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Hidden Bull Market - Big Institutes Coming Nov / Dec 2018

that is what I am being told, and see on my volatility charts.

Please reply below -- What is your opinion?

It is very possible. We do know that a bull market is coming, but predicting when exactly is the hard part. I could see it starting no later than november or december if not sooner. Circumstances have been aligning for some time now for institutional investors to get involved and bring in some big money to market.

yes i think institutes are bit nervous, they want clarity right now.

They do not have that right now, but I think by end of year they will, and its just the excuse they neeed to JUMP in BIG TIME.

I guess time will tell.

To rally, bitcoin needs to see clarity on factors such as security, regulation and accessibility. These are being worked on, but obviously not to their standard right now.

It is possible if we will take a look on last year's chart wherein it all started on Q4 however we will never know what will happen since this issues about regulations and other stuffs just happened this year that greatly affect the market. But I'm still positive that this year will end with a bull market.

may be bull run will start in september and explode in november than normally december have a correction with christmas and new year...

We can't determine when that institutional money would came in. This is business and business is not played that way, and if you are thinking that that rumor is bullish then you are mistaken. Them entering the market is for their own profit so being the big guns make this market lesser volatile than ever and maybe adding some regulation thru their connections which is a good news but for them to trade crypto would rekt us, really.

this guy had 2 bitcoin predictions come true, and now he is saying BTC will go to $60,000 USD soon.

Watch video here. https://www.cnbc.com/video/2018/07/10/discussing-the-future-of-bitcoin-prices.html (https://www.cnbc.com/video/2018/07/10/discussing-the-future-of-bitcoin-prices.html)

I believe in this and hope it becomes our reality.  Many of us especially the investors has been holding our investments for long and we actually needs to see good price before selling.   If cryptocurrencies market will recover in November and December then now is the right time to buy.

Would have appreciated it below if you could cite sources on this and probably share links to your "volatility charts."

That being said, i've also noticed that on majority of my information sources (bitcointalk, reddit, coindesk, medium blogs, etc.) that there has been overwhelmingly positive news as of late. It seems that media is running out of FUD and all the good news is driving the price up.

I'm optimistic that this could be the start of 2018's 2nd semester BULL run.

yes mate, we had a discussion about this, and it all lined up with some of the bigger investors I were talking too. Not to say this is set in stone and will happen, but that is why I thought I would come here and talk about this.

i am too hodling, and waiting for the next BTC and crypto catalyst, so far, it has not come, but im hopeful.  ;)

lets say hypothetically we do see, this then yes man, you are right, DIRT CHEAP crypto prices here in JULY. wow.  Ripe for the pickins!!  ;D ;D

well I have noticed that when BTC rocketed last year, the banks and govt almost immediatly put out fud and bad news, to try and scare people, and send the prices down.

They did this in feb too.....so it never stops. Even warren buffet came out and said its a scam, and bubble, but you have to remember BTC is now threating some things to do with the banks, and he is heavily invested in the financial sector and individual companies in the banks.

but you are right there has been alot of positive news lately, and its probably just a matter of time, before we get the right type of NEWS CATALYST, to give the crypto prices a bit of a pump.....time will tell.  I like your enthusiasm but.  ;)

Exactly this. Why do you even bother to post your "rumours" if you can't even give any proof?

Looking back at the past, we will need some "stability period" with prices staying more or less constant for a couple of month before even thinking about another bull run.

Why volume is very low if big investors are buying? Now I don't believe in a very fast recovery. They will make affordable prices for them first. After that must be long flat and only after this we will see recovery IMHO.

then you are being lied to :D
there aren't any institutes coming to save you and your investment. there is no retribution. there is only mistakes that you have made by bag holding altcoins and the losses that you have sustained while traders made a lot of profit from your mistakes.

now they are doing it again by telling you to bag hold while waiting for some imaginary savior that will come pump the prices and give you your profit back!

IF BTC drops to around $5500USD I dont see why not the market will recover faster.

Not sure on who these institutions are though? ANd i have no idea why they would make their involvement in BTC public knowledge. It would only hinder their chances at a better entry.

first, how did you know if there will be a big instututes coming in Nov / Dec this year ?
can you give me a link about that ?
anyway , if this news is true,, there will be a huge volatility in the markets in the next couple of months

As much as I would love this, these threads are bs.
Confidence is down and will take awhile to come back, I'm doubtful of a bull run this year.

Embrace the bear and swing trade wisely, you can double up every 1-2 months even in this market, holding = good luck.

