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Title: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: smoothie on February 21, 2014, 07:48:43 PM
Next Capitulation to occur between now and Mid April 2014.

Soon there after price will rise steadily to reach new ATH's by mid June 2014.

After that is all "CHOOOOOOOOO CHOOOOOOO".



Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: Torque on February 21, 2014, 07:55:39 PM
Seriously? 

Sorry smoothie, but a guy that's been around these boards since 2011 and the best TA you can come up with is a freakin' 2-month range for final capitulation?  My 13 year old daughter could have surmised that just from looking at a few historical charts for about 5 minutes.

Nail it down to the exact week and I'll be impressed.    ::)


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: delaro on February 21, 2014, 07:55:46 PM
Next Capitulation to occur between now and Mid April 2014.

Soon there after price will rise steadily to reach new ATH's by mid June 2014.

After that is all "CHOOOOOOOOO CHOOOOOOO".



So you gave us a two month time frame... can you be any more specific?


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: smoothie on February 21, 2014, 08:42:42 PM
Seriously?  

Sorry smoothie, but a guy that's been around these boards since 2011 and the best TA you can come up with is a freakin' 2-month range for final capitulation?  My 13 year old daughter could have surmised that just from looking at a few historical charts for about 5 minutes.

Nail it down to the exact week and I'll be impressed.    ::)

Lol please bring your daughter to the forum and have her do it.

Talk is cheap as usual.

Perhaps you missed my recent call on gox 3 weeks prior to their withdrawal halt or my $600 prediction where I put up 2 BTC and won.



I'm not here to impress you as the world doesn't revolve around you. Lol ;D


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: DebitMe on February 21, 2014, 08:47:37 PM
Seriously?  

Sorry smoothie, but a guy that's been around these boards since 2011 and the best TA you can come up with is a freakin' 2-month range for final capitulation?  My 13 year old daughter could have surmised that just from looking at a few historical charts for about 5 minutes.

Nail it down to the exact week and I'll be impressed.    ::)

Lol please bring your daughter to the forum and have her do it.

Talk is cheap as usual.

Perhaps you missed my recent call on gox 3 weeks prior to their withdrawal halt or my $600 prediction where I put up 2 BTC and won.



I'm not here to impress you as the world doesn't revolve around you. Lol ;D

I respect your advice, so your saying I should HODL?


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: Torque on February 21, 2014, 08:53:17 PM
Seriously?  

Sorry smoothie, but a guy that's been around these boards since 2011 and the best TA you can come up with is a freakin' 2-month range for final capitulation?  My 13 year old daughter could have surmised that just from looking at a few historical charts for about 5 minutes.

Nail it down to the exact week and I'll be impressed.    ::)

Lol please bring your daughter to the forum and have her do it.

Talk is cheap as usual.

Perhaps you missed my recent call on gox 3 weeks prior to their withdrawal halt or my $600 prediction where I put up 2 BTC and won.



I'm not here to impress you as the world doesn't revolve around you. Lol ;D
Hey man, not trying to pick a fight.  But if I predicted a full two month window for capitulation (which in my mind, it'll happen within the next 15 days) and posted that on this board I would have absolutely been laughed at. A lot of other members with very little TA skills have already surmised that.  


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: MAbtc on February 21, 2014, 08:56:28 PM
But if I predicted a full two month window for capitulation (which in my mind, it'll happen within the next 2 weeks) and posted that on this board I would have absolutely been laughed at.

Many do not believe a capitulation event is coming from this point forward, so to assert that one is coming is substantive, I think.


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: smoothie on February 21, 2014, 09:18:51 PM
Seriously?  

Sorry smoothie, but a guy that's been around these boards since 2011 and the best TA you can come up with is a freakin' 2-month range for final capitulation?  My 13 year old daughter could have surmised that just from looking at a few historical charts for about 5 minutes.

Nail it down to the exact week and I'll be impressed.    ::)

Lol please bring your daughter to the forum and have her do it.

Talk is cheap as usual.

Perhaps you missed my recent call on gox 3 weeks prior to their withdrawal halt or my $600 prediction where I put up 2 BTC and won.



I'm not here to impress you as the world doesn't revolve around you. Lol ;D

I respect your advice, so your saying I should HODL?

I'm saying I'm going to and expect to have cheaper coins in the next month or two.


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: kireinaha on February 21, 2014, 09:19:14 PM
agreed, two months is too wide a range, we're in a major period of price discovery at the moment, and I expect we'll find capitulation within the next week. Two months is pretty much guaranteed.


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: sgbett on February 21, 2014, 09:20:21 PM
agreed, two months is too wide a range, we're in a major period of price discovery at the moment, and I expect we'll find capitulation within the next week. Two months is pretty much guaranteed.

feb 29th it will be 5 figures


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: cbutters on February 21, 2014, 09:31:27 PM
Sorry for this extremely noob question.... but I've always been a bit confused about this...

