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Alternate cryptocurrencies => Speculation (Altcoins) => Topic started by: LektorGuru on July 19, 2018, 02:52:42 PM



Title: [XVG] Verge claims itself decentralised, is it really is?
Post by: LektorGuru on July 19, 2018, 02:52:42 PM
I am one of the first guys to believe in Verge, back there in 2016, was buying it since 3 satoshi. I have a big bag of it. I have made big profits on it. I still want it to succeed, that is why i make everything that i wrote down here and even this post!
What is happening with a coin lately is just a trash.

It is all started with my discussion in discord, where i got an instant ban. I wondered why Verge makes friendship with TPAY, shouting about it on public, when TokenPay is PoS coin. On the https://vergecurrency.com/faq/mining/ you can see, what Verge core team thinks about these 2 systems. After this question, i got perma flamed by VergeArmy of trolls, with "why do you care, we will have debit cards and price goes up etc etc", after trying to argue with them, i got banned in Verge discord, after i tryed same in telegram, got insta ban.

So where is a decentralisation, if we have Core-admins and moderators in public channels, where you get banned for just asking questions.
I tryed to talk in TPAY telegram channel and got instant ban for just starting PoW/PoS discussion, i didnt say Tpay is bad or something like this, just said, that PoS system is same system we have now with Dollar...InstaBan.

I still believe in XVG, i wrote many articles on it, why verge is the best altcoin now by far, (one of https://steemit.com/crypto/@larphraulen/why-verge) i shilled it to maaaany many people in private groups as WolfOfPoloniex, CryptoHub, my big national crypto chats... everywhere.
So why Verge marketing team is talking so much about best decentralisation and acts like this in public channels. Nobody bans you in Bitcoin channels, if you trying to argue about Lightning, CTs or whatever, i can type and post whatever i want, everybody has own opinion. And TPAY+VERGE now look like scared of this topic (PoS/PoW) to be in discussion.

Even more, some guys from marketing Verge team know me, as i am a solid investor, first VergePreacher and they saw my articles and when i started this discussion, they just say "stop it, you are one of VergeFam, we dont want to ban you".

Why can not i discuss this topic? Who picks admins in public channels? Mass Media, telegram and discord play a big role today, one of the main roles in marketing. And if we talk about mass adoption, such behavior will destroy attitude. Many people of my own channel in TG ask me about PoS/PoW. You think, you can ban fast, so nobody see and understand?
What if people have another uncomfortable questions, you will continue banning everyone?
Everybody was just laughing, when i said, that i am going to sell all my stack at needed price, ok, laugh, you think people are stupid, but more people talk around about ugly behavior in discord/TG of Verge, this will destroy you, remember my words.

Further about decentralisation. Why Satoshi went in shadows? Because his personality can lead to the only reason of failure. In every other project we have now a main person (Charlie Lee - LTC, Vinny - CVC, etc..)
But all of them are smart enough to be silent now and separate coin foundations from the coin itself, separate persons name from coins name. Real decentralisation lies here!

What happens if Charlie Lee got killed? A lot, but it will not affect much as if Justinvendetta dissapears. All people now  depend on his personality. And what he and his team are doing? Changing projects, getting busy with TPAY, making marketing for it. Who left with Verge? Ugly moderators trolls in discord and telegram.

Change rules, admins and behavior in public channels.


Title: Re: Verge claims itself decentralised, is it really is?
Post by: LektorGuru on July 19, 2018, 04:31:18 PM
Wow, these guys on SMM in Verge. I just try to make new accounts and ask about POW/POS partnership with TPAY, you just get instaban everywhere, no matter, what "language" (style) do you use. Just these guys dont want to talk about this topic at all...


Title: Re: Verge claims itself decentralised, is it really is?
Post by: adroitful_one on July 19, 2018, 04:57:41 PM
The decentralization part comes from the blockchain i'm assuming. Same as every other coin. It's in the fact that everyone has a copy of the ledger and not one single person is in control of the money. I don't think they really meant that the coin is a democracy that people can vote on to make changes.


Title: Re: Verge claims itself decentralised, is it really is?
Post by: LektorGuru on July 19, 2018, 07:29:46 PM
The decentralization part comes from the blockchain i'm assuming. Same as every other coin. It's in the fact that everyone has a copy of the ledger and not one single person is in control of the money. I don't think they really meant that the coin is a democracy that people can vote on to make changes.
Anybody knows, how to make a poll here? At the start of the topic?
The thing is, Verge community doesnt let you discuss or vote for anything concerning PoS/PoW


Title: Re: Verge claims itself decentralised, is it really is?
Post by: Hamphser on July 19, 2018, 07:55:31 PM
I don't even consider this shitcoin to be a good one since from the beginning. They way they do evade such topic is quite shady yet they do decide to ban you out without any further explanations about that matter.
Don't bother your self too much if they are decentralized because just basing on their token and the way they do behaves then its clear as water on whats truly behind that team.


