this amount is payed by the token or coin to be listed. so there a chance of dumping these token by exchnges to their own customer. i think Kucoin is one of them. cause whenever  a coin is listed on kucoin no matter what it get dumped. any one thinking same?   

For odd reasons listing coins on Kucoin hasn't always panned out well for most projects that I know of. Coins get dumped there even when the community have the impression that it'll do well. I don't like them and don't trade with them as I consider them a grave dug for coins listed


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: preshpr1nce on July 11, 2018, 10:59:38 AM
Or it's just due to a poor market and ICO holders wanting to take profit.
In this market profit expectations reduce, I'm very happy making 10-30% in this market


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: renes on July 11, 2018, 11:22:07 AM
No coin certainly pay such amount of money to be listef on exchanges even for coinbase that is nonsense. They also probably pay with ethereum they raise.


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: wumBowo on July 11, 2018, 12:20:16 PM
listing on an exchange can cost from $3m - $10m. i think majority of this amount is payed by the token or coin to be listed. so there a chance of dumping these token by exchnges to their own customer. i think Kucoin is one of them. cause whenever  a coin is listed on kucoin no matter what it get dumped. any one thinking same?  
Before when Kucoin isn't so popular it is lower but when it managed to get more users and traders and gathered  a lot of traffic, they are increasing the listing fee. This same goes for the other exchanges.
No one will sponsor a coin to get listed because they are an avid fan or holder of it and of course that's the job of the coin management itself.
i do agree with this. On the first time when Kucoin appear, the coin that listed most of them have a good price and likely going up even though there are many bots trade there (it might because the market were on good conditions before) .


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: ztto on July 11, 2018, 01:46:44 PM
Yes that’s a huge problem with exchanges they Just dump all the coins that they charged for listing  , there should be better alternatives for listing coin where they don’t have to pay that much to mafia , because  that’s whats exchange owners are mobster they are the ones that should Ben getting controlled by governments not crypto


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: bird17 on July 11, 2018, 01:54:50 PM
This principle of work is not limited to Kukoin. I think this exchange can be called a good option for starting the listing.


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: gelinshidong on July 11, 2018, 01:59:14 PM
Not all exchanges are like this? But KUcoin's reputation is really not very good.


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: Ng93 on July 11, 2018, 02:09:08 PM
This is not the only exchange that provides a listing of coins, for coins or bitcoins. Did you really think it would be all free? I am sure that all exchanges that exist they offer similar services with payment for bitcoin or Ethereum. For example, I heard that binance is asking for 5 BTC listing


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: preshpr1nce on July 11, 2018, 02:11:01 PM
Not all exchanges are like this? But KUcoin's reputation is really not very good.

What's wrong with KuCoin? It's one of my favourite exchanges, if it had more volume it would be #1 for me.
Love the interface, has unique coins, most of the Binance pump coins start on KuCoin.

In time it'll be one of the better exchanges I think.


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: celtic99 on July 11, 2018, 02:53:48 PM
listing on an exchange can cost from $3m - $10m. i think majority of this amount is payed by the token or coin to be listed. so there a chance of dumping these token by exchnges to their own customer. i think Kucoin is one of them. cause whenever  a coin is listed on kucoin no matter what it get dumped. any one thinking same?   

I guess its survival of the fittest. Other exchanges will come along and offer much cheaper listing fees and in return they will gain much more popularity and users.

I think kucoin is tired of devs listing shitcoin pump and dumps so they only want serious coins now.


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: 00DKM@ on July 11, 2018, 03:06:03 PM
listing on an exchange can cost from $3m - $10m. i think majority of this amount is payed by the token or coin to be listed. so there a chance of dumping these token by exchnges to their own customer. i think Kucoin is one of them. cause whenever  a coin is listed on kucoin no matter what it get dumped. any one thinking same?   
This is a possibility, but in fact, the devs team or a member of the statistics and analytics team will make specific points about the process of listing the token code. yes, that can happen. It is also a normal move and has its own rules and regulations. I'm sure Kucoin is a lot better than Bancor, Idex, Hitbtc ...