When someone mentions a "capitulation event" I know that it means in the finance world a selloff. however, in the bitcoin world, here on these forums, when people mention a "capitulation event" does that mean the bitcoin price rises exponentially because people are selling off their USD dollars, or do they actually mean that a "capitulation event" here means a big selloff of bitcoins resulting in the price dropping?


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: kireinaha on February 21, 2014, 09:34:47 PM
Sorry for this extremely noob question.... but I've always been a bit confused about this...

When someone mentions a "capitulation event" I know that it means in the finance world a selloff. however, in the bitcoin world, here on these forums, when people mention a "capitulation event" does that mean the bitcoin price rises exponentially because people are selling off their USD dollars, or do they actually mean that a "capitulation event" here means a big selloff of bitcoins resulting in the price dropping?

it means finding the price floor... the lowest price level that bitcoin will settle at before the prices begin to rise again (hopefully to next rally)


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: aminorex on February 21, 2014, 10:26:19 PM
agreed, two months is too wide a range, we're in a major period of price discovery at the moment, and I expect we'll find capitulation within the next week. Two months is pretty much guaranteed.

feb 29th it will be 5 figures

2015 has no 29th


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: zoinky on February 21, 2014, 10:28:12 PM
Solid advice here.


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: smoothie on February 21, 2014, 10:30:41 PM
Seriously?  

Sorry smoothie, but a guy that's been around these boards since 2011 and the best TA you can come up with is a freakin' 2-month range for final capitulation?  My 13 year old daughter could have surmised that just from looking at a few historical charts for about 5 minutes.

Nail it down to the exact week and I'll be impressed.    ::)

Lol please bring your daughter to the forum and have her do it.

Talk is cheap as usual.

Perhaps you missed my recent call on gox 3 weeks prior to their withdrawal halt or my $600 prediction where I put up 2 BTC and won.



I'm not here to impress you as the world doesn't revolve around you. Lol ;D
Hey man, not trying to pick a fight.  But if I predicted a full two month window for capitulation (which in my mind, it'll happen within the next 15 days) and posted that on this board I would have absolutely been laughed at. A lot of other members with very little TA skills have already surmised that.  

I could care less if you laugh at me.

If you didn't mean to pick a fight you perhaps did not need to involve your daughter in our discussion as a mature adult would not need to use their child to get a point across to another adult.  ;D


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: smoothie on February 21, 2014, 10:32:40 PM
agreed, two months is too wide a range, we're in a major period of price discovery at the moment, and I expect we'll find capitulation within the next week. Two months is pretty much guaranteed.

I love how everyone is so sure about what is to come.

Remember I just made a 2 BTC bet that Bitcoin price would hit $600 by march 22nd 2014 and many didn't think it would happen.

A week later it did.

 :D

I don't presume to know everything but I am making my call (as wide a range as I picked) and making it publicly known for fun.


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: MAbtc on February 21, 2014, 10:47:32 PM
agreed, two months is too wide a range, we're in a major period of price discovery at the moment, and I expect we'll find capitulation within the next week. Two months is pretty much guaranteed.

A week? That's pretty optimistic even for a bear. :)

I think we still may see some bounce from oversold conditions. This still on target for now:

https://i.imgur.com/QoeHHXDl.png

But TA takes a back seat to repeated Goxxing. We'll see what happens upon another update re: withdrawals and how closely Stamp follows...


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: fonzie on February 21, 2014, 10:49:55 PM
agreed, two months is too wide a range, we're in a major period of price discovery at the moment, and I expect we'll find capitulation within the next week. Two months is pretty much guaranteed.

A week? That's pretty optimistic even for a bear. :)

I think we still may see some bounce from oversold conditions. This still on target for now:

https://i.imgur.com/QoeHHXDl.png

But TA takes a back seat to repeated Goxxing. We'll see what happens upon another update re: withdrawals and how closely Stamp follows...

 8) My long positions are set up to close almost exactly between you´re two red circles(613-645). Bid walls on Finex are already pilling up, after that another round of shorting. MAX PROFIT! :D :D


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: Raize on February 21, 2014, 11:00:29 PM
Smoothie,
I think capitulation is settling in and the rise will be much slower.

Do you want to do a 2 BTC bet on the ATH prediction?

I don't see how we'll hit a new ATH by July 2014, honestly. I think it'll be at least a year out.

We'd just need a mutually-agreed upon exchange or price indicator and an escrow.


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: goxed on February 21, 2014, 11:27:11 PM
Seriously?  

Sorry smoothie, but a guy that's been around these boards since 2011 and the best TA you can come up with is a freakin' 2-month range for final capitulation?  My 13 year old daughter could have surmised that just from looking at a few historical charts for about 5 minutes.

