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Title: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: blockchange88 on July 28, 2018, 12:14:21 AM
Even at 500, I can't throw away my 1080tis. So much for equity...


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: buzzkillb on July 28, 2018, 12:21:12 AM
1080ti's right now can make so much mining. That doesnt sound right at all.


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: blockchange88 on July 28, 2018, 12:26:38 AM
1080ti's right now can make so much mining. That doesnt sound right at all.

Tell me about it. I've had my Craigslist ad up for a month. People text me, but never buy. I don't get it, I know I'm priced cheaper than eBay, and they can buy it in person. It's a win/win. This is what happens when we rely on tween gamers to buy out our equity. They look in between cushions for quarters.


They wanna trade. Idiots.


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: xxcsu on July 28, 2018, 01:38:57 AM
Even at 500, I can't throw away my 1080tis. So much for equity...

"Nobody is buying 1080tis."

I do ;)

Just got 2x EVGA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Sc Black Edition for 900$ ,best offer accepted :) shipping included :) from ebay
Thats 450$/card :) Should be here next week :)
It would be perfectly fit with my 2x nVidia Titan V :)
http://beszeljukmeg.com/ETH02/titanV.PNG
http://beszeljukmeg.com/ETH02/1200-740.jpg


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: Eyedol-X on July 28, 2018, 01:45:38 AM
the 1180 is coming and there is going to be a price drop on the 1080ti's in the next 60-90 days

This is why no one is buying them ;)


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: Marvell2 on July 28, 2018, 01:56:38 AM
the 1180 is coming and there is going to be a price drop on the 1080ti's in the next 60-90 days

This is why no one is buying them ;)

yeah lol even if the 1180 ti is $700 its a better deal, 1080tis are 3 years old tech


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: adaseb on July 28, 2018, 07:28:06 AM
Selling an 1080Ti is probably as annoying as selling a sports car on Craigslist.

You get tons of emails and a few test drives from little kids who can't afford the car in the first place.

Basically everybody wants the GPU because it's a high end card but nobody wants to pay what it's worth.

You just gotta keep trying and eventually it will get sold.


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: blockchange88 on July 28, 2018, 02:34:38 PM
Selling an 1080Ti is probably as annoying as selling a sports car on Craigslist.

You get tons of emails and a few test drives from little kids who can't afford the car in the first place.

Basically everybody wants the GPU because it's a high end card but nobody wants to pay what it's worth.

You just gotta keep trying and eventually it will get sold.

thanks for the reasonable response. i bit the bullet, and decided to list them on ebay. sold 3 already, but they eat such a large fee  :-\ better than nothing i suppose. good thing these are ROI cards. been mining ETC, but at this point, im better off just dumping the cards and throwing that cash into ETC.


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: philipma1957 on July 28, 2018, 03:12:47 PM
Selling an 1080Ti is probably as annoying as selling a sports car on Craigslist.

You get tons of emails and a few test drives from little kids who can't afford the car in the first place.

Basically everybody wants the GPU because it's a high end card but nobody wants to pay what it's worth.

You just gotta keep trying and eventually it will get sold.

thanks for the reasonable response. i bit the bullet, and decided to list them on ebay. sold 3 already, but they eat such a large fee  :-\ better than nothing i suppose. good thing these are ROI cards. been mining ETC, but at this point, im better off just dumping the cards and throwing that cash into ETC.

you know with the eth pill  they earn a profit .  I am mining mine .


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: masphie on July 28, 2018, 03:20:26 PM
1080ti's right now can make so much mining. That doesnt sound right at all.

Yes you right, but how about electricity consumption.... ?
in case, i have 6x 1050 ti OC .....


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: ltcsprite on July 28, 2018, 03:35:01 PM
Always get a basic Ebay store if you're selling large $ items.

For instance, a $500 item sold on Ebay without a basic store, the Ebay fee is $50.

If you have a basic Ebay store, the Ebay selling fee is only $30.

Pays for itself very quickly.


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: jmigdlc99 on July 28, 2018, 04:56:49 PM
Even at 500, I can't throw away my 1080tis. So much for equity...

Been seeing some people selling it locally for $450 equivalent value. The thing is, they are also selling it on a mass scale giving the impression the the GPU market is really being flooded now. I wouldn't be surprised if this also drags down the value of all other GPUs.

Maybe the end of GPUs is really coming. Hopefully i'm wrong.


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: whitesites on July 28, 2018, 05:00:41 PM
I just bought some off ebay for about $560 after shipping.
Craigslist has a reputation of shady deals, plus there is a certain amount of security risk selling in person.
I am still making $2/day off my Tis.