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: makishart on July 11, 2018, 03:48:11 PM
listing on an exchange can cost from $3m - $10m. i think majority of this amount is payed by the token or coin to be listed. so there a chance of dumping these token by exchnges to their own customer. i think Kucoin is one of them. cause whenever  a coin is listed on kucoin no matter what it get dumped. any one thinking same?   
In fact you known nothing about that. I suggest you not to spread the more bullshit about that. It doesn't matter where it gets listed but the hype will be determining the real price of coin. A coin will very big FOMO can generate more than 3x from the ico price. Never try to write anything that you don't even know about that.


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: whiteblue on July 11, 2018, 03:58:31 PM
listing on an exchange can cost from $3m - $10m. i think majority of this amount is payed by the token or coin to be listed. so there a chance of dumping these token by exchnges to their own customer. i think Kucoin is one of them. cause whenever  a coin is listed on kucoin no matter what it get dumped. any one thinking same?   
In fact you known nothing about that. I suggest you not to spread the more bullshit about that. It doesn't matter where it gets listed but the hype will be determining the real price of coin. A coin will very big FOMO can generate more than 3x from the ico price. Never try to write anything that you don't even know about that.
I think is true that's there are payment to enter the market kucoin it must also big. but for payment I don't think using the token itself, it seems to use bitcoin, ethereum or it could be dollars.


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: benedictonathan on July 11, 2018, 04:15:14 PM
As far as I can tell there is really nothing wrong as far the exchange is concerned. It is being practiced by a majority of exchanges and also we need to consider many other factors like the market now and investor behavior. We can't blame everything on the exchange itself.


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: tabas on July 12, 2018, 09:46:02 PM
listing on an exchange can cost from $3m - $10m. i think majority of this amount is payed by the token or coin to be listed. so there a chance of dumping these token by exchnges to their own customer. i think Kucoin is one of them. cause whenever  a coin is listed on kucoin no matter what it get dumped. any one thinking same?  
Before when Kucoin isn't so popular it is lower but when it managed to get more users and traders and gathered  a lot of traffic, they are increasing the listing fee. This same goes for the other exchanges.
No one will sponsor a coin to get listed because they are an avid fan or holder of it and of course that's the job of the coin management itself.
i do agree with this. On the first time when Kucoin appear, the coin that listed most of them have a good price and likely going up even though there are many bots trade there (it might because the market were on good conditions before) .
When an exchange isn't so popular and it's still starting, basically it has few traders but if it has a good platform and they are very active, their value is increasing.


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: hisori on July 12, 2018, 09:51:15 PM
listing on an exchange can cost from $3m - $10m. i think majority of this amount is payed by the token or coin to be listed. so there a chance of dumping these token by exchnges to their own customer. i think Kucoin is one of them. cause whenever  a coin is listed on kucoin no matter what it get dumped. any one thinking same?   

Kucoin is by far not the best exchanges around but it has good reputation to be trusted on. I dont see any problem with kucoin though, I love it and I will continue to support it. by the way, They're having there listing voting competition right now.


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: anthinguy21 on July 12, 2018, 10:41:16 PM
I don't think it's the worst idea when any new token or coin wanna be listed on Kucoin because IMO, I think kucoin is a great exchange and there is no problem with this exchange :). So many good cryptocurrencies were listed on this exchange and so many new tokens went to the moon after being listed on Kucoin as well. You should know that it's not Kucoin's fault cause when a cryptocurrency is really bad so everything will be the same although it's going to be listed on Binance :)


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: cahkalem on July 12, 2018, 11:02:35 PM
personally i never have an issue with kucoin
i think this exchange is good enough, so, maybe the problem is not with the exchange but with the tokens or coins believer it self