In today's cryptocurrency market nothing can be guaranteed anymore but we can only speculate and hope that indeed there will be a big bull run coming which I think the market do deserve after all the many development that took place. It is unfortunate that the world of the cryptocurrency has not yet decoupled with the downtrends happening with other investment vehicles...well this is the big reality that we have to deal with. I would be happy then if Bitcoin can get back at least to the $10K level before the year ends.

They will be in the market at one time in the future but I don't think it all happen in a month. But the hidden bull run is on the way coind are very low.

Personal opinion, BTC needs to print out a period of accumulation on the chart before any bull run starts.

Hopefully, such a lull in BTC volatilty will allow whales to start pumping all the alts that are hammered down to the bottom now.

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The bull market will come just like we saw it in December but I don't know whether it will get to December before being fired up.

The reason for this increase in price will be because of much transfers as the fees are very low compared to transferring money through banks.

We really pray for this as the institutional investors are the one that can really pull this market up.  I think many of them have in mind to invest just that the uncertainty in market is what is scaring investors.  I just believe that November and December 2018 may give us more opportunities to make money.

How can charts tell you that big money and big institutions are about to enter the crypto world?  Not quite sure what you mean by that.

I wonder why people tend to use a statement in a confirmatory way like they can see the future. Sure, we know the bull market will come at some point and there is no doubt about that, but the fact remains that no one knows exactly when this would be as we are definitely only entitled to what the market gives us and the market will always be one step ahead and all we can just do is to participate based on what it brings.

Whether big institutes are coming, no one knows and I would not even pay so much attention since the OP did not even drop any source, so as it is, we are only left with keeping the faith high and hoping for the best in the long run.

bitcoin won't be bullish at the end of this year,
I predict that bitcoin will soar in 2019, after nasdaq announces the release trading platform.

We should add 'if Nasdaq will start trading platform'. OTC market exist today already. But for massive bullrun we need open trades with institutional participation. Then we can see real volumes and real interest. I think Bakkt can start this trend. But now I have some doubts that Bakkt will be started

This is a market for crying out loud and certainly, a market will not remain in one position forever as long as it is not a dead market. However, as long as none of us can see the future and what it holds, we can only speculate based on what we feel we want to see or based on past occurrences, which last time I checked, they are never indicative of the future occurrences. Sure, bitcoin could increase in value before the end of the year, but nothing is certain yet.

We all surely hope we will get to experience some bullishness in the market as it is, but the fact remains that nothing is guaranteed yet until we see the market switching trends. These are just mere speculations at the moment and that does not change anything as no one can apparently see what the future holds as the case may be.

What we can do now is to take some chill pill and see where the market leads. For what it is worth, it could be a hidden bull market or a further bear market, what is advantage is to always see the opportunity each of the trends brings.

I couldn't agree more. I also do believe and speculate that big money will be coming into Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.

Take into the fact that the bitcoin ETF is about to get approved by the SEC this Sept. 30 then you have a sure fire reason to buy more bitcoin today. When the bitcoin ETF is approved, we will surely see the value of bitcoin double or even triple. Buying now is simply the best course of action.

well
i totaly aggree with you.
the fact, its an individual category.
we dont need to believe someone, unless you as an investor some project.
but if the project fails, just back to step 1
its an individual risk, individual profit.

October and November would be different. So guys if you haven't buy altcoins yet this is your time to buy and don't wait so long better accumulate now. Yes big institutions are here and it's a serious business anymore not a speculative investment.

As much as he may be wrong, you may be also and you can't say that someone is being lied to just because their prediction may be wrong, that is the beauty of predictions. I do have to agree that the market is most likely not due for some large scale recovery and that big institutes aren't just going to swoop in out of nowhere. Institutions will follow what the people demand and want and right now there is little furore around bitcoin.

Can you disclose who the sources are or do you have any publications to support these claims or is this just pure speculation?

Is it just a hearsay? who told you about it? All I know is if etf will surely be approved this month this big investors and big institutes will enter the market with huge money that will bring the market into next bull run Im pretty sure about it.

Are yuo sure about this? where you get the info from? could show some link? or you have talk to some one important that will bull the market?

No institutional investor will buy so as to disperse the prices. Capitalization of the crypto market is so small for big money that their presence is unlikely. Also, it is necessary to remember the high risks, volatility, youth and uncertainty of the industry.
Try to think realistic.

