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Hello, I have just found this interesting information.
When you look at this bounty spreadsheet (GCOX campaign): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12TJzpkePkRwyRBEIIvjr-mJnZbskkW_wfD2mZNBMm0Q/edit#gid=1544862346 - you will see that almost everyone is from Philippines.
It is not strange? It is not an example of multiaccounting?
The registration form looks like this: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScchFQPaafMx3fVTMYiNs2KuFTrx03Gtuy1RbilqfTFHcPPjA/viewform

Thank you for your explanation ;).

Obviously not all of them are but most bounty hunters these days seem to be from the Philippines and news of this forum is probably spreading like wildfire through the streets, school playgrounds and offices there. They're the ones who who come here for their 'daily needs' and are quitting their jobs to do bounties full time (if they have one at all in the first place). I wouldn't mind if they just collected bounties but it's when they start copy and pasting and spamming everywhere when they quite clearly can't speak English very well if at all and when they're getting paid to post its recipe for disaster, especially when most of them have little to knowledge or interest in bitcoin other than they just found out you can earn good money here.

Hello! I'm from the Philippines and I'm quite surprised of how many Filipinos are participants of that campaign, because to be honest, not a lot of people know about bitcoin in here. I live in Manila - which is supposed to be the most "advanced" city in my country - but even so, the number of people who know about cryptocurrency or that it even exists in this city is very low, even among teenagers and young adults. However, I guess it's not fair to assume that that's a result of multiaccounting. Just my two cents  ;)

It's probably still a fairly underground thing, but like I said news is probably quickly spreading about this forum there. Next time you see one of the spam threads that pop up titled things like how did you hear about bitcoin? or why did you join bitcoin? they're usually full of Filipinos saying things like my schoolmate/teacher/cousin/workmate/friend told me I can earn here. Once they start earning they then tell all their friends and family and things get exponentially worse as they all sign up often with multiple accounts to maximise earnings. I don't have an issue with anyone earning here and think it's great if it makes a difference to their lives but it's the people who get greedy or desperate and start shitposting with multiple accounts or copy and pasting and unfortunately there are a lot of people doing this. When you can't speak English or know next to nothing about bitcoin it just leads to a colossal degradation in the quality of discussion here and not really many decent discussions happen any more. People don't really engage in conversations, they just write a half-assed post consisting of a sentence or two of rehashed opinion and then move onto the next thread to do the same. Rinse and repeat over however many accounts you have.

GCOX probably have a lot of supporters from the Philippines because one of their major investor is Manny Pacquiao which is a Filipino pride.

I don't know if you remember this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3363270.msg35226256#msg35226256) I made a while back, but it pretty much sums up what the worst of the worst here do as far as creating and posting in idiotic spam threads.  Now, I have no idea whether the ones I caught were from the Philippines or not, but I would certainly argue that they're well-represented among the most egregious shitposters.  I strongly suspect that when families and/or groups of friends are all in signature campaigns, they collaborate and do shit like what you see in the thread I linked to.

It's no wonder bitcointalk has such a spam problem, and from what I've seen most of it comes from just a few countries, and the Philippines is one of them.  I've said that before, and I got branded a horrible racist because of it, but it's true.

Being a bounty manager, I can confidently say that most of the bounty hunters are from Philippines/Indonesia/Ukraine/Africa. I rarely have come across participants with good English speaking skills or from other developed countries. Roughly estimating, 70% of my campaign's participants are from the Philippines.

When there is poverty people will do anything to make a living. Unfortunately some people either don't have the skills to learn how it works or lack the interest.

While they may not have heard of bitcoin - I can remember the pesobit craze last year which originated from the Philippines.
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/pesobit/ A lot of people lost their savings.
Unfortunately people who haven't learned the pitfalls of crypto and follow bounties blindly often also fall victim to pump and dump and other scams.

Yet  -while there may be a lot of Filipinos chasing bounties - I would also like to point out that one of the top merited posters (theyoungmillionaire) on here is from the Philippines. (Probably some others too) Not only does he write good posts in English - he has also translated quite a few posts into Filipino.  Hopefully the knowledge he brings to the local board will convince some of others to get more seriously involved with crypto other than chasing bounties.



There are a lot of people in the Philippines that speak a high level of English. A lot of call centers that service English speaking countries all over the world are based in the Philippines.

