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Is it possible to change the source code, fork the chain, create a new board of members for a new foundation and kick the old foundation to the curb?

From my understanding of bitcoin, this is possible. We would need help from all the major mining pools, but this is possible right?

I asked a question in the other thread to but here it is:

What would prevent the new foundation from doing the same as the current foundation?

nothing, but we can keep trying until one foundation actually looks out for our (bitcoin users) best interest.

Does it matter? There's nothing to stop anyone from creating their own Foundation. Just let them do their thing as there's nothing we can do to stop them really.

They're not a democratically elected body, nor do they speak for the whole of Bitcoin any way.

We could stop supporting them as a community and they will soon realise they can't keep stating they are representing the Bitcoin community.

They claim to be the spokesman for the Bitcoin community which could tarnish our reputation in the future which is not something which I want to happen we need to stop donating to this fundation.

all of that is totally unnecessary, btc is far too young and the whole cryptocurrency industry is far too young to feel so aligned with any coin to think the industry can't do without it.

if you don't like the bitcoin foundation, start a new bitcoin foundation one -- the BBB (bigger, better, and brighter) Bitcoin foundation,
if you don't like bitcoin make a new coin; oh, yeah there over 300 other coins, most of which have improved on the original btc model
if you don't like an exchange start a new one,  there is PLENTY of room for more service providers in the CC universe

If you have integrity, safety, transparency, and good customer service you stand to make billions in the space

personally I'm working on several projects with that in mind

Do they? What's to stop anyone claiming the same thing?

How do we stop supporting them? Who says we support them in the first place?

This we can do, if all the big players started to denounce the foundation then they would lose all credibility.

Take a look at the donations they have recieved for doing nothing every single big company involved with Bitcoin has donated to get their name on their fancy website if that isn't supporting them I don't know what is.

Some members have "Bitcoin foundation member" in their signature because they seem to think that makes them special and higher up than anyone else.

I think we have reached this stage already most of the Bitcoin community are now showing signs of disliking the Bitcoin foundation and have stopped supoprting them just look at the petition to remove Mark as a Bitcoin foundation member there were a lot of angry people in that thread and how the Bitcoin foundation simply dismissed the petition.

Link to the thread please

We can't stop people and especially businesses donating to them. It obviously means something to some people.

they are the leaders of the industry,
they are the one's that set the example,
they are the one who set the tone,
they are bitcoin in corporate flesh

if you want to start a new board it can start today, but unless you are willing to give time and money to take heat from the world your best bet is to work with what you got.


Remember, the foundation isn't paying you, you are playing for the opportunity to serve the foundation and get disrespected on an international lever from everyone with a bitcoin as soon as the value drops, or a board member reveals that he's human.

It's a large thread with a lot of replies some are contributing to the petition some are defending: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=465096.0

The overview of the foundation you have given is bad they are not the leaders of the industry actually what industry are you even talking about?

They set the example? Like setting the example that mt gox is the best exchange out there?

They set the tone to what exactly I fail to understand your reason that you haven't provided.

They're also aware of it on the foundation's board. https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/740-petition-to-remove-mark-karpeles-from-the-bitcoin-foundation-board/

Mark should resign if the foundation can't remove him themselves he should see that he is not wanted by the Bitcoin community.

... if all the big players started to denounce the foundation then they would lose all credibility.
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wow, it's not like they are the enemy, just start a new foundation

 

wow, it's not like they are the enemy, just start a new foundation

 

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Could start a petition to remove the Bitcoin foundation all together I doubt many people want this though as there is good potential there.

Why would they listen to a petition?

Could start a petition to remove the Bitcoin foundation all together I doubt many people want this though as there is good potential there.
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there's no need for a petition, just start a new foundation, that's it

there's no need to demolish the current foundation, just simply start a new one,

there's no need to complain about the current foundation, just start a new foundation,

I can say it a million different ways but it will all boil down to -- start a new one.

Corrupt Foundation which doesn't represent anything Bitcoin related except for promoting services which steal your money.

I've served on boards and elected office, everyone in those situations listen to petitions, but don't forget they may also have other interests to consider.   

Let me ask you this, has any of you called any of the board members?

I asked you to tell me what OTHER entity comes close to the description that I provided for the foundation.

the simple fact is there is no other entity that comes close to representing bitcoin. 

The foundation doesn't run Mt. Gox any more than they ran Silk Road or run anyone's company, they are an independent body there to do as I indicated and whatever it is that is there mission.   But if you or anyone else don't like them I am willing to help in the effort to start a new foundation. 

I see no good in using good energy for negative purpose when that energy could be used to build positive purpose.

Petitions are a bit of paper that can easily be ignored. Oh look there's a petition calling for us to quit? Shall we ignore it? Yes, ok.

 ;D

A lot of utter ignorance about what the foundation does and who it's members are. Of course anyone can start their own organization, or join the foundation. You can lead, follow, or get out of the way.   But a petition from outside of the organization should be ignored, in my opinion.

But you are a member of the Bitcoin foundation so you would say that wouldn't you?

Please note that, despite the name, the "bitcoin foundation" is unrelated to bitcoin because bitcoin is decentralized and has no leader, no foundation, it is just a protocol. The foundation in no way can force what they want to bitcoin because users can simply happily ignore them.
No need to "remove" them, "remove" from where? Bitcoin is not their property  ;)

Because it is part of our secret plan? The work the bitcoin foundation does benefits you. They organize conferences, meet with lawyers in Washington to persuade lawmakers about the virtues of bitcoin. They provides a place for the press to find facts instead of making them up.
That is not to say that you should not do it also. I think you should. But it is going to get expensive flying to NYC and DC all the time. Doesn't it make more sense to form an organization that pools our funds and provides a place to debate things?   Something like say... a bitcoin foundation.

Amen.

That's a good point no need to remove them and another foundation wouldn't solve any of the problems we currently have.

Have we got any proof of you doing this? nothing is transparent and that is what is wrong with it.  also you guys focus on the NYC and DC area only? that's hardly anything to help Bitcoin you are only helping Bitcoin in the US you should be looking for international members instead of focusing on one place.

Very little of the foundation website is not publicly viewable. You can see what is going on for yourself.
https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/

The reason so much is happening in NYC and DC is not because of the foundation, that is just where the financial and political decisions are being made in the U.S. 
Now your criticism of the foundation being America-centric is an issue within the foundation as well. That is why there is a push to create additional foundations in Europe, Asia, Africa, India, and the Middle East.  Each of these regions has it's own special challenges and it's makes sense to have other organizations with different efforts.
We are all on the same team.