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Title: Bitcoin trademarked in france.
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on October 01, 2011, 03:31:03 PM
https://i.imgur.com/D9AVt.png

https://i.imgur.com/AkQKs.png

Hes baaaack...and this time he brought his wife.

http://michaelpascaziscammer.com was the last attempt by these people to trademark bitcoin and now they have successfully done so in France under the "Financial" section of the law.

Magical Tux is attempting to register the name globally and release it to anyone who wants. they are regging it as a "commodity" not a money.

Lets hope this is successful and/or this trademark gets repealed.

This means they have the trademark in 166 countries.


Title: Re: Bitcoin trademarked in france.
Post by: WiseOldOwl on October 01, 2011, 03:34:07 PM
Someone should... ehrmmm... "send him on vacation"


Title: Re: Bitcoin trademarked in france.
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on October 01, 2011, 03:39:13 PM
Someone should... ehrmmm... "send him on vacation"

They are like zombies. Unless you remove their head they keep coming.


Title: Re: Bitcoin trademarked in france.
Post by: Serge on October 01, 2011, 03:41:13 PM
Waste of time and energy on this guy's part


Title: Re: Bitcoin trademarked in france.
Post by: teflone on October 01, 2011, 03:48:38 PM
Yes, a complete waste, as Bitcoin has been around BEFORE his claim..

Bitcoin is its own...


Title: Re: Bitcoin trademarked in france.
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on October 01, 2011, 03:51:44 PM
Yes, a complete waste, as Bitcoin has been around BEFORE his claim..

Bitcoin is its own...

Doesnt matter. Its first come first served,no matter how long its been around.


Title: Re: Bitcoin trademarked in france.
Post by: Bigpiggy01 on October 01, 2011, 03:53:16 PM
Ummm,

I wonder what this could potentially do to both him and the court case (Gox vs bank) in France. Unless my memory is totally screwed there are heavy duty penalties for "misleading public offices" in France.

It would be hilarious if this were filed later than the initial filings in the court case ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin trademarked in france.
Post by: Jay_Pal on October 01, 2011, 03:54:19 PM
How about trademark his and his wife's name worldwide?


Title: Re: Bitcoin trademarked in france.
Post by: cbeast on October 01, 2011, 04:01:43 PM
Bitcoin isn't a commodity or a currency. If so, I would like to buy a kilo.


Title: Re: Bitcoin trademarked in france.
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on October 01, 2011, 04:08:42 PM
Bitcoin isn't a commodity or a currency. If so, I would like to buy a kilo.

What if bitcoin is declared illegal? What do they do to you if you own a trademark on that ?


 :D


Title: Re: Bitcoin trademarked in france.
Post by: WiseOldOwl on October 01, 2011, 04:18:05 PM
You do not want to screw up in France, if they decide to arrest him for whatever reason, he will wish he had never been born.


Title: Re: Bitcoin trademarked in france.
Post by: Serge on October 01, 2011, 04:21:43 PM
Bitcoin isn't a commodity or a currency. If so, I would like to buy a kilo.

If you look deep enough, you will see it's a currency of electric signal patterns magically becoming commodity in a stored form  ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin trademarked in france.
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on October 01, 2011, 04:24:58 PM
Bitcoin isn't a commodity or a currency. If so, I would like to buy a kilo.

If you look deep enough, you will see it's a currency of electric signal patterns magically becoming commodity in a stored form  ;D

Well its an electric currentcy.


Title: Re: Bitcoin trademarked in france.
Post by: Yankee (BitInstant) on October 01, 2011, 04:49:26 PM
Bitcoin isn't a commodity or a currency. If so, I would like to buy a kilo.

What if bitcoin is declared illegal? What do they do to you if you own a trademark on that ?

 :D

There is no way to make Bitcoin illegal, Bitcoin is a network of p2p, a commodity with value only because of the demand for it's supply and what people are willing to pay for it.

This guy didn't copyright bitcoin, he copyrighted the word bitcoin. He lays claim in France to anyone using the word bitcoin in their business. I'm excited to see how this holds up,

I kinda want to incorporate 'Bitcoin, Inc.' in France and have him try and take me to court, just so I can set the precedent and use the case to argue a wrongful copyright claim in court. The fact that Gox has been fighting French courts over Bitcoin use actually helps our case.


Title: Re: Bitcoin trademarked in france.
Post by: Gabi on October 01, 2011, 05:25:42 PM
Then they will arrest us all!

Kk, when is the revolution?


Title: Re: Bitcoin trademarked in france.
Post by: P4man on October 01, 2011, 09:23:26 PM
Doesnt matter. Its first come first served,no matter how long its been around.

Depends on the country. In some countries you common law rights, in others you dont. Ive no idea about France.