If you're familiar with the recent fight of Manny "Pacman" Pacquiao, the Matthysse vs Pacquiao, fighting for the WBA World Welterweight Title.
During the Face-off (Weigh in) of Matthysse and Pacquiao, that's the first time I heard about the GCOX because they've announced it on tv. The announcer stated that it's a cryptocurrency so I searched and found out that this project is supported by Pacquiao. GCOX is the world’s first global celebrity cryptocurrency exchange, has signed Manny "Pacman" Pacquiao as its first boxing celebrity.

This is the reason why there are many Filipinos in the bounty of GCOX, because of him. Filipinos always support Manny "Pacman" Pacquiao on every fights since his battle with Morales and others. Some people around the world also liked him especially when he had a fight with Mayweather Jr,.

Pacquiao is also a Senator in the Philippines so don't be surprised if there are many Filipinos in the GCOX because Filipinos really like and support him. It's also broadcasted in national channels so there are many people already familiar with it.

Im pretty sure that there were tons of Philippines joining all kinds of bounties, ICOs, translation work, giveaways, spamming stuff on social network.. before Pacquiao made that announcement you talk about.

You have to put yourself on their shoes: Would you do that if you had the opportunity, or rather be exploited in some menial minimum wage job which is draining all energy away from you?  People will always tend to minimize energy spent per money generated. Can't blame them. Of course if I was them I would at least make the effort of learning some decent english before posting on the non-local boards. If they fail to do that then there's no other way out but banhammer, at least for these that spam too much.

It could possibly be a good number of people using multiple accounts, but I wouldn't come into that conclusion immediately. Philippines is a 3rd world country with high unemployment rates and high poverty rates. Minimum wage is more or less $10 a day. Most people find themselves lucky enough if they're receiving $15 a day. So yea, expect filipinos to be active in places where they can earn money without much effort.

What Im seeing here are:

a) because of that GCOX exposure during the fight of MP and Matthysse (it was also seen in the ring post), usual bounty hunters from the Philippines make a hype about it to their social media friends resulting for those inexperienced people in crypto to try what doing bounties are. I have seen a Facebook post about it with some good speculations and most of the people's comments are asking questions on how to do bounty as they will try to joined the GCOX campaign. And the rest is history....

b) maybe multi accounts but not all. just my one cent.

The Pacquiao fight was last month. The legions of Filipinos haven't just magically appeared recently. They've been here years and continue to grow.

This is embarrassing. Just when I thought Russians and Indonesians were the most active forum users, and here are my fellow countrymen; proactive in joining bounties. Some of them didn't even bother to post on our local board.



Signature participants from #6 to #45, and #59 to #74 might be calling their friends or relatives.  ::) Or maybe a single user built an army. That campaign needs an eye of the hawk, and I hope coinlocket$ will investigate it.

And I'm pretty sure that the Senator didn't summon or call his fellow citizens to join that bounty.

That's just one campaign... I wouldn't say that mostly bounty hunters came from Philippines. Yeah, there lot of people from this country, but also so many bounty hunters are from Indonesia, Vietnam, Russia, Ukraine. Shortly - not from rich countries.
But I'm curious why this bounty ask for country of origin? Why they need to know it?

Better correct your title you posted All bounty hunters are from Philippines even though you are asking it's obvious and a fact that there are other members from other countries participated in bounty hunting it should be "Majority of bounty hunters comes from the Philippines?"

Of course they will flood this forum. They live on dirt floors with no running water, they can make a fortune on this forum compared to their normal wages.

I think this is a hasty generalization on your part to make a claim of multiaccounting.

I am a Filipino and I can say that the high knowledge in cryptocurrency that we have right now is mainly because of the awareness of the international news (one more point is we are known as multilingual people).  Most of us are very fluent in english and even some are fluent in more than 3 languages.

I have a decent job ( I am a licensed Civil Engineer) and I am here in this forum to read and learn about cryptocurrency.  I also do trading and have ripples and monero coins.  In addition, I am part of lots of bounty campaigns here but I have only one account ( how can I manage multiple accounts given that my work as an engineer is already tedious).

Many Filipinos are familiar with cryptocurrency but there are only minimal supports from the government (we do not have our own established cryptoexchange yet but some startups are initiating to become one).

I can simply prove that if not all mostly yes most of the bounty hunters here are from the philippines or any other third world countries gaining the benefits that it can give to them.

I've been into social groups before. When we started that groups from twitter and facebook at first it was just fine but when the bounty hunting started plus the fame of bitcoin started in the philippines. All suddenly most of the groups was being burned by bounty hunting posts. Then some of them was able to found out that they have good opportunity on this forum since it promotes a bounty hunting threads. 

I guess we can only prove that one if we monitor the posts from altcoins. Maybe adding an analytics to that section?