Everyone is ditching their Tis thinking the 1180 is going to be a beast, and I highly doubt that.  Remember the 1180 Ti won't be out for a while, first will be the 1180, 1170, 1160,  then sometime next year they will release their Ti.  Also the 1180 will be priced much higher than the 1080.  The real question is will the % increase in price between the 1080ti and 1180 be less than the % increase in hashing power.  If not, then you are better off sticking to your 1080s.  Something else to consider is with the mining craze, I am willing to bet that Nvidia takes their warranty for the 1180 down to 1 year or less and makes it non transferrable.  Where the 1080 ti has a 3 year transferrable warranty.  I know 15% of my cards I have had to send back for RMA, and that has to cut into Nividia's bottom line.  



Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: philipma1957 on July 29, 2018, 01:44:41 AM
I just bought some off ebay for about $560 after shipping.
Craigslist has a reputation of shady deals, plus there is a certain amount of security risk selling in person.
I am still making $2/day off my Tis.

Everyone is ditching their Tis thinking the 1180 is going to be a beast, and I highly doubt that.  Remember the 1180 Ti won't be out for a while, first will be the 1180, 1170, 1160,  then sometime next year they will release their Ti.  Also the 1180 will be priced much higher than the 1080.  The real question is will the % increase in price between the 1080ti and 1180 be less than the % increase in hashing power.  If not, then you are better off sticking to your 1080s.  Something else to consider is with the mining craze, I am willing to bet that Nvidia takes their warranty for the 1180 down to 1 year or less and makes it non transferrable.  Where the 1080 ti has a 3 year transferrable warranty.  I know 15% of my cards I have had to send back for RMA, and that has to cut into Nividia's bottom line.  



If they cut warranty to 1 year the 1080tis will have two years left on warranty.
Would make buying the 1180ti a much harder decision


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: VoskCoin on July 29, 2018, 01:52:43 AM
I just bought some off ebay for about $560 after shipping.
Craigslist has a reputation of shady deals, plus there is a certain amount of security risk selling in person.
I am still making $2/day off my Tis.

Everyone is ditching their Tis thinking the 1180 is going to be a beast, and I highly doubt that.  Remember the 1180 Ti won't be out for a while, first will be the 1180, 1170, 1160,  then sometime next year they will release their Ti.  Also the 1180 will be priced much higher than the 1080.  The real question is will the % increase in price between the 1080ti and 1180 be less than the % increase in hashing power.  If not, then you are better off sticking to your 1080s.  Something else to consider is with the mining craze, I am willing to bet that Nvidia takes their warranty for the 1180 down to 1 year or less and makes it non transferrable.  Where the 1080 ti has a 3 year transferrable warranty.  I know 15% of my cards I have had to send back for RMA, and that has to cut into Nividia's bottom line.  



If they cut warranty to 1 year the 1080tis will have two years left on warranty.
Would make buying the 1180ti a much harder decision

I can't imagine they will take the warranty down to 1 year, if that is the case then ASIC mining has nearly the same warranty! Why are people speculating a 1 year warranty + no transfer on it?

I actually just made a video about gpu warranties & their take on mining & which ones transfer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul7aI389cb0
https://i.imgur.com/fqsiernm.jpg


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: ironkid on July 29, 2018, 04:48:50 AM
If Nvidia do reduce the warranties like that they will probably lose whats left of their tiny footstep in the crypto space. As it no longer makes sense to buy any gpus for mining anymore. 

I cant imagine sending alot of $ to bitmain and hoping I get my asic shipped before its no longer really profitable or trying to get a repair service.


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: leowonderful on July 29, 2018, 06:22:30 AM
I wouldn't say nobody's buying them atm. I've been looking at the Nvidia store recently, and the 1080Tis sold out there about a week ago and they were going for the price of $700 US! It is true that they haven't been restocked in a while, but there is still at least some demand for these cards.

Also, I hope you're taking pictures of each card you're selling on eBay, as well as the serials and all- I've been burned too many times selling electronics there and I've vowed never to come back to eBay again as a result. Even if you haven't been hit with a dispute yet I guarantee you will eventually, and picture proof and all helps out a LOT in the process.


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: yrk1957 on July 29, 2018, 07:25:45 AM
11xx series will mostly be disabled for mining at the driver/bios level. Like you cant SLI more than 2 cards in 10xx series, similarly the cards in 11xx wont work for compute loads if more than 2 are installed in the system.

That’s the best solution NVidia will have to isolate itself from last times crypto disaster.


