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Title: Icon for banned user
Post by: kirreev070 on July 29, 2018, 05:38:10 PM
Why administrators will not enter an icon for banned users? Many of them using account for airdrop and for other purposes. If icon will be they would not have had the opportunity use banned account.

I'm already in my previous post doing example:

https://image.ibb.co/bQGL18/Untitled.png (https://imgbb.com/) temporary ban
https://image.ibb.co/cZxhET/image.png (https://imgbb.com/) permanent ban

https://image.ibb.co/ig3doo/image.png (https://imgbb.com/) https://image.ibb.co/fhxFZT/image.png (https://imgbb.com/)

Maybe you should do something like this


Title: Re: Icon for banned user
Post by: Jet Cash on July 29, 2018, 05:44:40 PM
There used to be 5 red crosses for scammers, but I haven't seen any of those lately.


Title: Re: Icon for banned user
Post by: digaran on July 29, 2018, 06:10:38 PM
As other people have already suggested, having their ranks changed in to banned would be great, we have the right to know who is banned and who is not banned. @admin, please show us the banned members by changing their rank: Banned. that's all we are asking.


Title: Re: Icon for banned user
Post by: seoincorporation on July 30, 2018, 02:49:57 AM
As other people have already suggested, having their ranks changed in to banned would be great, we have the right to know who is banned and who is not banned. @admin, please show us the banned members by changing their rank: Banned. that's all we are asking.

Yes, it should be really useful. Sometimes I find some copy-pasters spammers and I report and report them ītill I get exhausted. To take a look at the modlog page is kind of messy. So, yes, in fact, it should be interesting to be able to know who is already banned and who is not, so we can decide if we continue reporting them or if it is time to stop...


Title: Re: Icon for banned user
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on July 30, 2018, 03:05:54 AM
There used to be 5 red crosses for scammers, but I haven't seen any of those lately.
I remember that, as I was lurking here at the time.  By the time I created an account, all that scammer tag stuff was gone.  I think it'd be very useful to have a "banned" tag but I think this was discussed a while back and nothing came of it.

It would be interesting to go back and look at some older threads in sections like Bitcoin Discussion to see how many members have gotten banned.  Bet there would be a lot.

Edit:  OP, I think those symbols you came up with are silly, however.  They don't tell anyone what's going on--you have to know what the symbols mean, and there should be a big "BANNED" label right under the avatar.  The same thing drives me nuts on smartphones, where there are icons that could mean anything, and you just have to know what they stand for.  It might look pretty, but I think it's a stupid concept.


Title: Re: Icon for banned user
Post by: seoincorporation on July 30, 2018, 03:07:44 AM
There used to be 5 red crosses for scammers, but I haven't seen any of those lately.
I remember that, as I was lurking here at the time.  By the time I created an account, all that scammer tag stuff was gone.  I think it'd be very useful to have a "banned" tag but I think this was discussed a while back and nothing came of it.

It would be interesting to go back and look at some older threads in sections like Bitcoin Discussion to see how many members have gotten banned.  Bet there would be a lot.

Absolutely, but it can be really useful to be able to see if our reports are being considered, though. I was thinking about if there is some way to know the banned stats in order to get a clear reference of how many users are banned per month, year, or even per day.
I`m curious.


Title: Re: Icon for banned user
Post by: tranthidung on July 30, 2018, 04:44:17 AM
There used to be 5 red crosses for scammers, but I haven't seen any of those lately.
Interesting to know this one.
I joined the forum months ago in 2017, so I did not witness the feature.
Moreover, specific signals for locked accounts should be considered and implemented too.
I think specific icon for locked account might have much help.


In a nutshell, different signals for scammers, banned, and locked accounts should be discussed more.


Title: Re: Icon for banned user
Post by: HeRetiK on July 30, 2018, 09:08:26 AM
I would also like to see a special tag for banned or temporarily banned users, if only to make it easier to avoid redundantly reporting spam posts.

As pointed out by The Pharmacist it probably makes sense to just use something amongst the lines of a straightforward "BANNED" label though. Alternatively I think a prohibited sign (http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f6c7/index.htm) could make sense as an icon, but that might be just me.


Title: Re: Icon for banned user
Post by: LoyceV on July 30, 2018, 09:37:01 AM
I would also like to see a special tag for banned or temporarily banned users
I vote to keep temporary bans private.

This would be my favourite (I've mentioned it before, this time with edited screenshot):
http://i63.tinypic.com/5k0pbt.png

Adding "Banned" as a Rank makes it easy for scrapers too.


Title: Re: Icon for banned user
Post by: Silent26 on July 30, 2018, 09:55:38 AM
I vote to keep temporary bans private.