Nice to see a very relevant comment here from a member who can give real insight to the current situation.

Just because someone has mentioned in the spreadsheet or his profile that he is from a certain place, it does not become true. However, I was not much surprised to read OP. Freelancing is on rise there and thus some people might be doing this with multiple profiles. If what Op claims is true, there is a strong possibility of this only especially after this comment.

I understand why there are so many people here in the Philippines doing everything they can just to earn money. I know that some of them are already abusing the forum and some are earning money even it's in a bad way. Because actually I'm experiencing the same way how they live. But behind all of these, I still can't resist to understand why they are doing such things,  what they were doing makes me think that it's too bad, but also so sad.

I don't know how to defend my countrymens after seeing the spreadsheet, but as a Filipino, I would like to defend the remaining good members and the name of my country from people who were judging it. Yeah, the spreadsheet proves that there are really a lot of bounty hunter from Philippines and you are free to say that too many shitposters are from Philippines but can anyone assure that we are all the same? English is not our native language but it makes me laugh whenever a Filipino beats a Native English Speaker.

By the way OP, is it right to say to your topic's title that "All bounty hunters are from Philippines?" :)
I will not disagree that's it is right if there are no other participants from other countries.

Although there are lot of Filipino who were hunting bounties, guys please, don't forget that there are still some Filipino who were doing good contributions for the forum also at some general discussions. I'm afraid that you might forget that there are still some people from Philippines who are good part of this community.

Watch your tongue buddy :) You don't need to say that.
Thanks man.

If anyone doesn't believe that people from Philippines are really good at speaking English. I'm pretty sure that Google will give you some result  ;)

Or just read this article...
"Well, people will now have to think twice before mocking Filipinos’ use of the English language since according to a study by GlobalEnglish Corporation, the Philippines was named the world’s best country in business English proficiency, in not just one but two consecutive years. GlobalEnglish releases an annual report called Business English Index (BEI)the only index that measures business English proficiency in the workplace."

Source: http://www.staffvirtual.com/call-center-capital-of-world-philippines-best-in-english

Nothing much to say :)

The reason why you're so surprised is that you just saw a solid proof that a lot of Filipinos knows this forum and doing bounties and its not like people in the Philippines will let other people know what they are doing. But I have to agree with your point that there are still a lot of people who doesn't know cryptocurrencies despite the fact that a lof of news report are aired on television.

I don't know what's the motive of the OP of making this thread and such unbelievable title. I did take a look at his profile and found out that this guy couldn't be trusted.

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With Manny Pacquiao's fight last month, people from the Philippines were all watching. That was the first time also that we saw a crypto related ads on his fight. Filipinos with knowledge of crypto suddenly became interested of GCOX thinking that this is a legitimate ICO. They are not only bounty hunters, there are also who invest in that ICO because we believe and have trust in Manny Pacquiao. We could see a lot of Filipinos in GCOX bounty and ICO because of Manny.

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We are a nation of hospitable and friendly people, you can visit the Philippines to prove it yourself. Just respect us and don't messed with us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHcxPOj2EJI

That's probably because of the language and tone you use. When you call people by derogatory terms (pajeets etc) and refer to them as rats or whatever it's a bit over the top. If you were going to call Africans or Mexicans niggers and spics and refer to them as vermin etc then people would probably quite rightly call you a racist. Yes, the spam from anyone is extremely annoying and it is a huge problem with he amount of Filipinos that are causing it, but we shouldn't tar an entire country with the same brush nor is it necessary to refer to them in such disparaging terms which I don't think helps.


This obviously isn't the case across the board, but I'm sure people who work in offices have much better linguistic skills than the average unemployed Filipino on the street. If it was then nobody would have an issue with any Filipinos, but it's the ones who come here and churn out barely decipherable mindless drivel when they quite clearly can't speak English that is the problem, or even worse is when they just copy someone else's post because they quite clearly can't speak English. We really should be encouraging these people to stick to their local boards if they struggle with English as that's what they're there for, and there should certainly be punishments for campaigns that accept and pay for these sorts of post. If they couldn't get paid then they wouldn't make them in the first place.


Would you suck Manny's dick if he told you it was a good idea? Blindly investing in something just because a celebrity endorses it is a good way to lose your money. Manny Pacquiao and many others would advertise anything as long as the money is good enough so I would be careful trusting him or anyone else. Many celebs including Mayweather and Paris Hilton have already backed scams and that's why scammers often use them because it's good promotion and many celebs are happy to advertise anything as long as they get paid to do so.