Nail it down to the exact week and I'll be impressed.    ::)

Lol please bring your daughter to the forum and have her do it.

Talk is cheap as usual.

Perhaps you missed my recent call on gox 3 weeks prior to their withdrawal halt or my $600 prediction where I put up 2 BTC and won.



I'm not here to impress you as the world doesn't revolve around you. Lol ;D

I would be the last person to get on the wrong side of OP. ;)


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: seleme on February 21, 2014, 11:33:10 PM
I pretty much agree with your time stamps here.


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: fallinglantern on February 21, 2014, 11:58:54 PM
2015 has no 29th
No, but 2016 does  ;D


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: WuttWutt on February 22, 2014, 12:01:12 AM
smoothie was wrong about predicting what happened last week so doubtful he'll has an ability to predit the future like he claims, infact since he was wrong he has more of a tendency to be wrong


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: gentlemand on February 22, 2014, 12:02:51 AM
He can't predict the future?

I feel exposed to a terrific betrayal.


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: smoothie on February 22, 2014, 12:06:09 AM
smoothie was wrong about predicting what happened last week so doubtful he'll has an ability to predit the future like he claims, infact since he was wrong he has more of a tendency to be wrong

lol what did I predict and please define a source within my posts last week where I was wrong in this so called "prediction"?

Thanks


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: Tirapon on February 22, 2014, 12:13:22 AM
Smoothie,
I think capitulation is settling in and the rise will be much slower.

Do you want to do a 2 BTC bet on the ATH prediction?

I don't see how we'll hit a new ATH by July 2014, honestly. I think it'll be at least a year out.

We'd just need a mutually-agreed upon exchange or price indicator and an escrow.

I'd be tempted to take that bet.


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: WuttWutt on February 22, 2014, 12:36:37 AM
smoothie was wrong about predicting what happened last week so doubtful he'll has an ability to predit the future like he claims, infact since he was wrong he has more of a tendency to be wrong

lol what did I predict and please define a source within my posts last week where I was wrong in this so called "prediction"?

Thanks
thing is you didn't predict it which implicitly means you were wrong. this is noteworthy because you are pretending to predict the future now. is this hard for u to understand, fortuneteller?


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: MAbtc on February 22, 2014, 12:39:50 AM
smoothie was wrong about predicting what happened last week so doubtful he'll has an ability to predit the future like he claims, infact since he was wrong he has more of a tendency to be wrong

lol what did I predict and please define a source within my posts last week where I was wrong in this so called "prediction"?

Thanks
thing is you didn't predict it which implicitly means you were wrong. this is noteworthy because you are pretending to predict the future now. is this hard for u to understand, fortuneteller?

You're saying he was wrong because he didn't make a prediction?


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: smoothie on February 22, 2014, 12:40:40 AM
smoothie was wrong about predicting what happened last week so doubtful he'll has an ability to predit the future like he claims, infact since he was wrong he has more of a tendency to be wrong

lol what did I predict and please define a source within my posts last week where I was wrong in this so called "prediction"?

Thanks
thing is you didn't predict it which implicitly means you were wrong. this is noteworthy because you are pretending to predict the future now. is this hard for u to understand, fortuneteller?

Please provide a source for your claims.

Otherwise you are just another failing newb troll.

Thanks  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: WuttWutt on February 22, 2014, 12:42:05 AM
smoothie was wrong about predicting what happened last week so doubtful he'll has an ability to predit the future like he claims, infact since he was wrong he has more of a tendency to be wrong

lol what did I predict and please define a source within my posts last week where I was wrong in this so called "prediction"?

Thanks
thing is you didn't predict it which implicitly means you were wrong. this is noteworthy because you are pretending to predict the future now. is this hard for u to understand, fortuneteller?

You're saying he was wrong because he didn't make a prediction?
exactly

for smoothie as a selfproclaimed fortuneteller that is noteworthy IMO

i doubt he can manage to spin himself out of this one lol


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: smoothie on February 22, 2014, 12:44:17 AM
smoothie was wrong about predicting what happened last week so doubtful he'll has an ability to predit the future like he claims, infact since he was wrong he has more of a tendency to be wrong

lol what did I predict and please define a source within my posts last week where I was wrong in this so called "prediction"?

Thanks
thing is you didn't predict it which implicitly means you were wrong. this is noteworthy because you are pretending to predict the future now. is this hard for u to understand, fortuneteller?

You're saying he was wrong because he didn't make a prediction?
exactly

for smoothie as a selfproclaimed fortuneteller that is noteworthy IMO

i doubt he can manage to spin himself out of this one lol

@WUTWUT,

Here you go noob. My prediction last month about MTGOX:


Broken BTC withdrawals from Gox are piling up bigtime.  There are nearly 200 broken transactions -- totaling almost 4000 BTC -- and some have been waiting more than four days!!  Most are stuck due to outpoints already spent.