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: makishart on July 12, 2018, 11:12:13 PM
listing on an exchange can cost from $3m - $10m. i think majority of this amount is payed by the token or coin to be listed. so there a chance of dumping these token by exchnges to their own customer. i think Kucoin is one of them. cause whenever  a coin is listed on kucoin no matter what it get dumped. any one thinking same?  
Before when Kucoin isn't so popular it is lower but when it managed to get more users and traders and gathered  a lot of traffic, they are increasing the listing fee. This same goes for the other exchanges.
No one will sponsor a coin to get listed because they are an avid fan or holder of it and of course that's the job of the coin management itself.
i do agree with this. On the first time when Kucoin appear, the coin that listed most of them have a good price and likely going up even though there are many bots trade there (it might because the market were on good conditions before) .
When an exchange isn't so popular and it's still starting, basically it has few traders but if it has a good platform and they are very active, their value is increasing.
That's right because those are trading it will try to spread the news to another traders and they are willing to buy that. Remember there is a lot of examples about that.
In fact the result of price depends on the hype of coin itself.


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: vanmoreno on July 12, 2018, 11:24:06 PM
listing on an exchange can cost from $3m - $10m. i think majority of this amount is payed by the token or coin to be listed. so there a chance of dumping these token by exchnges to their own customer. i think Kucoin is one of them. cause whenever  a coin is listed on kucoin no matter what it get dumped. any one thinking same?   
now ku coin have voting for new listing and i think its free, and so many new coin like Kora make this voting like competition on telegram channel...


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: Vispilio on July 13, 2018, 12:15:45 AM
a completely false proposition, what you are suggesting has nothing to do with KuCoin. Almost every new project is getting dumped now as soon as it gets listed on any

exchange because Investors are in a mood of extreme FUD, no doubt influenced by mainstream media. During bullish market sentiments, it has been the exact opposite,

you need to make much a broader assessment of your financial insights.


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: cryptothreads on July 13, 2018, 03:44:36 AM
listing on an exchange can cost from $3m - $10m. i think majority of this amount is payed by the token or coin to be listed. so there a chance of dumping these token by exchnges to their own customer. i think Kucoin is one of them. cause whenever  a coin is listed on kucoin no matter what it get dumped. any one thinking same?   
I think paying just that can be listed on Kucoin and most people are dumping at extremely low prices. This Exchange has had a very low trading volume in recent months as there are no whales here and most of the people here are just for sale and do not tend to buy when an altcoin is listed in this trade.


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: tabas on July 13, 2018, 10:49:30 AM
listing on an exchange can cost from $3m - $10m. i think majority of this amount is payed by the token or coin to be listed. so there a chance of dumping these token by exchnges to their own customer. i think Kucoin is one of them. cause whenever  a coin is listed on kucoin no matter what it get dumped. any one thinking same?  
Before when Kucoin isn't so popular it is lower but when it managed to get more users and traders and gathered  a lot of traffic, they are increasing the listing fee. This same goes for the other exchanges.
No one will sponsor a coin to get listed because they are an avid fan or holder of it and of course that's the job of the coin management itself.
i do agree with this. On the first time when Kucoin appear, the coin that listed most of them have a good price and likely going up even though there are many bots trade there (it might because the market were on good conditions before) .
When an exchange isn't so popular and it's still starting, basically it has few traders but if it has a good platform and they are very active, their value is increasing.
That's right because those are trading it will try to spread the news to another traders and they are willing to buy that. Remember there is a lot of examples about that.
In fact the result of price depends on the hype of coin itself.
Not only about the hype but it's because of law of supply and demand. There are traders that doesn't like kucoin and other exchanges so they are saying such things.


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: soname12 on July 13, 2018, 11:33:44 AM
Kucoin is one of my favorite exchanges. Although Kucoin exchanges are not as popular as Binance and Bittrex. But Kucoin exchanges are very secure and secure. There have been no hacker attacks against Kucoin


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: nickwen on July 13, 2018, 11:36:11 AM
Kucoin exchanges are becoming more and more popular by airdrop programs on Kucoin every time there are new coins listed on this exchange. Your post are inaccurate. I find that the coins listed on Kucoin will often increase in price


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: Greed Dev on July 13, 2018, 11:40:12 AM
I do not care about the price of the penny after being listed on Kucoin. For me, Kucoin is a reputable and secure exchange, and this is my favourite exchange. I think the Kucoin has a better security than Binance.