List of participant of this bounty seems really strange:
- 90% from Philippines or philippines (write the name of your country with a small letter -  ??? what for? mb for to covering up tracks :D)
- One Lady from Rusia ( ???, with untypical name for Russian - Claudyah, ok mb its a nick only, but the mistake of the name of own country...)
- common Citizen
- Italian resident
3 last - have double registration - seems like were troubles with internet in Philippines that day.

To sum up - it is the most funny list I have ever seen ;D

Jesus christ! I didn't know manny pacquiao is an investors to this project but I learned a team who created PACcoin claimed manny was actually involved to such project. Why is this team claiming to be the first celebrity crypto token?  ;D

I'm not surprise why there are lots of Filipinos joining a campaign not just this one. I'm a Filipino too. Filipinos learn to speak and write English well as its been taught in our school since day one. In fact some schools require students to speak English while in the school vicinity.

Got your point but Manny's charisma to the Filipinos is different from that of Mayweather to the Americans. Manny had a dozen of endorsement deals here in the Philippines in fact you can see it in his trunk when he fights. If scammers are using Manny as a tool for their scamming activity then there goes our money in the drain.

I would not, but he can have a handful if he says so. Sounds funny but this only shows how charismatic Manny is to his followers. He would not be a senator for nothing.

Manny doesn't seem charismatic to me at all. In fact, he doesn't seem to have much of a personality at all, but maybe he's more charismatic in his native tongue. I think it's more a case of him being a champion and a working class hero from humble beginnings that most Filipinos get behind him. People treat him like a god there and they will follow anything he says and defend him whenever he does something wrong or amoral, but I doubt he got voted in merely because of his polices, but because of his fame and has legions of fans. If you appeal to the masses then by the very nature of democracy you will get the most votes and win. Why vote for some faceless politician you know nothing about when you can vote for your hero who put your country on the map?

There are lots of Filipinos joining the forum and bounty campaigns, its the truth as we can check the spreadsheet. Be proud of that. Why do you care so much about them telling you are a bounty hunter when its the TRUTH?  So am I. I'm just not a fan of manny pacquiao since the day he got into politics but I' proud he wins in the ring. We celebrate that. Now don't get upset with that lowercase.

You got it right. The political game here is very different from that of yours.

Whenever I see titles like this on a forum targeting a particular country, I feel really sad.

To add to it OP has not added any solid proof to support his finding. In case the owner of a forum is noticing spam from  a particular Geo, he always has the option to block IP of a particular region to access the site. That will not completely solve the problem (as there are ways to bypass IP restrictions) but can control it to some extent.

One possibility here is that the ANN thread of the bounty campaign was shared to a telegram group of Filipino bounty hunters that is why a lot of people from the Philippines have joined the campaign. Keep in mind that this telegram groups exist for this kinds of matter and I have observe some of it from air drops to newly opened bounty campaigns they let their fellow brethren be updated of such thing. But if you honestly think that this are only owned by a few Filipino users you can freely track the movement of their transactions to catch them if they are cheating.

There are lots of pilipinos joining the forum and bounty campaigns. I confidently say that most of the bounty hunters are from
Philippines/Indonesia/Ukraine/Africa and Russian.I rarely have come across participants with good English speaking skills or from other developed countries.

I'm a Filipino and I don't think there is a problem of being a hunter. You can't deny that most of the Filipino know the basic english and that are there advantages. And Don't wonder why there are so many Filipinos in GCOX Campaign it because one of the vital investor there is 'Manny Pacquiao'.
Filipinos is a hard working people.
Not all of us here in the Philippines know about crypto.
And to all the members here never put most of the blame to the Filipino regarding the spam on this forum.
Never insult us for Copying and pasting report because each campaign has a rule so if you think Filipinos are good in copy paste then you are wrong. We Filipinos was thought to speak and right english since day one, speaking english here in the Philippines is normal and most of us know the basic english even the poor one who can't afford to go in schoool. To all my country men here sorry for my grammar  ;D
We don't cheat and we will never cheat in all kind of bounties, we will never make another account  just to farm in any bounties. We are honest enough and we're not greedy against our neighbors,we learn to give in a right manner :)

I checked the recent posts of each accounts that joined GCOX and I was surprised that they didn't post a single reply in the local board. The posts are located in Announcement, Bounties, Altcoin Discussion, and Bitcoin Discussion. If you're a truly newbie in this forum, the first board you will check is the Local board to ask some things to your fellow citizens unless you have a great knowledge about crypto. Sadly, some posts are not good.