Title: Re: Bitcoin trademarked in france.
Post by: zer0 on October 01, 2011, 11:10:44 PM
Patent/trademark trolling is nothing new. Ballmer still holds patents for the first interweb browser, he's continually tried to sue Android devs/Google/Samsung and everybody he can with little success. Nobody's copyrighted cryptocurrency yet...? Get satoshi on that

Ballmer even tried to sue everybody using the term linux as he claims Novell Linux is the only legal distro.


Title: Re: Bitcoin trademarked in france.
Post by: JonHind on October 01, 2011, 11:34:08 PM
[Edit] removed


Title: Re: Bitcoin trademarked in france.
Post by: OneFixt on October 02, 2011, 12:11:39 AM
This will have serious consequences to anyone in France trying to set up a business using bitcoins. Anyone doing so will have to get Mark's wife's permission (which will no doubt only be granted if you give her a load of cash). French trademark law is very strict, and it has been responsible for a lot of products being banned for sale in the country.

Mt:Gox - The Paypal of the Bitcoin(tm) world. Regulating, controlling, owning.

I can't wait until day Mark's house of cards comes crashing down. He is everything that many bitcoiners despise, or at least should despise. He is the epitome of everything that is wrong in the capitalist financial world.

Please re-read the original post.  The lawyer Michael Pascazi and his wife have copyrighted "Bitcoin" in order to make money off of other people's work.  Mark, the owner of MtGox, is the one fighting against this.


Title: Re: Bitcoin trademarked in france.
Post by: JonHind on October 02, 2011, 12:13:26 AM

Please re-read the original post.  The lawyer Michael Pascazi and his wife have copyrighted "Bitcoin" in order to make money off of other people's work.  Mark, the owner of MtGox, is the one fighting against this.

Sorry, I completely misread. I blame the red wine.

I take it all back.


Title: Re: Bitcoin trademarked in france.
Post by: OneFixt on October 02, 2011, 12:15:01 AM

Please re-read the original post.  The lawyer Michael Pascazi and his wife have copyrighted "Bitcoin" in order to make money off of other people's work.  Mark, the owner of MtGox, is the one fighting against this.

Sorry, I completely misread. I blame the red wine.

I take it all back.

No problem, glad to hear that it was an honest mistake.


Title: Re: Bitcoin trademarked in france.
Post by: proudhon on October 02, 2011, 12:21:23 AM
This will have serious consequences to anyone in France trying to set up a business using bitcoins. Anyone doing so will have to get Mark's wife's permission (which will no doubt only be granted if you give her a load of cash). French trademark law is very strict, and it has been responsible for a lot of products being banned for sale in the country.

Mt:Gox - The Paypal of the Bitcoin(tm) world. Regulating, controlling, owning.

I can't wait until day Mark's house of cards comes crashing down. He is everything that many bitcoiners despise, or at least should despise. He is the epitome of everything that is wrong in the capitalist financial world.

Please re-read the original post.  The lawyer Michael Pascazi and his wife have copyrighted "Bitcoin" in order to make money off of other people's work.  Mark, the owner of MtGox, is the one fighting against this.

Trademarked.  Not copyrighted.


Title: Re: Bitcoin trademarked in france.
Post by: OneFixt on October 02, 2011, 12:25:15 AM
This will have serious consequences to anyone in France trying to set up a business using bitcoins. Anyone doing so will have to get Mark's wife's permission (which will no doubt only be granted if you give her a load of cash). French trademark law is very strict, and it has been responsible for a lot of products being banned for sale in the country.

Mt:Gox - The Paypal of the Bitcoin(tm) world. Regulating, controlling, owning.

I can't wait until day Mark's house of cards comes crashing down. He is everything that many bitcoiners despise, or at least should despise. He is the epitome of everything that is wrong in the capitalist financial world.

Please re-read the original post.  The lawyer Michael Pascazi and his wife have copyrighted "Bitcoin" in order to make money off of other people's work.  Mark, the owner of MtGox, is the one fighting against this.

Trademarked.  Not copyrighted.

Oops, thanks =)


Title: Re: Bitcoin trademarked in france.
Post by: proudhon on October 02, 2011, 12:37:27 AM
This will have serious consequences to anyone in France trying to set up a business using bitcoins. Anyone doing so will have to get Mark's wife's permission (which will no doubt only be granted if you give her a load of cash). French trademark law is very strict, and it has been responsible for a lot of products being banned for sale in the country.

Mt:Gox - The Paypal of the Bitcoin(tm) world. Regulating, controlling, owning.

I can't wait until day Mark's house of cards comes crashing down. He is everything that many bitcoiners despise, or at least should despise. He is the epitome of everything that is wrong in the capitalist financial world.

Please re-read the original post.  The lawyer Michael Pascazi and his wife have copyrighted "Bitcoin" in order to make money off of other people's work.  Mark, the owner of MtGox, is the one fighting against this.

Trademarked.  Not copyrighted.

Oops, thanks =)

np