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Title: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: Tilbrook007 on July 19, 2018, 09:28:32 AM
We are above 7K now and it is possible?
Nothing would surprise me!


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: CryptoTamer on July 19, 2018, 10:07:02 AM
We are above 7K now and it is possible?
Nothing would surprise me!

I think market manipulators will not attempt to make the market crash at this time because a lot of good news about Bitcoin appeared in this month, maybe they will support the price to grow because it could be more profitable for them


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: Leonyx on July 19, 2018, 10:12:52 AM
There are many people manipulating the market. Not just one person. And they need them for long term profit. I think they will not do the market right now. And they are having positive news with the market so I think the market will go up. Not crash


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: Fenderr on July 19, 2018, 10:17:50 AM
They have more gain if the price of Bitcoin increases as they surely would have bought the dip, and so they want some profits too. Market manipulators are mostly at work when they want to accumulate more BTC, so they crash the price to it cheap.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: CuriousGeorge on July 19, 2018, 10:23:54 AM
We are above 7K now and it is possible?
Nothing would surprise me!
It's possible but it will happene this time consider the bitcoin mtgox has been getting rehabilitation and mtgox trustee has stated he will not dump the bitcoin again to the market and he will try to pay the bitcoin directly to the all of creditors of mtgox itself.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: dodziu on July 19, 2018, 10:36:18 AM
We are above 7K now and it is possible?
Nothing would surprise me!
Well as much as we know that anything can happen especially with the price manipulators in crypto, I think they will not do anything negative to the price of bitcoin again this period because I believe most of them would have bought at dip and they will still make profit and moreover, there are positive news around the bitcoin and this will also help it to continue growing.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: coco23 on July 19, 2018, 10:37:47 AM
In the end the manipulators also want to make a profit. If they can earn a profit by "crashing" the market, then they might do it, but in the end such a crash might only be temporary....


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: Sadyshagg on July 19, 2018, 10:39:11 AM
Scholars in the world of finance, and in this case, cryptocurrencies, know very well the risks that exist in this business, it is good that the CBOE has established insurance for the investment fund, that way investors will be protected. any kind of failures and this gives them security.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: oxoxoxox on July 19, 2018, 11:12:59 AM
You can have some misunderstandings. Only if the market exists, the controllers can continue to make money. There are no whales/sharks that want the market to collapse, because they will be the biggest victims!


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: adroitful_one on July 19, 2018, 01:40:43 PM
I'm sure most of them have already bought in the huge slump we've been in for the last few months. I'm sure they're getting ready for the price to go back up again so they can cash in on some of those profits they've been accumulating. I don't think they're going to crash the price right now.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: pageraji on July 19, 2018, 03:58:29 PM
i think no crash right now, with market like this week every whales investor is prepare to have a party because may be they have bought in dip last month..


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: cryptohunter on July 19, 2018, 05:01:23 PM
As adoption grows then whales gradually over time will hopefully be reduced in power.
Of course gamblers with weak hands are not adoption so those wont help.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: YuginKadoya on July 19, 2018, 05:16:32 PM
Well think out of the box for a moment, Many are speculating that manipulators would not want the increasing value of bitcoin to crash anymore but think again we can not read their minds and see what they are thinking right now, And manipulators are not only just 1 person but a group they can have a debate about when they can manipulate the market or a vote if they would do it or not, And yes we can see that the price is at $7000 above but do you think it will continue growing and up to $8000 USD or more? or are we having another crash? I am saying that we should not expect these pumps a good thing but can also be sign that we are into another crash because this is might another bull trap.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: cryptohunter on July 20, 2018, 04:51:28 PM
Well think out of the box for a moment, Many are speculating that manipulators would not want the increasing value of bitcoin to crash anymore but think again we can not read their minds and see what they are thinking right now, And manipulators are not only just 1 person but a group they can have a debate about when they can manipulate the market or a vote if they would do it or not, And yes we can see that the price is at $7000 above but do you think it will continue growing and up to $8000 USD or more? or are we having another crash? I am saying that we should not expect these pumps a good thing but can also be sign that we are into another crash because this is might another bull trap.

This is why trying to guess what whales are going to do is pointless.
Better to look at the news concerning adoption and regulation. To me it all looks bullish. However the demand for btc is still confined to speculators most whom are sheep who can be pushed and scared out at any point. This will change over time as real demand for crypto grows.