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: East2011 on July 13, 2018, 12:18:50 PM
Don't single out kucoin. Because there are more exchanges that are more worst than kucoin. And i think its not fault by kucoin if one coin dumped.


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: PayneCharity on July 13, 2018, 12:26:39 PM
Listed on Kucoin exchange is not the worst. Because I invest in 5 different ICO projects. And these five projects have successfully raised capital. But as soon as I was listed on the coinexchange.io exchange, bad things came to me. The price of these coins fell five times compared to the price of the ICO


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: wuvdoll on July 13, 2018, 02:47:16 PM
I don't see this problem with kucoin as much. We should be worrying about the big exchanges like binance.

Thoughts on stablecoins like havven for exchanges??
The whole market itself is actually down and rather than pushing the whole blame on Kucoin as at why the tokens take a huge dip, I guess we focus on things that are much more important. This has been happening recently on every other exchanges with a token hitting the exchange and getting dumped, such as bittrex, binance and the likes.

Kucoin does not have any issue here and as long as the volume keeps growing bit by bit, that is what is important as we really need those exchanges to keep coming to create a more competitive space eventually.


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: St4yInTh3D4rk on July 13, 2018, 03:39:03 PM
Listed on Kucoin exchange is not the worst. Because I invest in 5 different ICO projects. And these five projects have successfully raised capital. But as soon as I was listed on the coinexchange.io exchange, bad things came to me. The price of these coins fell five times compared to the price of the ICO

But this is not problem with the exchange these are happening because of short term investors who invested on that ICO's you were invested.Kucoin is one of the good exchange but not reputed as much other exchanges but I didn't use that exchange personally,but even the reviews of the users were positive/


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: Digital_Lord on July 18, 2018, 11:04:52 AM
I do not think this is correct, you cannot single out kucoin here as well, it is just the bear market that is causing the dumps, just check all the ico tokens that were trading on idex in last few months, all are trading like 50-80% below ico prices, so dump has nothing to do with any specific exchange it is due to low volume and interest in market at the moment, i hope volume will be back soon and we will cross 1000 B market cap this year.

Yes, CBC got listed on bittrex few weeks ago and it got dumped. PundiX got listed on binance few weeks ago and it also got dumped, as well as any other market and any other new token, and I do not know why the OP would have singled out KUCOIN and giving something he cannot even show proof for.

The market is in a huge downtrend and it is normal to see markets take a dip in moments like this, which we all just have to live with.


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: icalical on July 18, 2018, 01:12:21 PM
really depend on the projects, even when coin are listed in Bitfinex, Kraken or other old exchange it will be dumped if their projects suck. The same thing goes when even your coin is not listed in major exchange, maybe it only listed on small exchange like cryptopia or mercatox, but if your projects are legit and solid, your coin will be raise.


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: B.A.S. on July 18, 2018, 01:20:11 PM
Kucoin only uses sales people. But there are projects that I will buy beautifully.


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: pixelvault on July 18, 2018, 01:25:54 PM
Usually when listing on exchanges it costs $BTC not the actual coin you want to list..
So how can this create a dump?



Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: rupesh2 on July 18, 2018, 02:18:40 PM
You may be feeling this things bcoz some of your coins listed on kucoin and did not give expected result . but we can not blame like this without any proof . however yobit exchange can be alleged as i saw many fake or dead projects there are pumped on random days . but on kucoin scenario is different .


Title: Re: why listing on kucoin is worst idea
Post by: Klovezio on July 27, 2018, 07:27:31 AM
Yes, there is such a problem, but many exchanges do this, not just Kucoin. For example, on the Yobit exchange there is a lot of information and how its owners listing shitcoins and are engaged in their pump and dump, earning on their users. Perhaps we should choose exchanges that accept payment for listing in ETH, BTC and then there is a possibility that there will be no such problems with manipulating the price and dropping all the coins of the exchange received for listing?
Yobit sucks, and kucoin is well too. not comparable as far as volume or popularity. I prefer binance and bittex. High security, low trade fee, variety of coins.