And yes, 25% of my own BTC are currently stuck (26 hours and counting).

This is getting serious... VERY serious.


Oh dear. This is getting dire. First fiat, now bitcoins. Are Gox finally on the edge of disappearing with everyone's money? It wouldn't surprise me. There was never any logical reason not to process international wires for six months, unless they wanted to collect peoples' cash.

I still stick to my prediction that in 2014 MTGOX will have some sort of crisis or an all out disappearance and stopping of trading etc.


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: WuttWutt on February 22, 2014, 12:48:33 AM
smoothie was wrong about predicting what happened last week so doubtful he'll has an ability to predit the future like he claims, infact since he was wrong he has more of a tendency to be wrong

lol what did I predict and please define a source within my posts last week where I was wrong in this so called "prediction"?

Thanks
thing is you didn't predict it which implicitly means you were wrong. this is noteworthy because you are pretending to predict the future now. is this hard for u to understand, fortuneteller?

You're saying he was wrong because he didn't make a prediction?
exactly

for smoothie as a selfproclaimed fortuneteller that is noteworthy IMO

i doubt he can manage to spin himself out of this one lol

@WUTWUT,

Here you go noob. My prediction last month about MTGOX:


Broken BTC withdrawals from Gox are piling up bigtime.  There are nearly 200 broken transactions -- totaling almost 4000 BTC -- and some have been waiting more than four days!!  Most are stuck due to outpoints already spent.

And yes, 25% of my own BTC are currently stuck (26 hours and counting).

This is getting serious... VERY serious.


Oh dear. This is getting dire. First fiat, now bitcoins. Are Gox finally on the edge of disappearing with everyone's money? It wouldn't surprise me. There was never any logical reason not to process international wires for six months, unless they wanted to collect peoples' cash.

I still stick to my prediction that in 2014 MTGOX will have some sort of crisis or an all out disappearance and stopping of trading etc.

You didn't make a prediction there you were just asking yourself questions.

And nowhere there did you even remotely predict the price would drop like you are predicting with this thread


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: smoothie on February 22, 2014, 12:55:06 AM
@wuttwutt,

here is my original post about the prediction. Fail more noob  ;D ;D ;D

If I had to make a prediction for 2014 it would be that MTGOX would somehow cause some sort of news that would start a panic selling of Bitcoin. Not to imply that Bitcoin is not going up longer-term. But I sense a quiet before the storm surrounding MTGOX. They have been awfully quiet since summer of 2013.


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: smoothie on February 22, 2014, 12:59:59 AM
Toot!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=481134.msg5291566#msg5291566


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: smoothie on February 22, 2014, 01:01:10 AM
smoothie was wrong about predicting what happened last week so doubtful he'll has an ability to predit the future like he claims, infact since he was wrong he has more of a tendency to be wrong

lol what did I predict and please define a source within my posts last week where I was wrong in this so called "prediction"?

Thanks
thing is you didn't predict it which implicitly means you were wrong. this is noteworthy because you are pretending to predict the future now. is this hard for u to understand, fortuneteller?

You're saying he was wrong because he didn't make a prediction?
exactly

for smoothie as a selfproclaimed fortuneteller that is noteworthy IMO

i doubt he can manage to spin himself out of this one lol

See above noob and fail more. LOL!!  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: WuttWutt on February 22, 2014, 01:05:41 AM
smoothie was wrong about predicting what happened last week so doubtful he'll has an ability to predit the future like he claims, infact since he was wrong he has more of a tendency to be wrong

lol what did I predict and please define a source within my posts last week where I was wrong in this so called "prediction"?

Thanks
thing is you didn't predict it which implicitly means you were wrong. this is noteworthy because you are pretending to predict the future now. is this hard for u to understand, fortuneteller?

You're saying he was wrong because he didn't make a prediction?
exactly

for smoothie as a selfproclaimed fortuneteller that is noteworthy IMO

i doubt he can manage to spin himself out of this one lol

See above noob and fail more. LOL!!  ;D ;D ;D

lol youre a fail troll that when losing a troll battle you lower yourself to plain insulting

and you call yourself a pro troll. LOL smoothie = fail


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: smoothie on February 22, 2014, 01:08:45 AM
smoothie was wrong about predicting what happened last week so doubtful he'll has an ability to predit the future like he claims, infact since he was wrong he has more of a tendency to be wrong

lol what did I predict and please define a source within my posts last week where I was wrong in this so called "prediction"?

Thanks
thing is you didn't predict it which implicitly means you were wrong. this is noteworthy because you are pretending to predict the future now. is this hard for u to understand, fortuneteller?

