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Title: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: Lendo.io on July 18, 2018, 04:43:47 PM
Cryptocurrency owners will no doubt be relieved and delighted that the market is going through a turnaround and green arrows are showing for the major coins. Most significantly for some experts, Bitcoin’s rise to above $7,000 on 17th July, gaining $600 in 30 minutes, highlighted the possibility of the start of a strong bull run.

Of course, there are always those who urge caution when optimism seems to be getting too much of the upper hand, but according to Coindesk, if you look at Bitcoin over a longer time frame there is reason to be cautiously optimistic, as a politician might say.

Coindesk also points to three tools investors use to analyse the markets in order to establish whether a trend has staying power.

Exponential Moving Averages (EMA)
An EMA provides insights into the asking bid and the momentum of a trend. They can be used to confirm or deny a trend change by analyzing the position of the EMA in relation to the current price. It involves use of the Fibonacci number 55, and for example, from May 11 to July 16, the 55 EMA for bitcoin was above the price acting as a barrier or resistance to any major moves past $6,860. However, since 17th July, the EMA has fallen below the current price, indicating a significant breakout, at least for the mid-term.

Fibonacci extensions
More of that Fibonacci sequence that traders use to identify major resistance or support. What you are looking for in an extensions and retracement chart are any major moves above the neutral Fibonacci extension at 0.5 as these would help to confirm the bullish view of the market.

Trading volume
Traders also look at trading volume and they will be looking at the total volume of Bitcoin that changed hands in a 24-hour period. On 17th July, Bitcoin volume reached a three-month high, and doubled the volume traded on 16th July. As volume increases, the price strengthens, because there are more buy/sell opportunities and greater liquidity. Keep a sharp eye on the volume as it is one of the best indicators for determining the strength of a particular move in relation to the amount traded


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: Saint1990 on July 18, 2018, 04:54:37 PM
I think the whales are again manipulating the markets. We will be able to see this in 2 to 3 days. If the price of the BTC remain stable than I think market will move on with positive attitude towards bull run or again we will see artificial correction.


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: IgorShumilo on July 18, 2018, 05:15:17 PM
It seems to me that no analysis can predict whether bitcoin will go up or down. I believe that this is known to a narrow group of people who have a large stock of bitcoins, and if you look at the top 10 purses, it's in the fall of the crypto-exchange markets. Now think for yourself who can manipulate the course.


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: nunibanuni on July 18, 2018, 05:26:23 PM
If you look closely about btc history, it keeps on repeating its chart almost the same every year. But i think everything that is happening now are controlled by those large holder of btc. They keep on playing the market and keep profits for themselves though i still believe that btc will eventually rise up to the occassions. Lets see if btc prive will become stable in this coming days then i think that its the start of the real investors coming in crypto market.


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: Schirer on July 18, 2018, 05:32:11 PM
I agree with you with the volume, it has spiked very significantly in lst days compared to last month and this is a good thing.
But as far as these other financial indicators go , I dont think that they are big factors.
other financial indicators and theories failed one after another in last months when a lot of TA called for reversal.


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: Zadicar on July 18, 2018, 05:33:14 PM
It seems to me that no analysis can predict whether bitcoin will go up or down. I believe that this is known to a narrow group of people who have a large stock of bitcoins, and if you look at the top 10 purses, it's in the fall of the crypto-exchange markets. Now think for yourself who can manipulate the course.
Even this is just a common answer but I do highly agree on this post where theres no such analysis made by people either professional or veteran ones in the market. Prices would always been unpredictable. We might see some factors or possibilities that it can hold up but it wont be totally a guarantee that the price would really headed on that way. Until now we don't even know on whats the current factors being affecting on such small gradual increase of the entire market.


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: Noobaru on July 19, 2018, 09:01:15 PM
Thanks for this insightful explanation. While I too, for one, wish that bull would come, I would rather have it at the end of the year to be similar if not better to the last year. There is no particular reason for that, I just think and feel that holidays are the best for this kind of thing. :D


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: Vengland on July 21, 2018, 08:58:05 AM
The level has increased significantly and is indeed a silver lining on the cloud for us. We just need to have our patience and faith intact and we need to wait a little longer for the market to hit the complete bull run.


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: Loye on July 21, 2018, 09:40:21 AM
The opportunities are vast, growing and with proper evidence seen, so definitely it will stick.


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: jeungo on July 21, 2018, 09:45:58 AM
There are clear signs that there will be growth, it is necessary to feel the moment when exactly this will begin to occur. The market is going to a whole group of people who are already ready to buy but are waiting for a clear signal which is likely to become an informational occasion about ETF.


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: fransxavariustintin on July 21, 2018, 09:50:57 AM
I really appreciate your efforts in analyzing the movement of market value increase of cryptocurrency, you do this with good data and research, I will not hesitate to use your data in my research, I believe crypto will soon go back up, although no one can guess the price crypto appropriately, but surely there is data to be true.


