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Title: In simple terms, why are BTC and LTC prices so closely tied?
Post by: DrBitcoin on February 14, 2014, 05:02:34 PM
Can someone explain in plain simple English why Bitcoin and Litcoin prices so closely tied? Just curious. Thanks.


Title: Re: In simple terms, why are BTC and LTC prices so closely tied?
Post by: Rampion on February 14, 2014, 05:03:35 PM
Because LTC is a clone of BTC?


Title: Re: In simple terms, why are BTC and LTC prices so closely tied?
Post by: Gabi on February 14, 2014, 05:04:08 PM
Because they are mostly the same thing, also because they can very easily be exchanged.


Title: Re: In simple terms, why are BTC and LTC prices so closely tied?
Post by: hilariousandco on February 14, 2014, 05:08:35 PM
Can someone explain in plain simple English why Bitcoin and Litcoin prices so closely tied? Just curious. Thanks.

Because Litecoin is pegged to Bitcoin.


Title: Re: In simple terms, why are BTC and LTC prices so closely tied?
Post by: bmanzzs on February 14, 2014, 05:11:47 PM
because there aren't many exchanges that deal directly from fiat to LTC. there are many more exchanges that deal with fiat to BTC, so that's why you see generally see similar price fluctuations with the other alt coins as well.


Title: Re: In simple terms, why are BTC and LTC prices so closely tied?
Post by: nobbynobbynoob on February 14, 2014, 06:05:39 PM
Arbitrage.

I've been around these parts long enough to remember when the exchange rate was about 300 LTC for 1 BTC. But now, litecoin has grown up some and is no longer as puny or volatile a market as it once was.


Title: Re: In simple terms, why are BTC and LTC prices so closely tied?
Post by: yatsey87 on February 14, 2014, 06:16:31 PM
because there aren't many exchanges that deal directly from fiat to LTC. there are many more exchanges that deal with fiat to BTC, so that's why you see generally see similar price fluctuations with the other alt coins as well.

You can usually only buy LTC for BTC and when Bitcoin's prices rise a lot of other currencies follow it a little, LTC being one of them.


Title: Re: In simple terms, why are BTC and LTC prices so closely tied?
Post by: CryptoPanda on February 14, 2014, 06:25:22 PM
most trade is BTC/LTC not USD/LTC , so that's why


Title: Re: In simple terms, why are BTC and LTC prices so closely tied?
Post by: odolvlobo on February 14, 2014, 09:26:18 PM
Can someone explain in plain simple English why Bitcoin and Litcoin prices so closely tied? Just curious. Thanks.

These:

most trade is BTC/LTC not USD/LTC , so that's why
Because they are mostly the same thing, also because they can very easily be exchanged.

Not these:

Arbitrage.
Because Litecoin is pegged to Bitcoin.


Title: Re: In simple terms, why are BTC and LTC prices so closely tied?
Post by: Tirapon on February 14, 2014, 09:28:46 PM
http://thegenesisblock.com/understanding-the-gold-silver-ratio-and-how-it-may-apply-to-bitcoin-and-litecoin/



Title: Re: In simple terms, why are BTC and LTC prices so closely tied?
Post by: keithers on February 14, 2014, 09:48:03 PM
Arbitrage.

I've been around these parts long enough to remember when the exchange rate was about 300 LTC for 1 BTC. But now, litecoin has grown up some and is no longer as puny or volatile a market as it once was.

Yes, this is correct.   I came in when the exchange rate had gone up to about 150 LTC to 1 BTC, and the ratio has gone up significantly from there  (even with the decline we have seen over the recent days).


Title: Re: In simple terms, why are BTC and LTC prices so closely tied?
Post by: epicradness on February 14, 2014, 10:15:32 PM
Very informative. I've always wondered this too.



Title: Re: In simple terms, why are BTC and LTC prices so closely tied?
Post by: keithers on February 14, 2014, 11:46:51 PM
As mentioned above, the price is so closely tied, because there are not very many major exchanges that support Litecoin, and to my knowledge there isn't anyone reputable that offers a service like Coinbase for LTC.   

BTC-E is the big player in regards to exchanges for LTC, and a large portion of the LTC transactions are purchases of LTC with BTC.