You're saying he was wrong because he didn't make a prediction?
exactly

for smoothie as a selfproclaimed fortuneteller that is noteworthy IMO

i doubt he can manage to spin himself out of this one lol

See above noob and fail more. LOL!!  ;D ;D ;D

lol youre a fail troll that when losing a troll battle you lower yourself to plain insulting

and you call yourself a pro troll. LOL smoothie = fail

Now that I have proof of my prediction you now want to focus on something else?

Typical loser. Haha keep failing noob.  ;D ;D ;D



Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: smoothie on February 22, 2014, 01:09:30 AM
More fail of wuttwutt here:

Name:   WuttWutt
Posts:   28
Activity:   24
Position:   Newbie
Date Registered:   February 05, 2014, 09:28:45 PM
Last Active:   Today at 01:07:38 AM

Good job newbie user!


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: WuttWutt on February 22, 2014, 01:16:25 AM
smoothie was wrong about predicting what happened last week so doubtful he'll has an ability to predit the future like he claims, infact since he was wrong he has more of a tendency to be wrong

lol what did I predict and please define a source within my posts last week where I was wrong in this so called "prediction"?

Thanks
thing is you didn't predict it which implicitly means you were wrong. this is noteworthy because you are pretending to predict the future now. is this hard for u to understand, fortuneteller?

You're saying he was wrong because he didn't make a prediction?
exactly

for smoothie as a selfproclaimed fortuneteller that is noteworthy IMO

i doubt he can manage to spin himself out of this one lol

See above noob and fail more. LOL!!  ;D ;D ;D

lol youre a fail troll that when losing a troll battle you lower yourself to plain insulting

and you call yourself a pro troll. LOL smoothie = fail

Now that I have proof of my prediction you now want to focus on something else?

Typical loser. Haha keep failing noob.  ;D ;D ;D


actually its you thats avoiding lol fail


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: WuttWutt on February 22, 2014, 01:19:03 AM
lol you edit your posts midway a conversation #pathetic


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: smoothie on February 22, 2014, 01:20:51 AM
Accusations being made here and despite proof given by me, said noob troll (wuttwutt) still fails at making a valid point.

PURE ENTERTAINMENT. LOL!!!!  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: WuttWutt on February 22, 2014, 01:28:31 AM
Accusations being made here and despite proof given by me, said noob troll (wuttwutt) still fails at making a valid point.

PURE ENTERTAINMENT. LOL!!!!  ;D ;D ;D
lol


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: smoothie on February 22, 2014, 01:51:28 AM
Accusations being made here and despite proof given by me, said noob troll (wuttwutt) still fails at making a valid point.

PURE ENTERTAINMENT. LOL!!!!  ;D ;D ;D
lol

ROFL!  ::)


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: smoothie on February 22, 2014, 02:19:13 AM
Smoothie,
I think capitulation is settling in and the rise will be much slower.

Do you want to do a 2 BTC bet on the ATH prediction?

I don't see how we'll hit a new ATH by July 2014, honestly. I think it'll be at least a year out.

We'd just need a mutually-agreed upon exchange or price indicator and an escrow.

I'd be tempted to take that bet.


I'll take this bet. Meaning 2 BTC goes to me if Bitstamp or BTC-e hit an ATH on their respective exchanges based on the past price history on those exchanges on or before July 31st, 2014. If the price on BTC-e goes higher than its ATH as recorded on the charts etc and same goes for Bitstamp, I win. Otherwise I lose and 2 BTC goes to you.

BTC-e ATH = $1095.20

BITSTAMP ATH = $1163.00



THIS IS A MANDATORY ESCROW BET. ESCROW WILL BE SALTYSPITOON.

I'll do this bet with one person only.

First one to accept the terms I've listed above will be the one I bet with.

@Wuttwutt, you can take this bet if you have a set. lol


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: shmadz on February 22, 2014, 04:33:48 AM
Next Capitulation to occur between now and Mid April 2014.

Soon there after price will rise steadily to reach new ATH's by mid June 2014.

After that is all "CHOOOOOOOOO CHOOOOOOO".



Capitulation is a tough word to define.

Does it mean that we will reach lower than 450? for a prolonged period? 350? 250?

I would like to think that this thing will slide for a while, but picking bottoms is a dirty business,

I set my bids weeks ago, and the ones that get hit, I sometimes take the proceeds and place some asks to hedge against another dip, but I currently have no asks below 800. I think the move, when it comes, will be swift and violent.

I'm just curious, how low do you think final capitulation could be?


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: Chaz on February 22, 2014, 04:48:58 AM
Not sure how many bad/good calls you make Smoothie, but I remember this one, here's a toot toot!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=169171


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: smoothie on February 22, 2014, 04:54:02 AM
Next Capitulation to occur between now and Mid April 2014.

Soon there after price will rise steadily to reach new ATH's by mid June 2014.