This would be my favourite (I've mentioned it before, this time with edited screenshot):
http://i63.tinypic.com/5k0pbt.png

Adding "Banned" as a Rank makes it easy for scrapers too.
Well I like this one more than what OP's suggested badges  :D

I think we really need to show banned users to other members, temporary or not. But of course, the ban sign should define whether the account is temporary banned or permanently banned. It is much better this way than seeing a lot of users complaining about their banned account and asking if they're Temp-Banned or Per-Banned. I know there's already a sign that signifies if a account were banned but the user is the only one who can be able to see it (but I think admin can also see it) and as we can see, these users still can't found out the status of their account.

Besides that, showing if a account is banned will save a lot of time to reporters. I know that it is still necessary to report a spam posts although the user is already banned but it will really save time if we just ignore banned accounts and focus more on existing spammers :)


Title: Re: Icon for banned user
Post by: polikarp on July 30, 2018, 09:59:56 AM
I am in support of this idea. It will help avoid confusion in many cases like while contacting such a member.


Title: Re: Icon for banned user
Post by: hilariousetc on July 30, 2018, 10:05:44 AM
I support this. It's a waste of time for both staff and users when we have to handle reports on members that are in fact already banned.

There used to be 5 red crosses for scammers, but I haven't seen any of those lately.

I forgot about this. This is exactly what I think should be shown for banned users, or just 'BANNED' is shown under their username or rank. We don't have to show temporary bans, but I think perma bans certainly should be.


Title: Re: Icon for banned user
Post by: kirreev070 on July 30, 2018, 10:09:56 AM
I would also like to see a special tag for banned or temporarily banned users
I vote to keep temporary bans private.

This would be my favourite (I've mentioned it before, this time with edited screenshot):
http://i63.tinypic.com/5k0pbt.png

Adding "Banned" as a Rank makes it easy for scrapers too.
Yes, I think about it too. A simple solution to make a status.  This will be a very useful function. Forum will get rid of using banned accounts and everyone will see banned accounts.

Or such a status option Jr. Member


Title: Re: Icon for banned user
Post by: ataArt on July 30, 2018, 09:52:33 PM
Yes, I think about it too. A simple solution to make a status.  This will be a very useful function. Forum will get rid of using banned accounts and everyone will see banned accounts.

Or such a status option Jr. Member
Also good version for designation


Title: Re: Icon for banned user
Post by: r1s2g3 on July 30, 2018, 10:24:47 PM
Sometimes I find some copy-pasters spammers and I report and report them ītill I get exhausted. To take a look at the modlog page is kind of messy.

Any Idea, How many days data modlog.php contain? I am trying to find a reported user there but I did not find it in modlog.
User is also inactive for last 2 days.


Title: Re: Icon for banned user
Post by: LoyceMobile on July 30, 2018, 10:31:08 PM
I am trying to find a reported user there but I did not find it in modlog.
User is also inactive for last 2 days.
Try bpip.org


Title: Re: Icon for banned user
Post by: crypmike on August 03, 2018, 11:33:51 PM
I vote to keep temporary bans private.

This would be my favourite (I've mentioned it before, this time with edited screenshot):
http://i63.tinypic.com/5k0pbt.png

Adding "Banned" as a Rank makes it easy for scrapers too.
Well I like this one more than what OP's suggested badges  :D

I think we really need to show banned users to other members, temporary or not. But of course, the ban sign should define whether the account is temporary banned or permanently banned. It is much better this way than seeing a lot of users complaining about their banned account and asking if they're Temp-Banned or Per-Banned. I know there's already a sign that signifies if a account were banned but the user is the only one who can be able to see it (but I think admin can also see it) and as we can see, these users still can't found out the status of their account.

Besides that, showing if a account is banned will save a lot of time to reporters. I know that it is still necessary to report a spam posts although the user is already banned but it will really save time if we just ignore banned accounts and focus more on existing spammers :)


I like your idea but here are some improvements:
Maybe it would be nice to remove color from user's name and make it inactive
And also remove his rank because of it doesn't have any sense anymore

https://i.imgur.com/PomZTH3.png


And as an experiment, I added a ghost icon instead of the rank medals

https://i.imgur.com/kdNtmpP.png


Title: Re: Icon for banned user
Post by: chiyenbtre on August 05, 2018, 04:36:26 AM
I vote to keep temporary bans private.

This would be my favourite (I've mentioned it before, this time with edited screenshot):
http://i63.tinypic.com/5k0pbt.png

Adding "Banned" as a Rank makes it easy for scrapers too.
Nice initiative, @LoyceV.
Nevertheless, I think this potential icon should only apply for temporary banned accounts.
For permanently banned accounts, I suggest to nuke or delete them forever (of course, only do this months after the locking day without support tickets, complaints from locked-accounts' owners).

I believe that @Theymos and other forum staffs can create a bot to do this.


Title: Re: Icon for banned user
Post by: The Cryptovator on August 05, 2018, 05:50:54 AM
Idea is good. But I think admin don't want to expose them. As you suggest for temporary ban use a icon, it can be implement. Admin can consider it. For parmanent ban that means he can't use any more his/her account. It can't be delete because there is chance for appeal. On the other hand if delete parmanetly from server, banned people can create an account using previous email. That's prohibited by forum rule. You are not allow to create other account if you ban ( unless you need appeal).