If you are in for the very long haul you will not lose holding btc unless a black swan event happens now.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: swissgang on July 20, 2018, 06:30:03 PM
It can crash, go back below $6000 or break $8000 and that is not about manipulators. That is mostly about the trade on the exchange, otherd have little effect for me.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: Gozie51 on July 20, 2018, 07:34:44 PM
I wouldn't agree that manipulators will force price down again, the market has been ripe for a bullish and going by the technicals, the price breaking the $8,000 will get us to $10,000 level.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: smoolae on July 20, 2018, 07:57:21 PM
There are periods of time when bigger players accumulate for cheap price and times when the same players sell for big profits. They cannot just crash the market, that would scare away too many buyers, but surely they can manipulate to bring on the FOMO for everyday people.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: iakas on July 20, 2018, 08:33:10 PM
The market manipulators are  earning a lot of money with the future market (CBOE), despite the increase the market trend is still depressed.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: jeffthebaker on July 21, 2018, 12:04:04 AM
Y'all ever think that maybe there legitimately are no market manipulators and instead everyone who FOMO'd into crypto in Winter got burnt out and sold all the way down coupled with ICOs dumping crypto to afford operating costs?

Really makes ya think


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: EastSound on July 21, 2018, 12:50:38 AM
IMO the legislators are the one responsible in the crash of the crypto market like for example the recent hearing on crypto in the U.S, congressman Brad Sherman is filing to ban the use of crypto and mining in the U.S.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: paramind22 on July 21, 2018, 12:54:19 AM
Maybe Bitcoin antagonists made the pump to $20,000 last year and now they use the BTC they bought to fill low sell orders, bringing down the price. This lower market price creates a sense of FUD, when in reality, BTC's marketcap is a major achievement.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: Dreamchaser21 on July 21, 2018, 01:11:30 AM
We are above 7K now and it is possible?
Nothing would surprise me!
It can happen again but no this time I think, we already hit the bottom this year and whales will pump the market now. Manipulators may comeback next year and I hope it will be at a different level.

In the end the manipulators also want to make a profit. If they can earn a profit by "crashing" the market, then they might do it, but in the end such a crash might only be temporary....
Yeah, those who will dump the market are also the one who will pump this market harder. Let's just follow the trend and never argue on that so you will not lose your money. Right now we are in a total red market again but I think this will only last for at least 2 days.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: vanmoreno on July 21, 2018, 01:40:03 AM
to manipulation in bitcoin market is not easy you should have a lot of money or you hold thousands btc, if manipulator is the one who control the news, social media, FOMO, FUD and etc, i think thats a clever work to move trend market


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: enhu on July 21, 2018, 01:45:00 AM
to manipulation in bitcoin market is not easy you should have a lot of money or you hold thousands btc, if manipulator is the one who control the news, social media, FOMO, FUD and etc, i think thats a clever work to move trend market

The news are also manipulated which is why I don't trust those news but you can ride with them so you can profit. Now that analyst say the price didn't dip to its bottom yet until it don't go down to $5K. I'm not sure whether to believe this as well but you can dump yours and see for yourself. If it happens then you can buy back when the price dip to $5k. Its going to be good for those who plan at least to have 1 BTC before its price go $50k.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: Oasisman on July 21, 2018, 03:55:40 AM
to manipulation in bitcoin market is not easy you should have a lot of money or you hold thousands btc, if manipulator is the one who control the news, social media, FOMO, FUD and etc, i think thats a clever work to move trend market

The news are also manipulated which is why I don't trust those news but you can ride with them so you can profit. Now that analyst say the price didn't dip to its bottom yet until it don't go down to $5K. I'm not sure whether to believe this as well but you can dump yours and see for yourself. If it happens then you can buy back when the price dip to $5k. Its going to be good for those who plan at least to have 1 BTC before its price go $50k.

You need to have atleast 1,000 bitcoin to consider yourself a whale, but that is just the minimum. Exchanges are also considered one, as they are capable of holding large amount of bitcoin and several alts as well. With just one big sold out it could affect the prices in the market. Fake news could be made by manipulators to help increase or decrease the prices, as some of the people relies on the news on whether when they need to buy and to sell. Main point is, manipulation exist in every market.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: passwordnow on July 21, 2018, 05:08:28 AM
We are above 7K now and it is possible?
Nothing would surprise me!
Possible that they will crash the market?

Everything's possible in the crypto market whether it is because of whales or just by the power of most investors.