After that is all "CHOOOOOOOOO CHOOOOOOO".



Capitulation is a tough word to define.

Does it mean that we will reach lower than 450? for a prolonged period? 350? 250?

I would like to think that this thing will slide for a while, but picking bottoms is a dirty business,

I set my bids weeks ago, and the ones that get hit, I sometimes take the proceeds and place some asks to hedge against another dip, but I currently have no asks below 800. I think the move, when it comes, will be swift and violent.

I'm just curious, how low do you think final capitulation could be?

Low could be $375 to $425.


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: smoothie on February 22, 2014, 04:55:33 AM
Not sure how many bad/good calls you make Smoothie, but I remember this one, here's a toot toot!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=169171

Looks like another correct call.  ;D ;D ;D

I totally forgot about this one. Thanks for reminding me!


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: seleme on February 22, 2014, 05:02:37 AM
Smoothie had some good long term calls. Lucky bastard bought loads of LTC for cheap  >:( ;D


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: smoothie on February 22, 2014, 05:04:37 AM
Smoothie had some good long term calls. Lucky bastard bought loads of LTC for cheap  >:( ;D

You still got a chance to get both BTC and LTC on the cheap.

Window of opportunity is now until several weeks from now. If I had to guess.


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: Einewton on February 22, 2014, 05:13:19 AM
You still got a chance to get both BTC and LTC on the cheap.

Window of opportunity is now until several weeks from now. If I had to guess.

Based on your extreme high level assessment that looks to me as a glass ball, you must have a formula somewhere to base where you see the market headed...

So i've gone past all of your predictions and I think I know how your coming up with this.. Obviously cannot count the years of experience. (3 years of experience equates to 15 years on wall street)

Everyone, He's onto something here... I'm sure he is not going to give you details, just do your research, and do your due diligence.

Thanks for the heads up smoothie.


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: zhangweiwu on February 22, 2014, 05:35:22 AM
Sorry for this extremely noob question.... but I've always been a bit confused about this...

When someone mentions a "capitulation event" I know that it means in the finance world a selloff. however, in the bitcoin world, here on these forums, when people mention a "capitulation event" does that mean the bitcoin price rises exponentially because people are selling off their USD dollars, or do they actually mean that a "capitulation event" here means a big selloff of bitcoins resulting in the price dropping?

i love the way you put it. Many here seems to forget we buy bitcoin because we do not trust fiat, and there should be a day we surrender all fiat in fear. Nice way to use the word capitulation.


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: smoothie on February 22, 2014, 06:01:33 AM
Sorry for this extremely noob question.... but I've always been a bit confused about this...

When someone mentions a "capitulation event" I know that it means in the finance world a selloff. however, in the bitcoin world, here on these forums, when people mention a "capitulation event" does that mean the bitcoin price rises exponentially because people are selling off their USD dollars, or do they actually mean that a "capitulation event" here means a big selloff of bitcoins resulting in the price dropping?

i love the way you put it. Many here seems to forget we buy bitcoin because we do not trust fiat, and there should be a day we surrender all fiat in fear. Nice way to use the word capitulation.

Yes I buy BTC and LTC because I do not like keeping it in the bank, exchange, or in cash.

Not to say that cash is a bad thing to have. I just don't want all my net worth in paper assets.


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: igorr on February 22, 2014, 11:28:33 AM
Bitcoin go to 150-250 usd


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: Cassius on February 22, 2014, 11:49:10 AM
agreed, two months is too wide a range, we're in a major period of price discovery at the moment, and I expect we'll find capitulation within the next week. Two months is pretty much guaranteed.

Wouldn't surprise me if Goxxing continued for a while yet, overshadowing just about everything else. Until Karpeles completes his self-evisceration (at least to the satisfaction of the market, which then has some certainty) nothing's going to be clear.


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: EuroTrash on February 22, 2014, 02:18:01 PM
Not sure how many bad/good calls you make Smoothie, but I remember this one, here's a toot toot!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=169171

Er... I believe he also made a call for 300$/btc mid April last year. Or was it 500?
That one didn't go well. :(


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: threecats on February 22, 2014, 02:37:38 PM
Smoothie -

Care to make a prediction, will bitcoinbuilder participants get their coins out of Gox?  : -)


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: smoothie on February 22, 2014, 03:00:17 PM
Smoothie -

Care to make a prediction, will bitcoinbuilder participants get their coins out of Gox?  : -)

Best case scenario - GOX turns on withdrawals with limits of 1 BTC per day and 10 btc per month.


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: Tirapon on February 22, 2014, 03:01:55 PM
Smoothie had some good long term calls. Lucky bastard bought loads of LTC for cheap  >:( ;D

If you want cheap LTC, you can buy them for ~$13.75 at the moment. I'd be surprised to see them go for less than $10 (although I wouldn't rule it out completely). I don't wanna hear any complaints around here when we break the ~$50 ATH with people saying 'LTC is too expensive, its not fair!' - you've got plenty of time to stock up now.


