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Title: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: teramit on July 10, 2018, 09:11:37 PM Today we can see a lot of ICO struggling for financing, some of them even canceling or delaying. A lot of old Altcoin have seen bottom , new ones even under ico price.
When we look at the history of ICOs we notice they start collecting money like 2016 they rise till the end of 2017 and falling in 2018 just like the btc. It is obvious they follow btc wave. So do not expect too much things from ICOs, tokens, altcoins. There is likely more than a year for btc to gather strength, same for ICOs. Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: mbm_ico on July 10, 2018, 09:15:18 PM Most ICO projects do fall a bit after the stock market, but it seems to me that the main reason is the greed of investors who want to get only profit and they do not care about the technology being created.
Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: Litecoindigger on July 10, 2018, 09:30:49 PM Today we can see a lot of ICO struggling for financing, some of them even canceling or delaying. A lot of old Altcoin have seen bottom , new ones even under ico price. Future development of ICOs really depends on this bear market. Actually there are way too much ICOs and lots of them doesn't reach softcap - means the project is cancelled and in best case the investors are refunded - in best case, it could be even worse. Extensions of ICOs can help to reach softcap but extensions have it's disadvantages, too. When we look at the history of ICOs we notice they start collecting money like 2016 they rise till the end of 2017 and falling in 2018 just like the btc. It is obvious they follow btc wave. So do not expect too much things from ICOs, tokens, altcoins. There is likely more than a year for btc to gather strength, same for ICOs. I also agree that decreasing ICO prices after ICO are really bad for new projects - future investors won't invest in the ICO if they can buy the tokens after ICO for cheaper prices. Another problem is, ICO companys often hold the funds in cyripto and due to bad cyripto prices the value compared to USD increased with falling BTC and ETH prices - in reality the investors invested more money, that the company has now to spend for development and affects in negative ways. All this will dry up ICOs in a harsh way and if we see not soon a bull market again that can reduce trust in ICOs in addition to all the scam ICOs damaged the image already... I'm with you and hope BTC will increase in value, that's the only possibility to "help" ICOs, especially ongoing and upcoming ones. Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: mummybtc on July 10, 2018, 09:31:31 PM Today we can see a lot of ICO struggling for financing, some of them even canceling or delaying. A lot of old Altcoin have seen bottom , new ones even under ico price. When we look at the history of ICOs we notice they start collecting money like 2016 they rise till the end of 2017 and falling in 2018 just like the btc. It is obvious they follow btc wave. So do not expect too much things from ICOs, tokens, altcoins. There is likely more than a year for btc to gather strength, same for ICOs. This could be true. This is what I tell people for now one need to cherry pick projects to invest into, for me it is not just the issue of BTC price not doing well but the quality of valueable projects in the space has decreased significantly everyone just want to hit the market with a project that has nothing in particular to add to the space and people started losing trust in the space Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: batang_bitcoin on July 10, 2018, 09:35:16 PM Today we can see a lot of ICO struggling for financing, some of them even canceling or delaying. They are not struggling financially, they have no real prospect and company to finance so many of them are failing but lucky are those who succeed.A lot of old Altcoin have seen bottom , new ones even under ico price. After it was listed on an exchange, they are dump together with the bounty hunters.When we look at the history of ICOs we notice they start collecting money like 2016 they rise till the end of 2017 and falling in 2018 just like the btc. It is obvious they follow btc wave. So do not expect too much things from ICOs, tokens, altcoins. 2016-2017 is the golden age of ICOs but now isn't anymore.There is likely more than a year for btc to gather strength, same for ICOs. ICOs are likely to fail while bitcoin is destined to be on the top again.Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: ehiozuwa on July 10, 2018, 09:39:29 PM It seem to be the frequent bane of ICOs that soon after launch the prices dip below ICO price.Although some of it is caused by some bounty hunters offloading their tokens,the more important reason is because the general market is bearish.Only a few ICOs beat their ICO currently.
Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: brightamo on July 10, 2018, 09:56:00 PM It is true that when bitcoins price is bearish it affects ICOs prices when they enlist on exchange. Most ICOs recently are facing a tough time of becoming profitable, and about 90 percent of ICOs after enlisting trades far below the price it was during the ICOs phase.
Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: real eyes realize on July 10, 2018, 09:58:57 PM I also think that, expecting something from an ICO till btc to fly is not reasonable. I think this term is a very bad period for the ICOs, because I think it is must be very hard to find investors for them, while everybody is thinking about buying altcoins at low prices.
Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: danherbias07 on July 10, 2018, 10:03:45 PM Today we can see a lot of ICO struggling for financing, some of them even canceling or delaying. A lot of old Altcoin have seen bottom , new ones even under ico price. When we look at the history of ICOs we notice they start collecting money like 2016 they rise till the end of 2017 and falling in 2018 just like the btc. It is obvious they follow btc wave. So do not expect too much things from ICOs, tokens, altcoins. There is likely more than a year for btc to gather strength, same for ICOs. Have noticed that and Ethereum did not escape it also. It was dragged down by the bear market of bitcoin. There is no such thing as a stand alone token by now. I think it will just be Tether but that is because it is USD itself. Other tokens that I have are in blood bath. There are days that I cannot look at it anymore. Maybe I will check it again next month. Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: cryptowolfsu on July 10, 2018, 10:07:58 PM In the first six months of the Year we already have the same number of ICOs like we had the whole last Year with double
amount of gathered money than last Year ( more than $ 13 billion collected for ICO this Year ) The common is that due to bearish market the price drops under the ICO price when coins enter the market. Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: SimonJones on July 10, 2018, 10:13:03 PM Some ICOs are still doing well even in the bear market. Lots of people are flipping ICOs now and not holding for the long term so we need to be careful in the ICOs we get into. A recent one would be Quark Chain.
Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: Traderbtcc on July 10, 2018, 10:27:30 PM Some ICOs are still doing well even in the bear market. Lots of people are flipping ICOs now and not holding for the long term so we need to be careful in the ICOs we get into. A recent one would be Quark Chain. The only icos that are doing good now are hyped ones or the overly hyped ones. Some icos just create fomo in order to sell out. And the ICO space has undergo a lot of changes in recent times. What most team do is to sell huge portions of the available tokens to vc and remain just a fraction of it for the crowdsale. The small reserve for crowdsale is used to create fomo so there will be some demand post-ico on exchanges Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: a2offrb on July 10, 2018, 10:45:30 PM What you noticed is in it's deep sense. From my own observation, I can deduce that some ICO's because of this Dip stylishly defer payment of their Bounty Hunters tokens for the fact that the bearish period shall not favor them at such when payments are made and since the trend of Bitcoin is what most of them relied upon. So, where is the enjoyment coming from for any active member in the field be it investors, miners, stakers or hunters? Unless with minimal turn out and this is even just for those that are very skillful in the various field analyzed. Patience is just the key watch word.
Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: filtyfrank251 on July 10, 2018, 10:50:56 PM Some ICOs are still doing well even in the bear market. Lots of people are flipping ICOs now and not holding for the long term so we need to be careful in the ICOs we get into. A recent one would be Quark Chain. There are so many ICO projects that have been formed and called for capital in recent years, but the number of successful projects is just a small amount, which makes investors' confidence in ICO projects drop. . I believe that everything for the cryptocurrency market has just started and investors can determine long-term investment in this market.Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: Yokonaumiyaki000 on July 10, 2018, 11:00:38 PM Today we can see a lot of ICO struggling for financing, some of them even canceling or delaying. A lot of old Altcoin have seen bottom , new ones even under ico price. Although this is highly probable, not all altcoins solely depend on the price of bitcoin as its base price. When we look at the history of ICOs we notice they start collecting money like 2016 they rise till the end of 2017 and falling in 2018 just like the btc. It is obvious they follow btc wave. So do not expect too much things from ICOs, tokens, altcoins. There is likely more than a year for btc to gather strength, same for ICOs. Altcoins adepends on Ethereum as well, and ETH is also following bitcoin, that's why you can say that ICO's (that are made for altcoins) are also just following the Bitcoin wave. Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: bitkanu on July 10, 2018, 11:01:56 PM Today we can see a lot of ICO struggling for financing, some of them even canceling or delaying. A lot of old Altcoin have seen bottom , new ones even under ico price. At least i have created more than 5x from the icos in this month. the only way to earn through ico is choosing the promising one. The promising project will get a lot of hype from the investors and it could be so easy to be listed on the big exchange site and that will generate a huge profit for us.When we look at the history of ICOs we notice they start collecting money like 2016 they rise till the end of 2017 and falling in 2018 just like the btc. It is obvious they follow btc wave. So do not expect too much things from ICOs, tokens, altcoins. There is likely more than a year for btc to gather strength, same for ICOs. Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: Dreamchaser21 on July 10, 2018, 11:04:27 PM Some ICOs are still doing well even in the bear market. Lots of people are flipping ICOs now and not holding for the long term so we need to be careful in the ICOs we get into. A recent one would be Quark Chain. Yes, some of the ICOs right now are still doing good and succeed on that but since the market is highly volatile now investors usually sold their token easily and even bounty hunters and the result is the value of that tokens becomes less. BTC is really a center of this market, now we are in the red market again after we fail to break the resistance I hope it will not touch the support level again. Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: CaMeRoNy on July 10, 2018, 11:25:28 PM I agree with the author, but it is also worth noting that many ICO are just a Scam, and now only a few ICO can be called relatively good, although throughout 2016 and 2017 there was a very different picture.
Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: darkphoenix2610 on July 10, 2018, 11:31:14 PM Today we can see a lot of ICO struggling for financing, some of them even canceling or delaying. A lot of old Altcoin have seen bottom , new ones even under ico price. When we look at the history of ICOs we notice they start collecting money like 2016 they rise till the end of 2017 and falling in 2018 just like the btc. It is obvious they follow btc wave. So do not expect too much things from ICOs, tokens, altcoins. There is likely more than a year for btc to gather strength, same for ICOs. Agree with this statement they are basing the price of bitcoin as we can see for now lots of ICO delaying the payment of everyone and they will pay before the q3 or after q3 because they choose have a good profit and as you can see many ico was run the dev because they didn't reach their softcap Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: Primal6666 on July 10, 2018, 11:35:27 PM Today we can see a lot of ICO struggling for financing, some of them even canceling or delaying. A lot of old Altcoin have seen bottom , new ones even under ico price. When we look at the history of ICOs we notice they start collecting money like 2016 they rise till the end of 2017 and falling in 2018 just like the btc. It is obvious they follow btc wave. So do not expect too much things from ICOs, tokens, altcoins. There is likely more than a year for btc to gather strength, same for ICOs. My opinion is that tokens and coins need to leave out of the influence of bitcoin. This is not a serious situation. I think that the problem is, too high a bitcoin price. It is not clear to me how one can talk about decentralization, if the whole market can be managed through the price of bitcoins. There is not so much coins that do not fall under its influence. Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: miracle24 on July 10, 2018, 11:36:48 PM Icos is one of the reasons why btc is down till now. New money is not entering the market and the few left in the market, investors are cashing out to invest in the so called shifty icos.
I seriously wished they are banned for life Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: yinoye on July 10, 2018, 11:38:18 PM OP is on point. Most ICOs nowadays are now affected by btc price moment. Many ICOs are extending their period by weeks and are finding it difficult to achieve even soft cap. This year is not favorable for icos and cryptocurrencies in general.
Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: Dextord on July 11, 2018, 03:19:59 AM I agree with your opinion that it has happened and made as learning for the future, and keep positive thinking, better wait until the end of the year when bitcoin prices will get better
Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: yndye on July 11, 2018, 03:35:14 AM Today we can see a lot of ICO struggling for financing, some of them even canceling or delaying. A lot of old Altcoin have seen bottom , new ones even under ico price. When we look at the history of ICOs we notice they start collecting money like 2016 they rise till the end of 2017 and falling in 2018 just like the btc. It is obvious they follow btc wave. So do not expect too much things from ICOs, tokens, altcoins. There is likely more than a year for btc to gather strength, same for ICOs. Most likely this would be the case for most ICOs because there are also ICOs that are not affected by it and reach hardcap because their project can solve a problem that is needed in our society today or in cryptocurrencies market. Some ICOs though that has the same concept as the old ones already launch are having a hard time raising funds because some investors are not keen yet to invest as they are waiting for bitcoin price to recover. Many ICOs last year lost 90% of its value being launch when bitcoin price is high and maybe be able to recover when bitcoin recover itself. Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: Bumidinasty on July 11, 2018, 04:39:56 AM I think so too whether this is a coincidence or indeed a plot like this, I've seen the price when ico is different from the one in exchange, I agree we do not expect too much with ico still keep it and think positive this trend will go up.
Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: linkHA on July 11, 2018, 04:46:22 AM Indeed, this is how the market is doing.
Because the market is not performing well, there is no new capital in the whole market, which is the most important. Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: fiorilia on July 11, 2018, 05:27:25 AM certainly, the descent of bitcoin also gives such great impact for altcoin and ICO. This makes the value of ICO into down distant and not in accordance with the expectations that a lot of people want. Indeed bitcoin down because it has become the annual time. It took one to two years to be able to make a bitcoin high rise again and become more than the previous value.
Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: gucci belt on July 12, 2018, 05:07:41 AM Today we can see a lot of ICO struggling for financing, some of them even canceling or delaying. A lot of old Altcoin have seen bottom , new ones even under ico price. When we look at the history of ICOs we notice they start collecting money like 2016 they rise till the end of 2017 and falling in 2018 just like the btc. It is obvious they follow btc wave. So do not expect too much things from ICOs, tokens, altcoins. There is likely more than a year for btc to gather strength, same for ICOs. In my opinion, there is no reason to expect an increase from Bitcoin when we are not in an optimistic condition. Indeed there will always be a correlation, but Bitcoin will not rise by itself, it will depend on what we do to it. Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: Biasaae on July 12, 2018, 05:41:01 AM Today we can see a lot of ICO struggling for financing, some of them even canceling or delaying. A lot of old Altcoin have seen bottom , new ones even under ico price. When we look at the history of ICOs we notice they start collecting money like 2016 they rise till the end of 2017 and falling in 2018 just like the btc. It is obvious they follow btc wave. So do not expect too much things from ICOs, tokens, altcoins. There is likely more than a year for btc to gather strength, same for ICOs. When the top coin does not produce substantial growth, or even undergoes a long correction, we begin to put expectations on ico. But unfortunately as you say, ico works effectively on the market situation. And to this day, we see a real connection between Bitcoin and all crypto. But I'm pretty sure that this year the pump will happen, so let's hope. Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: gawuk on July 12, 2018, 09:43:30 AM Today we can see a lot of ICO struggling for financing, some of them even canceling or delaying. A lot of old Altcoin have seen bottom , new ones even under ico price. When we look at the history of ICOs we notice they start collecting money like 2016 they rise till the end of 2017 and falling in 2018 just like the btc. It is obvious they follow btc wave. So do not expect too much things from ICOs, tokens, altcoins. There is likely more than a year for btc to gather strength, same for ICOs. It would be easy to refer to the Bitcoin situation for something that does not match our expectations. But I think we also have a responsibility with the current situation of Bitcoin. At least we do not wait for each other to start a new swing. It's never been an easy thing, but I think it will be easier if we do it together. And for its influence on ico, I completely agree with you. Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: Shikamaru on July 12, 2018, 09:58:41 AM Today we can see a lot of ICO struggling for financing, some of them even canceling or delaying. A lot of old Altcoin have seen bottom , new ones even under ico price. When we look at the history of ICOs we notice they start collecting money like 2016 they rise till the end of 2017 and falling in 2018 just like the btc. It is obvious they follow btc wave. So do not expect too much things from ICOs, tokens, altcoins. There is likely more than a year for btc to gather strength, same for ICOs. I agree that this pattern will happen again in the future. But it seems there is still hope for this year. Although it may not be near the explosion last year, but I think it would be fundamental if the overall situation could rise later this year. And one way that makes it come true is to start buying. Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: PeterTom on July 12, 2018, 10:05:32 AM Today we can see a lot of ICO struggling for financing, some of them even canceling or delaying. A lot of old Altcoin have seen bottom , new ones even under ico price. When we look at the history of ICOs we notice they start collecting money like 2016 they rise till the end of 2017 and falling in 2018 just like the btc. It is obvious they follow btc wave. So do not expect too much things from ICOs, tokens, altcoins. There is likely more than a year for btc to gather strength, same for ICOs. It is clear that the whole market follows Bitcoin. But here we are talking about the fact that when the bull market begins, many altcoins will be able to give a greater profit than Bitcoin in a percentage. So I think that now it makes sense to buy those coins that are near their bottom and just wait until the growth of the whole market begins. Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: Zaidaskin on July 12, 2018, 10:08:10 AM Today we can see a lot of ICO struggling for financing, some of them even canceling or delaying. A lot of old Altcoin have seen bottom , new ones even under ico price. When we look at the history of ICOs we notice they start collecting money like 2016 they rise till the end of 2017 and falling in 2018 just like the btc. It is obvious they follow btc wave. So do not expect too much things from ICOs, tokens, altcoins. There is likely more than a year for btc to gather strength, same for ICOs. It seems like that, even I know some successful ico get hardcap difficulties in the exchange market. Of course people will see Bitcoin as a decision consideration, and unfortunately, the Bitcoin situation will always be a reference, although its influence will be greater on the older altcoin. Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: digitalman001 on July 12, 2018, 10:14:29 AM Yes, the current market is caused by the sharp drop in Bitcoin. Bitcoin is everything, and people can't see that bitcoin rise will not get involved in the market. So look forward to the next bitcoin upgrade.
Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: iamreal on July 17, 2018, 03:29:36 AM You are very correct, nothing much will happen if the bear continues like this, let's all keep hoping and believe bull run will soon come, If btc can break 10k support level ICO's will start doing well again.
Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: badykvik on July 17, 2018, 11:11:11 AM I believe this is true because the whole crypto is affected by this and I believe that not until when the market recover and the price of coin begin to rise especially bitcoin that is when other coin and icos can begin to do better and that is the time to expect something reasonable from them.
Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: BitcoinHodler on July 17, 2018, 11:30:15 AM another way of looking at it is that the ICO hype is finally coming to an end.
it is like many other hype seasons in the history of altcoins. for a short period of time we see different types of hype which brings in a lot of money to the pumpers. this season it was ICOs, and for a short time it was forking bitcoin and before that it was something else. the ICOs are struggling to get money because people stopped falling for their hype and stopped gambling their money with them. Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: StGermain on July 17, 2018, 11:35:50 AM Far too simplistic view in there. There are many ICOs that have clearly beaten bitcoin results by x many times, so I am going to keep on looking for these investments.
Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: foaman on July 17, 2018, 11:41:38 AM I believe in that, because everybody is saying that 2018 is one of the worst year in order to invest into ICO projects, it is the less effective and the less profitable ever.
Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: Triss Merigold on July 17, 2018, 11:44:37 AM I fully agree with you, except that many of the coins that have just entered the exchange show either very powerful negative dynamics or very high positive dynamics. At the same time, they are not subject to fluctuation of the course for some time due to bitcoin.
Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: xOdiumNostrumx on July 17, 2018, 11:45:08 AM It was indeed quite depressive to see strong projects like OneLedger and Atonomi go well below their ICO price as in the bull market they would probably reach 5x+ right out of the gates. Fingers crossed that the situation will correct itself soon.
Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: HaywhyJ on July 17, 2018, 11:50:17 AM I use to surprise why all alter coins use to experiences decrease in prices at the same time?
Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: UZIzzzz on July 17, 2018, 11:57:00 AM Yes, at present is still in a bear market, BTC has fallen by more than half a year, but the trend continues, if BTC did not usher in a bull market, so all altcoin is such, ICO is also.
Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: TrufieldICO on July 17, 2018, 11:58:03 AM There is an outstanding ICO project in project in 2018 which does not only have great growth potential as an investment but will revolutionize healthcare for millions of people people. The Trufield ICO. Check it out at http://Trufield.com. One of the Best investments you can ever make
Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: foaman on July 18, 2018, 11:07:45 AM We all our wedding bitcoin to go up, but still there are many of great ico's going on, in which we can invest also, just the point is, that we will have a slower success and earnings that we can have, when bitcoin will be great again
Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: RoftheN on July 20, 2018, 03:04:56 PM True. All of the ICOs that are out now are undervalued because bitcoin is down which affects the entire market so if you are expecting ICOs to do well while the price of bitcoin is down then you are just putting yourself up to be disappointed. The best way would be to buy the coins from the projects that you are certain will last for a while and then hold the coins for the price of bitcoin to go up.
Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: OrangeSeller on July 21, 2018, 01:04:57 PM Today we can see a lot of ICO struggling for financing, some of them even canceling or delaying. A lot of old Altcoin have seen bottom , new ones even under ico price. When we look at the history of ICOs we notice they start collecting money like 2016 they rise till the end of 2017 and falling in 2018 just like the btc. It is obvious they follow btc wave. So do not expect too much things from ICOs, tokens, altcoins. There is likely more than a year for btc to gather strength, same for ICOs. Anyone investing into any ICO today will really have to be patient to wait for the perfect time to be expecting something tangible from those ICOs. We are in a huge downtrend and it is obviously affecting the whole market and I can simply understand why some ICOs are even skeptical when it comes to being listed on exchanges and trying to find a better time during bitcoin uptrend to do that. For what it is worth though, it is just a good chance to be picking some of them with good product which are less than the ICO price now. Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: Golftech on July 21, 2018, 01:09:37 PM True. All of the ICOs that are out now are undervalued because bitcoin is down which affects the entire market so if you are expecting ICOs to do well while the price of bitcoin is down then you are just putting yourself up to be disappointed. The best way would be to buy the coins from the projects that you are certain will last for a while and then hold the coins for the price of bitcoin to go up. Chain reaction when btc pumped the value of your ico coins will rise as well, the market still relying with btc value, we can't deny that fact and as long as the system still like this, we will just be disappointed unless we sets our minds with a waiting game inside this market, if you can wait for some time thenyou have a good chances to gain more profits, just wait till the market turned to green it will bring everything in a positive situations. Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: Airelves09 on July 21, 2018, 01:15:59 PM You have a good view. BTC came to a low valley in 2013. After a few years. People's understanding of the encrypted currency. The price of BTC reached a high point last year. But the market is always regular. ICO is the same. It reached a high point last year. I believe that this year is going to be in a low valley. The prices are all broken.
Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: Argoo on July 21, 2018, 01:31:56 PM Today we can see a lot of ICO struggling for financing, some of them even canceling or delaying. A lot of old Altcoin have seen bottom , new ones even under ico price. When we look at the history of ICOs we notice they start collecting money like 2016 they rise till the end of 2017 and falling in 2018 just like the btc. It is obvious they follow btc wave. So do not expect too much things from ICOs, tokens, altcoins. There is likely more than a year for btc to gather strength, same for ICOs. My opinion is that tokens and coins need to leave out of the influence of bitcoin. This is not a serious situation. I think that the problem is, too high a bitcoin price. It is not clear to me how one can talk about decentralization, if the whole market can be managed through the price of bitcoins. There is not so much coins that do not fall under its influence. Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: biochem123 on July 21, 2018, 01:46:14 PM Exactly, it doesn't matter how good the project is, if btc is tanking then it's taking the rest of the projects with him and there isn't much we can do about it - expect learning to play by the rules of the game and make money off of shorting btc
Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: Seth Nyarko on July 21, 2018, 01:54:56 PM You have a point, but some ICOs like PrimalBase etc are doing well like Bitcoin, hitting as high as $3000 and above. It's true that when Bitcoin increases in price the resultant effect is that prices of good ICOs also appreciate, since they are traded in BTC or ether. However, for me I still believe that some good ICOs of reputable companies can emerge that will be able to build their own community and will not have much influence of the price action of Bitcoin on it. And the time for such ICOs are coming soon as Amazon and WallMart are preparing to unleash their ICOs. Even Viola.AI (https://viola.ai/?r=5a2d62cf2225) is coming and Omega One are all ready to make some good difference. The futute will tell! :) Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: lagabara on July 21, 2018, 01:59:01 PM Currently we have to be patient with the existing ICO, because the existing market conditions are experiencing a downward trend. So as long as Bitcoin prices are still like this we are still waiting for ICO token prices to rise high. Hopefully Bitcoin prices could rise again again like last year and could make the ICO tokens could follow a significant increase.
Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: jhache on July 23, 2018, 11:33:06 AM I was just saying this to a friend the other day. He invested in an ICO and was expecting a lot of returns from it and my response to him was that the price of bitcoin is way too low so there is no way that any other coins are going to be doing well except the coins that are getting pumped and dumped. If you are investing in ICOs then you should be willing to wait for bitcoin to recover before you can make a reasonable profit from it.
Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: rickadone on July 25, 2018, 10:31:40 AM it is not just the issue of BTC price not doing well but the quality of valueable projects in the space has decreased significantly everyone just want to hit the market with a project that has nothing in particular to add to the space and people started losing trust in the space Butt one thing is that for those who are smart seeing some of these valuable projects being undervalued, it would be a big time for them to be investing in them as fast as possible because when the whole market starts recovering, the chances of them flying pretty fast to their ICO level price is pretty certain and without doubt that alone is some huge profit already for how much some of these tokens have bottomed so low.If you are investing in ICOs then you should be willing to wait for bitcoin to recover before you can make a reasonable profit from it. Unfortunately few ICOs will never get bumped as the devs intentionally started such a venture just to eat our money. If you have selected your ICOs very carefully then you may go for opting to wait for some months so that you may get good returns for your investments. Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: DogmaF10 on July 25, 2018, 11:12:30 AM Totally agree,, do not expect for the coin prices to the moon either. I dont really know if it all because of bounty hunters tend to dump their rewards or it is the ICO itself who failed to run their project smoothly based on the roadmap or their project simply just not good enough for the investors
Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: totoy4741 on July 25, 2018, 11:48:08 AM That's probably because of BTC's steady going upward and most investors are in to btc as of the moment. But eth and other alts might get back to green days once BTC starts to decline when that time come we will reap what we sow.
Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: unusualfacts30 on July 25, 2018, 11:56:11 AM True. All of the ICOs that are out now are undervalued because bitcoin is down which affects the entire market so if you are expecting ICOs to do well while the price of bitcoin is down then you are just putting yourself up to be disappointed. The best way would be to buy the coins from the projects that you are certain will last for a while and then hold the coins for the price of bitcoin to go up. Yes, but this is the right time to invest in my opinion. BTC is booming, crypto will soon follow its footsteps. Regardless of your bad timing, you should do always research and nit pick what you invest in. not all of them do good and not all of them do bad. It's not as simple as putting everything in one bucket and label it as ICO. Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: el kaka22 on July 25, 2018, 12:37:51 PM Most ICO projects do fall a bit after the stock market, but it seems to me that the main reason is the greed of investors who want to get only profit and they do not care about the technology being created. Yes, the investors would prefer to get the weak hands out of the market and dump pretty fast so as to be able to achieve that. In this kind of scenario, this is when a lot of bounty participants always get out of the market anyway, most especially for those who did not participate because they even knew anything about the project but because they just want the short term money to do whatever they feel like doing. Also, with the current state of the market, obviously nothing much should be expected than this. I am still holding many tokens patiently which were bought as well got rewarded from various bounties and expecting bitcoin prices to have better prices like $12k levels and above.Title: Re: Do not expect something from ICOs till btc to FLY Post by: iamMhew on July 25, 2018, 12:43:44 PM Im not really expecting too much in ICO because some of them are money making, after they got some money from investors, theres no progress after that, and they still waiting till bitcoin falls down, most of the ICO gets down when bitcoin starting to rise, and these should be the reasons why all altcoins didnt rise immediately in the market.
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