It's true that the Senator didn't promote GCOX for the Filipinos to join the bounty. I think the reason why there are so many Filipinos on that campaign is to have a great assurance for the income. Every bounty hunters have a mindset of securing the profit they will gain right?

Then I just realized, why are some people always pointing out that the race is just a full of bounty hunters? If there's a problem regarding about the bounty hunting you can easily report them. There's a reputation section, you can post all the multiple accounts you will found. It's a common issue, that's why I only stated the reason why there are so many Filipinos in the GCOX since the OP's point is about that.

Well since I am also a filipino and i know manny since before he just started. Manny was really making mistakes before but you can really see that he changed alot after changing his religion.

I cannot even say that he is that charismatic but in some other time he keep telling us not to lose hope especially to those who are on the lowest class in philippine society.

This might surprise you but manny is actually making more informative proposals in the senate rather than those other corrupt politicians. That is the good thing about him being a senator.

Manny is one of the richest person in the Philippines right now yet one of the lowest class before so he understands what the filipinos needed.

We also do not consider him as a god. In fact most of the filipinos are making fun out of him because of the way how he speaks. Especially that he is having a hard time speaking in english.  Tho you are right that manny was voted since he is more famous and the people knows what he is capable of.

Plus the altcoin that the bitcoin syndicate are actually telling that manny is creating a coin. This is just one of their fvcking motives to gain money from the poor filipino people who doesnt understand what they are into. Just the idea that they will gain from it even if not. This assholes are really making alot from at by using pacman. I also think pacman doesnt have an idea at all

Probably to determine what country has the most foolish people.

Sorry but confused if participant of specific country is maximum or even all. What the problem if it happen? As there are several local board and on there is a way to post bounty. So from there all participant can come from that country. Also if project require to promote on specific country or restrict others than it can happen same.

OF course many of bounty participants are came from Philippines you know what? Because one of biggest investor of GCOX is Filipino Billionaire and his name is Manny Paquiao a professional boxer and politician, currently serving as a Senator of the Philippines.

Do you know that the GCOX was shown in the Last Manny Pacquiao Match last July right? Most Filipino Bounty Hunters will come running for it because it has the Manny Pacquiao name on it. Who knows if it can bring them whatnot?


That's right. We won't even know if anyone is an indian, an arabic, a spanish, american, british here just because of their username. You have to check each and every post of those people to know more about them. If there is something wrong about being a bounty hunter and being a Filipino, you might as well delete the local boards right? This is one of the reasons I hate reading these kinds of topics. You don't even do your own research but you ask for opinions. Lol do something more than degrading a race.

This is very touching brother. I am a Filipino, and reading this thread really making me so degrading. So happy that there are some really understand our situation. I will not argue about the shit posting and spamming because somehow this is true. But please dont generalized the  Filipinos to do all the shitposting here. We maybe a third world country but we are still want to be part of the crypto community. Most of us is striving hard to learn the basic not just to earn big but also to gain more knowledge how to invest right. Also thanks you for the kind word with this kind of degrading "Of course they will flood this forum. They live on dirt floors with no running water, they can make a fortune on this forum compared to their normal wages."

All bounty hunters can't be Philippines rather most of them. Apart from this spreadsheet I believed no other prove though its enough. My point here is that 100% of hunters in the Crypto world can't just be from one country is better you say most of the hunters instead of saying all.

Only posting my reply to your question after having read all the comments. My answer is you should not find it strange that GCOX is being supported by Filipinos when it is being promoted by one highly sought after Filipino public / sports figure.
What I find strange though is that there are so many horrible high ranking member racists in this forum. With all due respect Shame on you.

Good day everyone,
I'm also from philippines,and one of the participants on gcox bounty campaign.

yes! I admit that most of the participants on gcox bounty are filipino's,but you can not say that this is a spam or claiming for multi-account.
Do you know why most filipino's are joined the gcox bounty?
Just because of manny pacquiao.

Manny paqcuiao is our pinoy pride in world of boxing, and i want you to know that he's one of the key investor of gcox. So what do you expect from filipino's?

Let me ask you one thing. If you are in our situation and your country is involed,what would you do?

Please answer me.

Many Filipinos in this thread defense themselves because of Manny Pacquiao's involvement but it can't hide the fact that there's a huge amount of Filipinos bounty hunters and a lot of them are spammers, trashposters.

Supporting Manny Pacquiao? I don't think so, they're taking advantages of him. His appearance maybe a sign of non-scamming project and once those hunters get their bounty distribution, they will be the first ones to sell out. Is this called "support"?


I see Michael Owen is also an investor but there's no English bounty hunter joining.