Title: Re: Verge claims itself decentralised, is it really is?
Post by: 17men on July 19, 2018, 08:23:51 PM
What bappened to the stolen verges btw?


Title: Re: Verge claims itself decentralised, is it really is?
Post by: Cryptostocks on July 19, 2018, 08:47:18 PM
In fact, it is, that is why they have their own blockchain, but i am more than sure in that verge is just another shitcoin, i do not understand why there are too many people supporting this shitcoin at the moment, it is a dead coin now


Title: Re: Verge claims itself decentralised, is it really is?
Post by: LektorGuru on July 19, 2018, 10:00:39 PM
In fact, it is, that is why they have their own blockchain, but i am more than sure in that verge is just another shitcoin, i do not understand why there are too many people supporting this shitcoin at the moment, it is a dead coin now

I dont think it is a shitcoin.
What i want is to meet VergeArmy here, on bitcointalk, and ask them, if they think that it is good to shout everywhere "we are partnering with TPAY" and blame theory of PoS systems.
I think all this partnership should be silent, or done on the side


Title: Re: [XVG] Verge claims itself decentralised, is it really is?
Post by: LektorGuru on July 21, 2018, 09:56:13 PM
What happens to the price represents the situation around...Devs literally ruin the project


Title: Re: Verge claims itself decentralised, is it really is?
Post by: Oliveir on July 21, 2018, 10:21:02 PM
The decentralization part comes from the blockchain i'm assuming. Same as every other coin. It's in the fact that everyone has a copy of the ledger and not one single person is in control of the money. I don't think they really meant that the coin is a democracy that people can vote on to make changes.

I myself would like to tell the OP that every token as of today is decentralized even other were back up by banks it doesn't mean it is already centralize since even the bank can't control the flow of the token's price.


Title: Re: [XVG] Verge claims itself decentralised, is it really is?
Post by: Teraboy on July 21, 2018, 11:04:38 PM
What happens to the price represents the situation around...Devs literally ruin the project

I'm not sure if verge is decentralized and this what they call that verge is being a decentralized thing.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3256693.msg38135174#msg38135174

I remember all of the hacked cases that has happened in the verge blockchain was starting from the vulnerabilities that created by developer and hackers were so easily to hack that.


Title: Re: [XVG] Verge claims itself decentralised, is it really is?
Post by: LektorGuru on July 22, 2018, 12:15:29 AM
Yeah and still no code update for so long. Coin is dead foshoo. Porno cant save it


Title: Re: [XVG] Verge claims itself decentralised, is it really is?
Post by: EastSound on July 22, 2018, 12:32:00 AM
You cant call something decentralized when someone can produce coins and dump it on the exchange. Also their own community is even questioning the developers ability to code because it seems like he doesn't know how to fix anything in his own work.


Title: Re: [XVG] Verge claims itself decentralised, is it really is?
Post by: Ciucas on July 22, 2018, 06:39:04 AM
Verge has nothing special to it. It got so big just because it was heavily promoted by John Mcafee, and because they are doing good marketing. It's had it's good period, but i don't think it will ever grow again to over 0.10$.


Title: Re: [XVG] Verge claims itself decentralised, is it really is?
Post by: LektorGuru on July 26, 2018, 07:40:34 PM
And that is so sad, i put so much trust, time (to DYOR), money and other peoples trust in it...


Title: Re: [XVG] Verge claims itself decentralised, is it really is?
Post by: LektorGuru on July 29, 2018, 01:56:05 PM
Check this GUYS! https://twitter.com/RolanGood/status/1023560723912384512


Title: Re: [XVG] Verge claims itself decentralised, is it really is?
Post by: LektorGuru on July 29, 2018, 08:45:41 PM
PLEASE! IT IS URGENT! Check the twitt above and check this info too:
@trafficjunky verge payment not listed like xvg said.
@CryptoEmporium_  etihad partnership is a lie.
@LedgerHQ raising funds to get xvg on ledger is a lie.


Title: Re: [XVG] Verge claims itself decentralised, is it really is?
Post by: passwordnow on July 29, 2018, 08:49:52 PM
I really don't care about Verge claiming if they are decentralized or they can be the most used crypto or any title that they want to call them.

I just only think of one thing about them.

verge is just another shitcoin


Title: Re: [XVG] Verge claims itself decentralised, is it really is?
Post by: LektorGuru on August 12, 2018, 02:57:42 PM
So, it is going to fall at where it came from. 60 satoshis untill the end 2018