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: threecats on February 22, 2014, 03:07:39 PM
Smoothie -

Care to make a prediction, will bitcoinbuilder participants get their coins out of Gox?  : -)

Best case scenario - GOX turns on withdrawals with limits of 1 BTC per day and 10 btc per month.

That's what worries me about  the BTC builder,if one does not have a personal Gox acct it might take forever to get coins out of the BTC builders Gox account because there will be so many in the same boat ...

Unless of course someone then sets up an arbitrage website to get coins out of BTC builder : -)


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: igorr on February 22, 2014, 04:51:15 PM
Drop coming !

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/8477/i75s.jpg (http://img856.imageshack.us/i/i75s.jpg/)View Screen Capture (http://img856.imageshack.us/i/i75s.jpg/)


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: dnaleor on February 22, 2014, 06:57:43 PM
Smoothie -

Care to make a prediction, will bitcoinbuilder participants get their coins out of Gox?  : -)

Best case scenario - GOX turns on withdrawals with limits of 1 BTC per day and 10 btc per month.

That's what worries me about  the BTC builder,if one does not have a personal Gox acct it might take forever to get coins out of the BTC builders Gox account because there will be so many in the same boat ...

Unless of course someone then sets up an arbitrage website to get coins out of BTC builder : -)

LOL


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: Einewton on February 22, 2014, 07:26:21 PM
Where can I see this graph? This is a pretty sweet graph..


I'm looking around but can't find it. Is this a thick client app or something?


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: igorr on February 22, 2014, 07:33:22 PM
Where can I see this graph? This is a pretty sweet graph..


I'm looking around but can't find it. Is this a thick client app or something?


https://www.tradingview.com


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: Raize on February 22, 2014, 07:42:06 PM
I'll take this bet. Meaning 2 BTC goes to me if Bitstamp or BTC-e hit an ATH on their respective exchanges based on the past price history on those exchanges on or before July 31st, 2014. If the price on BTC-e goes higher than its ATH as recorded on the charts etc and same goes for Bitstamp, I win. Otherwise I lose and 2 BTC goes to you.

BTC-e ATH = $1095.20

BITSTAMP ATH = $1163.00



THIS IS A MANDATORY ESCROW BET. ESCROW WILL BE SALTYSPITOON.

I'll do this bet with one person only.

First one to accept the terms I've listed above will be the one I bet with.

@Wuttwutt, you can take this bet if you have a set. lol

Okay, how long do we want to give wuttwutt to take it before we make it our own? I'll give him 24 hours or so.


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: smoothie on February 22, 2014, 08:01:19 PM
I'll take this bet. Meaning 2 BTC goes to me if Bitstamp or BTC-e hit an ATH on their respective exchanges based on the past price history on those exchanges on or before July 31st, 2014. If the price on BTC-e goes higher than its ATH as recorded on the charts etc and same goes for Bitstamp, I win. Otherwise I lose and 2 BTC goes to you.

BTC-e ATH = $1095.20

BITSTAMP ATH = $1163.00



THIS IS A MANDATORY ESCROW BET. ESCROW WILL BE SALTYSPITOON.

I'll do this bet with one person only.

First one to accept the terms I've listed above will be the one I bet with.

@Wuttwutt, you can take this bet if you have a set. lol

Okay, how long do we want to give wuttwutt to take it before we make it our own? I'll give him 24 hours or so.

Let's give him another 24 hours.

He has gone silent as expected. Usually appears to be the case when a newb gets called out with an escrowed bet. Let's see his response, if any.


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: smoothie on February 22, 2014, 10:31:32 PM
I'll take this bet. Meaning 2 BTC goes to me if Bitstamp or BTC-e hit an ATH on their respective exchanges based on the past price history on those exchanges on or before July 31st, 2014. If the price on BTC-e goes higher than its ATH as recorded on the charts etc and same goes for Bitstamp, I win. Otherwise I lose and 2 BTC goes to you.

BTC-e ATH = $1095.20

BITSTAMP ATH = $1163.00



THIS IS A MANDATORY ESCROW BET. ESCROW WILL BE SALTYSPITOON.

I'll do this bet with one person only.

First one to accept the terms I've listed above will be the one I bet with.

@Wuttwutt, you can take this bet if you have a set. lol

Okay, how long do we want to give wuttwutt to take it before we make it our own? I'll give him 24 hours or so.

Let's give him another 24 hours.

He has gone silent as expected. Usually appears to be the case when a newb gets called out with an escrowed bet. Let's see his response, if any.

To be more thorough and fair I PMed Wuttwutt yesterday about the bet.