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: face foul on July 21, 2018, 12:17:38 PM
There are many forces that are trying to control the market, but recent spikes in the price of BTC are just indicating that these forces can not always keep a hold of the market. Sooner or late BTC will eventually rise again, it may even surpass its previous value this year.


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: LuckyHarriet on July 21, 2018, 01:48:43 PM
if you speak to the investors of cryptocurrency or notice it's history you will clearly able to understand it that no prediction is ever good enough for deciding crypto future maybe we can assume a possibility but nothing is confirmed here so we cannot get confirmation that cryptography rise will be stick prices are unstable here


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: Stumbleupon on July 21, 2018, 02:00:45 PM
From my point of view its quiet impossible to analysis the bitcoin price. If you want to know this thing you have to analysis the trend. As far I realize a small group of people have vast sector in bitcoin. If you look up the top segment you will find its totally crypto exchange market. Now think and interpret  yourselves.


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: EscapePlanETH on July 21, 2018, 02:03:04 PM
I think the Bull Run is going to be happened earlier this year. Not only Bitcoin I thing EOS and some other major coins are going to be pumped in the Bull Run. So it will be better for us to be prepared for the Bull Run.


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: CorneliaMarket on July 21, 2018, 02:39:37 PM
Although crypto market is very unpredictable but the stable condition is a signal of bull run I think. Hope you are telling the truth. If bull run happen we all will be benefited from it.


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: worldtraveller505 on July 22, 2018, 01:03:13 PM
Cryptocurrency is very fluctuate. So, there's a great possibility that it will rise very soon and there are much possibilities to rise up after July. I'm truly optimistic about this.


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: MV7 on July 22, 2018, 01:04:26 PM
I honestly don't think people can rely on traditional market measures to predict crypto. The market has been manipulated so much that normal historical charts and things like that are not very useful.


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: CoinCollect on July 22, 2018, 05:33:49 PM
It seems to me that no analysis can predict whether bitcoin will go up or down. I believe that this is known to a narrow group of people who have a large stock of bitcoins, and if you look at the top 10 purses, it's in the fall of the crypto-exchange markets. Now think for yourself who can manipulate the course.
I think you're right, unfortunately. Prices for cryptocurrencies now do not depend on news or any other factors, everything is tied to how it will be more profitable for a small group of people.


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: bit-freedom on July 22, 2018, 05:46:19 PM
I feel that technical analysis can’t predict crypto movements accurately, it is good for investment references thou.  Crypto prices are more sensitive to news. Just my 2 satoshi.


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: 13ex07 on July 22, 2018, 05:53:43 PM
I saw how bitcoin goes against the indicators and falls on the good news.
Therefore, we must hope for good, but prepare for a bad  ;)


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: Ini35 on July 22, 2018, 06:38:59 PM
We have so many predictions these days and what i discovered is that most of them keep failing. Some would predict fall in a set time, but what we would see afterwards is rise. On the the other hand, rise would be predicted for another set time, but on the contrary, it would be a plunge again in price. There are some who just by their activities and their set goals, determine the price of coins in the market. That not withstanding, the recovery might still be sustained and may likely lead to another bull run.


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: qazgroup on July 22, 2018, 06:46:30 PM
Also keep an eye on btc dominancy it has grown nicely so from this i can easilypredict that atleast btc is set to surge in price as all major indicators are positive.


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: DarkTaiga on July 22, 2018, 06:47:02 PM
I honestly don't think people can rely on traditional market measures to predict crypto. The market has been manipulated so much that normal historical charts and things like that are not very useful.
Yup! The price of bitcoin depends entirely on the investor. It is useless when we use the "past" to predict "future". Until now, I haven't seen anyone predict exactly the fate of bitcoins.
Prices for cryptocurrencies now do not depend on news or any other factors, everything is tied to how it will be more profitable for a small group of people.
I really don't understand this. As I say, bitcoin prices depend on the investor, so I think bitcoin will go down if it have bad news.



Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: blue_hurricanger on July 22, 2018, 06:47:16 PM
It seems to me that no analysis can predict whether bitcoin will go up or down. I believe that this is known to a narrow group of people who have a large stock of bitcoins, and if you look at the top 10 purses, it's in the fall of the crypto-exchange markets. Now think for yourself who can manipulate the course.
Agree. Some put too much time trying to think how crypto works and predict it. I think it was a waste of time because of crypto is very different from stock in a lot of aspects. Like the thing, you mention above about manipulate from whale.


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: miracle24 on July 22, 2018, 08:20:53 PM
We heard and seen all this throughout the year and bitcoin has not played per analysis. Bitcoin will rise when it's ready not cause of a chat.