Title: Re: Icon for banned user
Post by: LoyceV on August 05, 2018, 07:46:14 AM
Nevertheless, I think this potential icon should only apply for temporary banned accounts.
Why would you want to know who got a temporary ban? As far as I'm concerned, that's something private between the user and the Mods.

Quote
For permanently banned accounts, I suggest to nuke or delete them forever
Not all banned accounts are spammers, some have made useful posts in the past. Deleting those posts disrupts existing discussions, and doesn't do the forum any good.
If all posts are spam, a Mod sometimes goes through the post history and deletes hundreds of posts (example (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=736757)).


Title: Re: Icon for banned user
Post by: chiyenbtre on August 05, 2018, 09:37:10 AM
Why would you want to know who got a temporary ban? As far as I'm concerned, that's something private between the user and the Mods.
By this, I can know potential shitty posters, unreliable guys, etc. Of course, forum users should be responsible on their judgemements on reliability, quality of others (they should spend their own time to find out), but if the forum can have a badge, which plays a role as early signal for newcomers, who don't have enough skills to do this, it might be great.

Recently, @Theymos has raised a badge 'contest' to find the most relevant for reporters.
Hence, I think it might be relevant to have a specific signal for temporary banned account, too.


Title: Re: Icon for banned user
Post by: hilariousetc on August 05, 2018, 05:02:06 PM
Why would you want to know who got a temporary ban? As far as I'm concerned, that's something private between the user and the Mods.
By this, I can know potential shitty posters, unreliable guys, etc. Of course, forum users should be responsible on their judgemements on reliability, quality of others (they should spend their own time to find out), but if the forum can have a badge, which plays a role as early signal for newcomers, who don't have enough skills to do this, it might be great.

Recently, @Theymos has raised a badge 'contest' to find the most relevant for reporters.
Hence, I think it might be relevant to have a specific signal for temporary banned account, too.

But people can be banned for all sorts of reasons and some won't deserve to be tarnished by that forever and it could follow them around and effect people's opinion of them. I don't think theymos would implement that either out of fairness, just like trust isn't shown in irrelevant sections. Permabans are a different matter though and would be helpful for numerous reasons and most importantly would save staff and users time handling reports on users that are already banned.  


Title: Re: Icon for banned user
Post by: bitart on August 05, 2018, 07:05:13 PM
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Yes, I think about it too. A simple solution to make a status.  This will be a very useful function. Forum will get rid of using banned accounts and everyone will see banned accounts.

Or such a status option Jr. Member
I would go for this one as well...
It clearly shows that the user is permabanned and you can check what was his/her rank before he/she got banned.
Maybe you can make it red to be a bit more eye-catching, but this striked text is also good enough for me


Title: Re: Icon for banned user
Post by: Vod on August 05, 2018, 07:40:53 PM
This idea has been hashed to death.

Making a "Banned" group would increase the work for the administration team.

We used to have it and moved away when we had members in five digits - now we have seven digits.  :/


Title: Re: Icon for banned user
Post by: hilariousandco on August 06, 2018, 10:45:15 AM
This idea has been hashed to death.

Making a "Banned" group would increase the work for the administration team.

We used to have it and moved away when we had members in five digits - now we have seven digits.  :/

How so? It would be automatic and come along with the permabanning.


Title: Re: Icon for banned user
Post by: bitart on August 06, 2018, 03:45:05 PM
This idea has been hashed to death.

Making a "Banned" group would increase the work for the administration team.

We used to have it and moved away when we had members in five digits - now we have seven digits.  :/

How so? It would be automatic and come along with the permabanning.
I don't know how much coding is required for this feautre, but it would worth the effort, that's for sure...
If I know well, people report copypasters, but you cannot decide if a post has already been reported or not. It could save some time and some report for the members who report these kind of stuff.


Title: Re: Icon for banned user
Post by: mazdafunsun on August 06, 2018, 08:15:44 PM
I agree that new rank - " banned" would be a lot more usefull than just a icon . This would allow to scrape these ranks and make statisctics.

I believe that I already red somewhere response from admin to this and it was that tagging accounts after banning would mean more work for them. Possibly it can be implemented automatically then it could be realistic.


Title: Re: Icon for banned user
Post by: Thirdspace on August 07, 2018, 12:16:38 AM
Why administrators will not enter an icon for banned users? Many of them using account for airdrop and for other purposes. If icon will be they would not have had the opportunity use banned account.
slick greedy bounty hunters! >:(
so to avoid being reported by an active account, they used banned account to register airdrop

Adding "Banned" as a Rank makes it easy for scrapers too.
Making a "Banned" group would increase the work for the administration team.
how about a simple crossed rank or username? or red/grey colored username?
that wouldn't be so hard to code, just add a few lines to check banned status and put strike/color tag