I'm a Filipino and I defend my countrymens, but I didn't used Manny Pacman as an excuse. Yeah you were right, some shitposters are from my country and the sad part is I won't argue with that since it's true but I'm sure that the majority of shitposters are not from Philippines, I don't have evidences to prove it but I can sense it with my guts. Also, even though we can tell that there are lot of spammers from my country, don't forget that some Filipinos are still fulfilling the Forum goals which is "spam free" as we contribute in spam busting and good discussions. Not like other countries who have shitposters but also doesn't have any good members left.

Maybe it's because he doesn't have that too many followers  ::)

A celebrity involved in an ico could be a first sign that something is fishy, as mentioned by SEC. As for Filipinos being spammers was deducted from the local board or by other means? 

We are now entering a global world, and we should consider individuals, and their personal morality and desire to improve themselves. Some of the worst and most evil people come from the Eton/Oxford English 'elite'. Bounty spamming may be used as a means of supplementing an income, but that doesn't mean that you can't be productive member of the forum, and use your time here to improve yourself, and your employment prospects. Don't waste your time by scratching for pennies, and risking a ban. Read, learn and be constructive in your posting - it will help to to join the better bounties at the very least.

Im also from the PH and he is right, a lot of people here still dont have any idea on what bitcoin is if Im going to conduct a survey that ask people here near me if they know bitcoin estimatedly 8 out of 10 people here will tell me that bitcoin is a scam.

Everytime I ask some of my friend's about it they will answer fast that it is a scam and Im trying my best to give them an idea about it though non of them are interested to talk about it.

If I am going to answer about that campaign, I will tell you that I think there's a lot of alt accounts in there that own by only one person.

I know the fact that there's a lot of abusive filipino's here in this forum and Im very disappointed about it because those people dont think about the forum they are the selfish one's that will do anything just to get what they want.

I cant blame anyone here that they are blaming filipino's causing spam in this forum because its true, but please dont look at us as one(1), there are also legit filipino member's here and loyal to this forum.

Oh please give me a break! That is just a superficial statement and not a thought provoking one at all. We support Pacquiao because we are his great fans and through this support we are going to be rewarded, i guess it is not a big deal right?

I don't know why this residency became an issue where the form only ask to put a country. Anyone can lie and place any location they want as long as it's not US and Singapore.

You mean they are not telling the truth they are actually not from Philippines? I thought its China and US that is hard on crypto. Singapore is very open to it.

But who cares if they are from Philippines. They were accepted by the bounty manager, he sees something to these participants that can add up to their workforce. Manny Pacquiao need more muscles to promote the cryptocurrency he had invested with.

And culture clashes along with left-wing madness have made it one of the most divided worlds I've ever experienced.

I do agree that people should try to improve themselves, but I don't see that happening at all with the bounty hunters as far as their participation on bitcointalk goes, and that's not just a Filipino thing and not just a language thing.  All the alt accounts and abuse usually have an advertisement in a signature associated with it.  They may be improving their lives financially, but they're eroding the quality of the forum.  I don't know how your Fit To Talk forum is going, but I don't see much desire here for people to improve their English.  It's just too bad that local board posts usually aren't paid for by campaigns.

And this:
is just plain wrong, and I bristle whenever I read stuff like that.  These bounties pay pretty good, even if you're living in the US, UK, or any other country where it costs a lot just to live.  In 3rd world countries I would imagine you could live like a king if you have your whole family enrolled in a bounty.  Imagine what you could earn if you throw a bunch of alt accounts into the mix--and that's the problem.  People are waaay too incentivized to just keep churning out the dreck that these bounties deem acceptable.  That's not going to change until the bounties start raising the bar for entrance.

But aren't the best bounty programmes really difficult to join? I see reports that some of the lesser ones offer fairly low payment, and then they try to avoid paying even these small amounts.

I guess it depends on how they get paid, whether it's in tokens or bitcoin.  There are still a number of bitcoin-paying campaigns that pay fairly well and that still accept lower-ranked members.  If it's an altcoin bounty and they pay out a decent amount of tokens AND if the token doesn't go to zero as soon as it's launched, they can make quite a bit.  Plus from what I've seen, there are more parts of the bounty (signature campaign, FB & Twitter campaigns, and translations) AND more bounties to enter.  There was one bounty hunter who made a scam accusation not too long ago who said he was scammed out of well over $1000 worth of tokens that he was due for a month's work (can't remember the exact amount), and that was just from one bounty.