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: jmigdlc99 on July 29, 2018, 07:33:36 AM
11xx series will mostly be disabled for mining at the driver/bios level. Like you cant SLI more than 2 cards in 10xx series, similarly the cards in 11xx wont work for compute loads if more than 2 are installed in the system.

That’s the best solution NVidia will have to isolate itself from last times crypto disaster.

Why would NVIDIA limit GPUs from mining/compute loads when they made a big profit of miners just recently? A potential move from them would be to cater to both gamers and miners by having seperate GPUs for graphics and for compute loads.

Banning a certain type of consumer makes no sense. Given that while miners RMA more, i'm pretty sure they also buy more GPUs which balance everything out.


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: yrk1957 on July 29, 2018, 07:41:51 AM
11xx series will mostly be disabled for mining at the driver/bios level. Like you cant SLI more than 2 cards in 10xx series, similarly the cards in 11xx wont work for compute loads if more than 2 are installed in the system.

That’s the best solution NVidia will have to isolate itself from last times crypto disaster.

Why would NVIDIA limit GPUs from mining/compute loads when they made a big profit of miners just recently? A potential move from them would be to cater to both gamers and miners by having seperate GPUs for graphics and for compute loads.

Banning a certain type of consumer makes no sense. Given that while miners RMA more, i'm pretty sure they also buy more GPUs which balance everything out.

GPUs are on their last legs, by December FPGAs will have swamped them. And parallel to that ASICs will take whatever is left, look at Equihash, many coins don’t seem to care about ASICs. And soon ETH will be similar story. NVidia will not need mining customers as there won’t be many.

Compute loads (apart from mining) can be served by a separate line of appropriately higher priced series of cards with no graphic functions.


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: honestinvestor on July 29, 2018, 09:27:38 AM

card is bought actively, simply
 not from your circle, you 1050 maynesh or what?))))


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: Signaturan on July 29, 2018, 12:16:48 PM
11xx series will mostly be disabled for mining at the driver/bios level. Like you cant SLI more than 2 cards in 10xx series, similarly the cards in 11xx wont work for compute loads if more than 2 are installed in the system.

That’s the best solution NVidia will have to isolate itself from last times crypto disaster.

Why would NVIDIA limit GPUs from mining/compute loads when they made a big profit of miners just recently? A potential move from them would be to cater to both gamers and miners by having seperate GPUs for graphics and for compute loads.

Banning a certain type of consumer makes no sense. Given that while miners RMA more, i'm pretty sure they also buy more GPUs which balance everything out.

I think the nVidia will make mining specific GPU like it did before.


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: KaydenC on July 29, 2018, 01:10:15 PM
11xx series will mostly be disabled for mining at the driver/bios level. Like you cant SLI more than 2 cards in 10xx series, similarly the cards in 11xx wont work for compute loads if more than 2 are installed in the system.

That’s the best solution NVidia will have to isolate itself from last times crypto disaster.

Why would NVIDIA limit GPUs from mining/compute loads when they made a big profit of miners just recently? A potential move from them would be to cater to both gamers and miners by having seperate GPUs for graphics and for compute loads.

Banning a certain type of consumer makes no sense. Given that while miners RMA more, i'm pretty sure they also buy more GPUs which balance everything out.

I think the nVidia will make mining specific GPU like it did before.


I think they will, but with something more mining specific. Probably a small chip or super cutdown chip with huge memory bandwidth.


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: Iamtutut on July 29, 2018, 03:53:06 PM
I can't imagine they will take the warranty down to 1 year, if that is the case then ASIC mining has nearly the same warranty! Why are people speculating a 1 year warranty + no transfer on it?

I actually just made a video about gpu warranties & their take on mining & which ones transfer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul7aI389cb0
https://i.imgur.com/fqsiernm.jpg

In some places, eg EU, they don"t have a choice. 2 years by law.


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: NiklasFalk on July 29, 2018, 04:03:43 PM
In some places, eg EU, they don"t have a choice. 2 years by law.
For initial purchaser, yes.
But there is no such law handling a second hand private purchase.
So resale and warranties are up to the manufacturers goodwill.


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: whitebrow on July 29, 2018, 04:18:53 PM
imagine all the warranty claims from mining alone. you think they're happy about that. i'm betting a year no doubt.


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: Metroid on July 29, 2018, 04:44:31 PM
Where I live they used to give 1 year warranty, now is only a month hehe, to be safe in order to get roi, you need at least 3 years warranty, even if you have 3 years warranty is risky right now, gpu mining is almost dead right now and it might be when eth goes pos, manufactures trying to change the warranty policy is already bad, and to make it worse, roi time is around 700 days right now, that is 2 freaking years if you are lucky. The good thing is as gpu mining is almost dead, people will stop buying gpus for mining and manufactures will give a longer warranty again but dont expect 3 years anymore.