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: socksserver3 on July 22, 2018, 08:26:31 PM
Thanks for sharing very useful information. I am sure that crypto will rise. It is the risky market but what to do, if you want to earn good money, you need to take risks. You should take into account these signals


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: yorannic on July 22, 2018, 09:06:30 PM
these 3 tools very well help to navigate the market, but they are just tools. The real picture in my opinion is different, because the market is very manipulative, the big players play not by the rules and against the market, creating news for both pampas and dumps. You can add to the list of tracking the number of bitcoins on large purses.


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: megaflux7 on July 22, 2018, 09:27:28 PM
Yea the signs are there but T.A and F.A have woefully failed to predict what the market is going be like since the begining of the year. Only time will tell mayb the growth will be consistent and stable.


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: OluwaTosin10 on July 22, 2018, 09:46:54 PM
I think the rise of bitcoin does not depend on the rise/fall of crypto currency news anymore
it now depends on the demand/supply of bitcoin and altcoins on the exchange that determines that

when there is little scarcity, the market pumps, and when everyone has enough it dumps
Its a normal sequence and soon, im sure the price and demand for bitcoin will be higher soon


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: cryptofun888 on July 22, 2018, 09:50:25 PM
Based on this statement I think big whales are doing something’s to the market also because of demand and supply the price is still to stick also we are expecting this price will increase soon and analysts are suggesting to hold coin now.


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: H4hire on July 22, 2018, 09:58:19 PM
Cryptocurrency owners will no doubt be relieved and delighted that the market is going through a turnaround and green arrows are showing for the major coins. Most significantly for some experts, Bitcoin’s rise to above $7,000 on 17th July, gaining $600 in 30 minutes, highlighted the possibility of the start of a strong bull run.

Of course, there are always those who urge caution when optimism seems to be getting too much of the upper hand, but according to Coindesk, if you look at Bitcoin over a longer time frame there is reason to be cautiously optimistic, as a politician might say.

Coindesk also points to three tools investors use to analyse the markets in order to establish whether a trend has staying power.

Exponential Moving Averages (EMA)
An EMA provides insights into the asking bid and the momentum of a trend. They can be used to confirm or deny a trend change by analyzing the position of the EMA in relation to the current price. It involves use of the Fibonacci number 55, and for example, from May 11 to July 16, the 55 EMA for bitcoin was above the price acting as a barrier or resistance to any major moves past $6,860. However, since 17th July, the EMA has fallen below the current price, indicating a significant breakout, at least for the mid-term.

Fibonacci extensions
More of that Fibonacci sequence that traders use to identify major resistance or support. What you are looking for in an extensions and retracement chart are any major moves above the neutral Fibonacci extension at 0.5 as these would help to confirm the bullish view of the market.

Trading volume
Traders also look at trading volume and they will be looking at the total volume of Bitcoin that changed hands in a 24-hour period. On 17th July, Bitcoin volume reached a three-month high, and doubled the volume traded on 16th July. As volume increases, the price strengthens, because there are more buy/sell opportunities and greater liquidity. Keep a sharp eye on the volume as it is one of the best indicators for determining the strength of a particular move in relation to the amount traded

its hard to even try to guess how the market will perform price wise but im always suspicious of any upwards movements until price holds for a week or so. lets hope the good news keeps comin


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: Mix_Fix on July 22, 2018, 09:59:18 PM
I believe that only whales can tell what will be on market. They can manipulate price as fast and as regular as they want. I can't explain why BTC price is dropping during good news and vice versa.


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: ordeath on July 22, 2018, 10:14:31 PM
I can agree on that and many of economists are all around the world, saying that cryptocurrency just be forced to go up and it has no chance to die right now, because right now it is replacing of system taking place.


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: kendra1107 on July 22, 2018, 11:01:53 PM
If you look closely about btc history, it keeps on repeating its chart almost the same every year. But i think everything that is happening now are controlled by those large holder of btc. They keep on playing the market and keep profits for themselves though i still believe that btc will eventually rise up to the occassions. Lets see if btc prive will become stable in this coming days then i think that its the start of the real investors coming in crypto market.
This is true. Big players will always do their "thing" in order to manipulate any system for their own gain. I don't blame them though because they are capable to do so. And, it is a game and this is how things work here. But the good thing is that a trend has been established basing from history. So small players like myself take advantage of this trend by using it as a guide in our trading. It's just like following a track so that we won't get lost.


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: Aeneous on July 22, 2018, 11:25:02 PM
Ask anyone about cryptocurrency from any part of the world today and they will clearly tell you what it is, thats fame right there, the popularity of the coins av gone so high and so is its adaptability, people are out there  amaking money off it and that in itself is reason enough to attract more people toit, the more people coming onboardthe highre the chance are that the coin will stick


Title: Re: 3 signals that the crypto rise will stick
Post by: cryptocrabs2 on July 23, 2018, 02:36:03 PM
It's great to see the market to turnaround and regain back its previous position. The prices of cryptocurrencies are slowly increasing and getting a stable position in the market. This is the good news for the investors. Some investors believe that the rise is due to the market manipulation by big whales.