The point is, the amounts aren't really small.  Certainly not pennies.  Look at how much Chipmixer pays for the maximum of 50 posts/week.  It's a fantastic way to earn some bitcoin, and if you lived in a poor area you could probably live on it, assuming the price of bitcoin doesn't tank.  If I had alt accounts in other campaigns, I could very easily meet all my monthly financial obligations (though I do live like an hermit-aesthete and don't have many expenses).  It's crazy if you think about it, but it's true.

And no, I don't think most bounties are hard to join.  If they were, there wouldn't be so many damn shitposters on bitcointalk.  That point should be self-evident.

The high paying bitcoin ones usually are really difficult to join. It depends on the manager. If you've got one that is doing his job and checking users for quality then shitposters have no chance. It's very hard to get onto Chipmixer for example and only the best posters usually do, but ICO campaigns are happy to accept almost anyone because any person they can get is beneficial to them. They pay people in tokens they've created themselves out of thin air and it costs them nothing to do so so why not accept anyone? If every campaign had a decent manager who was checking for quality then we wouldn't have this issue in the first place, and that's why I'm all for punishments for those that run spam campaigns. People would soon start doing their job if it's impacting them financially but when there's no repercussions for those that don't then nothing will change.


You can probably live off Chipmixer in the UK, nevermind developing countries which it will easily be a better monthly wage than probably a half-decent job there. For 200 posts a month you get 0.15 which is currently a little over £800. That's like a part time job wage over here. State benefits for the unemployed are only around £300 a month and that's what the government says is the minimum somebody needs to survive here (though you'd struggle on that), so £800 would pay your rent, food, bills and probably a couple of hundred left over depending on how frugal you live. You can probably earn this from alt coin bounties if you have enough accounts and that's why people create so many alts because the more you have the more you can earn here. A lot of airdrops only require you to sign up with a forum account so there's no real effort needed other than the time it takes to sign up with your account.



Anyone can join bounties. Bounty campaigns pop up almost every day and they often accept unlimited amounts of users. Most accept Juniors, some even Newbies, and like you said there's usually several avenues that they can earn in: signature campaign, twitter, facebook, translation, plus others, so that's why bitcointalk is so attractive to them. You can literally earn a decent living all from home. Great in some aspects and I'm very thankful for it, but when there's no real rules here for bounties (other than don't pay people to post in your thread but paradoxically it's ok to pay them to spam everywhere else) it just turns into a nightmare of a shitshow with wall to wall spam. If we'd have enforced the sig campaign guidelines we created and given out punishments for badly run campaigns we wouldn't have this issue in the first place but the longer we leave our heads in the sand things just get exponentially worse day by day, especially when people who are making good money here tell all their friends and family and they sign up with half a dozen accounts each to bleed bounties for all they're worth. Something needs to change with the culture of bounties here or spammers are going to be the only people posting here soon enough (and they've already dwarfed regular/quality posts as it's almost impossible to have a decent discussion in most places).

All accounts who submitted their forms might be telling false locations. Like spreadsheet #57, where he/she resides in "Citizen".
Why not see the bounty thread for yourself.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4608750

I've been posting in forums for over 20 years, and so far I have never rented my signature. I've promoted a variety of products with affiliate links, but these have all been services that I've used, and that I know are honest. By promting a site or product in your signature, you are hanging your reputation on it, and I believe you should research the product before you take the risk.

and I've had several offers over the years, including some in this forum. So far I have declined all of them.

Hey, don't be so harsh on the Filipino people. I know more than a few Filipinos IRL , and they are genuinely nice people. They aren't like the Americans or you know like the..Irish(known to swear a lot). They are sweet people and happy with what they have. Most of them don't have the "Hey, I am asshole" type of attitude.

The reason why these people come to join bounties, is that they don't get decent jobs, as in people undervalue and underestimate them a lot. They get paid like 800-1000$ per month, after working their asses off. Most of them usually work in places like McDonalds, and mainly be cashiers and jobs like that. Now, I haven't been to Philippines but there are lot of them in the country I reside in. So I am saying all this from what I have seen. Just to be clear, I am not a Filipino.

Also know that, there are a few contributors from Philippines here: theyoungmillionnaire,Silent26, rickbig41 , dabs,etc.

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People have earned like 200,000$ and more of just one bounty by abusing them.

People can pay their college tuition off just by being in chipmixer(30,000$ is the average). So imagine. Its fucking crazy. Never thought you could accomplish all your dreams just by shitposting in bounties.