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: badger88 on July 29, 2018, 05:12:05 PM
yeah no one wants to buy the cards that were UNAVAILABLE for 3 years because of people hoarding the cards. ..
we are used to our shitty gaming GPUs that were available 3 years ago.. we can wait longer for the next GPU that they will actually develop now since there is no more demand for GPU mining...

& gpu hoarders can build door stoppers


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: vuli1 on July 29, 2018, 05:44:05 PM
heh, what do you think, you will get 80% of the price after 2 years? Nope.


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: whitesites on July 29, 2018, 06:55:03 PM
Miners buy a lot of cards, but we also push our cards 24/7.  Meaning any weak cards in our Rigs typically die within a few months.  Where if they were just used for gaming.  Some gamer who plays maybe 20 hours a week, will never push the cards to that level, and when they finally die, they will be past their warranty.  I seriously see them dropping the Warranty to 1 year.  IF I remember correctly, their dedicated Mining Cards only have a 3 month warranty.


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: adaseb on July 30, 2018, 05:09:06 AM
Miners buy a lot of cards, but we also push our cards 24/7.  Meaning any weak cards in our Rigs typically die within a few months.  Where if they were just used for gaming.  Some gamer who plays maybe 20 hours a week, will never push the cards to that level, and when they finally die, they will be past their warranty.  I seriously see them dropping the Warranty to 1 year.  IF I remember correctly, their dedicated Mining Cards only have a 3 month warranty.

This is untrue.

Many people have been mining for years with the same GPUs at 24/7 and they are still running. The GPUs usually are rock-solid, its the fans that start to die first because the bearings go out.

Gamers might not play for 24/7 but you need to keep in mind that they usually keep their GPU in a small enclosed computer case with poor cooling and they usually overvolt and overclock their GPUs. Miners do the complete opposite, they got open rig rigs, and they usually undervolt and underclock their rigs. They are put thru less abuse than hardcore gamers.


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: Cristopherus on July 30, 2018, 07:03:54 AM
Even at 500, I can't throw away my 1080tis. So much for equity...

"Nobody is buying 1080tis."

I do ;)

Just got 2x EVGA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Sc Black Edition for 900$ ,best offer accepted :) shipping included :) from ebay
Thats 450$/card :) Should be here next week :)
It would be perfectly fit with my 2x nVidia Titan V :)
http://beszeljukmeg.com/ETH02/titanV.PNG
http://beszeljukmeg.com/ETH02/1200-740.jpg


That's a thing of beauty right there


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: shibob on July 30, 2018, 07:16:33 AM
Even me, I'm waiting, 1180 is going to be released. 1080Ti's price may drop a bit.


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: Metroid on July 30, 2018, 07:32:15 AM
Miners buy a lot of cards, but we also push our cards 24/7.  Meaning any weak cards in our Rigs typically die within a few months.  Where if they were just used for gaming.  Some gamer who plays maybe 20 hours a week, will never push the cards to that level, and when they finally die, they will be past their warranty.  I seriously see them dropping the Warranty to 1 year.  IF I remember correctly, their dedicated Mining Cards only have a 3 month warranty.

This is untrue.

Many people have been mining for years with the same GPUs at 24/7 and they are still running. The GPUs usually are rock-solid, its the fans that start to die first because the bearings go out.

Gamers might not play for 24/7 but you need to keep in mind that they usually keep their GPU in a small enclosed computer case with poor cooling and they usually overvolt and overclock their GPUs. Miners do the complete opposite, they got open rig rigs, and they usually undervolt and underclock their rigs. They are put thru less abuse than hardcore gamers.

So true.


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: Etherion on July 30, 2018, 09:12:05 AM
With All the dedicated mining equipment coming online now there is no hope for gpus.  Neoscrypt, Lyra2rev2 are the latest to fall and X16r not to long after


Title: Re: Nobody is buying 1080tis.
Post by: Signaturan on August 01, 2018, 08:04:05 AM
Miners buy a lot of cards, but we also push our cards 24/7.  Meaning any weak cards in our Rigs typically die within a few months.  Where if they were just used for gaming.  Some gamer who plays maybe 20 hours a week, will never push the cards to that level, and when they finally die, they will be past their warranty.  I seriously see them dropping the Warranty to 1 year.  IF I remember correctly, their dedicated Mining Cards only have a 3 month warranty.

I run the cards at 50% of the TDP, they are working well after 5 years.