Once Litecoin has more mainstream adoption, and more major exchanges support it, we will finally see LTC separate itself a bit from having a mirror image of the BTC chart.

I have about 65% BTC and 35% LTC.   I truly think that in the future LTC may very well be the currency that gets used for day to day purchases, whereas BTC could eventually become a large store of value used only for major purchases...


Title: Re: In simple terms, why are BTC and LTC prices so closely tied?
Post by: Cryptopher on February 15, 2014, 12:01:01 AM
Most coins in general that are exclusively tied to BTC i.e. COIN/BTC are going to fluctuate along with BTC, unless they have their own news.

LTC is traded for USD in some places, but not many. It has kind of lost its way a bit in the past two months, It used to be 0.035 BTC per LTC, now it is sitting around the 0.025 mark (on BTC-E).


Title: Re: In simple terms, why are BTC and LTC prices so closely tied?
Post by: keithers on February 15, 2014, 06:53:11 PM
Most coins in general that are exclusively tied to BTC i.e. COIN/BTC are going to fluctuate along with BTC, unless they have their own news.

LTC is traded for USD in some places, but not many. It has kind of lost its way a bit in the past two months, It used to be 0.035 BTC per LTC, now it is sitting around the 0.025 mark (on BTC-E).

I think any LTC news has been buried by the overwhelmingly bad news (whether true or not) that has come out about BTC over the past week and a half...


Title: Re: In simple terms, why are BTC and LTC prices so closely tied?
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on February 15, 2014, 06:57:35 PM
because gold and silver are also closely tied.


Title: Re: In simple terms, why are BTC and LTC prices so closely tied?
Post by: N[e]wBie on February 15, 2014, 09:27:40 PM
as the market cap of litecoin becomes closer to btc it should make the price target of LTC reach closer to 1:1


Title: Re: In simple terms, why are BTC and LTC prices so closely tied?
Post by: medUSA on February 15, 2014, 09:37:48 PM
It always puzzles me how LTC is pegged to BTC??
What mechanism does it use?
Now I can only assume it is pegged purely on expectations.

I remember months ago, so many of people said LTC should be 0.25BTC (4:1)
because it's total supply is four times of BTC. I said WHAT?

I wonder where those people are now...


Title: Re: In simple terms, why are BTC and LTC prices so closely tied?
Post by: roslinpl on February 15, 2014, 11:33:41 PM
Can someone explain in plain simple English why Bitcoin and Litcoin prices so closely tied? Just curious. Thanks.

I guess it is not so simple - during hisory we could see a lot of day when price was not realy related.


Title: Re: In simple terms, why are BTC and LTC prices so closely tied?
Post by: cdog on February 15, 2014, 11:41:46 PM
as the market cap of litecoin becomes closer to btc it should make the price target of LTC reach closer to 4:1

FYP

I think 4:1-5:1 would be ideal, Im thinking $10k BTC means ~$2500 LTC  ;D


Title: Re: In simple terms, why are BTC and LTC prices so closely tied?
Post by: Melbustus on February 15, 2014, 11:42:02 PM
In simple terms?: Because there's little reason for litecoin to exist.

Litecoin is the same as bitcoin, without the first-mover advantage, network effects, mindshare, or infrastructure. At best, it *may* offer some sort of vague "insurance" blockchain against bitcoin's (but that's a pretty weak argument, given that, especially as we saw this week, issues in bitcoin are likely to be mirrored in all derivative alts). I'd say best case, ltc value caps at 1/40th bitcoin's (1/4 from the supply size, and then minus an order of magnitude for all the above reasons).

Note I said best case. Most likely, I think, far less. Litecoin in the past could be held up as "interesting" by people who didn't think particularly well/deeply about the space, while there weren't many other alts out there. Now that there are, it's clear that even things like Dogecoin have the potential to unseat LTC as the alt princess of the day. At least Doge is a fascinating exercise in internet viral marketing.

Ultimately I think we'll see next-gen alts that truly offer unique capabilities steal first-gen alt's thunder.

Each new, even slightly successful, alt likely takes market-share from the existing derivative alts more than anything else, and for the time being, with litecoin as the highest capitalized alt, it has the most to lose.