That may come true. There are cycles on the market and if to analyze, some of them stay the same. However, we did not have much of history from the altcoins.
The market is not dropping significantly, either we do not see huge gains, as afterwards, we see big reversal down.

Not sure about Big Institutes coming, as you mentioned, but holidays have finished and big boys want to earn and we may expect bigger volatility and more volumes than we had this summer.

I have seen this mentioned many times that big institutions are coming or the ETFs are coming. All this will happen though do not know the time-frame.

Who is your source on that?  You say institute? What kind of institute you are talking about? When you say hidden is it from a whale friends of yours or is it just pure speculations. If Samsung and Apple companies would be in then I guess it will be really big. I think companies that already existing in the marketing world should get into crypto. That way prices will be skyrocketing again and by the time we knot it is another ATH and we are already too late to buy.

We have been waiting. So far the signs are not indicating something of such, but we are hopeful. It's less than four months till the end of the year. We are still open for the possibilities.

I think that the market is now being rebuilt into a bullish position. I think the altcoins will soon go up, but most likely not all will return to the prices of the end of 2017. Bitcoin is likely to be able to see up to 8500-10000k by the end of the year. For example, here are the charts, which indicate a possible reversal of the trend. But there is no confirmation. https://www.tradingview.com/x/ZOMDCnNd/

large institutions enter and prices of bitcoin and ethereum will also rise like yesterday's ripple,
I am very sure that November or December prices will definitely rise

everyone expects the market to get up soon, but I doubt what big institution is meant by the OP? if we look at chart history the market remains bearish and unstable for a long time.

but anything can happen and all predictions can be missed or incorrect, which is certain we still expect the best.

I have also heard this back in Summer but there is no such thing that happened. I know that this will happen but they must have seen that it is not the right time to jump. They could have been waiting for the market to be back again. Their arrival is inevitable but not one when it is going to happen. I really can't wait for their money to pour in into exchanges.

the sign is everywhere. just sit tight. big whales have no cofidence on current market movement,when everything is set, im sure the bull will hit ATH.

We are almost ready to experience a bull run psychologically. The conversations about the digital assets on the Telegram are decreasing. A boredom began to dominate the market. These are good signs for a bull market i think.

Have you heard about Bakkt ETF to launch in early november?Is it large institution? If yes why the price doesn't react to this news? I want to know what is large institution  ???
https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/huge-headline-ices-bakkt-to-launch-bitcoin-etf-on-november-5-2018/

There is a high probability that the market will return to the bullish mood by the end of the year that is, I think that in December there will be an increase in the price of the entire market and capitalization will begin to increase.

yes i agree if the decision not delayed 45 days again, i hope 30th september will be the final decision,,keep hold and buy more

I think many of them have in mind to invest just that the uncertainty in market is what is scaring investors.  I just believe that November and December 2018 may give us more opportunities to make money.

Are we still hoping for the big Institutions to come in and bring together a lot of cash in the market? Possible. Will it be in Nov/Dec 2018 as the OP suggested? Not sure.

There's a theory that the so called 'Ber' months is the start of a bull run but so far we haven't heard a single one of them. Lol. What we witnessing are bull traps by whales who suddenly pumps the market and then it when ripe for the taking, we will see a lot of sell orders causing to halt this so called break out run. But just for the sake of being bullish,

Yeah, there's nothing we can do but to wait for the herds to start their run to make the crypto market more active in the months of Nov/Dec.

If you haven't buy altcoins yet this is your time to buy and don't wait so long better accumulate now. Yes big institutions are here and it's a serious business anymore not a speculative investment.

Google, USA, and governments from all over the world have looked at crypto currencies,
ethereum futures will also be launched, I'm sure 90% of prices will rise

I'm in complete agreement. Threads like this need more visibility.

There is clearly an upcoming BULL run this coming december 18. The best we can do to support bitocin and crypto right now is to hold steadfastly and keep buying. The bears are tired and are obviously in retreat. Pretty soon we should see uptrends on all coins. I'm buying more today.

This bakkt will definitely lift the market but i think there is still doubt about it and investors are waiting for definitive confirmation before going ahead. Smart investors won't wait and buy those coins right now before the bull run

There is no impossibility that the participation of big institutions can push up the prices. The more influential people enter and invest, the more will the market respond to the rise in the demand in terms of rising the prices. But this is just one factor which might affect the price only few percent.

The real agent that can very easily do so is the government that if decides to recognize it can add huge level of demand to the aggregate demand and hence the effect on the market could be very clear.