We don't deserve this world.  :-[

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This is somewhat untrue. Nobody would care about anybody's reputation after a certain point. Ref links are almost the same as signatures. You're promoting a company either way. And promoting doesn't necessarily mean to destroy your reputation, there's nothing wrong with it. There are members who don't have any signatures but still have a bad reputation. Point is, if you're genuine person, you don't have to worry about a signature changing your reputation, what you do and say is what actually affects it. And the reputation stays in and only in the forum and not in your real life. 

It won't serve any purpose IMO. There is nothing stopping these farmers to create a new account and start managing the campaigns from a newbie account. Since this is a private forum, I am all in for charging these ICOs to post their campaigns and posts. This should at least remove all the crapy 1 person scam ICOs.


THIS!!! To be honest I am tired of seeing all these useless topics being created by newbies which add literally no value to this forum. I have given up building my ignore list it's just not worth it. These new accounts keep popping up and just keep ruining my experience on bitcointalk. I have altogether left visiting some sections of the forum.

We need heavy moderation, especially on the newbies. Something like we discussed in the patrol thread.

This is logical, that most of bounty hunters are from relatively poor countries since the bounty amount is somewhat good pay for them when most of the times is nothing for people from more developed regions.

But it seems quite weird that you did not mention India, I am quite confident that there is a lot of bounty hunters from that region and good indication is usage of a speech manner as " Dear,Sir,Madam, My brother,My firend  and so on" which as far as iknow is charasteristic to this region. Which for me is annoying as fu*k.

Ooops, it's becoming a debate here..

Hot! Hot! Hot!

If KYC is implemented on bitcointalk.org before I think we don't have to say Philippines or Indonesia or any other country is the most participant on bounty or making shit post bla bla bla... the summary would show the thing (but I guess this won't be possible)

No matter where everyone came from if they do shit posting just report them mods can do the next step... if they are not what the harm?
That's why this forum is open and it has it's own rule, theymos and companies never said only 2,000 members from this country would be eligible for membership... as they welcome everyone as equal as long as they follow the regulations...


Remember that people has their own reason of being here, not everyone is just here for the sole purpose of earning...

Keep calm everyone and God Bless.


Edited: Just double check the  link... it show Philippines is the majority of the participants on this campaign....

One thing to add: a mere campaign won't prove about the thing you are claiming, since like in the court during a trial a single witness is not valid 100 percent to justify that the person is guilty or to say that the suspect is ennocent... find another proofs and end of the discussion...

Is there any problem with that? You know why? because that bounty only accept few countries and they rejected country from US and Singapore, And Also you know why there so Many PH race joined there? Our HERO (PACQUIAO) is belong to that project.. Now my question is, IS THERE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT?

Well the OP's post really has a tendency towards racist and it is not a good thing, but i thing OP just want to state that there are lot of Philippines when there are many of copy paste cases or spamming cases, and usually it is come from the bounty hunters. It does not meant to mock a country, just to question maybe if there is connection between them . I am not fro Philippines but maybe OP need to pick a better words to make a post so it does not look like an offensive statement.

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Hello sir!  I got your point here! That almost bounty hunters are came from Philippines and trying to flood some bounty campaigns here in bitcointalk forum. But as a Filipino it is very painful to me that almost all Filipinos here are accusing bounty campaign abusers, shitposters, idiots, spammers, and etc. Every single moment I saw those kind of comments for my fellowmen it crushed my heart and it was very hurtful to me.

I won't defend bad deeds amd works of all Filipinos but I want to say for all of people's here don't accuse all Filipinos because not all my fellowmen are not likely whay you are expected. So please kindly help them and gives advices instead of degrading because their are also a human that have family's and have a daily needs that trying to find additional ways to live even they are hardly sacrifices.

As a Filipino I am proud to say we are here not for money only but to learn new things! Don't let money controls us but rather people control's the money.



Thank you!  :)

I am also a filipino but a wrong doing is still a wrong doing. Most of this bounty hunters does not have enough knowledge to what this forum is all about.

So basically one of the main problem is that most of the filipino newbies here does not read rules. Why would they care if they are only here for an easy coin.

We are not accusing all the filipinos here there are alot of good filipinos as well contributing on this forum. Yet we still can't deny the fact that mostly the bounty hunters are a filipino.

It is indeed painful but we need to correct this mistakes not just for the benefit of this forum but for the benefit of them aswell. That is the true form of caring accepting the fact and correcting your fellowmens mistake

So quick to judge. A piece of a link cannot be a proof of multi-accounting.  Isn't it good news that many people in the Philippines involve in cryptocurrency?
Perhaps not all just bounty hunters but investors as well. And we cannot really ignore bounty hunters, they are like bees in the garden of the cryptocurrency, help to pollinate a new blooming project to become a fruit.