So far, no reply.  :D


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: keithers on February 22, 2014, 10:42:26 PM
agreed, two months is too wide a range, we're in a major period of price discovery at the moment, and I expect we'll find capitulation within the next week. Two months is pretty much guaranteed.

feb 29th it will be 5 figures

It already is 5 figures if you count the cents behind the decimal point :)


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: Skinnkavaj on February 22, 2014, 11:39:42 PM
Smoothie you are really good at this I must say. Instantly when we had this huge crash on btc I remembered your 650 USD post.


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: UnDerDoG81 on February 23, 2014, 02:00:23 AM
Amen! I missed the 540 on stamp and I would love to get cheap coins :)

What is your prediction? Will we go under 500? And why should we go up again then?

What is your prediction about the actual situation? Should I buy @600 to make quick cash? Or too dangerous?


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: smoothie on February 23, 2014, 02:10:54 AM
Amen! I missed the 540 on stamp and I would love to get cheap coins :)

What is your prediction? Will we go under 500? And why should we go up again then?

What is your prediction about the actual situation? Should I buy @600 to make quick cash? Or too dangerous?

I'm not here to give financial advice.

But I would be stocking up at these levels and waiting also for the price to back to the $400 to $500 (hopefully).

Won't matter if getting coins at $500 or $600 if price gets to $5000 at year end.

But then again invest at your own risk.


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: Cassius on February 23, 2014, 10:30:22 AM
Any thoughts on the recent rise back above $600? I'd have written it off if it weren't for the apparent optimism on Gox ($300+).


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: bitrider on February 23, 2014, 12:00:35 PM
However my daughter expects pretty much the same scenario as smoothie - with some adjustments.

My 7 yo daughter predicts:

Grinding capitulation back to the 200 ema with 1 or 2 flash crashes below (to 400-500) - all before end of April, or sooner. She then expects we will ride the 200EMA until the first explosive jump to ATH in mid to late June/July. Then a strong pullback to 1200 before the next explosive rise to 5k-7k levels in Sept/October (might even hit 10k) before correcting to 4k-5k levels by the end of the year. This is what will happen. She is not guessing. She knows know for sure. She said it is true so you should place your bets accordingly.


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: Raize on February 23, 2014, 06:10:41 PM
This is what will happen. She is not guessing. She knows know for sure. She said it is true so you should place your bets accordingly.

If this is true, I'll just capitulate to Smoothie right now. I'm too afraid to take a bet of this nature if your daughter is certain, too. :P


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: smoothie on February 23, 2014, 06:54:34 PM
However my daughter expects pretty much the same scenario as smoothie - with some adjustments.

My 7 yo daughter predicts:

Grinding capitulation back to the 200 ema with 1 or 2 flash crashes below (to 400-500) - all before end of April, or sooner. She then expects we will ride the 200EMA until the first explosive jump to ATH in mid to late June/July. Then a strong pullback to 1200 before the next explosive rise to 5k-7k levels in Sept/October (might even hit 10k) before correcting to 4k-5k levels by the end of the year. This is what will happen. She is not guessing. She knows know for sure. She said it is true so you should place your bets accordingly.

Wow I must say if my daughter were doing the same thing I would be telling her she needs to worry about "kid" things and not adult things.

Great parenting skills from bitrider.  ;D


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: kireinaha on February 25, 2014, 02:40:02 AM
agreed, two months is too wide a range, we're in a major period of price discovery at the moment, and I expect we'll find capitulation within the next week. Two months is pretty much guaranteed.

Totally called it.


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: Elwar on February 25, 2014, 09:35:11 AM
Next Capitulation to occur between now and Mid April 2014.

Soon there after price will rise steadily to reach new ATH's by mid June 2014.

After that is all "CHOOOOOOOOO CHOOOOOOO".

Let the record show that the first half of Smoothie's prediction was right.

MtGox closing caused the price to drop to $400/BTC.

Good call Smoothie.


Title: Re: Smoothie's Prediction of timing of next capitulation event etc
Post by: Cassius on February 25, 2014, 03:06:51 PM
Next Capitulation to occur between now and Mid April 2014.

Soon there after price will rise steadily to reach new ATH's by mid June 2014.

After that is all "CHOOOOOOOOO CHOOOOOOO".

Let the record show that the first half of Smoothie's prediction was right.

MtGox closing caused the price to drop to $400/BTC.

Good call Smoothie.

Assuming that was capitulation (seems like it probably was, but we're not going to know for sure just yet): good call indeed.

agreed, two months is too wide a range, we're in a major period of price discovery at the moment, and I expect we'll find capitulation within the next week. Two months is pretty much guaranteed.

Totally called it.

And you sir.

Real question now is how fast it will recover. Gox I think was largely priced in over the last few weeks. China pulling out made virtually no long-term dent in prices.

Anyone care to put a date on the next ATH?