Institutional investors are not stupid and won't get into the market to drive  up the price significantly because they won't want to buy at the top and the are not speculators like most of us are in for long time. Again with the increase in the number of OTC trading they would rather use this instead of normal exchange

I want to believe even the altcoin markets have been showing a huge sign for a very long time now and it totally depends on those who really are smart enough to see now as a great opportunity to start getting in to begin doing so.

For what it is worth, for the past few days, the alts have been showing some good level of bullish divergence, and also we have seen cases of some of them breaking out with some pretty good volume, and all this is a way to make people understand that whales are already getting into the market and are ready to ride it up and it is left for each person now to take advantage of it or not.

"Svandis‘ CEO and founder, Hermann Finnbjornsson, for example, claims that Bitcoin is almost guaranteed to have a future. Despite its poor performance throughout the year, a lot of others claim the same. They believe that there are numerous positive factors that have a good influence on this coin. Even the banks are giving up on ignoring the cryptocurrencies, as they simply won't go away."

I most certainly agree with Swandis. $10,000 in November. most certainly yes. If we hit that $10,000 mark then it'll be a good position to say it's going to get higher from there.

I hope a lot of good news arrives. This is common at the end of the year.
Usually demand will be high, we see what happens at the end of this year.

We are all waiting for this to happen and most of us are already disappointed on the market situation. Although we know that this is unpredictable and nothing is sure about the crypto prices we just need to believe that sooner this will reverse the situation and turns the market in a green zone once we hear any good from the cryptoworld.

i dont have any analysis about this bullish coming, but my sixsense says bullrun is so near, i feel its coming next week.. ;D

if from my analysis, it seems that news about large institutions has joined bitcoin and ethereum, even XRP,
I'm sure this year will be another golden year

Looks like everyone's sixth sense is working and predicts on when the bull will come.

Let's hope for the best that what you said is right. I'm starting to have fewer expectations for this year but I'm hoping that this will be another golden year as you said but don't expect too much.

Apparently, any big institution will never announce its arrival and would have been accumulating the dips while others are busy trying to wonder where the market is going to next. The thing here is that it is possible to see the market move in an uptrend fashion before the end of the year, but at the same time, nothing is guaranteed yet and the only thing we can do now is to just chill and wait to see how things would eventually turn out at the end of the day.

Yes, within this last part of the month is when we tend to see some good greens in the market, but at this stage, all we can certainly do is to hope.

I hope you can see a big price rise until December and we can enter the bull season. We can't make money for months and the wait is making us lose money. It would be good to reduce our losses by doing daily trading...

i agree people are in fetal positions right now and saying and screaming BITCOIN IS SCAM

but i can refer to many articles, I can see around the web about big news coming... here are just some.


- Bakkt Xchange (November)
- BTC ETF Coming (Q1/Q2 2019)
- Regulated ErisX Xchange (Q1/Q2 2019)
- Nasdaq / ICE (November)
- Citi Group Custodian Held Trading
- Coinbase $8 Billion Deal 

i guess its not time to get the party streamer and get nood and let off firecrackers....but things sure are getting interesting.

amazing, will all this happen this year?
it looks like the bull will come out soon and there is still enough time for us to make preparations to welcome him.

I will not argue, everyone has already seen that anything can happen in the coming months. But there are some good signs that the market will unfold. This is supported by stabilization and small price adjustments for all coins.

It possible for market to change that trend, if you say november or desember will be bullish market, let see what happen in this october, october has a role to decide where it will go.

People need to understand that this institutional investors are getting smarter most of the deal they are doing now are OTC and that won't move prices on the exchanges, what I am waiting for is to see almost 40% of the tokens on exchanges get delisted because most are just their taking volumes from the right projects, exchanges also need to help by stop manipulating the prices of these tokens

I agree and hope for new big pump in the end of 2018 or in the beginning of 2019. But we can be wrong and we'll have to wait a few years  :'(

I don't know who told you that, but that is the expectation yes. But because everyone expects that, I think it will come a little bit later :)

However, end of the years were pretty profitable if you check previous years of market prices. So I hope it can happen this year too.

What a sixth sense! lol. Does he have a crystal ball too? ;D

If we do tend to see Speculation board and Bitcoin Price Observer Board and this Alt Spec board then we would see thousands of threads and post about price predictions.
With Basis or without but still theres no such thing on knowing on the things that might happen ahead but somehow we can really make some presumption depending on what we do possibly saw
or hear around.