These whales wanted to have more profit too instead of crashing the market.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: rayk on July 21, 2018, 06:55:39 AM
I don't know but there are many manipulators and they can crash the market but there are also many buyers like them so it would rise again.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: haryatiposton01 on July 21, 2018, 07:08:41 AM
I think the market manipulator will not make the market go awry, because all altcoin is affected by Bitcoin prices, if they continue to manipulate the market, investors will get angry and bored, investors can leave crypto, I think manipulator understand this situation, I hope they are generous and leave the normal market back.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: bozo333 on July 21, 2018, 07:18:01 AM
I don't know but there are many manipulators and they can crash the market but there are also many buyers like them so it would rise again.
Market is depends on investors and some adoption so totally we can said manipulators are involved in the pump and dump. I think some adoption is comes in the market we can expect good pump and some banning issues are regulations are comes in any country automatically this will dump continuously. So we should not completely know the details in Crypto fluctuation.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: Shushale65 on July 21, 2018, 01:59:00 PM
Now bitcoin is very strong and entrenched above the level of 7200 dollars, so no one will let him now fall. Even if someone wants to manipulate the price of bitcoin, they will not be able to bring down the price below 6500 dollars.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: Coinrush20 on July 21, 2018, 02:19:24 PM
With the recent influx of value for Bitcoin no body has predicted that market growth. Now, after that increase the market has not been able to move far away from the where it left of. There is a strong possibility of a big crash to take money from the weak hands. As analyst said there are series of pump and dump that will happen in the coming weeks.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: muncuss on July 21, 2018, 02:22:46 PM
Y'all ever think that maybe there legitimately are no market manipulators and instead everyone who FOMO'd into crypto in Winter got burnt out and sold all the way down coupled with ICOs dumping crypto to afford operating costs?

Really makes ya think
There are manipulators, they use that big dump in early year to make price down in long time. you think why we face bear in almost 7 months?
they surely get big profit selling in dec and many cheap btc accumulating in low price


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: Klovezio on July 22, 2018, 12:10:17 PM
We are above 7K now and it is possible?
Nothing would surprise me!
just process. Market is not too weak to crash easier. Instead of worry about market crash, i would make more attention on which price i shall buy profitably.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: anahata on July 24, 2018, 10:59:49 PM
Y'all ever think that maybe there legitimately are no market manipulators and instead everyone who FOMO'd into crypto in Winter got burnt out and sold all the way down coupled with ICOs dumping crypto to afford operating costs?

Really makes ya think
There are manipulators, they use that big dump in early year to make price down in long time. you think why we face bear in almost 7 months?
they surely get big profit selling in dec and many cheap btc accumulating in low price

There game is set as always. They have accumulated enough at low price. And now they will just sit back for a while and let the price appreciate. Then rinse and repeat after some time.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: ttg43 on August 12, 2018, 05:07:04 AM
Manipulators will manipulate but the main concern is not that. The only answer to the manipulators is to ignore the negative news. As everyone is well known to the fact that news plays a massive role in the crypto market.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: tadpole_bitfrog on August 12, 2018, 05:17:56 AM
We are above 7K now and it is possible?
Nothing would surprise me!
manipulation will not cause Bitcoin to crash. Because I think they will strategically make the mentality of the traders different day by day and make money from traders who have no knowledge of Crypto.
I think the manipulation will never make the value of the altcoins go down too much, I still believe in the strong development of Cryptocurrency in the future.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: boty on August 12, 2018, 05:35:46 AM
It seems that price manipulation will be very difficult because the demand for bitcoin is so much that there will be lots of buying orders that make bitcoin prices difficult to manipulate.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: yakushev on August 12, 2018, 08:15:30 AM
We are above 7K now and it is possible?
Nothing would surprise me!
Whales are looking for new earnings on new investors. Now all the conditions for beginners are created and I think this is the trap that was created artificially to make money on trusting investors.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: Sylvial on August 12, 2018, 08:28:02 AM
I think the current crash in the market is a product of manipulation. These guys in congress have a way of spreading FUD which the crypto community will always respond to negatively, resulting in massive sell off.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: Donned on August 12, 2018, 09:35:23 AM
I don't think bitcoin has a manipulator.
Just because the market's supply and demand has caused bitcoin to fall, however, it is already at the bottom.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: Sylvial on August 12, 2018, 09:49:23 AM
Manipulations happen in almost every market. But the manipulation in the crypto market is even more pronounced because the market is unregulated. The market cannot crash because of manipulators, but it will end up making potential investors lose confidence in the market, consequently, no injection of fresh funds.


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: irixo10 on August 12, 2018, 01:17:21 PM
There are lots of whales and sharks in this market. This market can not be collapsed by any individual. If they set up a team large enough to be determined to do that, then it could happen. But no one wants to do that because this is where they become millionaires and billionaires


Title: Re: Will the Bitcoin market manipulators crash the market?
Post by: nizelong on August 12, 2018, 01:19:15 PM


It is impossible for operators to let the market collapse. The purpose of controlling prices is to earn a difference. If the market collapses, their investment costs will also die in the market!